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CSI: Crime Scene Investigation

Season 1 Episode 16

Too Tough to Die

Aired Sunday 10:00 PM Mar 01, 2001 on CBS
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Episode Summary

A woman is abducted from a mall parking garage. She's raped, beaten, shot and left for dead. Sara collects evidence from her and grows attached to her. Nick and Grissom analyze the crime scene. Catherine and Warrick are given boxes of evidence from a shooting that goes to trial in four days. The CSI who had the case has quit and they have to prove what happened. To make Catherine's life more complicated, Eddie has taken out a second mortgage without her knowledge.moreless

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  • A woman is abducted, raped and left for dead. Sara investigates the case and gets a little too close to the victim.

    Jorja Fox certainly does an excellent job here. She carries this episode no doubt. This episode certainly touches all emotions. For me I felt anger more than anything. The reason for that is the criminal basically won. He knew because he was well below the age of eighteen he was only going to get a light sentence. He even proudly boasted of it. You can almost feel Sara's pain knowing that she accomplished her goal and brought the woman's abductor/rapist to justice, there really would not be any justice. This is sadly a reality in many cases though I wish it were not. Despite this empty feeling, I think it is a good thing that we saw an episode such as this one. It shows a reality of law enforcement that many, including myself, never existed.moreless
  • Error from the beginning

    The very first scene sets up the story with a MASSIVE error.

    First: The woman is walking to her car, gets out her keys and uses a remote to unlock the car. We hear the car's unlocking beep. Why is it, that 5 seconds later she is using her key to unlock the door?

    Second: The kidnapper jumps her from behind. When she is walking to the car we notice that her car is on a nice open area with nothing to either side of the parkade and no place to hide. Unless he was crouching in front of the car, climber over the parkade wall, or was in some way cloaked, there would be no way that she didn't see him.

    In the following scene, we can clearly see the actress blinking when she's meant to be unconscious.moreless
  • Emotional, brilliant and cool, Sara will always rule

    This episode starts quite differently, because we see the victim beeing attacked, and then we see the people who come accross the crime scene. But the main point in this story is not only about this girl being raped. It is the fact that she fights, she stays alive, even though she has been raped and shot in the head. And Sara, who cannot bear domestic violence because of her personal experience, gets emotionally involved and does everything to find out who the assaulter is.

    She does the exam on the victim herself, she talks to her permanently, promising her she will find out who did it, she looks at the missing person files for hours and hours, she pushes the evidence, she visits the victim at the hospital often. During all these little things, Grissom who is anxious, advises Sara to let it go and tells her that no victim has to be special. He finally rushes the investigation because Sara\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s state becomes alarming.

    There are few scenes between the two of them that will please GSR shippers, including the one at the end, where we learn that the victim is going to be in a vegetative state for the rest of her life. Sara cries for the first time in CSI and when Grissom tells her she has to let it go, she answers : \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\" I wish I was like you, Grissom, I wish I didn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t feel anything\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\". The episode ends here.

    I think every episode uncovers a part of a particular charater. But the whole episode was about Sara, learning that she can sing, that she spends her time reading crime books and listening to the scanner, that

    she does not like anything, and that she is a fragile heart, a sensitive girl with a lot of feelings.

    This episode is not worth a then though : All the action was about Sara\\\'s investigation, and the other one was pretty boring

  • What a great episode! One of the few episodes where the victim actually doesn't die.

    Nevertheless, it was very interesting to watch. This is the first of many episodes where Sara seems to became attached to the victims, which isn't an unnatural scenario for a crime lab.

    Also, there was a lot of GSR, and that made me happy :) Poor Sara, "I wish I was like you, Grissom. I wish I didn't feel anything". That was very touching.
  • How can I give this episode less than 10?

    This episode is one of the best this season & was oozing with GSR.

    Sara gets emotionally attached to a victim who was raped shot twice in the head & left for dead, but she's still alive because she's too tough to die.

    Grissom also opened up to Sara and finally showed some emotion but Sara kept shutting him out and wouldn't open up to him.

    You could tell that he really cared about her when he decided to use the scent pads and track the rapist down using the dogs knowing that he couldn't get a warrant but willing to do it for Sara.When Nick confronted Grissom & told him that he was doing it for Sara he denied it & said it was for the case.

    The end was so emotional, Sara crying in Grissoms office & telling him that she wishes she was just like him, and couldn't feel a thing. If only she saw his face she would have known that he did have feelings...for her.

Netfa Perry

Netfa Perry

Shandra Thorpe

Guest Star

Timothy Carhart

Timothy Carhart

Eddie Willows

Guest Star

Katy Boyer

Katy Boyer

Laurianne Hastings

Guest Star

Geoffrey Rivas

Geoffrey Rivas

Det. Sam Vega

Recurring Role

Robert David Hall

Robert David Hall

Dr. Al Robbins

Recurring Role

Gerald McCullouch

Gerald McCullouch

Bobby Dawson

Recurring Role

Trivia, Notes, Quotes and Allusions


  • TRIVIA (6)

    • Goof: As a CSI, Sara should have known better than to blow on the speculum to warm it before using it to collect a sample from the rape victim.  Her breath contains particles of her saliva, which could potentially contaminate any evidence.

    • Goof: In the opening scene, the character Pamela Adler, uses a remote access for her car but still uses her key to unlock her car door.

    • It is hinted at in this episodes, and some episodes after this, that Catherine used to have a cocaine problem.

    • Goof: When Catherine and Warrick are testing to find the distance the shots were fired from, when Catherine shoots at the shirt that's 2 feet away there is no gunpowder around the hole. When Warrick puts the victim's shirt next to it, for comparison, there is now an inch of gunpowder around the hole.

    • Sara mentions the title of the episode Too Tough to Die in the episode.

    • Goof: While Sara is looking through missing person's files, Grissom comes in and starts talking to her. In one shot her hair is in front of her face, the next it's behind her ear. This continues throughout the scene.

  • QUOTES (18)

    • Tony: I got nothing to hide. It's no big thing. Cop said lady isn't even dead.
      Grissom: That's true, she isn't ... but if she dies within a year and a day of the shooting ... then it's murder.
      Mrs. Thorpe: Is this some kind of a trick?
      Brass: No, ma'am, it's the law. We're working this case as a murder.
      Tony: At least for the next year and a day and even then, I'm still a juvie.
      Grissom: Well, then I guess the law is on your side, Tony, isn't it? For now.

    • Nick (about the victim): Did she know the guy? Did he use his car or hers?
      Grissom: Locard's principle: He took a piece of her away with him and he left a piece of himself here. (beat) We get to find it.

    • (Eddie has taken a second mortgage out on the house)
      Catherine: You set me up. Again.
      Eddie: How, by taking our daughter to dinner?
      Catherine: Get over here. (Catherine leads Eddie into the next hallway to continue to conversation)
      Eddie: Oh, come on now! What?!
      Catherine: You are so pathetic. Just so pathetic.
      Eddie: Watch it, Cath.
      Catherine: Sucking up to our daughter 'cause I caught you robbing me.
      Eddie: The only thing I robbed you of is good sex. (he moves closer to her)
      Catherine (scoffs): No sex is worth you. And you are not taking my daughter to a club with one of your music whores.
      Eddie: Oh, they're whores? When I met you, you were taking your clothes off in a strip club.
      Catherine: It was a job, Ed. (shows Grissom walking by seeing them arguing, then back to them) And it supported you just like every other job I've had including this one!
      Eddie: Yeah? And who paid to close up your nose?
      Catherine: You're such a bast... (she moves to slap him but he grabs her wrist and pins her against the wall) Let go of me.
      Eddie: I'll let go of you when I'm damn good and... (Grissom comes over and pushes him off of her)
      Grissom: Let go of her, Ed! (they look at each other) Catherine?
      Catherine: Just get him out of here. (walks away)
      Grissom: I don't ever wanna see you in this building again. This is our place of business. You understand that?
      Eddie: I always knew you two had a thing.
      Grissom: Go home, Eddie.
      Eddie: Sure. (walks away)

    • Warrick: This dummy cost over $500?
      Catherine: Oh, yeah. He's worth it. (Catherine picks up the second stick and walks toward the dummy)
      Warrick: Why?
      Catherine: Well, look at him. He's lifelike, he doesn't talk, and he's self-
      Warrick: He's "self-healing"?
      Catherine: Yeah. We make a mistake in our calculations we just start over.

    • (After Grissom gave the dogs a scent, the officers run along side the dogs. Nick watches them run)
      Nick: Whoa! (to Grissom) Are we supposed to be able to keep up with those guys? (Grissom looks at Nick and motions after the dogs)
      Grissom: Yeah! (Nick takes off after them. Grissom stands behind him with a smile on his face and slowly shakes his head. He laughs as he watches Nick run to catch up to the dog. He turns back towards the car)

    • Sara: This sweatband might give us DNA and I could compare it to the samples I collected off of Jane at the hospital.
      Grissom: Jane?
      Sara: Our...Jane Doe. My "death imminent."
      Nick: First-name basis, Sara?

    • Grissom: Hey.
      Sara: Any luck on 23rd street?
      Grissom: I, uh, broke in my new shoes. That's about it. What'd the lab say?
      Sara: The DNA from the ball cap is a match to the semen we found on our Jane Doe. But ... CODIS hasn't kicked out a name.
      Grissom: So you're just...looking at missing persons reports?
      Sara: We're not having any luck finding the shooter from his DNA with a belt loop so I thought I would at least try and identify the poor woman before she dies.
      Grissom: Sara. Do you have any diversions?
      Sara: Do I what?
      Grissom: You max out on overtime every month. You go home and listen to your police scanner. (Sara looks at Grissom) You read forensic textbooks...
      Sara: Yeah.
      Grissom: Look, every day we meet people on the worst day of their lives. It's a lot to deal with. Everyone who's had any time on this job knows that you have to have a diversion in order to cope with what we see. What do you do for fun?
      Sara: I chase rabbits. And...I read crime books. And I listen to the scanner.
      Grissom: You need something outside of law enforcement. Catherine has her kid, you know? I sometimes... ride roller coasters. (Sara looks at Grissom again) What do you do?
      Sara: Nothing.
      Grissom: Okay. What do you like?
      Sara: I don't like anything.
      Grissom: You've got to find something to like. You can't get too close to the victims.
      Sara: She's special...to me. I can't help it.
      Grissom: If you don't find something they'll all become special and you'll burn out.

    • Nick: Now you want to use the dogs to track down the Jane Doe shooter?
      Grissom: K-9 unit's going to meet us there.
      Nick: Yeah, but I spoke to Brass. He said we can't get a warrant on anything we need from the suspect's house--gun, jeans, nothing.
      Grissom: That's if we find him inside his house. In which case, we'll figure out another way to get a warrant.
      Nick: You're rushing this for Sara.
      Grissom: My priority is the case, Nick. Release the hounds.

    • Bobby: So this lady's expected to die. Is that the story?
      Grissom: Somebody raped her, shot her and left her for dead.
      Nick: And left two cartridge casings behind for us. Thank you very much.
      Bobby: That kind of oversight tells you he's stupid.
      Grissom: Or true to form. People are usually meticulous in planning up to a murder. They rarely plan the aftermath.
      Nick: Still, you'd think the bad guys would figure we'd eventually start a database on cartridge casings, huh?

    • Catherine: Why would my bank be asking you about my employment record?
      Grissom: Well, technically, I'm your supervisor. They said that Eddie took a second mortgage out on your house. They said that you still own it together until the divorce is final.
      Catherine (sighs): We didn't want to sell it until the market went back up and then we were going to split the profits. I can't believe he took a second out on the house. How can he do that without my signature?
      Grissom: It's Eddie. I just thought you should know. I gotta get back out to Nick.

    • (Catherine and Warrick are carrying some boxes for Grissom)
      Grissom: Thank you, my sherpas.

    • Nick: Hey, Sara, did anyone ever tell you, you have a pretty good singing voice?
      Sara: If you like chalk on a board!

    • Shandra Thorpe: You police.. coming here with your attack dogs.
      Grissom: Actually, they're scent dogs, and I'm not a police officer. I'm a Forensic Scientist with the Las Vegas Police Department.
      Shandra Thorpe: What do I got to say to a scientist?
      Grissom: You could say "hello."

    • Warrick: Hey...when's the last time you took target practice?
      Catherine: Figures. I just had a manicure.

    • (A dummy is leaning foward and Warrick is behind it leaning over it adjusting something and Catherine takes a picture)
      Warrick: Oh, you are wrong! (Catherine laughs and waves the photo in front of him)

    • Nick: Our ball cap belongs to somebody in this neighborhood. These houses are full of people who know the guy who wears it.
      Brass: Okay, Nick, ready to burn some shoe leather? Some old-fashioned police work? What do you say, huh? (Brass leads them away)
      Nick: Why can't we just use those scent pads?
      Grissom: The dogs? Constitutional issue. We can't get a warrant for the evidence we find off the dogs' search.
      Nick: Great, great. Why'd you even suggest it?
      Grissom: You're a grown man, Nick. Stop whining.

    • Grissom (to Sara): If you try and chase two rabbits you end up losing them both.

    • (Sara sits in Grissom's office across the desk from him. She's quiet. He
      listens intently to her)

      Sara: The husband doesn't get it. (she shakes her head and brushes a tear from her eye) He's so happy she's going to live. He doesn't realize she's going to be in a vegetative state for the rest of her life. (her voice breaks) And that kid Thorpe...is going to be out of juvie in 48 months. (whispers) It's not fair. (she wipes her eyes Grissom takes a breath)
      Grissom: It's the system.
      Sara: What kind of system rewards the suspect when the victim is too tough to die? (Grissom has no answer for her. Sara gets up from the chair, turns and heads for the door. Grissom stops her)
      Grissom: Sara... you got to learn to let this go or you're going to spend all your time in hospitals trying to help the people you couldn't save.
      Sara: I wish I was like you, Grissom. I wish I didn't feel anything. (leaves)

  • NOTES (4)


    • Grissom: Release the hounds.

      This is a popular saying of the character Mr. Burns on the long-running animation show The Simpsons.

    • Sara: St. Catherine...she was tough, she went against the Emperor for persecuting Christians. It took him two or three tries to execute her.

      Sara is referring to St. Catherine of Alexandria, who tried to convince Emperor Maximinus II (309 - 313 A.D.) that persecuting Christians was wrong. He had her beaten and imprisoned, then sentenced her to death on the wheel, which fell apart at her touch. She was then beheaded.