Dawson's Creek

Season 6 Episode 2

The Song Remains the Same (2)

Aired Tuesday 9:00 PM Oct 02, 2002 on The WB



  • Trivia

    • Audrey has obviously remembered Joey's birthday with some anticipation since she got her present over the summer holidays at Fred Segal, whose shops are located just in California.

    • Goof: When Joey and Dawson are arguing about their relationship, Joey says that Dawson bought the champagne, referring to their romantic time on the movie set earlier that evening. However, it was made clear at that moment that the champagne came out of a gift basket that was given to the director of the movie and that Dawson simply stole.

    • When Dawson and Joey are arguing in her room after everyone else has left Joey's surprise birthday party, the shadow of the boom mic operator can be seen on the wall just behind Joey, to the left, moving in and out of the shot. Also some recording equipment is shown in shadow as well.

    • Michelle Williams' lower back tattoo can briefly be seen when she stands up to leave after Jen's conversation with C.J. at Boston Bay University.

    • When Eddie and Joey are cleaning up in Hell's Kitchen the song As I Lay Me Down by Sophie B. Hawkins comes on the jukebox. Joey comments that she hates this song, but earlier when she is dreaming about Dawson and her in bed, this song is playing.

      She also told Dawson in The kids are alright that the song reminded her of him.

    • This episode marks Jensen Ackles' first episode as C.J., Jen's boyfriend during the 6th season. He is the last of Jen's boyfriends to move on to his own television show after leaving Dawson's Creek.

      Jensen Ackles moves on to Supernatural, Scott Foley moved on to Felicity, Jason Behr moved onto Roswell, and Chad Michael Murray moved onto One Tree Hill.

    • Goof: In the beginning of this episode the camera scans the clothes on the floor before moving to the bed. When it scans Dawson's jeans you can clearly see Joey's bra on the floor. But the night before Joey was in her pajamas. So where did the bra come from?

  • Quotes

    • Dawson: We can analyze this to death later.

    • (About Dawson and Joey)
      Audrey: They do this all the time, right? No big whoop. I mean, it's normal to fight. It's healthy.
      Pacey: Ooh, I don't know if healthy's the word I would use to describe their relationship.

    • (To Dawson)
      Joey: You have a girlfriend?! I slept with you last night, and you have a girlfriend?

    • Dawson: Time's the enemy, right? Our enemy?
      Joey: Mmm, you're not planning on turning into a pumpkin at midnight?
      Dawson: No, but I am leaving tomorrow.
      Joey: And then what?
      Dawson: And then I come back.
      Joey: Back to what, exactly?
      Dawson: To us.

    • (About Emma)
      Pacey: That girl hates me!
      Audrey: I know. She hates you too much. I don't trust it!

    • Pacey: (To Emma) When you stop and think about this, you're going to realize that the benefits to living with the two of us far outweigh the disadvantages. So let's just think about it for one second, shall we? How is it that 2 schlubs like us can afford to live in a place like this, because the neighborhood is not that great, am I right? I am right, so you gotta give me that one, right? Living with 2 guys, it's like having free security. Secondly, I am a fantastic cook, and I will cook you anything, anytime, anywhere, but the piece de resistance, and we discussed this last night, I am a thoroughly monogamous, domesticated, American male with a girlfriend, a steady girlfriend.

    • Jen: I made myself this promise over the summer.
      C.J.: What was that?
      Jen: That, no matter what, I would really do things differently this year, like try to make new friends and stuff, and I can't do that by pretending to be somebody that I'm not, because then those friends that I make would think that I'm something that I'm not.

    • (Jen shows up at C.J.'s counseling center)
      Woman: Ok, so, as I was saying, most of what we do around here is simply information and referrals. And 99 times out of 100 just reminding someone to take a deep breath... and to keep on breathing is enough. Tomorrow will be another day, for you, too. Which brings me to our number one rule around here: Never be afraid to ask for a hug at the end of a tough day.
      (Jen leaves)

    • Pacey: (About Audrey) You're not even gonna let the woman speak her mind?
      Emma: Well, the fact that she's with you raises serious doubts as to whether she has one.

    • Audrey: I'm here about the apartment.
      Emma: I remember you. For yourself?
      Audrey: In a way, yes.
      Emma: (Referring to Pacey and Jack) In a way that involves you living here and me never having to see either of these 2 wastrels again for the rest of my natural-born life?
      Audrey: Not exactly, no.

    • Todd: You've giving me the bum's rush out of here, aren't you? Is that so you can take the night off and go frolicking with that bird?
      Dawson: Something like that.

    • Dawson: Joey goes to Worthington.
      Todd: What's that, like a college or something?
      Joey: Yeah.
      Todd: Never heard of it.

    • (Todd meets Joey)
      Todd: Leery's got a bird.
      Dawson: Oh, boy.

    • (At the set of Dawson's movie)
      Joey: Isn't your mom gonna freak when she sees your house in a horror movie?
      Dawson: He,he. It probably won't be too good for property values, but you got to admit it's kind of cool.

    • Jen: (To C.J.) That's what everybody says. 'Oh, you live with your grandma. That's so sweet.' How do they know I don't beat her with a stick and leave her tied to the radiator all winter?

    • Audrey: If she doesn't want to live with guys, she doesn't want to live with guys. Who can blame her? Who wants to deal with all those little shaving hairs in the sink when you're trying to brush your teeth in the morning? Ewww.

    • Jack: Hey, I'm clean. All right? Sue me. Try living with someone's grandmother for a few years.

    • Emma: So you decided the glamour and prestige of waitressing was for you, after all.
      Joey: Well, let's just say I'm currently re-aligning my life priorities.
      Emma: And getting your bum grabbed by a bunch of sadistic drunks is in your top 5.
      Joey: No, but... I'm trusting my instincts for a change.

    • (To Joey)
      Eddie: Look, it's really simple. You read the book, you come to class. Preferably in that order.

    • Todd: What? No 20-minute speech on how you're too good to get my coffee?
      Dawson: No 20-minute tirade on how it's cold?
      Todd: I must be mellowing.
      Dawson: Or I've been bringing you decaf all summer.

    • Joey: What happened to the other 3 drafts?
      Dawson: Oh, I tossed them in the dumpster.
      Joey: I see. When you went out to get coffee?
      Dawson: Yeah.
      Joey: I thought that was a little suspicious.
      Dawson: It was, actually, and... and now that you mention it, um...
      (His cell phone rings)

    • Dawson: The note that I left on your pillow this morning? 4 drafts. I spent like an hour trying to come up with something historically meaningful to say to you, something that would encapsulate everything about how I felt about us, about sex, about the most incredible night of my life, and you know what I came up with?
      Joey: (Smiling) 'Went out for breakfast'.

    • Joey: (To Dawson the day after having slept together) So I guess we're in agreement that since last night, words have totally lost all meaning.

    • Rich: (To Pacey) you might want to rethink that suit. Seems a little gay.

    • Rich: (To Pacey) If you don't think you can commit to becoming the lowest form of life, the kind that lives by his wits, the kind that doesn't take no for an answer, then I suggest you leave.

    • Jen: (To Grams) Is that really how you want to spend your golden years, folding some man's laundry and pretending to actually share an interest?

    • Jen: Wait a second. Math? Don't tell me you actually took my advice.
      Grams: Stranger things have happened.
      Jen: And I suppose this has nothing to do with the fact that a certain someone actually teaches math?
      Grams: Are you implying that there's anything wrong with taking interest in someone's life's work?

    • Audrey: Yes, hello. Is this room service? Oh, my gosh. You know my name. How cool.

    • Pacey: I just don't want to be late for the interview. Ok?
      Audrey: I'm sure that it is just a technicality. Trust me. When my dad pulls strings, they stay pulled. How do you think I got into Worthington?

    • (The morning after having slept together)
      Joey: So we should probably stop and think about this. You know, about what it means. I mean, about how this will change... (Dawson kisse her) ...things.
      Dawson: Maybe later.
      (They beging to make out again)

    • (Dawson gets Joey a white rose from Worthington's campus)
      Joey: Well, it's a $500 fine to pick one of these.
      Dawson: Worth every penny.

    • Dawson: I will. Why are you doing this, Joey?
      Joey: We're doing this, Dawson. It's what we do. It's what we always do.
      Dawson: Last night was real. Today was real. It's you, not me, who doesn't wanna deal with the realities of an adult relationship.
      Joey: You're right.
      Dawson: That's it? I'm right?
      Joey: I want the fantasy. I want more than anything for us to be together. But not like this. Not screaming at the top of our lungs about things that happened 4 years ago.
      Dawson: But if we can't argue like this and get past it, then...
      Joey: Maybe there's nothing here worth saving. Maybe last night was just...
      Dawson: Just what?
      Joey: Just two old friends making a huge mistake.
      Dawson: Wow. If that's the way you feel, then... then I... should go.

    • Dawson: We didn't talk at all this summer, which was your choice as much as it was mine.
      Joey: So I asked you to lie to me?
      Dawson: Joey, you and I both know if either one of us had stopped and thought for even a second last night, then what we did never would have happened, and I for one am not sorry that it did. If you are, then that's... that's a completely separate argument. That's actually a much bigger deal than...
      Joey: Dawson, you have a girlfriend! How is that not a big deal?
      Dawson: Had a girlfriend, Joey. And, look, I'm willing to admit that the timing on this is far from perfect, but I'm sick of waiting for this so-called perfect timing that's obviously never gonna happen for us.
      Joey: Oh, yeah, right. You know, it's... better to just get it over with and move on, you know? "Slept with Joey. Just... cross that off my list of things to do."
      Dawson: You know that's not how I think.
      Joey: How do I know that, Dawson? I haven't talked to you all summer. Apparently you've changed so much that you're willing...
      Dawson: You really think I'd wanna sleep with you and not want it to mean more, Joey? You think I've been waiting all these years for us to have one night together and then go our separate ways?
      Joey: Oh, I'm sorry you got sick of waiting, Dawson. I'm sorry that I wanted our first time to mean something more than just...
      Dawson: It does mean more, Joey! It... I mean, it... it means everything to me. I... I don't know what it means to you.
      Joey: Oh, you're saying that I wanted this to happen?
      Dawson: No, 'cause that would involve you actually knowing what you want, which we both know is not likely to happen anytime this decade.
      Joey: Oh, great, you know? Use something when I was a child!
      Dawson: You're still a child, Joey. You're still the same scared little girl who...
      Joey: Who what? Who what, Dawson? Who broke your heart? God! Is the statute of limitations ever gonna end on that one? Ever?! Dawson, I'm sorry I don't have the same dreams I had when I was 15 years old, and I'm sorry that I moved on faster than you did, but you know what? Maybe not everything that happens to you is my fault! And maybe just because I want more from my life than...
      Dawson: More than what? More than us? You don't know, do you? You've never known. The entire time I've known you, all you've wanted to do is escape. From me, from Capeside. I mean, you say that I'm the dreamer. I'm the one who doesn't wanna live in the real world. Well, I'm doing it, Joey. Right now. I'm living in the real world. It's you who wants the fantasy.
      Joey: I want the fantasy?
      Dawson: Yes.
      Joey: Who lit the candles? Who bought the champagne?
      Dawson: Who dumped who 4 years ago? Joey, I know what I want. I've always known what I want. Before we destroy whatever chance we might actually have at having a relationship, I'm asking you, please, stop and think about this. Is this really what you want? Is this... really the way that you want things to end between us?

    • Jen: I'm just road kill along the Dawson and Joey highway.

    • (Raising a glass of champagne)
      Dawson: To Joey Potter, on her 19th birthday. A day that will live in infamy.

    • Dawson: I spent the night at a friend's.
      Todd: A friend's? Had I known you actually had any friends, I wouldn't have wasted valuable production dollars on lodging you. Well. Well... details.
      Dawson: Not a chance. Every good thing that's happened in my life I've essentially managed to talk out of existence. I'm not gonna do that this time.

  • Notes

    • Hal Ozsan, who plays Todd Carr, was in an episode of CSI:Miami with Kerr Smith.

    • Music featured in the episode included:
      As I Lay Me Down by Sophie B. Hawkins
      Afterlife by Rosey
      I Wish You Well by Anna Waronker
      Gimme A Sign by Ryan Adams
      Confessions by Lea Longo
      Here We Go by Dispatch
      It's Not by Aimee Mann
      Let You Go by Laura Doyle

    • Dana Ashbrook, who plays Pacey's new boss Rich Rinaldi, was one of the stars of David Lynch's bizarre TV series Twin Peaks. He is one of several cast members from that show to appear on Dawson's Creek (others include Sherilyn Fenn and Madchen Amick).

    • A replica of Dawson's childhood home is built as a set to a Hollywood horror movie. The exact same thing happened to Sidney in the third installment to the Scream movie trilogy, which was also created by Dawson's Creek's creator Kevin Williamson.

  • Allusions

    • (Joey finds out about the surprise dinner that Dawson has set up in the movie set)
      Joey: Kinda hokey, don't you think?
      Dawson: Yeah, that's exactly what I think.

      This is an allusion to a previous scene in the same episode:

      (Dawson hands Joey a white rose)
      Dawson: Roses. All over Worthington.
      Joey: Kinda hokey, don't you think?
      Dawson: Yeah, that's exactly what I think.

    • Jen: (To Grams) Wait a second. Math? Don't tell me you actually took my advice.

      This is an allusion to episode 6x01 The kids are alright.

    • Dawson: I spent the night at a friend's.

      This is an allusion to 6x01 The kids are alright.

    • Joey: You obviously don't remember me, but...
      Eddie: oh, yeah. Sure. Nice to see you again.

      This is an allusion to episode 6x01 The kids are alright.

    • Pacey: Except for this place I looked at yesterday.

      This is an allusion to episode 6x01 The kids are alright.

    • Dawson: Who dumped who 4 years ago? Joey, I know what I want.

      This is an allusion to episode 2x06 The Dance.

    • Audrey: I got it at Fred Segal, so you can't return it even if you don't, but not that you would because it's totally stunning and everything!

      Fred Segal is clothing retailer based in Los Angeles usually associated with trendsetting, and essential fashion.

    • Joey: Mmm, you're not planning on turning into a pumpkin at midnight?

      This is an allusion to the classic children fairy tale Cinderella.

    • Joey: Come on, you have to admit you've come a long way since Sea Creatures from the Deep.

      This is an allusion to episode 1x01 Pilot.

    • Emma: Hey! You came back. Joey, right, from last night?
      Joey: Yeah.
      Emma: So you decided the glamour and prestige of waitressing was for you, after all.

      This is an allusion to episode 6x01 The kids are alright.

    • Eddie: (To Joey) Look, it's really simple. You read the book, you come to class. Preferably in that order.

      This is an allusion to episode 6x01 The kids are alright.

    • Joey: I'm assuming Satan could only be one person other than Beelzebub himself.

      Joey: I'm afraid to see what happens if the devil calls 3 times in one hour.

      Satan and Beelzebub are names by which the devil is known. The 333 number is usually related to satanic folklore.

    • Jen: Ok, so we share the art history. Um, all this Kafka is mine, and they gave us a math book by mistake.

      Franz Kafka (1883-1924) was one of the major fiction writers of the 20th century.

    • Pacey: I say that we're not on the set of dynasty and you have class in an hour.

      Dynasty is a television hit primetime soap by Aaron Spelling that aired on ABC from January 12, 1981 to May 11, 1989.

    • The episode title, The Song Remains the Same, is also the name of the opening track of Led Zeppelin's 1973 release, Houses of the Holy.