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    LuvtheJEm

    [61]Oct 17, 2008
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    falcon_912 wrote:
    Finnegan77 wrote:
    Everyone brought his or her best effort to this ep, Rossi's reluctance to take lead, realizing his emotional ties to the team, Hotchner's admission of his own limitations, JJ's frustration over the media report - a totally great ep.
    Yeah, I noticed how Rossi did really seem concerned. It was really the first time that he was visibly concerned about one of the team members (other than Hotch), at least from what I've seen. JJ showing frustration with the dirtbags of the media has happened before, but it is always entertaining.

    Dirtbags of the media. LOL! I like it. That guy was pretty jailable, wasn't he? I hope he does go to jail. What he did HAS to be against a law of some sort. And the AG can go with him. To some Federal Prison, with really scary people who kick the living crap out of them every day. They deserve no less.

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    falcon_912

    [62]Oct 17, 2008
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    LuvtheJEm wrote:
    Dirtbags of the media. LOL! I like it. That guy was pretty jailable, wasn't he? I hope he does go to jail. What he did HAS to be against a law of some sort. And the AG can go with him. To some Federal Prison, with really scary people who kick the living crap out of them every day. They deserve no less.

    I would have gone with my favorite, tabloid rag, but he didn't work for a newspaper. Of course, another word for rag is the New York Times, but I don't feel like getting into a political argument today. What he was doing was putting people in "clear and present danger," which is punishable by law (after all, freedom of press/speech has its limits, as it should).

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    amaryllis88

    [63]Oct 17, 2008
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    danharr wrote:
    Opps should've said waco/ruby ridge type episode and I'm glad Rossi didn't get the lead despite him being at Ruby Ridge.

    Do we ever find out any more info on what exactly happened at Ruby Ridge that has Rossi on edge? I know he told Morgan a bit about it at the end of the "Identity" episode last season, basically they shot at a woman who was holding a child? I know Waco actually happened, but did Ruby Ridge actually happen? Also in that same episode Reid points out to Rossi that he skips over that incident in his books that he wrote.
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    Finnegan77

    [64]Oct 17, 2008
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    amaryllis88 wrote:
    danharr wrote:
    Opps should've said waco/ruby ridge type episode and I'm glad Rossi didn't get the lead despite him being at Ruby Ridge.

    Do we ever find out any more info on what exactly happened at Ruby Ridge that has Rossi on edge? I know he told Morgan a bit about it at the end of the "Identity" episode last season, basically they shot at a woman who was holding a child? I know Waco actually happened, but did Ruby Ridge actually happen? Also in that same episode Reid points out to Rossi that he skips over that incident in his books that he wrote.

    Check out the allusion on the Minimal Loss page and you'll understand. Ruby Ridge did indeed happen, and the guys involved have been dodging lawsuits ever since.
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    falcon_912

    [65]Oct 17, 2008
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    [QUOTE="amaryllis88 basically they shot at a woman who was holding a child? QUOTE]

    Sounds vaguely familiar to a scene in the movie Hannibal, which I just watched for the first time over the weekend.
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    amaryllis88

    [66]Oct 17, 2008
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    falcon_912 wrote:

    Sounds vaguely familiar to a scene in the movie Hannibal, which I just watched for the first time over the weekend.

    It does doesn't it? Julianne Moore's character, Clarice, shoots that African-American woman who's also clutching at her child...how eerily similar!

    Finnegan, thanks.
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    falcon_912

    [67]Oct 17, 2008
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    Yep, that's it. Moore was decent, but I personally liked Jodie Foster as Clarice. Maybe it is just because Silence came out first and it didn't seem right for one character to be played by two different people, maybe it was just that Silence was a better movie. I absolutely love the Hannibal movies, but the phrase "white trash" is way overused in Hannibal. In Silence, it was used once to describe Clarice, but in Hannibal it was probably used at least four or five times. I mean really, if Dr. Lector is so smart then maybe he should expand his vocabulary. I read Silence of the Lambs eventually. Already read the first of the series, Red Dragon. Excellent read, although it is set up in the same format as Silence (Hannibal imprisoned helps FBI catch other serial killer). That part about Hannibal was actually based off Ted Bundy, he helped the FBI catch other killers after he was caught (the fact that Buffalo Bill acted injured to lure in his victims was also based off Bundy).
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    RTTV989

    [68]Oct 21, 2008
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    Just got around to watching the episode. It was a great episode, different from any episode we have got before. Reid and Emily were great in this episode. I am really starting to like Emily more, after I wasnt a huge fan of hers last season and season 2.
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    Bones13196

    [69]Oct 22, 2008
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    I've always liked Emily, but I really liked her in this episode. I thought the whole beating scene was fantastic. Not because she got hurt (obviously) but because of how she antagonized Cyrus and the looks on the faces of Rossi, Hotch, and Morgan.

    As for Reid/Prentiss? Sibling relationship, IMO.

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    44hilla44

    [70]Nov 1, 2008
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    i want morgen and emily together=] not emily and ried.

    anyway it was an AMAZING episode!

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    CMJunkie

    [71]Nov 1, 2008
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    44hilla44 wrote:

    i want morgen and emily together=] not emily and ried.

    anyway it was an AMAZING episode!


    'scuse me while I puke

    NO SHIPS

    but it WAS a great epi
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    amaryllis88

    [72]Nov 1, 2008
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    CMJunkie wrote:

    'scuse me while I puke

    NO SHIPS

    but it WAS a great epi

    As much as I'd love for these characters to have great relationships with one another, I'm all for them keeping the working/camraderie/ occasionally going out for drinks/eats kind of relationship going. Like when we see them as a group in that bar, when Hotch & Haley are still together, or when they're going out to eat/discuss when Prentiss, Morgan, & Reid were at that diner in Limelight. I really love that kind of getting to know one another kinda deals, I think a relationship with one another might just kill it, and it'll probably get too soap-operaish, because you only have a certain number of people to work with... I like the addition of Kevin Lynch though, I will say I'm happy for Penelope in that respect.
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    44hilla44

    [73]Nov 2, 2008
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    CMJunkie wrote:
    44hilla44 wrote:

    i want morgen and emily together=] not emily and ried.

    anyway it was an AMAZING episode!
    'scuse me while I puke NO SHIPS but it WAS a great epi

    why!? they are cute together! and they bet on dinner in season four!

    i really want them together :]

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    MissMaple

    [74]Dec 12, 2008
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    Yeah, I know, it's pretty late to be commenting on this episode - but I didn't get to watch it until yesterday. I won't be going on about the "great episode, amazing acting etc. etc. " stuff - I just wanted to add two things to the discussion:

    1. WOW, DID LUKE PERRY GET OLD! Never in a million years would I have recognized him, if I hadn't read his name in the credits (and I looked at IMDB to check whether it's the same Luke Perry who played Wosshisname in Beverly Hills seemingly a hundred years ago). Hm, seems I'm no longer 13 as well... But he made the impression of a much better actor to me yesterday than in the nineties. Cyrus was a brilliant villain imo, and he actually managed to secure some initial sympathies! My Kudos to Luke Perry for this role. Seems he aged well

    2. The bugs. As I understood it, they installed laser microphones, not simple bugs. That's why Emily lifted the blinds with her heel to give them a better reception. (Laser microphones measure the vibrations sound causes on glass surfaces such as windows and through an electronics signal conditioning and acquisition the vibrations are calculated back to sound waves / voices. I hear, it works pretty well although it sounds pretty James-Bond-like). How they could witness the beating, however, in a room that had no windows that I could see, I'm at a loss to explain...

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    lynna12000

    [75]Dec 17, 2008
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    They may not have seen the beating, but they could hear it. And Morgan, Hotch, and Rossi have been around long enough, and imaginative enough, to be able to picture what was happening to their colleague.
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    MissMaple

    [76]Dec 18, 2008
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    That's my point - with laser microphones you need windows or something similar to be able to listen.
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    lynna12000

    [77]Dec 18, 2008
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    MissMaple wrote:
    That's my point - with laser microphones you need windows or something similar to be able to listen.


    Creative lisence on the part of the writers? Other than very minor technical inaccuracies, this was an outstanding episode.
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    Finnegan77

    [78]Dec 19, 2008
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    MissMaple wrote:
    That's my point - with laser microphones you need windows or something similar to be able to listen.


    No, they were using parabolic microphones on the windows (Emily's scene in the bedroom), AND they added regular audio bugs to the supplies that Rossi brought to the cult. It was those bugs that allowed them to hear the beating, Reid's conversations with the cult leader, etc. inside the largely window-less structure.
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    MissMaple

    [79]Dec 21, 2008
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    Ah, ok, that explains it. Thanks, I didn't notice the conventional bugs were slipped in as well!
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