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    OnePerCentClub

    [1]Apr 7, 2011
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    Please discuss here the episode "Unleashed" airing on April 7th.


    Do not discuss other episodes here.


    Lady Heather is back... don't forget to watch!

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    haldrey

    [2]Apr 8, 2011
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    Woof, excellent episode, both cases, very well done.
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    csistokesfan

    [3]Apr 8, 2011
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    haldrey wrote:
    Woof, excellent episode, both cases, very well done.
    I agree this episode was wonderful This eppy is in my top 3 favorites of all time!!!
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    StellaMagic

    [4]Apr 8, 2011
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    Nice to see those cheer-smearers get what they deserve. What punishment do you think they will get?
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    rush_86

    [5]Apr 8, 2011
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    i dont think csi has been this great in a while, i was crying when nathan held his baby and named her maria...
    does anyone know that actors name ( the one who played nathan???)
    absolutely amazing, well done!!
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    Tirill

    [6]Apr 8, 2011
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    Good episode. Really liked it. It was good to see Lady Heather again And Nick and Doc Robbins was awesome. Loved Nathan with his baby and I even liked seeing Ecklie again.


    CSI Las Vegas is still going strong in my opinion. Unlike CSI Miami.


    P.S Maybe I´ve gone blind but I don´t remeber seeing Willows in this episode? Am I right or have I gone completely insane?


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    csistokesfan

    [7]Apr 8, 2011
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    Tirill wrote:

    Good episode. Really liked it. It was good to see Lady Heather again And Nick and Doc Robbins was awesome. Loved Nathan with his baby and I even liked seeing Ecklie again.


    CSI Las Vegas is still going strong in my opinion. Unlike CSI Miami.


    P.S Maybe I´ve gone blind but I don´t remeber seeing Willows in this episode? Am I right or have I gone completely insane?


    nope she wasn't in the eppy, I don't think Greggo was either was he?
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    danharr

    [8]Apr 8, 2011
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    Great episode one of the best of the post Grissome era and nice to see Lady Heather again but come on Sara got the guy she still can't deal with a chick he screwed once upon a time amazes me how childish people are. Langston gets to go crazy Lady Heather says so lol!

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    vicbjones

    [9]Apr 8, 2011
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    It was a good episode., although I was a little put-off by Nick's frustrated (Orwellian)?) desire to punish people for "looking at something they shouldn't have"? Definitely better than Lady Heather's last appearance. Is this the first time Archie has solved a case virtually on his own?
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    OnePerCentClub

    [10]Apr 10, 2011
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    Well, I think it was a great episode too and I'm glad that they addressed the bully topic. It is just so terrible what some kids do and they'd better start being punished for the damage they cause.
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    OnePerCentClub

    [11]Apr 10, 2011
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    StellaMagic wrote:
    Nice to see those cheer-smearers get what they deserve. What punishment do you think they will get?


    Well, I really hope they go to jail. Psychological torture can be as terrible as physical.

    And no, Willows wasn't in this episode. Sorry to say this again, but I didn't miss her. I think they're preparing us for her departure.
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    maoejo

    [12]Apr 23, 2011
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    I'm not that big of a fan of CSI, but I watched it because apparently Brooke Anne Smith was in it, so I might as well analyze what kind of character she plays.


    The part about Human pets was extraordinarily disturbing. The guy who owned those female catwomen I could officially say is even worse than Hugh Heffner in regards to the treatment of Females. What he exploited with females was bad, but at least he allowed his Playboy Bunnies to remain human in terms of nature. Those Catwomen weren't even allowed that, becoming more beast than human, abominations.


    The subplot was also very tragic for Maria. Took her own life (and nearly her own child's life as well)partially due to cyberbullying. I can actually sympathize with her character, since I had to witness and personally experience that horrific kind of bullying myself. On Bulbagarden and Serebii.net, various comrades of mine, as well as myself, were picked on and bullied simply because unlike the higher ups, we believed that a certain redhead character would return to the series. Just to give an idea of how bad it was, we were either banned despite not doing any wrongdoing just for us to act as a scapegoat for people who actually do flame others/troll simply because of our beliefs, or respectively placed in the Hall of Shame just for defending her fans or trying to help her fans enact a plan just to bring her back. It's not just to these guys, either. Anyone who disagreed with the Mods was subject to it as well. Youtube made similar posts to my videos as well, mocking me for my beliefs, especially my beliefs that the exploitation of women, aka Pornography, should be annihilated, and in fact this belief is one of the reasons why I tried to bring this character back. I've also seen it on Wikias as well. In particular, the Metal Gear Wiki, a particular anon often decries editors that he disagrees with as being morons, freely admits to wanting to annoy them, and has also hinted at wanting the people he disagrees with to slit their own throats, and once even posted pics of decapitated Iraqi heads.


    Because of my experiences, I know EXACTLY the kind of pain she had to go through. Granted, it was not enough to actually consider suicide, but still...On that note, this is the first character Brooke Anne Smith played that I hada lot ofsympathy for. Jenna I didn't take favorably in Max Keeble's Big Move, to say the very least. Marsha Chalker irked me for similar reasons in 7th Heaven, The little I have seen of her character Tracey in Malcolm in the Middle I was baffled by in terms of her and her friends antics. I can't really comment on her character on My Wife and Kids. Stacey Green seemed for the most part positive, but I can't make a fair estimate, and Claire Tate seemed somewhat cold.


    As much as I hate the Cheerleaders for what they did, I can't really agree with punishment, even IF they deserved it. The reason why partially stemmed from my own experiences from being cyberbullied, but also stems from witnessing of human behavior past and present. When I was sent to the Hall of Shame, even when I actually deserved it, people still mocked me as my punishment. Plus, there have been instances where Punishment, Justice, even law itself was shown to be used, whether good or bad, for the exact same thing, to hurtpeople. King Henry the 8th tried to exterminate us Catholics for the fact that we had practiced the religion after he created the Church of England. Another one is where Domitian exiled his wife for her affair with Paris, but he himself was already in an extramarital affair, as well as very similar actions committed by the GraecoRoman Pantheon.I could go into various otherexamples of law and justice only bringing suffering to people, as well as it being used to take joy in the suffering of others, but I'm not sure the text limit would allow it. Basically, because I read about this in history and the present, as well as have personally experienced this, and witnessed it, I have maintained a belief that Law, Justice, and Punishment are nothing more than excuses to be as much of a heartless, sadistic monster as the ones who are being given punishment, similar to the Basterds in The Inglorious Basterds. As much as I may not be of this nature, I fear that even I could become a similar monster to Cybercubed/Scott85/Gliscor'd, the Basterds, Dr. Weil, Hitler or those kinds of things if I am to be in law, due to the fact that human nature seems to demand for excessive cruelty in regards to the law, regardless ofwhether the person is inherently good or inherently evil.


    Cyberbullying must be stopped. Plus, I'm not sure if law itself should continue to exist, as it only seems to promote suffering.

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    StellaMagic

    [13]Apr 24, 2011
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    What do you mean Hall of Shame?
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    maoejo

    [14]Apr 24, 2011
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    Don't make me explain it...


    All right, the Hall of Shame was a subsection on Bulbagarden that places people in a forum where they outright ridicule and mock them as punishment for going against the mods, or... well, simply if they don't agree with your viewpoints.

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    tullytonka

    [15]Sep 25, 2013
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    Maoejo, I respectfully disagree. I think the punishment was very fitting, but I think more should have been done instead of suspension. I cannot remember the episode bit by bit, but if I correctly recall, Maria was not that terrible of a person, so it saddens, scares me, and sickens me that that so many wanted her to kill herself (mind you she was already suicidal enough as it was), most mind you who do not even know her. We are not talking about ten, we are not talking about fifty, we are not even talking about a hundred, we are talking about thousands. The video got almost a million hits if I remember right?

    Overall, it had a good message, but a bad ending. They could have at least made the girls publicly apologize, and given Maria a proper funeral, but what is done is done. If I had the chance to re-write the ending, though, I would. I will admit, though it is a good episode, the writers did not need to make things so extreme.

    Do not get me wrong, I am glad some show finally brought up how serious cyber-bulling can be, and I am very sorry that happened to you, but they did not need to make things so painfully dramatic, and though I have heard of several of cyber-bulling cases, I never heard anything that incredibly devastating, but then, I have not heard of all of the cyber-bullying cases in the world. If I were in her shoes, I would probably tell (even if it was a thousand) everyone to go screw their selves. I really wish she could have handled things differently, but as I earlier said, what is done is done.
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