CSI: NY

Season 4 Episode 17

Like Water for Murder

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Aired Friday 9:00 PM Apr 16, 2008 on CBS

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  • Trivia

    • Why would the killer's fourth victim be a customer of the real estate agent, rather than the agent herself? Not only is this very coincidental, it is a serious change of M.O.

    • It sounds highly unlikely for the girl and the boy who are running in the beach at the beginning not to have seen the shark and the vic laying on the shore a few metres away from them. They've been facing them for a while but only realize about them after he trips.

    • Goof: Mac pushes barehanded the door of the house that is for sale. He should have tried to avoid removing prints even more when suspecting that someone might have broken in.

    • Stella likes Margaritas like Quinn, and she has been looking for a new condo to buy, which she seems to have done by now.

    • Goof: The actress who performs Louise Perry, victim #2, keeps blinking all the time while laying on the beach.

    • Goof: Eddie Cahill's stunt has way longer hair than him as it can be appreciated in 28:35 when he tackles Charles Kohl to the ground.

    • Mac is very strict about the protocol and procedures. However he was more concerned about Lindsay than about the fact that she left evidence unattended. Her carelessness should have been more stressed.

    • Goof: When the first victim's body is on the autopsy table, you can see her breathing.

    • Goof: The 'passenger rights' sticker shows only scratchmarks that go from top to bottom. To get almost complete words under your fingernails you would have to scratch from side to side.

    • Reed worked at the city desk for New York Weekly and now he works for New York 24/7 news.

    • Quinn specializes in this field of microscopy in her lab in New Jersey. Microscopy is the use of different microscopes to allow some one to view objects or samples better. The three branches of microscopy are optical, electron, and scanning probe microscopy.

    • Inspector Shelby and Mac exchanged a kiss while Mac was married. They never pursued it further; for Mac it was a mistake made in a moment of weakness, although it left her wondering. Actually, Quinn admits to Mac that still has a thing for him.

    • Inspector Quinn applied for the same job Mac has.

  • Quotes

    • Mac: Our killer's a cab driver. Any New Yorker could be his next victim.

    • (About the kiss they shared in the past)
      Mac: Quinn, no matter how good they are, some memories need to be forgotten.
      Quinn Shelby: I get it.

    • Quinn Shelby: I still have a thing for you. Why didn't you ever call me?
      Mac: Quinn, I was married.
      Quinn Shelby: It was just a kiss, Mac. I know... a moment of weakness.
      Mac: It was a mistake. I loved my wife.
      Quinn Shelby: Don't I know it? Every day I worked alongside you, you never let me forget that.
      Mac: It wasn't my intention to make things difficult.
      Quinn Shelby: You know, I've thought about this moment so many times, about what I would say to you when I finally got the chance. And here I am, and all I keep thinking is... does he ever wonder "what if?"

    • (Mac confronts Lindsay about having left evidence unattended)
      Mac: You were in the lab with Danny. Inspector Shelby...
      Lindsay: Oh, but Danny was right there. I mean, I'm sure that he put it away. (She makes a brief pause) Oh, that's a bad excuse. Mac, I... I'm sorry. I know it's my responsibility. I know we're talking about evidence that could convict somebody of murder...
      Mac: Lindsay, to tell you the truth I'm more concerned about you.
      Lindsay: I'm okay, Mac.
      Mac: You put up a good front, but whatever is or is not going on between you and Danny, you cannot let it affect your job.
      Lindsay: I should never have gotten involved with somebody I work with. It was stupid, really stupid.

    • Quinn Shelby: I'd say you've got a tough job ahead of you, Mac. You're hunting a land shark.

    • Sid: I've often said we don't get enough guests down here in Autopsy, although there's been quite a few people by to see the shark. I've still got it on ice if you...
      Mac: Sid, Inspector Shelby is here to document the chain of evidence.
      Quinn Shelby: Thanks, Doctor. Maybe later.

    • (Reed acuses Mac of going to another paper with the story)
      Reed: If they have information about this, that means you must have known. I trusted you.
      Mac: Look, you shouldn't have promised something you couldn't deliver.
      Reed: This is my career we're talking about.
      Mac: Reed... your expectations of our relationship do not and will never dictate when or with whom I reveal evidence in a murder case. Is that clear?
      Reed: Yes.

    • Mac: (To Reed) You remind me of your mother. When Claire wanted something, she went after it. She wouldn't let go till she got it.

    • Quinn Shelby: Detectives Messer and Monroe. They're obviously a little more than just co-workers.
      Mac: I don't get involved in my team's personal lives.
      Quinn Shelby: Mac, I'm just giving you a heads-up. As a result of what was obviously a personal exchange between Monroe and Messer, Monroe got distracted and left her evidence out, unattended. We can all try and compartmentalize, but nobody can help the fact that sometimes life gets in the way. And when things get messy, mistakes are made. And I believe I'm quoting you on that one.
      Mac: Point taken. Got your message.

    • Flack: I hear you have an inspector in house.
      Stella: Yeah, I think at some point she worked with Mac. They were both up for his job.
      Flack: He doesn't mind her looking over his shoulder?
      Stella: Actually it's weird, he seems to be fine with it.
      Flack: Is she pretty? This inspector?
      (Stella gives him a look)
      Flack: (smirking) I'm just sayin'.

    • (After Danny and Lindsay quoted Jaws)
      Danny: We should rent it sometime. (He looks at Lindsay and she stops what she's doing and stares at him.)
      Lindsay: This is hard. (Lindsay takes off her gloves and leaves the room, Danny watches her go.)

    • Flack: What kind of shark strangles his meal before he takes a bite?

    • Charles Kohl: (holding out a box of Damiana chocolates) You sure, you won't want a sample?
      Stella: Hm, I was taught never to take candy from strangers.

    • Hawkes: Could this be two failed attempts at suicide? Poison, a hanging, and finally she jumped?
      Mac: Or, one failed attempt at murder. After the poison didn't work, she was strangled then dumped.
      Sid: And then there's the poor shark. (Hawkes and Mac look at him) Well, if you see it from his point of view, he's noshing on the finest prime rib he's had in months, and dies of food poisoning? There's a chance she killed him!

    • Quinn Shelby: Don't worry, Mac, I'll stay out of the way and quietly observe.
      (Mac laughs)
      Quinn Shelby: What's so funny?
      Mac: I've never known you to do anything quietly... and staying out of the way? It's not your style.

    • Stella: (after taking out a suspect that Flack had been chasing who had offered her a chocolate sample earlier) How's that for a sample, huh?

    • Danny: (In response to the auditor looking over their shoulders during the case) I feel like I'm in detention or something.

  • Notes

    • Original International Air dates:
      UK: May 3, 2008 on Ch5.
      Denmark: May 26, 2008 on Kanal 5.
      Australia: July 20, 2008 on Network 9.
      Turkey: June 23, 2008 on CNBC-e.
      Spain: June 24, 2008 on AXN.
      Sweden: August 11, 2008 on Kanal 5.
      New Zealand: August 12, 2008 on TV3.
      Czech Republic: September 30, 2008 on AXN.
      Norway: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 on TVNorge.
      Germany: Monday, January 12, 2009 on VOX.
      Finland: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 on MTV3.

    • Music Featured:
      Down By The Water by PJ Harvey.
      Fashion by Airship Rocketship.

  • Allusions

    • Hawkes: I identified the additional trace in Chrissy Watson's lacerations: sycamore and ash, rich in copper, zinc and silicon. Those last components were major players in the ash from September 11. And there was a story in the paper a couple days later about a sycamore tree that fell on some church. The branches actually protected the structure from the debris.

      It is later stated that the church is St. Angelo's Church. However, it was St. Paul's Chapel the one saved by the sycamore tree.

    • The method of the Taxi Murderer is similar to that of the killer in The Bone Collector (1999). In that movie, the killer kidnaps some of his victims by pretending to be a taxicab driver and powerlocking the back doors, trapping them inside.

    • In addition to the other quotes mentioned, there were several other name references to Jaws (1975): Chrissy Watson, one of the Taxi Murderer's victims, is similar in name to Chrissy Watkins, the first victim in the movie. The evaluator's name Quinn Shelby is a variation on the Quint character in Jaws. Lastly, Matt Cooper is a play on the Matt Hooper character.

    • Hawkes: I was never that good at Wheel Of Fortune.
      Danny: It's real easy, doc, you just got to keep buying the vowels.

      Wheel of Fortune is a game show based on hangman where letters are put in the right place to form a word.

    • Flack: Hey Project Runway, who did your dress?

      This is a reference to the reality show, Project Runway, which airs on the Bravo network. This show is a fashion design competition hosted by Heidi Klum.

    • Mac: (looking at the crime scene on the beach) Shark attack victim. Sounds like a job for Chief Brody and the Coast Guard, not my forensics team.

      Hawkes: Okay, so that's what killed Jaws.

      These are some of the many allusions to the movie Jaws in this episode. Mac refers to Police chief Martin Brody played by Roy Scheider, and Hawkes refers to the shark as Jaws.

    • Hawkes: Could this be two failed attempts at suicide? Poison, a hanging, and finally she jumped?

      Reference to the urban legend about Jacques LeFevrier's suicide attempt. He tried to hang, poison, burn and shoot himself at the same time and failed, but later died of hypothermia.

    • Hawkes: Who found him?
      Flack: The Abercrombie twins over there.

      Flack is talking about Ambercrombie & Fitch which is a clothing store founded in 1892.

    • Danny & Lindsay: Ten thousand dollars for me by myself. For that you get the head, the tail, the whole damn thing.

      This is a quote from Jaws (1975), a movie about a great white shark that terrorized the New England town of Amity.

    • Mac: This is psychological. You yell murder in this city, people don't even blink. Yell serial killer, we've got a panic on our hands.

      Mac paraphrases a line from the movie Jaws:

      Mayor Vaughn: Martin, it's all psychological. You yell barracuda, everybody says, "Huh? What?" You yell shark, we've got a panic on our hands on the Fourth of July.

    • Flack: Chocolate factory aside, Charlie is lying!

      Flack is referring to the children's book Charlie and the Chocolate factory, by Roald Dahl, which was made into a movie in 1971 starring Gene Wilder and in 2005 starring Johnny Depp: Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

    • Episode title: Like Water for Murder.

      It's an allusion to the book Like Water for Chocolat by Laura Esquivel. The book is about Tita De la Garza, a young Mexican woman whose family's kitchen becomes her world after her mother forbids her to marry the man she loves.

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