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REVIEW 1.02 - "Ah, But Underneath" Episode Discussion

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    Zazawie

    [1]May 23, 2012
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    EPISODE 2: "AH, BUT UNDERNEATH"


    On Sunday October 10, 2004, "Desperate Housewives" aired its second episode, entitled "Ah, But Underneath". The episode was written by creator Marc Cherry and directed by Larry Shaw.


    The housewives discuss about what to do with the blackmail note sent to Mary Alice, as Paul tries to cover his tracks. Bree and Rex go into marriage counseling, while Gabrielle and John try to keep their affair under the radar. Susan and Edie compete for Mike's affection.


    Guest stars include Christine Estabrook as Martha Huber, Sam Lloyd as Dr. Goldfine, Brent and Shane Kinsman as the Scavo twins and Zane Huett as Parker Scavo.

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    RenatoB

    [2]May 23, 2012
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    Cool. I'm gonna spend the afternoon studying, but I'll definitely watch and review tonight.

    Edited on 05/23/2012 7:33am
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    MoHasanie

    [3]May 24, 2012
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    I loved this episode as well. It was really good. All the housewives had a good story. and we were slowly getting to know the housewives and understand their characters. I can't write a detailed review cause I'm really busy these days, but I'll write a short review.


    I liked Bree in this episode. She felt so unappreciated. I felt kind of bad for her, that Rex takes everything she does for granted. It was also funny how much that button on the coat of the therapist annoyed her so much.


    I felt kind of bad for Paul, even though he looked quite evil in this episode, he had lost his wife, and he thought she just killed herself for no reason. I wonder why he dug up the toy chest in the first place?? Did he think Mary Alice told someone...? And also, why did he throw the toy chest into the lake? It would have been smarter to just bury it somewhere else.


    Martha was also good in this episode; She was so nosy. Its a little unrealistic though, that she could figure out so fast, that Susan was somehow involved in the fire. Maybe, if she had seen Susan outside walking around at the time of the fire, then she could have raised suspicions.


    It was funny seeing Edie and Susan trying to get Mike and then when the dog eats Susan's earring's, that was so funny. What was quite surprising the first time I watched it, was that Mike also had his own secret, which was really creepy.


    Lynette's story was also good and it washilarioushow her kids all disappeared after she left them on the road for a few minutes.. There wasn't much progression from the pilot for her character though, cause her annoyance with her crazy kids was used both in the pilot and this episode.


    Gaby wasn't that interesting in this episode. The beginning was funny, but I didn't really like her that much in this episode, because I just don't feel sorry for her. I realize Carlos doesn't pay much attention to her, but its so wrong to be sleeping with a teenager just cause she's unhappy.


    Overall, I'd give this episode 8.5/10. It was a great episode after the pilot.


    Housewives ranking:


    1. Bree


    2. Susan


    3. Lynette


    4. Gaby

    Edited on 05/26/2012 7:01am
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    MoHasanie

    [4]May 24, 2012
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    Why aren't other people reviewing anymore?
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    RenatoB

    [5]May 24, 2012
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    I'm definitely reviewing either today or tomorrow. I have a big test in the morning, so I'm relatively busy. But a review is on its way.
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    evafan2005

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    I'll be reviewing at some point, my work week starts today through Sunday, so it may be Saturday and I'll end up knocking out both reviews at once.

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    NiallB31

    [7]May 24, 2012
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    I posted in the Rewatch fourm, I have exams until the 29th so I will start rewatching and reviewing the episodes I have missed and will join in then. Its just these exams are the biggest pain ever and the exam on the 29th im doing crap in it so I need all the extra study time.

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    No1Slayerette

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    I watched it straight after I watched the first because I couldn't wait... and now I've gone and forgot what happened. Already I'm only interested on Bree's storyline. I did like Susan's fighting with Edie, but Gaby's storyline was just meh, and Lynette... well I wouldn't even call her kids acting out as a storyline. There was some funny moments yes, but not much happening there at all. So: Bree, Susan, Gaby, Lynette.


    Does anyone else think we should add Edie as a housewife in our listings? I assume later on it would make sense to add in Katherine and Renee when we get to them...


    I'm also going to be listing the episodes in order from best to worst, rather than number ratings, so I get get an idea of what I enjoyed most or didn't etc. in the grand scheme of things rather than just basing my rating on individual merit. Others can feel free to do this to if they like.


    1.1 Pilot


    1.2 Ah, But Underneath

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    MoHasanie

    [9]May 26, 2012
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    When will the review of 1x03 be out? Do you think we should slow it down to 2 episodes a week, since everyone seems really busy these days?
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    MoHasanie

    [10]May 26, 2012
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    No1Slayerette wrote:


    Does anyone else think we should add Edie as a housewife in our listings? I assume later on it would make sense to add in Katherine and Renee when we get to them...



    Um, Edie doesn't get important until halfway through this season when she gets her own story, but in the beginning of this season she just has stories with Susan, so I don't see why she should be in the list and also, she's not in every episode. But, when she does get her own story, then I agree that we should add her, or anyone other housewife who gets a regular story.

    Edited on 05/26/2012 11:22am
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    Zazawie

    [11]May 26, 2012
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    Yeah, I think we better skip Saturdays for now and just review episode 3 on Monday.

    I already feel bad not being able to review the first two episodes, but my exams are coming up and I'll be pretty busy until the end of June. Damn you life, messing with my tv schedule!
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    MoHasanie

    [12]May 26, 2012
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    Ok, great! I'm fine with two episodes a week.
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    RenatoB

    [13]May 26, 2012
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    Yeah, I feel really bad over not having reviewed ep 2 yet either.. I'll try to get it done soon. As for Edie, I think she could get her own paragraph in the review, but we should only rank the four main housewives. That was the point, for us to figure out which of the main ladies rules each season.
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    No1Slayerette

    [14]May 27, 2012
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    Fair enough, looks like I'm the only one with nothing to do lol, just watched ep 3, and yeah, Edie's not even in it so that makes sense. I'm obviously happy to do only two eps a week, probably be better when people have more time to discuss anyway.

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    RenatoB

    [15]May 27, 2012
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    Finally, I am sitting down (or lying down) and re-watching episode 1.02 and commenting on it as I go along. About damn time, seeing as how it's been almost a week since I did the pilot.


    It's the weirdest thing to watch the first PoDH segment, no background music, no title card in the beginning... Also, it's pretty much all Gabrielle. Apparently the writers didn't think that showing Edie's house burning up wasn't an important part of the recap? Odd.


    To be honest, the main reason why it's been taking me so long is because I actually recently re-watched these episodes, and actually recapped the first 2 and a half for the wiki, so it's a bit boring seeing them all again. I look forward to when we get to later episodes, though, some of which I haven't seen in a really, really long time.


    It's actually a very sad thing that the opening credits were dropped so early on in the series and never restored, not even for the series finale. I would like some explanation regarding that. Sure, they were already cut in so many episodes through seasons 2-3, but still... they're so good. So special.


    MARY ALICE: It seems like she is talking so fast. Regardless, it's insane how well I know her narrations by heart. And everyone else's lines, really. I will never understand why Paul dug up the toy chest. Like rentlover said. Or why Mary Alice killed herself, of course. Had they been more careful, their secret would had probably been kept forever. But, of course, why would anyone bother themselves with thinking about this too much? The story needed to start and be moved along somehow, and people do stupid things in real life all the time. And they certainly do a lot of stupid things in this show (I'm looking at you, Susan... I love you like crazy but you be dumb). Mary Alice's talking is weird in this episode. She sounds closer to her parody on that MADtv sketch than the actual Mary Alice we remember.


    GABRIELLE: This opening is such a classic, and certainly one of the best and most memorable teasers of the series. By the way, how unrealistic is it the amount of time these characters take to answer an intimidating question while Mary Alice blah-blah-blahs? Seriously, Gaby takes so much time (and looks so awkwardly suspicious) to answer Carlos' question about John's whereabouts... how dumb is Carlos? Same thing happened with Lynette at the store with Natalie Klein in the pilot. It's funny when they show the porn star's butt outside the house, I can't help but wonder, isn't any other resident ever able to notice that stuff? Or when the two porn stars both had sex in front of a large window in the pilot? No one happens to notice the new neighbor boinking the underaged gardener? Doesn't Martha Huber, or Karen McCluskey, spend the better part of their days spying on the neighs? The way Carlos tells Gaby to make love to him... creepy. The way he talks in these early episodes, he's so different from the Carlos in the later seasons, the great husband and father... I can't help but think that he's unhappy in his marriage too. Gabrielle had every reason to be upset, but one can't help but think, "Damn, can't be easy to be married to a woman like that." It is so weird how Gabrielle calls John Jonathan. His nickname isn't Jon, how does Jonathan work? I don't get it. Anyway, I remember seeing that footage of Gaby in the leopard scarf and sunglasses walking sneakily in the original trailers for the show in my country. Also, I believe the general consensus is that after orgasm one becomes snoozy and unfocused, but... whatever floats your boat, Jonathan. Happy studying! When Susan asks about the rose, about how the gardener gave her a rose... come on, it's impossible for her not to think something. Even if it is just John with puppy love. It's sad how Gabrielle's breath is taken away by yet another gift. Materialistic hoe. Then again, mine would too. So... yeah, can't criticize much. That's a nice car.


    LYNETTE: "Paul, we have proof your wife killed yourself over some deep, dark secret, 'nother bearclaw?" - Ah, yes, this kind of joke. We'd hear it again in the series, especially in Marc Cherry-penned episodes, and it would never be funny again. Seriously, when Mr. Pinkham said something similar in 7.01, I cringed. I always do when re-watching it. I don't like repeated jokes unless they're clear homages. On DH, I doubt they ever are. This storyline is the sitcom-est in the episode, although much better and more poignant than it would be in an actual sitcom. Unless maybe "Modern Family", I don't know, that show is very well written. That babysitter joining the witness relocation program is a bit much, though, always was. Felicity is so great after her kids go missing. And yeah, it does seem like Julie Bowen mimicks her performance a bit. Which may be why she's Emmy-winning greatness on that show. Also, Jan Hoag... is rotund. It's funny when she goes down.


    BREE: I like the continuity with Bree's first fiance, Ty Grant. Back when the writers probably actually wrote down stuff regarding their main characters' backstories. I do not like the continuity with Edie's second husband, however. Rothwell? I doubt someone with the first name Umberto would have the second name Rothwell. Not criticizing this episode's backstory, of course, I'm criticizing the 100th's. Damn, these characters sigh a lot. Every single one of them. I've lost track of how many times there's been sighing in this episode. I miss sequences like Susan's awkward reminiscing of burning down the house or Bree focusing on Dr. Goldfine's button. You know, stand-out technically different sequences. The scene about Freud is one of my favorites, but it is so ruined when Bree asks Rex in 1.14 what his mother did to him to scar him into liking S& M sex. Poor continuity there... that's disappointing. I like how cooky Dr. Goldfine seems to be. Though it's probably too close to his "Scrubs" character.


    SUSAN: I really like the beginning of Susan and Mike's romance, it seems so cute and earnest. It's so funny and awkward how Bongo keeps barking at Susan, like he's afraid of her. That really oughta be bad for one's game. Or maybe he's just jealous of Susan. And he isn't bothered with Edie because he knows slut don't stand a chance. Except that, according to season 3, she does. Bongo is a beautiful dog, by the way, I wish I knew the name of its portrayer. I like when Mike says "Just the two of us?", with that hint of a smile. Jamie Denton's acting is so natural in this episode, charming and believable, that I figured out what the matter with him is in later seasons. It's not that he's a rather sub-par actor, it's that the material he's given his sub-par. I mean, really, his lines in seasons 6-8 are as cheesy as cheesy gets. I love how Julie relishes in the development of Susan and Mike's relationship. I think the writers made it easy for people to become instantly invested in their relationship from the get-go. Makes it all the more sad how they made them so boring over the years, and how they killed him off so near the end. All in all, I love Susan's ending in the series, it's actually my favorite, but it's still disappointing that the best guy got whacked when jerkwads Tom and Carlos lived on, arguing happily ever after with their controlling wives. Meh. MEH! Anyway... Also, was that rumor true about Teri Hatcher's breasts being digitally reduced in season 1? Because Susan's boobs in this episode and Susan's boobs in 8.09... HUGE difference. It's such a shame Bongo was dropped with no ceremony whatsoever. I would had liked to have seen Bongo in the parade of ghosts in the finale, maybe even alongside Mike, at least then we'd know he died. Also, I want believe dogs go to Doggy Heaven. I wonder how they got the dog to sound rough like that.


    EDIE and MARTHA: The best thing about Edie Britt in season 1 is, even though she is absent from SO many episodes, when she is indeed used, they make it worth her and our whiles. She was never a lead character, sure, but in the episodes that actually feature her she appears to be a vital part of the main ensemble. Later seasons would go an extra mile to feature her in every episode... sometimes to the point of having her do a silent MAVO cameo. Edie is such an imposing tramp, you can't help but love her. "Hmmm... that sounds so good." And the way she says "Aw, that's so sweet." You're great, Nicollette Sheridan. I would never slap you. I like the interaction between Martha and all the 'wives in these first two episodes. Also, Lynette clearly addresses her as "Mrs. Hyuber" in this episode, not "Hoober". So my confusion is justified. I love Susan and Martha's brief back-and-forth about Edie. Ah, the nerve on Martha Huber... spritzing herself with Susan's new perfume. Mike says "Hewber" too. Also, the guy who lives across from Mrs. Huber... Mr. Mullen... is that supposed to be Mr. Mullins, the previous Applewhite house owner? The way Edie blinks at Julie... bitch.



    When you think about it, this episode is a really a bit uneventful, but it speaks a lot to the characters' cores, especially Bree and Gabrielle.


    Okay, so, both Penny and Bongo are in the first two episodes. I need to keep track of their appearances for the wiki. Stupid uncredited animals and babies...

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    RenatoB

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    1st place - Susan - she's just so charming.
    The rest of 'em are hard...

    2nd place - Gabrielle - surprisingly enough / I thought I'd rank her last, but I enjoyed her more than everyone else watching this episode.

    3rd place - Lynette - also surprisingly. I thought Bree would be 2nd before I watched.

    4th place - Bree - for some reason, re-watching this episode, she seemed like the odd one out, like her story was so different, so secluded... I can't explain it. But that's the thing, everyone has a great story in this episode, it's hard to rank. But, yeah, 1 - Susan, 2 - Gabrielle, 3 - Lynette, 4 - Bree.
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    MoHasanie

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    Good review Renato! You type very detailed reviews so now I get why it takes you so long to post your reviews

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    Eh, eh, thanks. I like to type as I watch the episode so that I don't leave anything out.
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    evafan2005

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    Yeah I started my re-watch immediately after the finale aired, I'm actually on episode 2x07 right now....so I definitely don't want to go back and re-watch them AGAIN right now, but I've also been busy with work which is why I haven't been able to review lately. But, I'm off for the next 3 days so I definitely plan on reviewing 1x02 and 1x03 over this time

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    RenatoB wrote:
    It's funny when they show the porn star's butt outside the house, I can't help but wonder, isn't any other resident ever able to notice that stuff? Or when the two porn stars both had sex in front of a large window in the pilot? No one happens to notice the new neighbor boinking the underaged gardener? Doesn't Martha Huber, or Karen McCluskey, spend the better part of their days spying on the neighs?
    Yes, this has annoyed me so far with Gaby and John's sex scenes. If audiences can see extras through the window in the distance, those people would be able to see them having sex!


    RenatoB wrote:
    Also, Jan Hoag... is rotund. It's funny when she goes down.
    Haha. True.


    RenatoB wrote:
    I like how cooky Dr. Goldfine seems to be. Though it's probably too close to his "Scrubs" character.
    No one could be as kooky as Ted Tongue out, but the actor certainly has an awkward quality to him.


    RenatoB wrote:
    I love how Julie relishes in the development of Susan and Mike's relationship.
    I don't, it's creepy. Please stop the twelve year old (or however old she is) from talking about relationships and sex as if she's the mother giving advice to Susan... it's just wrong.


    RenatoB wrote:
    Okay, so, both Penny and Bongo are in the first two episodes. I need to keep track of their appearances for the wiki. Stupid uncredited animals and babies...
    Lol that sucks, have fun with that.

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