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OK you readers from the US, I have been informed that you will only be able to see this episode on Friday, so you need to look out if you don't want any spoilers!

Still, you are very welcome to come back and read / discuss after the show has aired wherever you live.



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Damn that was quick, and in more than one way.

First this episode was quick in weirding me out with that fake commercial for Halo. Following that the episode almost gave me whiplash because of the speed the story development seems to have taken on. I’m not complaining here, I’m just saying, this is fast for Continuum. It stays quick when Liber8 seems to fall apart at the seams because of some talk and the whole chess board is basically rearranged.

But I’m skipping ahead so let me start from the top with the Halo commercial:

It is actually not bad as far as a commercial goes. It’s just that the product itself is very much the content of (my) nightmares.



Next up we are with Brad in Kiera’s apartment and he is still suffering from the effects of Flash and trying to sort out his memories. Kiera doesn’t notice and pops out to get some eggs for breakfast. Important to note from his memory-flashes is that he remembers he is the one who killed Kiera and that he worked with Curtis. While Kiera is out getting eggs, Brad walks out on her.

This issue of ‘who killed Kiera’ has been discussed in length in the comments and until this episode we could not be sure but now that Brad remembers events this way and later even says that he killed Kiera, so I think we can consider this question settled.

The next thing that happens is that Jason, with Halo on his arm, shows up at the park and digs up the time travel device from future-Alec who buried it back in the season premiere and put the GPS coordinates in his phone. While watching this it raised the question for me of how did he know where it is? That aside, Jason seems somewhat insane while digging and then, consequently attacks a jogger whom he mistakes for one of the Freelancer dudes. He takes his shovel and starts bashing the guy’s head in. He doesn’t kill him, but while he beats the guy, he yells something about ‘not going back in the box again’. This, I think, settles another question that the community has been discussing, and that is that Jason is the way he is because he has been captured by the Freelancers and put in one of those glass boxes future-Alec is in right now. I wonder how he got out of there…



When Kiera returns home, instead of Brad she finds some broken glass. Kiera immediately suspects the Freelancers are involved and heads over to confront them. But they of course don’t have him either. Kiera once again tries to assert her independence from the Freelancer and they once again try to convince her to remain one of them.



While there, Kiera looks in on future-Alec, who looks not too healthy, just like a guy kept in a glass box prison is bound to look. I don’t think the Freelancer guys and Kiera are going to become best buddies. They don’t know where or when Brad came from, but they consider him a dangerous anomally, especially since he beat Curtis in hand-to-hand combat.



Brad himself is still remembering things, and one of the more important things he remembers is that he used to work with Curtis. We still don’t know if Brad is a Freelancer himself or why exactly he is working with Curtis, but they were a team. That also makes Curtis sort of a traitor to the Freelancer cause. It might have been that Curtis was undercover with the Freelancers or simply that he used them, sort of like Kiera did. But the two of them certainly killed Kiera while working together.

What Curtis and Brad did not know is that there were two Alecs, but they were apparently tracking some sort of “contamination” presumably of the timeline. It seems that alive-Kiera messed up whatever plan they had by becoming a Freelancer. The relationship between Curtis and Brad seemed not equal to me. It sounded like Brad was ‘in command’ or at least deciding the overall course and action. We also get to see the vehicle that hit Brad, and let me say, that did not look planned - it looked like a perfectly random car accident.



It seems Jason was picked up by the police after assaulting that jogger, and Carlos and Kiera are interviewing him. He seems totally out of it and is mumbling some very strange stuff. It turns out that in the end he was just playing for time, waiting for his corporate big shot lawyers to come and get him out. Jason still had the time-travel orb in his possession when he was arrested, so now it is in the police evidence lockup. But during the interview, Kiera has a ‘slip of tongue’ and reveals that she considers future-Alec the one in the Freelancer prison, ‘her’ Alec. That, to me, implies that she changed her mind about which Alec to choose but for now, she is not acting on that. Or maybe I’m just reading things wrong.

Of course Piron comes through for him and gets the charges against Jason dropped. Jason gets all his stuff back (except for the time-travel orb) slips his Halo bracelet on and is immediately lucid. After that, Kiera is off to confront Alec while Carlos is looking into how the charges got dropped. After questioning one of the duty sergeants, Carlos learns that Dillon has gotten a lot of charges dropped in the last few days, all linked to the Halo bracelet.




Alec basically lies to Kiera and in blocking her CMR, tries to throw her of the scent. But even without (or especially without) a CMR it is very clear that Alec is not being entirely truthful. Also note that two of the five open documents are about ‘Weapons technology’ and three are about ‘Financial position’. Jason joins them and insists that Halo actually helps him stay lucid and normal.

Carlos is still out tracking the former Halo beta testers and finds out that Dillon and Piron have been paying off former beta testers who have experienced anti-social behavior and consequently got into trouble with the police. Piron with the help of the VPD are sweeping everything under the rug. It seems like the whole police-corporation cooperation is not yet as finely tuned as in 2077 because Carlos figures it all out very quickly and even the concerned beta testers complain about a lack of competence in the police cover-up.
With all this info, Kiera does not really believe her earlier scan results of Alec, or at least she considers the possibility that Alec might not know about any issues with Halo and is being kept in the dark.



Brad somehow tracks down Kellog and enlists his help in trying to find the Freelancers for whatever reason. In this conversation Brad mentions that he and Kellog will get to know eachother in the future, what in hindsight, refers to the far future and not a couple of months down the road.

Meanwhile over at Piron, there is sort of an emergency meeting underway. It seems Halo causes psychotic behavior in about 6% of people wearing it. Oops. Not really a product you would want to bring to market. I don’t know what the product liability laws are like in Canada, but if they are anything like those in the US, that sort of ‘glitch’ could bankrupt you. But more importantly, in this conversation Jason explains the scientific stuff like he would for a layman and Alec asks: “Are you dumbing this down for me or her” (the lawyer) and Jason sort of evades the issue. It seems that maybe that lawyer lady and Jason are not being truthful with Alec after all. The lawyer definitely seems like a person who knows more about all this, time travel and Escher than she is openly admitting.




Carlos is not amused by what he learns from Kiera about Alec. Well, isn’t it nice to see the team back together, trusting each other and telling their secrets to each other? Finally! Carlos calls in his favor with Julian and gets him to look into what is going on with Halo but not before mentioning that he knows about the deal between Alec, Piron and Julian.

At the same time, in a seemingly random garage Brad is breaking into, he seems to have a weapons cache. It seems he knows the place well. While getting his stuff, a young boy interrupts him. It turns out the boy is Bradley Tonkin (or whatever his last name is) in his pre-teens. Bradley, meet Bradley :D



Almost immediately Kiera shows up, having tracked down the boy with the help of the police. While leaving, Brad and Kiera get captured by Liber8. Wow. That was a quick succession of events…





After some preliminary exchanges of pleasantries, Travis gets down to business and proceeds to beat some information out of Brad. Kiera is taking that very hard but is still interested in what Brad had to say. It seems he has been sent back to clean up Liber8’s mess.



Julian meanwhile follows up on Carlos’ tip about the Halo issues. He does not have access to the relevant information about Halo concerning the beta-testers that exhibited problematic symptoms. As Julian is digging, Jason is lurking in the background. He finally confronts Julian and in turn gets prodded for info. Jason is acting very paranoid and strange again and when he thinks Julian will betray Alec, he locks the room and starts to choke Julian. Alec and the security guy can get to him just in time and save Julian by putting Halo back on Jason’s wrist.



When Garza participates in the information extraction process, she uses a nailgun to put a nail through Kiera’s foot. That finally makes Brad talk:

It seems Brad left his time in the year 2039 because “right here right now is when the timeline became disrupted”. He and his buddies stumbled upon that info when they captured a Freelancer facility. It seems they were convinced that this time was ‘ground zero’ for a cataclysmic time anomaly.



Of course the guys from Liber8 don’t believe him. When the Global Corporate Congress gets mentioned, Brad tells them that it doesn’t exist in his time. It seems that corporations and the government declared war on each other and that in turn lead to all kinds of chaos. Liber8 takes that bit of info as proof that they succeeded and changed history just like Kagame dreamed they would.

Somewhere else in the city Jason and Alec have a heart to heart on which implications I’m not too clear about. Yes, Alec basically admits that he is an insecure boy trying to win his (dead) dad’s approval but what all that means for the relationship between Alec and Jason is not really clear at this point.

Brad also tells Kiera that he bolted because he did not like what he remembered and he tells her that he is the one who killed the other Kiera. So, that’s settled. Kiera manages to get out of her cuffs while Liber8 still tries to figure out if Brad is telling the truth or not.





Kiera makes a move and ends up with a gun to Sonja’s head. Sonja is ready to die because she believes she has changed the future and she is good with that, even if the change seems to be for the worst. Kiera tells Liber8 about killing Travis in her old timeline, about the other dead Kiera and about the two Alecs.

When Carlos confronts Dillon about all those dropped charges, Dillon explains his motivation: He wants Halo because with the data it would send to Piron he would essentially get his own crime-prediction-database and therefore could better protect the innocents. Well, no thank you, Piron. Carlos agrees with me but doesn’t have any proof to bring Dillon down.



Brad tries to make a run for it but Travis and Garza recapture him, Kiera tells Liber8 that Alec jumped back in time and with that created a new timeline. She also tells the story about her escape attempt with Garza from the season premiere. Kiera then proposes that future-Alec’s time jump created the future that Brad comes from. Kiera also reveals that Garza has a separate deal with old Alec Sadler from 2077.

Lucas goes crazy because now everyone is just a pawn in someone else’s game and everything seems useless to him. Brad explains to him and Liber8 that basically everything went to shit because of Liber8 and their ‘rhetoric’. That is when Kellog and Curtis show up to the party. Except for Sonja all Liber8 members are already doubting themselves and their mission but when Brad shows them a holograph recording of an “old” Kellog giving a speech about war, the group begins to crumble. Brad also tells them that Kellog as part of a group of clan-leaders sent him back to change things.

As Kiera puts it: “Kellog is working for himself, Curtis is working for the Freelancers and Garza is working for Alec Sadler. Your plans were compromised from the beginning. No one controls the future. It is an ever-evolving organism, free to change as it sees fit.” It seems in this battle there are no winners and no perfect system.



I think we are about to discover a new and totally different level of stuff going on in Continuum.

When Curtis asks if Brad is still with him, he declines. It seems Travis, Garza and Lucas each went their own way, Sonja is still clinging to her Liber8 way, and Curtis and Kellog are going to continue working together. I bet Kellog likes the thought of himself as a clan leader, the pretentious self-righteous egocentric prick :D



Well, that was an eventful hour of Continuum. I was surprised that a round of talking disbanded Liber8 but it was well written and acted. It seems like the finale will be about Piron, Halo and the police. I don’t know where future-Alec will fit into that, but I am definitely looking forward to the last two episodes.

Thank you for joining me again this week. First, let's vote on the quality of the episode and then feel free to discuss it at length in the comments.



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And finally let me say THANK YOU to @bubujin_2 for spellchecking this recap. So if you notice that the rate of grammar and spelling mistakes in my text has decreased, it is his achievement. Any mistakes that might still remain, are mine :D



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I think this is going to be the last season. Boring season, confusing, disjointed story, bad narrative and editing. Overall, AWFUL!
I am ashamed for you guys for producing this terrible season.
This season is so bad that it's not even work illegally downloading!
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I have to say, I really haven't been impressed with much of what's gone on this season. The time jumping Alec creating two of he and two Kieras was great, but it seemed like episode 3/4 through 8/9 just sort dropped the ball a little and wandered around aimlessly.

I get the "slow" reveal of Brad, but after the previous episodes, I really wasn't in the mood. The payoff however was great. But this...now we're cookin' with gas!

These past couple of episodes felt more little more like season 1, at least where the pacing was concerned. Stuff was happening, meaningful stuff, even if it didn't entirely make sense at the time. Everything came together nicely in a theoretical time travel Mexican stand off...fantastic! I still think there were many episodes wasted or otherwise completely unnecessary to reach this point, but whatever, they're done.

Now, Liber8 has all but conceded defeat and Kiera's accepting that her future life is over...the entire original premise of the show is over. That's bold...and I dig it. And since Kiera knows she's not going home...time to get her some Brad lovin'. She's gotta be awfully backed up ;)

I'm not entirely sure where they're going to go from here, but I'm FAR more interested in the developments from this episode alone than I am most anything that's happened up until now.

Welcome back, Contiuum.
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* This was a very bold episode, but I'm not sure what it means for the future of this series. Lucas and most of Liberate are correct in a way. If people can go back in time and change history is things get too 'off track' or whatever, then there's not much point for Liber8 to put so much time and effort trying to change history for 'the better' (as they see it).

- But the logic collapses a bit since Liber8 would know that Kiera was sent back in time to change the future to what the Freelancers want. They could simply kill Kiera, kill Brad, maybe kill Garza, and kill Alec Sadler and they would get the future they want.
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Well, and they would have to disable all timetravel devices to prevent another round of changes.
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A couple things I am confused about first (mind you I loved this episode, I like where it appears Continuum is heading and I hope Brad can stick around since Kiera has to realize her future is technically gone now and she has nothing to go back to)...how did Kiera know about Garza's deal? Did Catherine tell her? I honestly forgot about it and have no idea how she would know...

Did it seem like killing Kiera was more a matter of wrong place, wrong time? I mean, I know if Kellogg knew that the anamoly took place now and that he knows about the future Alec and Kiera thing, it would seem reasonable he might theorize that getting rid of Kiera before she could get involved with the Freelancers or chose the wrong Alec (which yes, Kiera seems aware that she did, and based on the tv description, she and Brad will be remedying that next week - anyone else thing Travis will join up with them, he always seemed to basically respect Kiera and he seemed to like Brad) would solve some of the issues (of course, this leads to the paradox issue...but no matter who Kellogg becomes, I doubt he thinks about that).

Anyone else think that future Alec and this particular version of Julian would actually get along brilliantly? And when Jason was going on about who everyone was to Julian, was that the first time this Julian (or any Julian at all) actually heard someone come right out and say it? I mean, Sonya et al sort of seem to talk about it philosophically and my impression has always been that Julian has thought it was just crazy talk.

And, wait, when was this Jason in a Freelancer box? Before future Alec and Kiera got there? I mean Alec ran into him on the street. I just sort of started wondering if somehow this is the same Jason we have always known.

I think I had a couple other things, but they aren't coming to me right now.
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We have never SEEN Julian in a Freelancer-box, but he clearly implied he has been in one. There was always just speculation in the comments.
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I thought Kiera saw Jason in the box when she was initially imprisoned in the Freelancer jail in her original timeline. And like that was the message to us that this is bigger than just collecting Liber8 members or those involved in that traveling.
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Well, in her original timeline, she first went to the Flreelancer's lair after Emily was killed if I remember correctly. Speaking purely from memory, everyone from Liber8 was in the cells as well as Kiera - but even if Jason was in there in the original timeline, due to Alec's timejump, Jason in this timeline was not in there. I think.
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A review on another website (io9) suggested that Kiera's whole lecture about being pawns was probably her way of messing with Liber8, considering how she threw in things like Garza's deal with Old Alec. Something to think about.
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The end of this episode was really strange. Yes everyone was sent back by someone else with different plans, but that doesn't mean you have to follow them. Also, what did they expect? When you change the past, you have no idea what is going to be different in the future. If something goes wrong, you have to go back and try to fix it again. The only thing in the last sequence that made sense to me was that some of them were really tired of trying to change to future. So it just seems strange to me that they all just gave up.

And now what happens? If they don't do anything else the future will change to something different entirely. And does Kiera think that swapping Alecs is going to fix the problem? What exactly is the single cause of Brad's future? There probably isn't just one.
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Started typing this really drawn-out rant essay, about the ending and everything else, while putting the episode on pause in-between (it's a full page in Notepad, on 1920 x 1080, lol, blah).

Guess I will (instead of ranting :)) have to resign to TV.com/ articles and/or user comments instead, as - just - too many things pissed me off; doubt that it's an interesting read, meh.

P.S. Just won thing:

Reading the article, "Nail guns - always a useful tool: loved'em in Orphan Black, love em here." - besides of missing a second apostrophe, it's funny how the author is also thinking of Orphan Black.

.. For an obvious reason, here, but maybe there's more (of a comparison?) like how OB also seems to had switched gears - from season one - as this show, summed up in the observation:

"Following that the episode almost gave me whiplash because of the speed the story development seems to have taken on. I’m not complaining here, I’m just saying, this is fast for Continuum."
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In a way you are right - there are more parrallels between OB and Continuum. Both have expanded their respective universes this season.

These sort of changes are not always welcome by viewers, so they are always a risk. Take a look at what POI did with the end of HR and where they went after that. POI and OB, in my opinion, did their change / expansion very subtly as not to confuse the viewers, and they were very successful with it.
Continuum seems to have opted for a quicker pace and I am not so sure about that, we will have to see how the finale plays out - if the split of Liber8 is somewhat permanent etc. I just feel like "a talk" is not the right and enough of a reason to split up a underground freedom fighter / terrorist group. But that is all about how we got here. Now it is about what they do with it, and to judge the show on that, we shall wait till the end of the season, I think.
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Wow, you should post that in a community article. They have them for other shows all the time about specific episode events or "which character should die," ect.

But yeah, everything seemed to go along until this and I was just like "what is this?" It was like saying that the show is pointless because the basic premise of the show is changing the future the way you want it.
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*gawd, grammar really went down the toilet
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True. Just giving up is usually not the thing that happens with parties in an ideological conflict, and that is what I would call the conflict of Liber8 vs. GCC. They tend to, at least in our history, stick to their beliefs no matter what.

I have no idea what happens now :)

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When I saw the Halo commercial, I immediately thought, "Hmmm... Now I want one." Yes, commercials have that effect on me.

When Lucas had his fit and started mumbling about being someone's pawn, about Willy E. Coyote never catching the roadrunner, I thought he was going to say, "I can't understand the plot of this show anymore! Nothing makes sense! The writers are messing with my head! I'm so confused!" Because, honestly...

A nail right through a bony structure like the foot must hurt like hell, especially the way it came out.

Interesting idea, that the dreadful future we had known to exist could be replaced... with an even more dreadful future. Actually, it's the second more dreadful future, because the timeline the surviving Kiera came from simply collapsed, right? In Brad's timeline at least the dogs digging out corpses are still happy apparently.

One more thing I didn't understand: how Adult Brad hid things in Young Brad's house. The other way around would make sense, though.

Kiera is now realizing she caged the wrong Alec. Meanwhile, Future Alec is still lying down in his glass suite, just chilling. He seems more relaxed than he's been in weeks. But what is she gonna tell him when she releases him? "Oopsy-daisy! My bad! You two look so much alike, you know. It's easy to make a mistake." How does she expect Future Alec to react?

And speaking of which, will he ever find his girlfriend again? Gosh, I forgot her name already!

Kiera meeting again any version of her family, that ship, at this point, has long sailed, right?

So, according to my counting, just two more episodes this season, right? That's what I understood from the Continuum Facebook page.
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That commercial was creepy as hell and I wouldn’t want one. The women in it didn’t even want to be there, look at her expression when her 2 other selves showed up, such contempt on her face until she remembered to smile for the camera (or she wouldn’t get paid) and even that was to forced. Would have been a good commercial if we were in Kiera’s original time, where they would have the pretence of free will but will be forced to have one of those Halo bracelets.
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Right, two more to go.

I don't think Kiera will get back to her family. That's probably also why we haven't seen them in the flash forwards for a long time.

That is the question, isn't it. How future-Alec reacts when he gets out. I don't think either Alec will be friends with Kiera for a while.
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You didn't mention it (some of the other recappers sometimes do, I'm looking at you @edshrinker), but why do the producers put so much sensuality in Jacqueline, the lawyer. The series is pretty sexless.


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To be honest, I didn' mention it becaus I didn't really notice it untill you posted this picture ;)

Also I feel like there is no real chemistry between those two. I'm still looking at the lawyer as a 3rd-tier-character: no (known) story, no depth --& not terribly interesting.
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So far she's there to drive certain plot forward and give main characters some openings, then steps away and let them do their thing.

But shocker: she is actually Freelancer planted in Piron to keep eye on Escher, who was reluctant member at best. Well, one way to develop her further. ;)
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If there is interest in her character (which thanks to @Rolamb giving us a nice cleavage shot) and there certainly is here - you are spot on that they could take that character to a whole new leverl. And isn't that the coolest when a show does that? Taking what preceded and turn something familiar into something else. That is why I adore serial storytelling.
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Nice. But wouldn't Alec have checked for the finger tat (dots) on just about everyone around?
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She could cover them, seeing Escher would be on lookout for them as well.

I don't know, when it comes to her I think she knows more than she lets on. As was pointed in recap, when Jason is freaking out she has that look when time travel is hinted at that she knows a lot about it but prefers to keep her cards clsoe to the chest (OK, boobs in this case =D). Maybe she learned couple of Escher's secrets and is now looking for ways to cash in on them but will wait to see how situation develops and where she can get most for them. Maybe she was Escher's close partner and figured out how he died and is now keeping an eye on Alec to see what happens next. Maybe Escher brought her back from the future with him. Or old Alec sent her.

Or maybe she's just some side character whose sole role is to deliver crucial line at crucial time so scene and plot develops further.
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But...

BOOBS!
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Didn't notice the boobage this episode but I had in earlier episodes. But it never really dawned on me as being particularly flagrant.

Any lack of chemistry between the Piron lawyer and Alec could be deliberate. After all, she was already with Escher and "inherited" Alec. She's would be very much in the know on a lot of what Piron's got their hands into while Alec is still playing catch up and is overly focused on Halo.
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She is indeed always dressed that way and talking that way. But this episode I noticed a bit more because she was so very much showing the cleavage to the camera. That's why I mentioned it.

I do agree that the chemistry is lacking, probably also because he is a teenager and she is a full blown and grown woman. Your comment did make me wonder if she will be of more importance in the future as we have seen her a lot for just a bystander.
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To be honest, every time she's on screen and saying something, I do not notice Alex that much :-)
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"Because boobs" is perfectly acceptable answer to any question. :)

But seriously, Kiera in a cat suit isn't putting sexiness on screen?
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You are right, but for some reason that faded a bit this season.

Kiera is very exy!


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Sexy as an Orion Slave Girl as well

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Although I admit green is my favourite colour, I like my girls better in other colours.
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I know she is in Alex Cross

But I still want the movie ad in back of her to say she is in Sex Boss
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Didn't know the movie title, but I came across it and found it to be very appropriate for all those male hormones in this discussion :-)
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The boobs are great - but honestly that accent drives me wild.
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Not to mention her throw down with Matthew in Season 1

I really cracked up when Travis put that sucker on and it fit him loosely.
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Considering it's tight on anybody who puts it on I guess suit just adapts to wearer's body.
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AFAIK it was tight across the chest on both dudes that wore but but (thankfully!) less so in the crotch area.
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i know. But my point was it fit loose on him, not tight. It was designed by a dude - only wears tight on hot women.

Not complaining. I didn't need to see Travis' junk.
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Why DO they? Why wouldn't they?

And Carlos just got played by hottie and there was some sexing going on.
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was that the same woman? Damn, my memory must be fading....
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No no different woman. Though they are similar in appearance. Carlos' hottie was more Victoria's Secret body.

I just meant there has been The Sex on occasion
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@Rolamb

The one scene recently with Carlos showed a lot of hot body and grinding. That was as hot as this show has ever gotten I think.
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Remember that one too...... But as far as I can remember, it is the only time the show gave us a some evidence of a night together. But, it was still indirect.
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oh, ok. Yes, there has.

I still remember Kiera and Kellog... disgusting ...
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I really liked that end scene with all the time travel parties involved. As far as time travel theories go, that meeting made sure nobody knows how the future will look like as they now know that actions will change it, not know what actions will lead to what future and the future they were heading to at that point is not what they wanted. We're back to point zero indeed. What does that mean for our 'heroin' Kiera? Will she need a new lover in 2014?

My disgust for Sonya grew another meter. She was happy with the horror world in 2039, as long as it was different from her world. What a stupid and dangerous person, I hope she will be pushing up daisies soon.
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What does that mean for our 'heroin' Kiera? Will she need a new lover in 2014?

I'm wondering if she has given up on going home now.
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That was exactly the same issue is was posing with my question. Is she willing to accept she will not be able to return to her husband and kid and only will be able to try to get a future as good as it can be?
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The thing with Kiera was that when she was going on and on about Liber8 were pawns and nothing they did mattered, I thought that she was just saying that to mess with them. I was all "if she really means that, then she shouldn't bother getting back to her old life, especially since that life basically came at the expense of others."


Of course, if she has yet to realize that, then she is a hypocrite.
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I never really understood what Liber8 were were expecting to happen if they managed to stop the corporate congress from happening. It was obvious that if they weren't there to pick things up, it would all go to shit. Well, surprise, surprise, that's what happened.

So, if that's what Sonja wanted/expected, then I can see why she was happy. It sounds like she has succeeded in gaining freedom. The only problem is, complete freedom from any sort of control isn't actually that great,
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I think they just wanted corporations to be helpful to people, not rulers of the world. Also no big brother stuff. If they couldn't do that then there should be no corporations and people can live in communes. I was kind of surprised that Sonya was ok with a war torn future.
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Complete freedom either equals chaos or being alone.
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Yeah, I think the next season will be about "What sort of future do we want to create for ourselves?"

The first two seasons were about Kiera wanting everything to stay the same so she could go home to "her" 2077.
This season was about making sure this timeline stays consistent with the other "original" timeline.
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As good as it was, I wondered why they spent so few time on some details. When your hands are tied with a tire-wrap and you free yourself, there are two options: you either cut the tire-wrap or you lose your hand (see The Blacklist). I do not find it believable she could free her hand from a tire wrap, it meant someone just did not wrap it.
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I also wondered what happened to Kiera's suit. They will have taken it off, but why did they dress her in such a nice and even sexy outfit afterwards? She had a turtle-neck when she was captured.
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Thats probably what she wears under the suit. I don't imagine it is comfortable enough to wear by itself. Losing the suit is the first thing I thought when she was captured. I wonder how she would act if she didn't have it.
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The question is also: did she recover it after what happened at the end of the episode?
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two of the five open documents are about ‘Weapons technology’ and three are about ‘Financial position’ The notice about blocking Kiera's CMR was on a financial document, but I think we shouldn't read that much into it. Just a prop mistake.
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Well, maybe I should have written a few more sentences there: I tried to point out that even though Alec says he wants to do good and help people, he seems to be doing development on weapon technology.

That he does financial acrobatics we already knew from him buying SAD-Tech.
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We're talking about two different things :-)

I was just saying that the CMR blocking issue on a financial page must have been a prop mistake. You were rightly pointing out he is doing weapons technology after all.
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:) well, ok then.

yes, I basically ignored that. maybe it is just a "popup" that poped up in front of the other document... :D
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the product itself is very much the content of (my) nightmares. A few months ago I got the Jawbone Up as a present. It says it does the same as some basic functions of the Halo device. I have not tried it yet, I rather stay unaware of my unhealthy way of life.
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exactly: give all my health information over to a company that in turn sells it to my insurance company, so that I can watch my rates climb or benefits drop. No thank you.
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Forgot to add that I thought the most disturbing part of the Halo device was the mind/emotion control aspect not so much the vital stats part or disease detection part. The melding of computer and human is coming but it's disturbing.
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Unfortunately that is already happening and has been for a while. No not necessarily tied back to you personally yet but easily could be. Electronic medical records makes it a whole lot easier but information has been collected for a number of years now. My company has a "health site" - started maybe 5 or so years ago - that ,in order to get a discount on my insurance rates, I need to use to record my vital stats/blood work/personal habits. Money talks and as a society we have voluntarily given up a lot of information about ourselves because of these incentives. And yes this information does affect the aggregate insurance rates as well. It's all in a big database and sold to others.
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Eh, forgot to ask, did anybody else got "Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi; you're my only hope" vibe from that holographic projection? :)
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I saw the film again just yesterday and sorry to say, it didn't hit me. Older Kellog is no dame in distress.
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You could say Garza
puts on sunglasses
nailed it!
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

(and it will prevent Kiera from putting foot in her mouth)
What? OK, nevermind.....

One of better episodes. So much new information. We get to see who killed one Kiera, more info about nature of time travel (yes, I know I bring this up every week), more relations between main players.

But seriously, once Kiera and Carlos see Jason has been cleared it doesn't take a genious to figure out by whom and why. Jason works for Piron and is Alec's son, Piron is bankrolling (at least this particular departemnt of) VPD and Dillon is closely connected to Piron. The fact that neither sees and connects this doesn't speak much about their deductive skills.

Not sure how Brad's super secret weapons stash worked. If he came from the future then weapon wouldn't travel with him. If he stashed it after arriving to now then there are better places to hide it.

Also I think that this "cataclysmic event" was the fact that there were two Kieras and two Aleces at same time at same place. With other time travellers this wasn't an issue since there weren't two of them (future Kagame likely died in season 1 finale before present Kagame was born). I think this connects to season premiere when Freelancer boss lady explains diverging timelines concept.

But hey, at least Carlos stopped hitting that hip flask.

Also it would be interesting if pironcorporation dot com would be actual website, since this sometimes happens when some fictitious sites are shown in show, i.e. producers crate one that actually works.
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Spelling "genius" wrong is the definition of irony, however.
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One thumbs up? That was a beautiful Carusoism.

Just wanted you to know someone got it.
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Well, to be honest, I think Kiera did figure it out, after all she went right over to Alec's office and confronted him and Carlos went after Dillon.

Good question on how that weapons cache worked. I did not even think to ask that...


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I don't think it would be that much of a mystery how Brad's weapon and gear were cached. He did it after offing Kiera but before getting put into a coma. Using the garage of his childhood home makes perfect sense if he believes he would be below the Freelancer radar and Kiera would not know of his existence.
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:)

yeah, for some reason I thought some timetravel was involved. But this of course is the simplest explenation.
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And if you recall, Brad had his gear stored below a small metal box containing childhood keepsakes that he had placed there when a boy. So he would have been familiar with the hidey hole albeit was taking a risk that his younger self wouldn't discover the further recess below his own treasure.
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I don't really know if Kellogg truly liked the idea of himself as some leader in the future as much as he was just intrigued by what he becomes in the future. Interesting that Kiera used her knowledge to destroy Liber8.
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I think he likes being rich better. It would be wierd to see an older version of yourself in a photo or video.
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