CSI: Crime Scene Investigation

Season 8 Episode 8

You Kill Me

Aired Sunday 10:00 PM Nov 22, 2007 on CBS



  • Trivia

    • In the third case, the number on the board in the evidence locker is the exact numver of days since Greg blew up the lab in 3x22 Play With Fire

    • Despite being a gambling addict, Warrick suggests to Nick that they 'hit the Strip' and play some pai gow or blackjack.

    • Wendy turned 35 in October.

    • Sara is in San Francisco visiting her mother.

    • Running Gags: Bobby Dawson keeps becoming the prime suspect in each murder case. David Phillips is obsessed with checking for "Signs of Sexual Trauma".

    • Goof: In the first case, Archie picks up twice the same cocaine brick (cellophane and duct tape wrapped kilo of coke) from the suitcase

    • Goof: Although Doc Robbins holds Hodges' brain in his hands, Hodges' head is still intact.

    • Mandy is the only "lab rat" not to die in this episode.

    • Goof: In Hodges "thought experiment" flashes of the murders none of the CSI's are wearing gloves while processing the crime scenes.

    • David Hodges is developing a CSI board game. The game pieces are based on Mandy, Henry, Archie, Wendy and himself.

  • Quotes

    • Wendy (during their 'murder' investigation): No, no. Captain Brass is not the kind of cop who smacks a suspect around.
      Henry: Really? He scares me.

    • Wendy: Well, Bobby's a gun guy. Gun guys shoot people.
      Mandy: Gun guys don't shoot people. People shoot people.
      Hodges: Actually, bullets shoot people, shot from guns which are usually in the hands of gun guys.

    • Wendy: You said that the emergency release plunger was bent.
      Hodges: Mm-hmm.
      Wendy: Well, that thing is made of solid steel. How could Henry do that?
      Mandy: Adrenaline kicks in when he finally realizes that he's dying. So, maybe in the moment of crisis, Henry has the strength of ten men. (beat) Ten small men. (laughs)
      Hodges: "Maybe." That word always looks so good on a case report.

    • Archie: Why would Henry wanna kill me?
      Wendy: We're not supposed to care about the why.
      Archie: Whatever.

    • Hodges: Excuse me, we're--
      Archie: Playing a murder game. I know, I get it. I wanna play.
      Wendy: He says it's not a game.
      Archie: Well, I wanna play anyway.
      Hodges: No.
      Archie: Why not?
      Hodges: You're the dead guy.
      Archie: Oh. Well, then I'd have a vested interest in the outcome then, wouldn't I?

    • Archie (while Wendy and Hodges are trying to solve his 'murder'): Hey, people. What's going on?
      Hodges: Nothing.
      Wendy: You look ... better.

    • (referring to the frozen solid vic)
      Robbins: Why don't you let me know when he softens up, and we'll start cutting.
      Phillips: Wait. So. We're just going to wait for him to thaw?
      Robbins: What do you want me to do? Stick him in a microwave?

    • Wendy: Why is even potential advancement so threatening to you?
      Hodges: Hey, Sanders left the lab, he got his ass kicked. I'm just saying...
      Henry: Alright, come on, let's do another one.
      Hodges: Okay, fine. Let's.
      (camera pans over a body lying in a large pool of blood and it's Wendy)
      Wendy: Well now that's a little passive-aggressive, don't you think?

    • Henry: A duster? You made me a lousy duster? That is totally bogus! Okay, aside from the ten thousand other reasons why I'd be crazy to even try that junk, if I were a closet PCP freak I wouldn't do it in the lab!
      Hodges: That's very professional.
      Henry: Archie told me about your sick little "thought experiment" and I want to play, but I still can't believe, even hypothetically, you'd do something like this to me.
      Mandy: Well, Henry, I hypothetically called your mother and I explained everything. That woman is a crier...

    • Mandy (to Wendy and Hodges): Hi! Rack 'em up!
      Hodges: Excuse me?
      Mandy: Well, word on campus is there's a murder game going on...
      Wendy: Oh, no, no, no - it's not a game, it's a "thought experiment".
      Hodges: Sounds like the late Archie Johnson has a big mouth.
      Mandy: Come on, please, it's been really slow at prints all day - who we killing?

    • (Archie has just been blown up)
      Wendy: So Archie is in the garage, he's documenting evidence from a drug bust, he picks up a thing of coke and then it blows up in his face?
      Hodges: No, he picks up a cellophane and duct tape wrapped kilo of coke, and the third one from the top of the stack, blows up in his face. It's important to be specific.
      Wendy: Well, this game is not as much fun as I thought it was going to be.
      Hodges: It's not a game it's a thought experiment. If you want to be a good criminalist-
      Wendy: I am a good criminalist.
      Hodges: If you want to be a better criminalist, then you have to learn to train to...
      Wendy: Learn to think like a criminal. I know.
      Hodges: Look I'm sure Grissom's told you, well maybe not you, but he's told me many times that we speak for the dead. Think of this exercise as a way for the dead to speak for themselves.

    • Greg: There's the vic's other shoe.
      Wendy (about her shoe): Square toe, low heel, stylish but affordable. Flirty, not whorey.
      Henry: You will be missed.

    • Wendy: So, you got time for one more?
      Hodges: Someone's having fun.
      Wendy: Maybe a little.
      Hodges: You're not bad at this. (Henry rolls his eyes)
      Wendy: Thanks, I'm thinking about taking the CSI field test. This is actually really good theory and practice for me.
      Hodges: The field test?
      Wendy: Yeah. (Hodges looks at her strangely) What?..Why?
      Hodges: Nothing.
      Wendy: Nothing?
      Hodges: That's right, a great big pile of nothing from me to you.

    • (Hodges is playing with a mini Wendy)
      Hodges: Oh Hodges I'm so sorry, it's just that I'm jealous of your intellect. (puts Wendy doll over a glass of water) But Wendy you have so much to live for, don't do it your too close to the edge. (drops the Wendy doll in the water) Oh no, I'm drowning, oh God, oh God help me! (makes drowning noises)
      Grissom: What are you doing?
      Hodges: Oh errm.. I was trying to develop a board game based on this place, but not in any legally actionable sense. You get evidence, scenarios, analysis and try to solve diabolical murders.
      Grissom: I like games.
      Hodges: Really?
      Grissom: Yeah.

    • Wendy: Okay are you allergic to being honest with me, because the thing is, if you had actually asked me to help you with this game, I would have. But no, you had to hide a tape recorder under a table, and engage us all in this great big "thought experiment", when in reality it doesn't even matter what I think, because I'm just Mindy big boobs to you. And I... You're the dumbest smart guy I know.
      Hodges: You think I'm smart? (Wendy walks out)

    • Wendy: Aww little lab techs. Sandy Baxter, fingerprint fanatic, Reggie Chang, eagle-eyed AV expert. Andrew Henrys, top notch tox tech. Hodgekins... Hodgekins, you named yourself after cancer. (Wendy picks up the mini Wendy)
      Hodges: Ohhh.
      Wendy: Mindy Bimms, clumsy yet buxom DNA tech. (turning to look at Hodges) Clumsy yet buxom.
      Hodges: It's a redeeming feature. It's a prototype.
      Wendy: So tell me do you think Mindy Bimms is clumsy because she is top-heavy (chucks the mini at Hodges) Or do you just mean clumsy like this (pushes Hodges' game on the floor) Whoops!

    • Hodges: After Hazmat cleans up the scene the coroner does his thing.
      David: No sign of sexual trauma.
      Wendy: What?
      Hodges: I believe he's legally required to check. What the CSI's realize is..
      Nick (crying): I can't believe Archie's gone.
      Warrick (crying): He was too good for this world.
      Wendy: What? They would be very upset.
      Hodges: Can we at least stipulate that they heroically contained their bereavement?
      Wendy: Yes, I think Archie could live with that. So to speak.

    • Hodges: See it's like Clue, but CSI-ier.
      Wendy: Hodges, this is er, kind of impressive. In a painfully, sad, geek type of way.
      Hodges: Well painfully, sad geeks have a lot of spare time on their hands.

    • Grissom (to Hodges): Do I have to walk over to the GCMS or will you just tell me?

    • Nick: Alright Grissom. That's it for me, I'm outta here.
      Grissom: Have a nice day.
      Nick: Yeah, I'm going over to Frank's to grab something to eat. I'll probably be there for at least an hour if you want to, if you want to join me. You know, we don't have to talk about anything particular. Just two guys having breakfast. I just don't think it's good for people to be alone too much. If you want to cool, if not cool. Whatever.

    • Grissom: Ecklie's been on me to finish the monthly stats. So I need a list of all the lab call outs from dispatch as soon as you can.
      Brass: You'll have it by the end of shift tomorrow.
      Grissom: Thanks.
      Brass: So you've been pulling a lot of doubles this week.
      Grissom: Yeah, it's about all I do.
      Brass: Have you been in touch with Sara?
      Grissom: We've talked a little.
      Brass: So, where's she at?
      Grissom: San Francisco. Visiting her mother.
      Brass: No, I mean that's nice. No, but I meant where's she at emotionally? You know, in respect of the two of you?
      Grissom: I can't speak for her.
      Brass: So speak for yourself.
      Grissom: I can't talk. I'm really busy.

    • Hodges: You weren't ready. To leave this, the challenges, the puzzles, the job?
      Grissom: No.
      Hodges: But Sara was?
      Grissom: Yes, she was.
      Hodges: You can't stand in the way of that. When it's time for someone to move on you just gotta let them go.
      Grissom: Let's play the game shall we?
      Hodges: Okay.

    • Catherine: Oh hey! How are you?
      Grissom: Why!?
      Catherine: I can't ask how your doing?
      Grissom: Oh, I'm sorry. I've just had a lot of uh... I've been busy.
      Catherine: Oh, well... maybe you should take a few days off. For once in your career. I mean, you've got enough stored up. Go after her.
      Grissom: It's not what she wants.
      Catherine: What do you want?
      Grissom: I want her to be happy.

    • Grissom: What have you got against Bobby Dawson?
      Hodges: Nothing, running gag.

    • Doc Robbins (David has a huge smile on his face): Oh, get it out of your system.
      David: No sign of sexual trauma.
      Doc Robbins: Get out now! (David runs)

    • Catherine: This could be a case of lab geek-humor gone wrong.

    • Doc Robbins: David, if you feel that your emotion are going to run too--
      David: Look, he's crunchy!

    • Wendy: What about the chemicals that where used to make the explosives? Did we get anything back from trace?
      Hodges: You always get something from trace.

    • Wendy: For something that's not a game, this sure has a lot of rules.

    • Hodges: What the CSIs realize---
      Wendy: They sorted everything already?! That was quick!
      Hodges: Will you let me finish?

    • Hodges: The only thing you need to do is answer two simple questions...
      Archie: Whodunnit and how? (flops back 'dead')

    • Grissom: Hi Greg.
      Greg: Yeah, whatever.

  • Notes

    • International Titles:
      Czech Republic: Dám se zabít (I Will Have Myself Killed)

    • Original International Air Dates:
      Denmark: January 25, 2008 on Kanal 5
      United Kingdom: February 26, 2008 on Channel 5
      New Zealand: March 24, 2008 on TV3
      The Netherlands: March 24, 2008 on RTL4
      Norway: March 25, 2008 on TVNorge
      Latin America: March 31, 2008 on AXN
      Australia: April 21, 2008 on Nine
      Italy: May 8, 2008 on FoxCrime
      Sweden: May 19, 2008 on Kanal 5
      Germany: October 30, 2008 on RTL
      Austria: October 30, 2008 on ORF1
      Spain: November 4, 2008 on AXN
      Finland: January 7, 2009 on MTV3
      Czech Republic: October 15, 2009 on TV Nova

    • Music Featured In This Episode:
      That's Life - Karaoke Tribute

    • This is the first episode of the series to not feature a real murder, or, in fact, a crime of any kind.

    • Starting with this episode, the opening credits no longer feature Jorja Fox and each cast member's pictures are from this season.

  • Allusions

    • Greg erases the "1659" from the OSHA safety sign (DAYS WITHOUT A LOST TIME ACCIDENT) and replaces it with "0".

      This episode aired 1659 days after the Season 3 "Play With Fire," in which Greg was seriously injured when part of the lab exploded.

    • This episode is filled with references to the Season 7 episode"Lab Rats."
      Among the references include:
      1) Hodges creating a board game called "Lab Rats."
      2) Hodges eating "Lucky Chips", the same kind of potato chips he eats in "Lab Rats."
      3) The episode revolves around the the "Lab Rats": Hodges, Wendy, Mandy, Henry and Archie.
      4) Archie is the second lab tech to have the final words before the beginning credits roll (after Hodges in the episode "Lab Rats").
      5) This episode is filmed completely in the CSI lab, with only the Main Stars and Recurring Guest "Lab Rat" cast appearing.

    • Warrick asks Nick to play Blackjack and Pai Gow. "Pai Gow" poker (or Double-hand poker) is an Americanized version of Pai Gow, in that it is played with playing cards using poker hand rankings, while Pai Gow is played with Chinese dominoes.

    • Near the end of the episode, Hodges refers to himself as a "Padawan" and to Grissom as a "Jedi Master" from the 1977 film Star Wars.

    • Wendy: There was a motorcycle battery in the ventilation duct?
      Henry: Wired to the ladder and the evidence box?
      Hodges: Precisely. Devilishly clever wouldn't you say?
      Henry: No.
      Wendy: Well who's the killer Wile E. Coyote?

      Wile E. Coyote (also known simply as "The Coyote") and the Road Runner are cartoon characters from a series of Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies cartoons. The Coyote tries to capture the Road Runner often using Rube Goldberg devices (exceedingly complex apparatuses that perform a very simple task in a very indirect and convoluted way).

    • Episode Title: You Kill Me

      The title of this episode is a reference to the 2007 film You Kill Me.

    • Clue: Hodges' game is directly referred to as "Clue for Forensics Buffs". Clue is a similar real-life boardgame where players solve a murder with several possible outcomes.

    • Wendy: You are the dumbest smart guy I know.

      This is a reference to a quote that Det. Del Spooner tells Dr. Calvin, who is very intelligent but lacks people skills, from the 2004 film I, Robot.

    • Hodges: Hey, Sanders left the lab and got his ass kicked.

      This is a reference to the Season 7 episode "Fannysmackin'."

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