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CSI: Crime Scene Investigation

Season 4 Episode 5

Fur and Loathing

Aired Sunday 10:00 PM Oct 30, 2003 on CBS
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Episode Summary

The team is introduced to the "Furry" side of Vegas when a man is found dead on the side of the road, dressed in a racoon suit. Elsewhere in Vegas, a gunshot victim is found in a deep-freezer, frozen solid.

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  • Offensive and inaccurate

    This episode is a major contributing factor towards the negative perception of the furry fandom. I've got to admit though, watching this episode as a furry, I laughed at the absurd inaccuracy. "My friends call me sexy" literally woke up my house with my laughter.
  • seems like you hate furs

    i enjoy csi, its ultimatly a very good program and interesting to watch, however, there is a lot of discrimination in some programs, especially those concerning accults and fandoms. For example, the episode which has furrys in it (or, what csi sees furrys as) has caused a lot of unwanted attention between the fandom and the mainstream, it showed furs in a very bad light, and in the so called furry convention, well, nothing like it ever happens. I suggest, to appologise to the furry community, you make a new episode and show them how they really are, or, make the mainstream realise that this does not happen by making a small "special episode" in which those acting in csi say how the program makes things up etc.

    Please take the time to read through this site: http://timiair.wix.com/furryfandom#!home/mainPage

    and contact me if you have any questions on how you can make csi better (not as rasict/discriminate to other fandoms/accults) thank you.moreless
  • Very offensive and inaccurate portrayal of the furries

    CSI needs to better research things before making episodes, what this episode did was portray a very inaccurate view of Anthropomoprhic fans (furrys) and paints them as perverted sex hounds when in reality they are normal folks who like to attend get-togethers and wear fursuits. Id like to direct you to an article by Hartford Advocate, the writer went undercover to a furry convention and summerized the experience with this quote "The Furry convention wasn't a sex thing but the exact opposite: an innocent world of children's-book animals, where a 3-year-old can roam with impunity and a maladjusted kid can enter the room with nobody leaving. „-Jennifer Abel, Hell Hath No Furries Full Article may be found here:http://www.hartfordadvocate.com/featured-news/hell-hath-no-furries.html

    Furries are skewed by the media and protrayed as a bunch of sex-craving wierdos when in fact they are good people. Now I wont blame the media completely for this bad image as some of the blame lies on the Furry community as well. They have become so afraid of media that they prevent media from being at Furry events and tell people to avoid the media and avoid talking to them. If Furries want to be shown in good light they should open up themselves more and let people see they are good folks instead of acting like the media is always out to hurt them.moreless
  • A man is found shot dead in a blue raccoon costume, a woman is killed driving head-on into a big-rig, a frozen victim of a gunshot would is found, and the team is introduced to one variation of furry culture.moreless

    Though odd and laugh-out-loud funny, this episode may offend some furries and cosplayers. It's more respectful than any other TV show that has dealt with fandom situations in the past, but it still does make the participants out to be a bit on the sick side.

    Being very familiar with this sub-culture and some of the related cultures, I found this very entertaining, familiar, and disturbing. Since it didn't go too way out, or over the top, this ended up being one of my favorite episodes, with several approprate "cringe" moments. The writing to get from the opening of both the freezer and the furry segments to the final explanation was also quite well done (unlike many of the episodes in the 2007-2008 run, which suffered greatly from sloppy writing and horribly unreal fictional explanations).

    I also found nearly all the humor and in-jokes quite well placed, even though a few were quite the "groaners."moreless
  • A very weird episode.

    There was a car accident. Besides the dead driver, another dead body lays on the side of the road. He is wearing a mascot-type suit of a raccoon. He died from a bullet wound. His furry costume leads the detectives to a convention for people who identify themselves as animals, expressed via their costumes. A second case involves a dead man found in a freezer. Like the first victim, he also died from a bullet wound. This episode written by Jerry Stahl and directed by Richard J.Lewis. A very weird episode. Both entertaining and disturbing. Hopefully the next episode will be better.moreless
Kim Robillard

Kim Robillard


Guest Star

Kimble Jemison

Kimble Jemison


Guest Star

Traci L. Crouch

Traci L. Crouch

Linda Jones

Guest Star

David Berman

David Berman

David Phillips

Recurring Role

Geoffrey Rivas

Geoffrey Rivas

Det. Sam Vega

Recurring Role

Wallace Langham

Wallace Langham

David Hodges

Recurring Role

Trivia, Notes, Quotes and Allusions


  • TRIVIA (2)

  • QUOTES (22)

    • Grissom: Are you alright, David?
      David (looks at dead man in raccoon suit): Its just... disturbing. There was a big raccoon who hosted an after-school kids show when I was little. Stripey. Everybody loved him. I loved him.

    • Catherine: PAFCON?
      Grissom: Plushies and Furries convention. And we're looking for a bright blue plushie... I think. (Catherine looks deadpanned) This is fascinating. A whole tribe of people that prefer to interact as furry animals instead of human beings.
      Catherine: I think I'm having Hunter S. Thompson flashbacks. This is weirding me out.
      Grissom: It's not that weird. It's instinctual. Many native American tribes wore entire bear skins including the heads when they performed their war dances. They thought it made them brave.
      Catherine (still stunned): I'm not getting the brave thing.
      Grissom: Think of stuffed animals as a Jungian archetype. What's the one quality they possess that a man like Bob Pitt might want?
      Catherine: Uh...a full head of hair?
      Grissom: They're lovable. We gotta divide and mingle. I'm gonna take in a lecture. (Catherine just stands there stunned and Grissom walks away)

    • Catherine: Okay... Well, I have heard of some guys getting off in some weird ways... but humping an animal suit? Whatever happened to normal sex?
      Grissom: What is normal sex?
      Catherine: Uh... you think it's normal for a grown human to only be intimate with a talking animal?
      Grissom: Well, Freud said that the only unusual sexual behavior was not to have any at all. After that, it was only a matter of opportunity and preference. Some people obviously prefer the feel of fur to the texture of human skin.
      Catherine: Well, I like a hairy chest, but that doesn't mean I'm going to go bop a six-foot weasel.
      Greg (walks in): Bud is starting to look like a pretty bad cat. Trace from his costume.
      Grissom: Well... Identical to the trace we found in Rocky Raccoon's vomit. Ipecac and civet oil.
      Greg: Well, that's what you get for eatin'... (Grissom gives him a look and Catherine smiles)

    • Brass: Well, the rancher's going to get off, Linda's dead, and Wolfie... skates with a misdemeanor.
      Catherine: We took one look at those furry suits and thought "foul play," but this was really just a domestic dispute gone mad.
      Grissom: Fur and loathing in Las Vegas.

    • (After he has defined yiffing)
      Bud: I know what you're thinking.
      Catherine: You couldn't possibly.

    • (At the crime scene looking at a guy in a raccoon costume)
      Catherine: I once dated the Detroit Lions mascot. Off-season. Dutch was his name.
      Grissom: The breadth of your social experience never ceases to impress me. (Catherine smiles)

    • Catherine: So he was shot and hit by a car.
      David: Bad night.
      Grissom: Even for a raccoon.

    • (After blood spills out of the raccoon's costume when David's cutting it off)
      Catherine: This isn't a costume, it's a six foot condom.

    • (After finding three "plushies" with blue fur)
      Grissom: I guess we're lucky blue's not a more popular color.
      Sexy Kitty: Hello! This is racial profiling!
      Catherine: Uh..we're also going of need samples of your...fur.
      Grissom: We're also gonna need to talk to you without the masks on. (they all take them off but Sexy Kitty)
      Catherine: You uh...have a problem with that?
      Sexy Kitty: You wouldn't ask a human lady to take off her makeup. So if you wanna talk to me, this is the me you're going to talk to. (Catherine and Grissom look at each other)

    • Sara: So, who is the masked man?
      Nick: Well, Lone Ranger had Tonto. Some doofus has George.

    • Bud (while still in kitty costume): My friends call me 'Sexy'.
      Brass: Oh, lucky you.

    • Catherine (upon seeing a fur pile): Whoa, Nelly!

    • Sara: Why would someone use house paint on a car?
      Hodges: Maybe he remodelled the breakfast nook and had some left over. Who knows? I've stopped trying to figured out what people do any more.
      Sara: That's smart.
      Hodges: Yeah I know.

    • Wolf: What's the password?
      Catherine: E-I-E-I-O?

    • Security Guard: A little after 11:00. Grabbed a burger and came back.
      Nick: What kind of burger?
      Security Guard: In 'n' Out -- three blocks from here.
      Nick: I love In 'n' Out. I always get the In 'n' Out double, animal style.
      Security Guard: That's what I get.
      Nick: You grill the onions?
      Security Guard: Hell, yeah.
      Nick: Now, that is crazy, Petey, 'cause you know, being an In 'n' Out kind of guy, I know it takes at least five minutes to grill the onions alone.
      Security Guard: Come on, man.
      Nick: That time of night, you're lucky if you don't wait 20 minutes just to get to the window.
      Security Guard: Look, my boss finds out I'm leaving the site every night to get my burger on, I'm toast.
      Detective Vega: You keep lying to us, you're gonna be toast in a jumpsuit.

    • Nick: I already checked. There's not too many places in Clark County that specialize in granite installation, so...
      Sara: Okay, I will bet you a double-double animal style that one of them employs a guy with a blue 1984 Monte Carlo.
      Nick: That's a bet.
      Sara: Excellent.

    • (a suspect is at a "Furry" convention)
      Brass: What do we do... put out an A.P.B. on Tom and Jerry?

    • Grissom: Most mammals only copulate seasonally.
      Catherine: How boring.
      Grissom: For some.

    • Catherine: The eternal question... Why did the man in the raccoon suit cross the road?

    • Bud: Rocky was "scritching" me.
      Catherine: That's one I haven't heard.
      Bud: It's friendly scratching. People who don't know each other can't just nuzzle and trade tummy rubs. But for animals scritching is perfectly normal.
      Catherine: Well... killing is perfectly normal for them too. Doesn't make it legal for you.

    • Dr. Robbins: Last time this happened they tried to chop the guy out. 1989, the year the Mirage opened.
      Nick: How'd it go?
      Dr. Robbins: Eh, lost an arm and a leg.

    • Catherine: Anything on Mr. Raccoon?
      Warrick: Yeah, Robert Pitt. Court Ordered to AA after a DUI.
      Catherine: That explains the thirty day chip. Maybe he fell off the wagon after he hit 31.
      Warrick: Yeah, if I had to walk around dressed as "Rocky Raccoon" I'd have to be drinking too. I don't get this whole thing.
      Catherine: Hey, Warrick it's Vegas. People come here to be animals.

  • NOTES (1)

    • Music:
      Slippage - Goldfrapp
      Tearing Me Apart - Alamein
      Tiptoe - Goldfrapp
      Burn Out - The Cinematic Orchestra
      Glorious Number 1 - Remy Zero


    • Wolf: What's the password?
      Catherine: E-I-E-I-O

      Catherine's response is from the children's nursery rhyme Old MacDonald had a Farm about a farmer and the menagerie of animals he had on his farm. Each verse of the song changes the name of the animal and its respective noise.

    • Brass: What do we do... put out an A.P.B. on Tom and Jerry?

      Tom and Jerry are an animated cat (Tom) and mouse (Jerry) team first shown in 1941 as theatrical shorts, that went on to spawn TV and movie appearances up to the present day. Their name has become synonymous with the never-ending rivalry between predator and prey.

    • Nick: The Lone Ranger had Tonto...

      The Lone Ranger was a popular radio/TV series during the 1940s-50s. Tonto was the Lone Ranger's sidekick, who often aided the Ranger in troubling situations.

    • Grissom: We have a grassy knoll but no Lee Harvey Oswald.

      He's referring to the man who was arrested for shooting President Kennedy and the grassy knoll is the location where an additional gunman is thought to have stood.

    • Catherine: I think I'm having Hunter S. Thompson's flashbacks. This is weirding me out.

      This, as well as the title of this episode, is a reference to the book Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas written by Hunter S. Thompson.

    • Warrick: Yeah, if I had to walk around dressed as "Rocky Raccoon" I'd have to be drinking too.

      Rocky Raccoon is the title of The Beatles song from the "White Album".

    • Nick: I love IN-N-OUT. I always get the double-double, animal style.

      IN-N-OUT burger is a family owned chain of fast food restaurants located mostly in California. They are known for remarkably fresh and delicious food. The first IN-N-OUT was opened by Harry and Esther Snyder in Baldwin Park in 1948. It was the first drive-thru hamburger stand in California. Everything is still made fresh to order, as it was in 1948. There are no microwaves or freezers. IN-N-OUT restaurants can now be found in Nevada and Arizona.

    • Sara: Okay MacGyver, stand up and hold out your arms.

      MacGyver was a popular 1980s show starring Richard Dean Anderson as an unlikely hero who could defeat the bad guys by making complicated machines out of ordinary materials.