Season 7 Episode 3

Damned If You Do

Aired Friday 9:00 PM Oct 08, 2010 on CBS
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Episode Summary

A couple is found brutally attacked in their bed, left for dead. Although the woman identifies her attacker, the case takes a turn when another witness comes forward.

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  • One of the best cases ever!

    For a moment I thought that the case would never be solved, the evidence wasn't there for their two suspects and then that one little piece of evidence brought the team to the real killer. I like cases that make you guess all the time and that make you wonder how in the world they team is going to solve the case.

    I also loved the scene where Adam got to play the polygraph expert, Adam was really good at acting in that scene and so cute with the glasses on!

    As for the how the case turned out, the moment Lindsay revealed some important evidence about the killer's past it was easy to guess his motive, which in the end only caused him from going straight back to jail. Sad, how a person can just throw their life away like that and not even manage to take their anger out on the right person.

    In the end; very good episode and a very good case!moreless
  • 703

    Okay, so this episode was worth watching, it was interesting, good case from the get go, solid acting (although Sela Ward needs to stop standing there with a mischievous look on her face and actually try to pay attention) but I cannot give it a high score because it is still a slow-moving show. Too many of these scenes could have been cut out and CSI: NY needs to work on 44 minutes of quality, not 33. The opening scene with the slow-motion dancing went on for too long though. That is something that they tried to be new and different with, but let's chalk it up as a failure.moreless
  • Review. Spoilers.

    It was an interesting case.

    Mac tries to communicate with a woman beaten within an inch of her life before she is rushed to a hospital. She points at her son's photo identifying him as the attacker. It seems that everything is clear but in the end the team finds out that someone else is responsible. Very absorbing story with a twist.

    In this episode it's also revealed why Jo left the FBI. She discovered that her colleague destroyed a document detailing his mistake. She clearly doesn't completely trust anyone now, even Mac. Adam was great as a polygraph expert. His conversation with Owen was very amusing. Same as Flack's dialogue with Danny while he was in the sewer:)moreless
  • Mac and the team investigate a gruesome case in which a husband and wife are brutally beaten as they lay asleep in their bed and left for dead. The sole survivor of the attack, the wife, identifies the attacker to Mac: her own son.moreless

    "CSI: NY" has started the season on the right note. This episode worked on so many levels. It has a great and very compelling story. I found myself hooked from the very beginning. Sela Ward has done a nice job of settling into the show. Her idea to trick the Rikers Island prisoner into admitting that he lied to help a fellow prisoner is a high point of this episode. AJ Buckley deserves some credit too in that particular scene. The only problem I have is the old formula plot device in which the victim's son is accused. Great episode.moreless
  • 7x03 The old CSI NY has came back!!!

    after a very bad season (I mean season 6), I think that this one is oging to be great, I loved the last two episodes, for me, they have been very convincent.

    In this one I really could´t predict what was going to happen, the case was solved in a very interesting way, definitively this is one of the best cases in the last times, it reminds me those good episodes we saw in season two, three or four that in my opinion, were the best seasons of the show.

    I also loved the beginning scene, the use of PNL, mixing the party with the music and the crime scene, it was brilliant, I think I´m receiving a good season after two years because I didn´t like season 5 nor season 6, but this one looks like be great with episodes like these.

    P.D: I´m from venezuela, I´m not an expert writing in english, please forgive my mistakesmoreless
Sela Ward

Sela Ward

Josephine "Jo" Danville

Gary Sinise

Gary Sinise

Detective Mack "Mac" Taylor

Carmine Giovinazzo

Carmine Giovinazzo

Danny Messer

Anna Belknap

Anna Belknap

Lindsay Monroe

Robert Joy

Robert Joy

Dr. Sid Hammerback

A.J. Buckley

A.J. Buckley

Adam Ross

Chad Michael Collins

Chad Michael Collins

Officer Giles

Guest Star

Deji LaRay

Deji LaRay

Officer Campbell

Guest Star

Marco De La Cruz

Marco De La Cruz

Manny Ravarra

Guest Star

Trivia, Notes, Quotes and Allusions


  • TRIVIA (2)

    • Goof: When Paul Benson enters the Travers' room, he is drinking from a bottle that he tosses before committing the crime. However, the alcohol in the carpet that could contain Benson's DNA is not collected as evidence.

    • Jo left the FBI after uncovering the mistake made by a colleague when he destroyed a document detailing misinterpreted DNA results. As a consequence, Senator Matthews' daughter's rapist went free and he blames Jo for it.

  • QUOTES (37)

    • Mac: Mrs. Travers, did someone in your family do this to you?
      (She moves her finger up and down, meaning 'yes')
      Mac: (To an officer) Give me that picture over there. Right there. Come on. Come on. Mrs. Travers, I need you to listen very carefully (Pointing to Billy Travers) Is this the person who did this to you?
      (She moves her finger up and down, meaning 'yes')
      Mac: Is this your son? Did your son do this to you?
      (She moves her finger up and down, meaning 'yes')
      Mac: We got to find this kid right away.

    • (At the crime scene where a couple have been supposedly killed by their son)
      Danny: Remember what I said about having a son?
      Lindsay: Yeah.
      Danny: Never mind.

    • Hawkes: Be honest. If that was you who responded to the scene, would you have known to try to get an I.D. by asking her to move her finger up and down?
      (Lindsay shakes her head)
      Danny: Probably not. I guess that's why he's the boss, huh?

    • Lindsay: You want to take the front door or you want the bedroom?
      Hawkes: I'll leave the bedroom to you two.
      (Danny giggles)
      Lindsay: Thanks. Bed or floor?
      Danny: I'll take the floor.

    • (After her mother identified him as the one who attacked her and killed her husband)
      Billy Travers: I don't understand. Why would she do this to me?
      Jo: Do this to you? Maybe because you beat her within an inch of her life.
      Billy Travers: I wasn't even at the house. I haven't been home in over a month.

    • Jules Roday: He didn't do it. He doesn't have it in him to do something like this.
      Flack: Okay, Jules, I'm going to let you in on a little secret. Everyone has it in them to do something like this. Everyone.
      Jules Roday: No. Not Billy.
      Flack: How long have you been going out?
      Jules Roday: Five months.
      Flack: Five months? I usually like to wait at least six months before I can attest to somebody's lack of homicidal tendencies.
      Jules Roday: You're kind of a bitch, you know that?
      (Flack smiles)

    • Jo: So from about 8:00 to 11:00, I'm just supposed to take your word for it that you were in your room? And the only person who can account for your whereabouts earlier that day is your girlfriend (She starts writing down)
      Billy Travers: What are you doing?
      Jo: Math. Because you're not man enough to admit what you did. Now I gotta do Math. I hate Math. Half hour by train to get to your parents' place. 25 minutes to stand outside and build the courage to kill them. Another 40 minutes inside to do the deed and change your clothes. 15 minutes to puke and then find a place to ditch the bloody clothes. Another half hour to travel to your room (She sums up) Five... ten... carry one... two hours and 20 minutes, give or take. Plenty of time for you to commit the murder and get back to your room.

    • Sid: The human skull is composed of one of the most durable substances found in nature. It takes approximately one ton to reduce the diameter of the skull by one centimeter. Unfortunately for Walter Travers, when you get whacked in the head multiple times with a blunt-force object, that doesn't mean a whole lot.

    • Sid: You came from D.C., right?
      Jo: Yeah.
      Sid: It's an interesting town. I've only been there once to testify before congress.
      Jo: Oh, on behalf of the National Academy of Sciences?
      Sid: Oh, no, no. I was there to testify that they have no business restructuring the college bowl system. I never got past the door. But the town is... is quite... lovely.
      Jo: Okay.

    • Jo: Is the mother gonna make it?
      Mac: She's not conscious yet but the doctors say she'll pull through. It's nothing short of a miracle. I've never seen anyone take a beating like that and survive.
      Jo: I wonder if I'd even want to. How do you go through life knowing your kid killed his father and tried his best to kill you?

    • Jo: (About Billy Travers) I just hope he pleads guilty and doesn't make the mother take the stand and have to I.D. him again in court.

    • Flack: We're here about a homicide that was committed last night in Jamaica estates. Couple was bludgeoned to death.
      Danny: And we don't make you for it. In fact, we have an eyewitness who says it wasn't you.
      Manny Ravarra: All right.
      Danny: But your cell mate, he says you did it. Said you were bragging about it.
      Flack: But Owen Hicks is looking to get out from under a robbery charge that will most likely send him upstate for the next 15 years, so...
      Danny: Yeah, not the most reliable source. We figured we'd come here, lay our cards on the table, give you an opportunity to respond.
      Manny Ravarra: Let me see if I got this right. My crackhead cell mate gives me up for a murder that an eyewitness says was committed by someone else, and you two drop by here to give me the opportunity to say that I didn't do nothing? I got that right?
      Flack: What about it, Manny?
      Manny Ravarra: What about it? Sometimes crackheads actually tell the truth.
      Danny: So what are you saying?
      Manny Ravarra: I'm saying your eyewitness is wrong. I killed that couple.

    • Lindsay: (About Billy Travers) He was either extremely careful or we have to consider that he didn't do this.
      Mac: At the scene, I thought that might be the only chance to talk to her. When they said there was no forced entry, that prompted me to show her a photo of her family.
      Lindsay: And she was responsive, right?
      Mac: She was. She looked me in the eye and understood me. But maybe I pushed too hard in the moment.

    • Flack: (Sitting in the sidewalk) I can just picture Manny Ravarra, sitting the cafeteria with a stupid grin on his face, eating a bologna sandwich, gloating to the other inmates how two mope detectives are knee-deep in crap for absolutely no reason.
      Danny: (Coming out of the sewer) Actually, I only see one mope detective down here. You want to join me?
      Flack: I don't do sewers. It's like he said... he's doing life, he's got nothing to lose, so why not jerk us around?

    • Hawkes: You're gonna date the rust, huh? Pretty smart.
      Danny: I have my moments.

    • Hawkes: Looks like Manny Ravarra's playing you.
      Danny: Why would he want to go down for a murder he didn't commit?

    • Mac: Mrs. Travers, do you remember what happened last night?
      Grace Travers: No. I just remember waking up in this room.
      Mac: I realize this is hard, but can you tell me why your son would have done this?
      Grace Travers: Billy?
      Mac: Yes.
      Grace Travers: You think Billy did this to me?
      Mac: Last night, you identified your son. To me. I showed you a photograph and you indicated that he had done this.
      Grace Travers: No... no, I did no such thing. No, Billy didn't do this. He would never do anything to hurt me or his father.
      Mac: Mrs. Travers, I know you've been through a lot...
      Grace Travers: Who are you?
      Mac: My name is Mac Taylor.
      Grace Travers: Why did you come here? To tell me that my son did this to me? To tell me these lies?
      Mac: I don't want to upset you...
      Grace Travers: No, you listen to me! You leave Billy alone, do you understand me? He would never do this! Now, go! Get out! Leave my family alone!

    • (Sid is wired to a gadget that registers his cerebral activity and displays it in a graphic on a computer screen)
      Mac: What's with the pictures?
      Sid: A little experiment. Random photos of people I don't know mixed with one I do know. See? Very little activity. No emotional connection. Oh.
      Mac: Off the charts. So, what's the emotional connection there?
      Sid: Alimony.

    • Sid: Oftentimes, damage to the temporal lobe results in seizures and those seizures have a tendency to start in the hands.
      Mac: So it's possible the movement of her finger up and down was involuntary. You think I made a mistake showing her the photograph?
      Sid: Well, like you said, she was responsive and obeying commands. I hate to play devil's advocate here, Mac but a defense attorney would have a field day with that I.D. Bottom line, we don't have a picture of what happened in her brain when she moved her finger. So there's just no way to know if her I.D. is reliable.
      Mac: And now she's defending her son.

    • Danny: Ravarra come through the 116 last night around 2:00 A.M. Same time and precinct as Billy Travers.
      Jo: So Flack's going at Billy in the interrogation room and Manny's sitting in the bullpen being processed? Rookie cops.

    • Owen Hicks: (Notices Manny Navarra in another interrogation room) Yo, man, what's he doing here? You said that we were gonna sign some sort of cooperation agreement.
      Danny: Change of plans.

    • Adam: (Impersonating a polygraph examiner) I understand there's a question to the veracity of certain statements that you may or may not have made and or heard during your confinement in the fine institution known as Rikers island. Is that correct?
      Owen Hicks: I have no idea what the hell you just said, man.
      Adam: Are you playing games with me, son?
      Owen Hicks: No, I'm not playing games...!
      Adam: Because any heretofore games will not be tolerated. Okay?

    • (As they witness Owen Hicks at the polygraph)
      Jo: How long do you give him?
      Danny: Well, if Adam remembers to plug the damn thing in, I don't think he gets past the first question.
      Jo: First question? No way it gets that far.

    • Adam: (To Owen Hicks as he gets him ready for the polygraph) This simply measures your blood pressure while the test is being administered. The information then relays to the pen thingy which will go haywire if you're full of... if you're being untruthful. And, based on the amount of sweat that's accumulated on your forehead... gross... is more than likely.

    • Owen Hicks: Manny said that he had a girlfriend who lived in Queens, all right? And he never got to see her because it was too far from the prison that he was at upstate. So he said that if he confessed to the murder of the couple, that that would bring him downstate for the trial for at least a year. And then he'd be able to see her. He said to make it more believable he'd blab about it to me and then I would call the cops and maybe work out a deal for myself, all right? That's the truth!

    • Mac: Judge let Billy Travers out on bail. As of now, the mother's I.D. is all we have and I'm not even sure we have that.
      Jo: Should we offer her some kind of protection?
      Mac: She'll refuse. She's on her son's side now. So unless we come up with a forensic link, he'll be at her bedside by the end of the day.

    • Mac: If this is gonna work we got to trust each other. The DD-5 documenting Grace Travers recanting the I.D.... I saw you looking at it. Damaging to the case... you thought maybe I wouldn't file it?
      Jo: History has a tendency of repeating itself.
      Mac: What happened in D.C. is not a part of my history.

    • Mac: Uncovering mistakes made by your lab and alerting defense counsel was part of your oath. Still is.
      Jo: Tell that to Senator Matthews. I still get letters from him blaming me for the outcome of his daughter's case. The mistake I uncovered was made by a guy named Frank Waters. Impeccable reputation. I worked with Frank Waters for 12 years, Mac. I went to his wedding, his kids' birthdays. So when I discovered he destroyed a document detailing a mistake he made interpreting DNA results, trust became just another word and Serena Matthews' rapist went free.
      Mac: You had to make it public.
      Jo: It was a decision I don't regret making and I'd make it again.
      Mac: Jo, my team does not sacrifice integrity for a desired result. Now that you're part of it, I promise you you'll never have to make that kind of decision again, okay?

    • Jo: (About glassphemy) It's an art installation where people get out their aggression by hurling bottles into a glass cage and the company collects the shards and recycles them. I might need to try that.

    • (About Paul Benson)
      Flack: I don't get it. This guy was the senior class president, captain of the soccer team, Dean's list. This kid had everything going for him back in 2002. He was the guy you love to hate in every John Hughes film.
      Danny: He was even dating the prom queen, Sarah Dufresne.
      Flack: Apparently dating her wasn't enough (Reads from Benson's file) 'I told him I wanted to wait, that if he loved me, he would respect that I wanted to wait. He grabbed my arms and pinned me down.' One minute he's Harvard bound, next he's Rikers bound.

    • Steven Benson: (About testifying against his son in a rape case) Not a day goes by we don't second-guess our decision. Paul's our son.
      Jo: If you'd kept silent, you wouldn't have been able to live with yourselves.

    • Steven Benson: It took a few weeks and several fights but we decided that telling the truth was the right thing to do.
      Jo: It was. No matter how much it may have hurt. So you had no contact with Paul after that?
      Steven Benson: We tried but Paul didn't want anything to do with us. He felt that we'd betrayed him so he just cut us off.
      Nina Benson: We moved a couple years later. Tried to put it behind us.
      Jo: Paul was digging by the side of the house for the spare key. But the locks had been changed and he used a crowbar to get inside. He thought it was you in that bed. Paul went back to the house to kill you.

    • Mac: What were you thinking, Paul? You were getting even? That killing your parents was somehow gonna settle the score for them testifying against you?
      Paul Benson: I was just a kid.
      Mac: You were 18 years old. You were old enough to be held accountable for your actions.
      Paul Benson: They betrayed me.
      Mac: No, no. You betrayed them. You think it was easy for your parents to do what they did? Your girlfriend, Sarah... they were just supposed to let her go through life knowing you raped her and got away with it?

    • Paul Benson: The woman who went to the hospital... she survived? She's gonna be okay?
      Mac: No. She lost her husband, her son lost his father and she's gonna have permanent brain damage. So, no, she's not gonna be okay. You had an opportunity to get out and make something of your life, Paul. Instead, you destroyed another family.

    • Mac: I'm sorry you had to go through that, Billy.
      Billy Travers: Yeah. I get it. You were just doing your job, I guess.
      Mac: You know, sometimes we lose sight of how hard it is to be called a suspect.

    • Grace Travers: Billy. Who's this?
      Mac: My name is Mac Taylor.
      Grace Travers: Have you met my son Billy?
      Mac: I have. You have a good son, Mrs. Travers. You're a very lucky woman.

    • Jo: (Singing and smiling widely): Aaa-dam...
      Adam: What did I do?

  • NOTES (3)

    • Stacy Edwards, who plays Grace Travers, also appears in episode 1x13 Tanglewood and in the C.S.I. one Feeling The Heat.

      Taylor Handley, who plays Billy Travers, also appears in the C.S.I. episode Let The Seller Beware and in the CSI: Miami one Born To Kill.

      Alex Solowitz, who plays Owen Hicks, also appears in the C.S.I. episode Let It Bleed and in the CSI: Miami one Resurrection.

      Crystal Reed, who plays Jules Roday, also appears in the C.S.I. episode Lost&Found.

      Chad Michael Collins, who plays Officer Giles, also appears in the CSI: Miami episode Caged.

    • Music Featured:
      A Drowning by How To Destroy Angels (The first song when they're in the bedroom examining the sheets.)
      In The Air Tonight (Ben Liebrand Version) by Phil Collins (Beginning of the episode).
      Paradise Circus by Massive Attack (Collecting evidence from the bedroom).
      Tell Me You Love It (Acid Crunk Mix) by Aquasky (Billy Travers is arrested for murder).
      Falling Apart by Trouble Andrew.

    • Original International Air Dates:
      Canada: October 8, 2010 on CTV.
      Norway: December 1, 2010 on TVNorge.
      Turkey: January 17, 2011 on CNBC-e.
      United Kingdom: January 22, 2011 on Five/Five HD.
      Sweden: January 31, 2011 on Kanal 5.
      Spain: March 15, 2011 on AXN.
      Czech Republic: March 16, 2011 on AXN.
      Slovakia: September 20, 2011 on JOJ.
      Germany: October 10, 2011 on Vox.
      Finland: April 4, 2012 on MTV3.


    • Jules Roday: Billy wanted to get a gray jacket exactly like the one Tom cruise had in the movie.

      This is an allusion to the 1983 Paul Brickman's Risky Business, starring Tom Cruise and Rebecca De Mornay.

    • Flack: He was the guy you love to hate in every John Hughes film.

      John Wilden Hughes, Jr (1950-2009) was one of the most successful American film makers from the 1980's and early 1990's.

    • Manny Ravarra: Can I go now? I'm missing Oprah.

      The Oprah Winfrey Show is an American talk show hosted and produced by Oprah Winfrey and is the highest-rated talk show in American television history.