Dawson's Creek

Season 5 Episode 8

Hotel New Hampshire

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Aired Tuesday 9:00 PM Nov 28, 2001 on The WB
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Hotel New Hampshire
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Dawson takes Jen on a road trip to a small film festival in New Hampshire where his documentary is being honored. The spotlight is intoxicating for both of them as they share one of the single most momentous events in a boy's life.

Meanwhile, Jack brings Joey and Audrey to a frat party under false pretenses; and Pacey takes Karen on a non-romantic date.

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  • Dawson brings Jen to a film festival in New Hampshire. Jack invites Joey and Audrey to Frat Party. Pacey takes Karen on a date.

    8.5
    A lot of awesome stuff happens in this episode of Dawson's Creek. Dawson brings Jen to a film festival in New Hampshire. I am so glad that Dawson is happy for once. And that guy named Oliver is funny. Dawson and Jen sleep together. Dawson is finally not a virgin. Anyways it seems like they are going out with is good because I loved it when Dawson and Jen went out in season 1. Jack's Frat is having a party and they want Jack to bring Joey and Audrey. Jack was a real jerk in this episode. But I do love the conversation he had with Joey at the end of the episode. It seems that he realizes he's jerk and hopefully he stops acting all jerkish in episodes to come. Pacey takes Karen out on a date. Then he sleeps with Karen. Then Karen quit her job, and Pacey quit his job, and now Karen is leaving, and she wants Pacey to keep his job. I really wanted Pacey and Karen to be a couple, but since she's gone, that can't happen. Oh, well. I give this episode a 8.5/10.moreless
  • I really enjoyed this episode because

    9.1
    I really enjoyed this episode because it proved to me that I really wanted Jen and Dawson to be together. They were a great couple together and its a pity they didnt end up together. However in this episode they finally sleep together and become a couple again, at least for a little while.
  • Jack sets up Audrey for one of his frat brother, Pacey and Karen go to dinner and Jen, hurt when she learns that Charlie has been trying to make up with Nora instead of her, accompanies Dawson to a New Hampshire film festival.moreless

    9.5
    I rate this episode higher than the community because I have always thought that Dawson and Jen made a great couple. This opinion conflicts with a natural desire to see Joey and Dawson together. That can never be because this is a series. unlike a feature, a series needs the conflict of unrequited love to maintain the drama. If Dawson and Joey ever got together for longer than an instant the series would die.



    The option of Jen turns of many people because of Jen’s history of promiscuous behavior and self-destructive relationships. For many people Jen will always be “the slut” and not good enough for Dawson. On the other hand Jen is due for some good fortune. Other that the season four romance with Henry, Jen’s only long-term love is Jack. With Dawson she can find love with a “nice” guy who will treat her right.



    But why, with her history, does she deserve Dawson? We learned in the first season that Jen had sex at thirteen with an older guy. She combined drugs and drinking until at fifteen her father found her having sex in his bed and she was sent to Capeside to live with her grandmother.



    It is not until season four in “Eastern Standard Time” we learn that thirteen-year-old Jen walked in on her father having sex with a young friend of Jen’s and she ran away into the city, sleeping first in a parking lot then the backroom of a club and finally with a guy she met in his dorm room. With that understanding we see that Jen is more a victim than a rebellious “wild child”.



    When they are thrown together in Hotel New Hampshire Dawson is emotionally hurting from the guilt he feels for his father’s death and he is unable to be comfortable around Joey. Jen is still hurt from her affair with Charlie.



    Dawson sees Jen as a good friend who he assumes is not physically attracted to him. When nature takes its course Dawson and Jen find they have both a physical and emotional need for each other and when they return to Boston, unsure how to tell their friends that they are a couple, they know that they want to stay together.



    Fans of the series who dislike Dawson and Jen may be the same people who are suffering angst over Katie Holmes being with Tom Cruise. They see Katie as an idealized Joey who they forgive for her adventures but they want to reserve Dawson for her to come back to when her voyages of discovery conclude.

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James Van Der Beek

James Van Der Beek

Dawson Leery

Katie Holmes

Katie Holmes

Josephine "Joey" Potter

Michelle Williams

Michelle Williams

Jennifer "Jen" Lindley

Joshua Jackson

Joshua Jackson

Pacey J. Witter

Kerr Smith

Kerr Smith

Jack McPhee (recurring Season 2)

Mary Beth Peil

Mary Beth Peil

Evelyn "Grams" Ryan

Lourdes Benedicto

Lourdes Benedicto

Karen Torres

Guest Star

Pauley Perrette

Pauley Perrette

Dr. Rachel Weir

Guest Star

Andrea Pearson

Andrea Pearson

Nora

Guest Star

Busy Philipps

Busy Philipps

Audrey Liddell

Recurring Role

Lourdes Benedicto

Lourdes Benedicto

Karen Torres

Recurring Role

Ian Kahn

Ian Kahn

Danny Brecher

Recurring Role

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  • TRIVIA (2)

    • Goof: When Pacey pulls off his lobster bib and the shot changes to over his shoulder, the bib is still on. Next front shot, the bib is gone.

    • Famous Firsts: Finally, after five long years, one of television's most famous virgins, Dawson Leery, loses his virginity to Jen.

  • QUOTES (41)

    • Charlie: Man, you have managed to land two of the most high maintenance women I have ever met. How did you do it?
      Pacey: High maintenance is just another way of saying high quality.

    • Jen: I wish we didn't have to leave here.
      Dawson: So we stay.
      Jen: Stay?
      Dawson: Yeah. (He dumps his bag out onto the floor) We stay. At least a couple of days. After all, this is the honeymoon suite, right?
      Jen: And I am your girlfriend.

    • (To Pacey)
      Karen: Stick with Brecher, Pacey. He's not such a bad guy. He's got a soft spot for ya. Besides... you're good in there.

    • Karen: Nobody can save you from yourself.

    • (To Pacey)
      Karen: Last night was just as much my fault as it was yours. For what it's worth, I don't regret it, not a single second.

    • Joey: You know, Jack. You grow up in this small town, you know? Thinking you have the most open mind and you're ready for anything. And then you finally hit the big city and, suddenly, there are still so many surprises, like, no matter how open you thought your mind was, there's still so much to learn in sometimes places you never would have even thought.
      Jack: Yeah.
      Joey: If a fraternity is what you need, we need to learn to accept that. I need to learn to be less extreme about it.

    • Jack: Joey, hmm... there really isn't much I can say to defend the way that I acted last night. It just... it's really hard sometimes, you know? Balancing things out, meeting new friends, trying to bring them together with the... with the old. I don't know.
      Joey: It probably doesn't help when the old friends are quick to judge something they... know nothing about.

    • (To Jack)
      Audrey: The next time you set me up, it better be with someone secure enough with girls not to resort to, like, muscle and fitness talk.

    • (To Pacey)
      Danny: I'm sorry that your image of me has been shattered. I never said I was perfect. That's the way things are sometimes.

    • Pacey: I still quit.
      Danny: Fine. That's cool. Karen already beat you to it.

    • (After having had sex for the first time)
      Jen: Look at you smiling.
      Dawson: So that's what everyone's talking about.
      Jen: That's it.
      Dawson: Hmm... it wasn't... what I imagined.
      Jen: It's not?
      Dawson: No. Everyone always told me your first time is never as good as you'd imagine it to be. That was... every bit the fantasy.

    • Dawson: I think I'm fully aware of the reason it didn't work out between us.
      Jen: Why?
      Dawson: You were never physically attracted to me.
      Jen: Is that what you think?
      Dawson: Yeah. I think you thought that I was safe.
      Jen: Yeah.

    • Dawson: You've somehow managed to figure out a way to be there for me. And that... uh... I'll never be able to put into words what that means to me.
      Jen: Listen. I... it's the least I can do for the guy who restores my faith in the opposite sex.
      Dawson: (Laughs) I do that?
      Jen: Yes, you do do that.
      Dawson: Wow. How do I do that?
      Jen: Because... eh, um... no. When it didn't work out between us all those years ago, um... you still have managed to give me a place in your heart.

    • Dawson: For the first time, I was finally able to appreciate what a great father he was and how lucky I was to have known him without feeling guilty. Without feeling like I let him down. I don't wanna jinx anything, but... I dare say I'm happy.

    • (To Joey)
      Jack: You know what? Every time something doesn't meet your standard of righteousness, you write it off like it's the worst thing on Earth.

    • Jack: I feel at home here. For once, I have a family that's not constantly on the brink of self-destruction. I mean, with these guys, I can finally live my life instead of constantly worrying about someone else's.
      Joey: Really? Because it feels to me like you're hiding, Jack, like you're pushing us and yourself away, because maybe it's just easier to be another one of the meatheads.

    • Joey: It's like you just couldn't wait for the moment we got to Boston so you could drop us and get new friends.

    • Joey: How do you get off talking about Audrey like that?
      Jack: You yourself used to talk about her like that. It was just stupid, harmless fun. That's it.
      Joey: I can't believe you just said that. Jack, what happened to you? When did you turn into this jerk?

    • Jen: You're lucky to have me.
      Dawson: That's an understatement if I ever heard one.

    • Oliver: I go to school in Boston. This really weird Visual Arts place full of freaks and misfits. And you know, it might suit you. Yeah, you should, uh, come check it out sometime.
      Dawson: Definitely. Thank you. I might.

    • Oliver: You know, you're really pissing me off, Leery. I mean, I used to take pride in thinking that I was the only geek in America that knew who A.I. Brooks was. Seriously though, man, your flick is fantastic. I'm blown away.
      Dawson: Thank you.

    • Pacey: Did you sleep with me to get back at Brecher? You did, didn't you?
      Karen: It's not that simple.
      Pacey: No, it is that simple.

    • Jack: The last thing Audrey is is a prude. I don't know what you're so worried about, man. I mean, Audrey's easy.

    • Eric: Hey! Mcphee! I'm beginning to think you lied to me, man.
      Jack: What are you talking about?
      Eric: Audrey. This chick, she's all tease and no please.
      Jack: Come on. It's only halfway through the night. I mean, give her some time. She'll come around.

    • Pacey: Karen Torres, you are a beautiful young woman with fantastic taste in clothing, and although your jokes do tend to bomb, you make up for it with that sparkling smile of yours.

    • Oliver: Hi. You're really pretty.
      Jen: Who's gonna argue?

    • Jen: Would you please stop putting yourself down? Or I'll have to break up with you.
      Dawson: You can't break up with me. You'll never break up with me. The physical attraction is far too strong.
      Jen: You got me there, tiger.

    • (To Karen)
      Pacey: I know you don't like hearing this, Karen, but you do deserve better than being Brecher's illicit affair. A woman who is as giving and as beautiful as yourself deserves someone who's gonna be there loving you back just as hard.

    • Pacey: Tonight I have kept us in very crowded places because I wouldn't want you to be tempted to jump me on our non-date evening.
      Karen: Well, I mean, you are wearing that really sexy outfit. Damn. Who would have thought you'd clean up so good?

    • Joey: You know, Jen should be sharing in this pain right now. I should call her.
      Jack: No, can't do that. She's gone for the weekend with Dawson.

    • Joey: I really don't know what the big deal is. I mean as much as I want to give Jack credit, I'm sure it's just another night of frat debauchery masquerading as an event.
      Audrey: Ok, killjoy. First off, Jack said this Eric guy is hella'cute, which right off, sounds pretty interesting to me. And secondly, for someone as progressive as you, it's amazing how closed-minded you are about frats.
      Joey: The words "progressive" and "frat" do not belong together in the same sentence.

    • Jen: This is supposed to be the other way around. I'm supposed to be consoling you, you know?
      Dawson: No, please. It's the least I can do. And believe it or not, it's helping me. A lot.

    • Dawson: Jen, there's nothing wrong with you.
      Jen: (About Charlie) It's just... all this time, I thought he was cheating on us on equal ground, you know? But, no, she got to be the girlfriend and I was just the... floozie.

    • Nora: I know I should be puking at the mere mention of Charlie's name, but I find myself daydreaming about him. His latest attempt to won us back with that whole "I've changed" pitch.
      Jen: Uh, wait. Which "I've changed" pitch?
      Nora: You know, all those corny love letters he keeps sending. Doesn't it seem sometimes, you know, in that moment you crawl into bed alone, like, "Hey, maybe he really did change"?
      Jen: Gosh. I don't know which love letters you mean.

    • Dawson: It's all my friends. It's like, they... it's been 2 months, and everybody's still... they're holding things back from me, like they're trying to protect me. I mean, they look at me like this... as this... fragile, breakable thing instead of just Dawson, the person. And I know they mean well. It's just... it makes it virtually impossible to move on.

    • Pacey: I'm here to ask you out, Karen.
      Karen: I can't go on a date with you, Pacey.
      Pacey: Ok, that's fine. Then you don't really have to think of it as a date so much. You can think of it as an opportunity to compare and contrast. A free trial run of a life without heartache.

    • (To Dawson)
      Pacey: You're talking to the king of directionless himself. What do you think I was doing with all those years of high school folly? I was perfecting the life without purpose.

    • Dawson: I can't figure out what the hell to do with myself.
      Pacey: And you're definitely not gonna go back to USC, Huh?
      Dawson: No, and that I know is a right decision. But unfortunately, it's about all I know.

    • (Jen crying to Dawson about Charlie)
      Jen: I want corny love letters. I just don't understand why he chose her and not me. Is there something wrong with me?

    • Jen: I just feel awkward and there's too much at stake for me to just let it slide.
      Dawson: What do you mean?
      Jen: I don't know. Part of me wishes that last night could just be, um, a beautiful memory and the other part of me knows that sex changes everything and I just don't want to loose our friendship.
      Dawson: Ok. You're not going to loose my friendship. I promise. Ok and yes, sex does change things, but who says it has to be for the worst?
      Jen: What does that mean?
      Dawson: I don't know. I don't know. If I told you I knew where this was leading I'd be lying to you, because I don't. All I know is, it happened last night and it felt right. And if sex changes things, I say bring it on. I'm ready to explore that.
      Jen: Ok, I'm in.

    • Joey: Hey Jen, um, speaking of the men in our lives, how's Dawson these days?
      Jen: You're asking me?
      Joey: Well it's... you know? I haven't seen him for a while and I know you two hang out. Guess I just needed to know that he's doing alright.
      Jen: He's better. He, um... he's been seeing a shrink, which I think is really good for him, you know? He's going to be fine.
      Joey: That's exactly what I needed to hear. It's been, um... it's been kind of hard getting use to not being the one to see him through this, you know. I think I'm finally ok with it, which it's even harder to admit without feeling like a total jerk.
      Jen: Oh, Joey stop it. You're not a jerk.
      Joey: Well, I've been meaning to tell you that I can't think of a better person to be there for him than you. I'm really glad that you're there for him.

  • NOTES (3)

    • Dawson meets a film-maker named "Oliver Chirchick". It sounds more than coincidental that, according to the end credits, there is a crew member on Dawson's Creek with the name Alissa Chirchick, Production Secretary. Apparently this is an inside joke, used as 'Easter Eggs' by naming characters after crew members.

    • Music featured in the episode included:
      Ride by Liz Phair
      Thinking Amelia by Deb Talan
      Four Leaf Clover by Abra Moore
      Every Reason by Smalltown Poets
      Jello by Arlibido
      The Moon And The Sun by Heidi Berry
      12th & Middle by Brandtson
      Stay A While by The Underwolves

    • Guest star Jordan Bridges (Oliver Chirchick) has a famous family that includes his father Beau Bridges, uncle Jeff Bridges and grandfather Lloyd Bridges.

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