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Official Discussion Thread: Chuck Vs. The A-Team

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    skhplbliss

    [1]Mar 14, 2011
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    Let's hear them thoughts!

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    fladimir7

    [2]Mar 14, 2011
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    I don't know if it's just me but ellie looked thinner and entirely radiant in that episode, the best she ever look so far. She even looked better than Sarah.

    Anyway, it was an ok episode i guess. I didn't know the old spice guy was considered as one of the Gretas, and i don't think they should call him that because after all it's a woman's name, regardless if it's just a alias or not. Then again, since they were calling almost everyone greata in the first place i guess they don't care if it makes sense or not. Overall, nonetheless, It was fun seeing that guy in there, and i would've preferred that he was partnered with summer Glau instead but I still like the new team and i believe Their departure was way too fast. If it was my choice i would've let them to compete with chuck for a little longer. And I agree with Casey's reasons for trying to leave the team because he's in fact taking the backseat in every mission they go to. They took a pause from any wedding talks this time so i thank them for that.
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    GG4701

    [3]Mar 14, 2011
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    Ok I have been going back and forth between reviews of this episode and Facebook comments and it seems to have about a 60-40 like/dislike by the fans. I personally liked the episode for its subtle hints at what it was structuring for different story lines that the series has been working with since Season 2 and 3. One of these, which was blatantly obvious by the ending of the episode, is that the creators of the show (Josh Schwartz and Chris Fedak) have wanted to keep the whole "Chuck struggling with balancing his real life and spy life" in the story even now that everyone really close to him knows that he's a spy. The other though, is a little more subtler in the development of Chuck and Sarah's path to marriage, is that this episode actually had to deal with financial security for both Chuck and Sarah, with Chuck moreprominent. Now many of you will try to debunk this by saying that the promo for the next episode involves an INCREASE in the amount of intersect analysts in the government, but you have got to remember what General Beckman said towards the end of the episode about how the new intersect team should have first consulted Chuck, the current intersect, before continuing on their operation. Also the little quip from one "Captain Rick Noble" (played by the very excellent Old Spice Man, Isaiah Mustafa) about how he doesn't know how Chuck deals with the all the information the intersect has to offer in his head on a daily basis. Now one thing I didn't like is how they didn't quite address the whole "Governor" thing. From what I remember Chuck's mind is one in a million in how it can retain and control all the information Intersect Alpha, and Intersect 2.0 ( and possibly Intersect Fulcrum if it was not removed by Stephen Bartowski or maybe was in the Intersect 2.0), and even with his one in a million mind he started melting down after what, 3 years? So do these new agents get a Governor, or does the new computer they got the Intersect from take care this problem? I would like these questions answered so I can fully review the information I took in from this episode for the canon, but otherwise a fairly good episode if they get the right arc going. I give it a B.

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    skhplbliss

    [4]Mar 14, 2011
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    I liked this episode a lot because it had some of the old Chuck humor, going way back to the first episode, where Chuck disarmed a huge bomb, I think that one may have been made out of C4, with porn. The juice-box-defusal really made me laugh.
    I loved Isaiah Mustafa and I was so excited to see him return. Stacy Kiebler is gorgeous, but Chuck already has enough eye candy and the position would have been better served with another character we all know who would have more of a draw to non-Chuck fans, but I won't complain about that all too much. I do agree that they got rid of the Gretas way too quickly and could have definitely kept them around for longer as a new stressor to the show.
    I also liked the way that they were able to incorporate the side characters naturally into the show without forcing them in unrelated side-plots.
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    BradleyGoldma

    [5]Mar 14, 2011
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    Hmm....TWO key villains for season 4.5/5?!? I'm liking this!!

    Of course, There can't be two main villains. So, the question is: Who is the primary and seconday villain? Is it Vivian Volkoff, Or is it General whose-her-face?

    There is one thing that is puzzling me:

    If Chuck was made overseer of all aspects of the intersect project, Why then, Did he not simply TAKE back his dad's laptop?
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    skhplbliss

    [6]Mar 15, 2011
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    Maybe he just forgot about it after whole nuclear-bomb-defusing incident?
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    Ambaryerno

    [7]Mar 15, 2011
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    GG4701,


    I think the need for the Governor MAY have been rectified by Ellie. Remember that when she was working on Stephen's laptop she said that her father was trying to store information in the brain like he would on a computer, but that the brain doesn't work that way. She made SOME sort of change to how the Intersect works, we just don't know what it is.

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    kanniballl

    [8]Mar 15, 2011
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    BradleyGoldma wrote:
    If Chuck was made overseer of all aspects of the intersect project, Why then, Did he not simply TAKE back his dad's laptop?


    Well, maybe he's in charge of it but that doesn't mean the laptop is his property (in the government's eyes).


    For example: if Orion had made a mini-nuke (or some other destructive device) they'd still takepossessionof it and wouldn't let an agent keep it in their bedroom.



    But the NSA is definitely overstepping some lines. In some ways I can't blame her, the Intersect is an incredibly useful asset and until now the government has been sitting on their hands.

    Edited on 03/15/2011 7:00am
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    kanniballl

    [9]Mar 15, 2011
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    Another thing I liked, both the agents started acting much friendlier without the Intersect. Though only male-Gretta had any lines about it, I'm pretty sure the girl started smiling as well.

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    IndianaMom

    [10]Mar 15, 2011
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    Really good episode. I can see how Casey would be honored to be asked to head his own team. He really has been just backup for Chuck and Sarah for a while. The end showed us why Chuck is special just because he's Chuck. Also, the Ellie & Awesome storyline turned dark at the end. Will Sarah joining the family spy business?
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    kanniballl

    [11]Mar 15, 2011
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    As for the governor...


    It's implied at the beginning of this season that "someone" has learned how to make them. Chuck apparently has at least 3 of them in his apartment. We see him grab a watch from a mechanical-winder in his apartment and the one he grabbed wasn't Stephen's old watch.


    So it's possible that at the end of last season Chuck gave the governor designs to the CIA so they could make him a fully functional one as well as some spares.



    On the other hand, it's possible that Ellie did fix the issue by looking at the "unknown" brain problem as a doctor instead of an engineer. It was vague what the whole point of that "fix" was other than the fact that it also restored Chuck's deleted Intersect.

    Edited on 03/15/2011 7:06am
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    jimod2001

    [12]Mar 15, 2011
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    I don't like where this is going. I would love Ellie to work on the intersect and make Chuck better, but if she gets one put in. I don't want her to go on missions.

    I don't like the new lady she makes me uneasy. Good episode but no Ellie intersect.
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    skhplbliss

    [13]Mar 15, 2011
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    jimod2001 wrote:
    I don't like the new lady she makes me uneasy. Good episode but no Ellie intersect.


    I totally agree. I'm sensing some dark things down the road for Casey and the new general, or whatever her title is. His loyalty may be tested.
    I also really don't want Ellie to wind up getting an insect. That would totally bum me out.

    I also loved how for about 2 seconds I thought Jeffster were going to figure out Chuck was CIA. "Cia? What kind of a name is Cia?" Lol.
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    DanSandwichBoy

    [15]Mar 15, 2011
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    So Jeff really does have ESP. Freaky... I really like how this episode showed Chuck's value over the Gretas due to his ability to "improvise" on top of his flashes, and Beckman saw that clear as day. Poor Morgan, though... And what is that mysterious director planning on doing by handing the Orion computer back to Ellie I wonder...?
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    vstherevolution

    [16]Mar 16, 2011
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    jimod2001 wrote:
    I don't like where this is going. I would love Ellie to work on the intersect and make Chuck better, but if she gets one put in. I don't want her to go on missions.

    I don't like the new lady she makes me uneasy. Good episode but no Ellie intersect.


    If it comes to Ellie doing kung fu and going on missions... I don't know, I don't even want to imagine it. I remember reading an interview with either Fedak or Schwartz where they said if Ellie gets involved in the spy world that's when they know they've jumped the shark. If they're gearing up to do that it must mean they've run out of new ideas.
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    Chuckster18

    [17]Mar 16, 2011
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    Good episode, but Chuck would be completely ruined if Ellie would get intersect.. Also I don't think that Ellie would even want to be in the spy world with the baby and all. What do you think ?
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    skhplbliss

    [18]Mar 16, 2011
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    I can't imagine Ellie ever doing that. Would be kinda funny and awesome to see Sarah Lancaster getting some action scenes in though.
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    Farmerluk2

    [19]Mar 16, 2011
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    I actually would like to see her accidentally upload the intersect (next season) by accident, and the rest of the episode you could see the effects (mostly comical) before Chuck realises and removes it.



    BUT that is the only scenario I would see her with an intersect.


    I would also like to see Chuck and Elle working together on their dad's research.

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    chikanoman

    [20]Mar 19, 2011
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    CIA, CIA? What kind of a name is CIA? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Best quote in history.
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