That's Good, That's Bad

Season 2, Episode 9, Aired

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  • loved it

    9.5
    "Superb"

    loved this episode of desperate housewives after a couple of iffy episode this one brought it back to the housewives quality i expect, the bree stuff was really the best the stuff with and george was really chilling and brilliantly acted by both maricia cross and roger bart, the susan storyline was very good mostly just filler stuff susan seems to be abit of a lost cause this season now the young mytery has gone, know applewhites this week which was ok as they arnt in tresting

  • Por fín Bree se da cuenta de la clase de hombre que es George.

    9.1
    "Superb"
    Aceptemoslo la inclusión de la hermana Mary va a hacer muy interesante la serie, especialmente ver a Gabrielle celosa es sencillamente deliciosa, además que en verdad su oponente no tiene nade que envidiarle en cuanto a tretas sucias se refiere. Bree se entera qué pasa con George y decide tomar la justicia por su propia mano, lo cual nos muestra una Bree muy parecida a la que aparece en el episodio del accidente de Andrew con Juanita Solis. Lynette asciende en el trabajo pero lo logra de una manera poco convencional, para al final darse cuenta de que el remedio fué peor que la enfermedad, y finalmente vemos una débil Susan muy interesada en conocer a su padre, lo cual en el fondo me parece irreal.
  • Great one!!!

    9.0
    "Superb"
    I love this show!!!! This was awesome!!!! The part where Susan meets her dad is really good!!! Poor girl, she is the most clumsy, unlucky person I have ever seen!!!! She caused a heart attack on her own dad!!!

    Bree was amzing, shooting at George's serenade.... priceless scene!!!! She is a very funny character!!!! It broke my heart when she found out that George killed her husband.... The way she just sat and waited for Geroge to die in that hotel room was shoking!!! She can be one cold woman when she wants!!!

    Linette was fantastic, finally kicking Ninna in the bottom!!!! Ninna relly deserved it, she as a real B****. You go, Linette!!!!
  • An average episode, but it had an amazing climax. Sayonara George, we will miss your insanity.

    9.7
    "Superb"
    As with most of season two, this episode lacked some focus, since the central mystery that keeps the episode together. Susans arc was very offbeat. The last episode had a very strange twist to it, suddenly out of nowhere her mom tells her that her dad is still alive. Great timing. Not. We meet him, but I can't say I like his personality because he's boring. Another adulterous husband? Yawn.



    Gabrielle meets the evil nun. Loved it. It's too bad she's on;y going to be around for a few episodes, but it's nice to see her while it lasts. Her evilness is very enjoyable.



    Lynette settles the office politics. I liked how it was handled. For once, it was very enjoyable. She hasn't had alot of good storylines.



    Bree was amazing this night. Truely amazing. Her affair with Mr. George the pharmacist was cut to an end. As much as I hate to see Roger Bart go, he did a great scene.



    Overall, this was a good episode, the ending was GREAT. I loved it, it was very well done and chilling.
  • Wow, Bree...

    10
    "Perfect"
    I just watched the episode in German. Even though I hate the German version of the series, I loved the episode. Especially the Bree-storyline. She's a strange character and she really has bad luck with the guys. Well, she's sort of blind, I think. Everyone else could see how weird George was and in the end she realized his sick mind and then... wow... that decision to let him die and watch him while he does, that was shocking. But I understand her!

    Like Mary-Alice said in the end about the difference of good and bad and the problems with defining it - some characters are really surprisingly "bad" on the inside. Take Bree or that stupid nun. Well, that was great episode, it really made me wanna watch the next one soon!
  • Finally!

    9.1
    "Superb"
    This episode was really what we can call 'pivotal'. One of the major questions has been resolved:



    Bree finally finds out that George, the pharmacist, is not as nice as he initially appeared to be. She realizes that he's the one to be responsible for her husband's death and also for her psychologist's "accident". George, in an act of desperation, tries to win Bree back by swallowing a load of sleeping pills in hope that Bree wil call an ambulance. However, she fails to do so and thus George finally dies, the official cause of death being suicide, how we find out later on.



    All in all this episode marks a milestone in the Desperate Housewives plot because one of the key issues has finally been resolved, or hasn't it? :)
  • What we've all been waiting for.

    9.0
    "Superb"
    Bree has gotten back to her usual habits, hosting perfect dinner parties, but not before long she is interrupted by George, who is outside singing on a karaoke machine on the side of a van with large speakers, about his undying love for her. After being embarrassed in front of her guests by the interruption, she quickly runs upstairs, pulls out a gun, and fires at the speakers on the van from the window. After Lynette catches Stu and Nina having sex in the office late at night, she confronts Nina and holds it over her, in an attempt to make Nina nicer to the other staff. But this backfires when Nina fires Stu. Wanting to improve the situation, Lynette goes to see Stu, but in the end, Stu ends up suing the company, and Nina and several other staff members are fired. Lynette is given Nina's old job. Carlos returns from prison on parole, with the help of Sister Mary, who instantly clashes with Gabrielle. Susan meets her birth father and tries to begin a relationship with him, which doesn't go so smoothly. Bree is at a charity event, and George is in the same hotel. He pays a hotel worker to get Bree to go up to his room, and to call him while she is in the elevator. After taking a large dosage of pills, George waits for Bree to enter, in the hope that she will save him. When Bree enters the room, seeing George, now with the knowledge that he killed Rex, she tells him that an ambulance is on its way, and she sits there and watches him die.
  • The reason I have given this episode such a high rating is mostly thanks to Bree rather than Susan's annoying story-line!

    9.4
    "Superb"
    So, a few minor disagreements for me with this episode. Firstly, I wasn't too keen on the 'everybody needs a father' story-line, especially so as I was watching it with my own single-mother who has brought me up just perfectly without a male role there. And I certainly can't compare myself to Edie! That conversation just seemed a bit preachy to me, and coming from the housewives perspectives, I don't see why they would think that. After all, we have Bree, whose children now have no father, yet even having one hardly helped their own problems! Then we have Susan, a great example to her own daughter, Lynette who stuggles with the concept of parenthood and work herself and Gabrielle...who is hardly in the position to comment.

    I found the Susan story-line just boring. Why more Susan???!!! I especially hate the Susan being pushed into a 'dramatic' plot roles where the extra characters aren't even at all enjoyable!

    However, this episode contained some excellent plots as well. Lynette's story-line was...ok...I liked her own scheming and then Nina's last words to her.

    Gabrielle and Carlos...was that hot sister even hot??? Please, I didn't see it! I don't know whether my own judgement is failing me or if the story-line was a comment on Gabrielle's own judgement i.e. that she actually loves her husband so much she is driven to unnecessary jealousy with no justification. Anyway, if I were Gabrielle I would certainly be annoyed at the sudden change in the relationship.

    Bree, just wonderful. This is what made the episode for me. And, luckily, we managed to avoid the possible hotel rape situation again. Firstly, Bree looked just stunning in her white dress, with free hair movement! ;) Her phone-call to the police-man was just right, as was her whole front as she rode the lift up. And wow, can Marcia act!!! Did anyone see the dramatic transformation from beauty to absolute disgust, horror, anger in 2 seconds!! Her forehead just suddenly clenched in anger, the veins appearing. Wow. You've got to love Marcia.

    So, all in all, a very good episode. I'm unhappy we'll have to sit through this Susan story-line, though she was fairly alright with his wife, nothing of Caleb in this new episode but that was fine with me because it was such a strong strong Bree-centered episode.



  • Just Desserts Written by Kevin Murphy Directed by Larry Shaw

    9.0
    "Superb"
    George: “You know I’m not a bad person”

    Bree: “I know you’re not a bad person. I just don’t know if you’re a good one either”.



    With an episode so appropriately titled, Season Two hits another water cooler discussion worthy episode with fragments of sympathy being allayed to our bad guys while our good ones make some questionable choices.



    Take Bree for instance. All this season she’s been heading into both a reckless and a self destructive path, what with isolating her self from her family and getting involved with George. The last two episodes finally snapped some sense back into her as she dumped the psychotic pharmacist and thankfully she seems determined to stick to her guns (pun intended) but George being as awfully persistent as he is, only ups the ante and continues to hound her relentlessness. Obviously “no” is not a word George takes so easily, then.



    At a dinner party that Bree holds in her home, George makes with some truly annoying karaoke before Bree puts her NRA skills to work and shoots his karaoke machine down. This hilarious opening sequence may be a blatant rip off to the fantasy where Ruth Fisher had when she walked through a forest and shot all of her significant lovers in the Six Feet Under episode “Ecotone” but it had me in stitches so much that I’ll let it slide. It was a priceless way to open up our latest trip to Wisteria Lane and the remainder of this instalment only got better. It was also a nice reminder that Bree is not the kind of person you would want as an enemy as George learns the hard way tonight.



    Marcia Cross once again got to shine and outdid herself as Bree learned more and more about how unstable George really is and her reactions were quite shocking. She confided in Dr Goldfine how she saw a malevolent streak in her ex-lover and when she figured out that George was responsible for assaulting her therapist, she called the police and encouraged him to turn himself into them.



    Although Roger Bart has been great as George, delivering some convincing and eerie performances for a man who started off as slightly sad but quickly evolving into a dangerous individual, I found George a little predictable in his last episode. I assumed he would try some form of emotional blackmail in order to win over Bree like he did in “I Wish I Could Forget You”, so even though taking enough pills that could kill him in the hope of Bree saving his life and taking him back may have been surprising but not a huge stretch by George standards.



    It’s just a pity for him that he hadn’t banked on Detective Barton filling Bree in on evidence that made George responsible for Rex’s death. I had a feeling that Bree was lying when she told him she called the ambulance but I like the idea of her inaction to save him not being completely black and white. As he was dying she confronted him over killing Rex and gave him the opportunity to redeem himself and confess and he chose not to take. Was it because he was truly evil or because he was a coward? As much as I hate George, I think it may have been the latter.



    I’m still undecided of what to think or feel about Bree’s inactions of this episode. She let a man die. Okay she had incentive to not want to help him and I understood where she was coming from but if Bree wasn’t in a stable place before, then she really isn’t now. I can’t wait to see how this pans, I really can’t.



    While I’m on the theme of fallouts, the ongoing office politics between Lynette and Nina really hit the fan tonight as Lynette’s attempts of getting even of her rival on two occasions managed to blow up in her face big time. Her attempts of blackmailing Nina after catching her rival and office boy Stu having sex got the latter fired. In fairness, Lynette’s demands were simple. It’s not as if she likes to extort money like Martha Huber, all Nina had to do was to be nice and give up her parking space and she still could’ve maintained her cold steel.



    As for Stu, I don’t really hate the guy but isn’t he a tad dense? You wouldn’t have to be a genius that part of Lynette’s encouragement for him to file a sexual harassment complaint against Nina was selfishly motivated, even if he did greatly benefit from it in the end as his lawsuit made a couple of employees at Parcher and Murphy, including Nina redundant. Going by Nina’s comments about Ed it seems a newly promoted Lynette may have won the battle but lost the war and if her ex co-workers find out she’s responsible for them losing their jobs, then she’s going to be one unpopular lady. Even when one of our housewives tries to do good something bad comes out of it.



    Good and bad behaviour continue to be a theme with the Solis’ as Gabrielle’s joy for Carlos being released from jail quickly is short lived when she finds out how determined Carlos is to become a good Catholic. Here’s a tip, try apologising to Justin and the cable guy you beat up and actually mean it and then to Edie for stealing her car. You could just see the rage in Gabrielle when her holier than thou adversary, Sister Mary Bernard (the same actress who played that Kimber clone in “Hannah Tedesco”, is playing our “hot” nun) proved to be a tough nut to threaten.



    Briefly in “Guilty” last season, Carlos discussed how his and Gabrielle’s materialism made them shallow people and one of his ideas for charity was to sell his car. You could say it’s a nice gesture on his part and maybe Carlos does want to be a better man but it’s going to take more than flogging an expensive car to convince me. As for Sister Mary and Gabrielle, I validate this feud and I want the writers to milk it for all it’s worth.



    The good and bad is then finally explored with Susan’s plot as her quest to meet her father actually turned out to be a lot more interesting than I had anticipated. Just with “Colour And Light” we got to see a more rational and mature Susan, aided by a rather subtle but effective performance from Teri Hatcher, which makes a change.



    Although I wasn’t totally surprised her father, Addison didn’t want to have anything to do with her, I felt really bad for Susan but I was pleasantly surprised that while she determined not to give up on getting to know her father, she dealt with being rejected in a mature manner. As I’ve stated before and will probably again, this side of Susan needs to be seen more often. Also hats off to the savagely underused Edie for the “acquired taste” comment directed towards Susan during the poker game. It was a really funny moment.



    Also in “That’s Good, That’s Bad”



    Housewife of the week: I noticed that at Bree’s fabulous parties, it was for her rich friends like Tish in “The Ladies Who Lunch” and not Susan, Gabrielle or Lynette. Bree has also never talked about George to her friends and they’ve shown no knowledge of their relationship.



    Nina (to Lynette/co-workers): “All right, let’s recap, shall we? Stinky pitch, working late no apologies”.



    Stu: “Hot muffins, any takers?”

    Lynette: “No Stu, these people don’t deserve muffins”.



    Lynette’s pitched resembled the Puma logo if I’m not mistaken. Stu also got fired for breaking the copier, being late for work and stealing paper clips. He was replaced by a woman named Pat.



    Lynette: “You know who’ll have my head”

    Bree/Susan/Gabrielle/Edie: “Nina!”



    I loved how the ladies said “Nina” in a childlike manner. This was also the third poker game we’ve had in the space of nine episodes but the first with Lynette included. Here’s hoping we see more of them.



    Lynette: “How old were you when you lost your virginity?”

    Edie: “Good point”.



    Susan: “Why, because I went to college?”

    Addison: “Because you finished high school”.



    The short apple logo thing looks set to stay for the timing. ABC are bored with actual opening credits. This works well for Lost but it looks downright lazy for other series.



    Sister Mary: “Money can’t buy happiness”

    Gabrielle: “Sure it can. It’s a lie we tell to poor people to stop them from writing”.



    As somebody who isn’t exactly religious, even I’m aware than Mass is on every day. Is Gabrielle really that dense?



    Susan: “I never did get that horse feed”

    Addison: “I’ll set some aside for you”.



    Nina (to Lynette, re Ed): “You better kiss those four little kiddies goodbye because you’ve just adopted the neediest kid in the world”.



    There was a lot of people missing in this episode: No Karl, Mike, Zach, Paul, Andrew, Danielle, Betty, Matthew or Caleb.



    Gabrielle: “If you try to come between me and my husband, I will take you down”

    Sister Mary: “I have God on my side, bring it on!”



    Bree (re forgiveness): “It’ll be the hardest thing I’ve ever done but I’ll do it. But you have to tell me the truth”

    George: “I’m in trouble, you need to call someone”.



    There was no chronological reference in this episode.



    After a largely disappointing previous episode, “That’s Good, That’s Bad” really made up for it. The themes of good and bad were wonderfully explored in a complex manner and amidst the shocks, there was plenty of humour to revel in but best of all, every plot this week demanded attention, though Bree’s was the best again.









  • Bye, bye Mr. Pharmacist!

    10
    "Perfect"
    It\'s episodes like this that make Desperate Housewives such an amazing show. I never would have guessed that this would have happened to George, at least not in that way. It was so cleverly written and just a very exciting episode all together.



    Though I can\\\'t stand George Williams, his character will be missed because he did bring a lot to the show.
  • Finally, Bree discovered the truth about George. The man was a lunatic who was very manipulative.

    8.5
    "Great"
    I just wish he would have suffered more. For all of the trouble that he caused (Killing Rex, Almost killing the therapist, and having Bree's son sent away, etc.), George died a rather peaceful death. He should have been tortured. But anywho, I am just glad that he is out of the picture.
  • finally a somehow better episode

    8.7
    "Great"
    After the disapointment that this season is to me, finally this episode was a little better. Still Susan storyline is for me by far the most boring one... Bree had a great episode with the creepy George that will leave her alone now (We hope :S). Gabrielle and Carlos now have a Sister in her lifes... and for me also a creepy one... let's see where this take us....! Still keeping up the good pace of the show is Lynette storyline :).
  • Bree and George....

    7.4
    "Good"
    Bree and George what a storyline was that!! Haha she finally found out he killed George and tried to kill Dr. Goldfine. And then she slowly let him die.. I would do the same I thing



    George: I think we should call the pharamadics.

    Bree: I already did

    George: Really?

    Bree: Yeah when you were asleep.



    At this scene you almost think she really did call them. But then you think George wasn't out that long. Well I think it was a really great storyline. Maybe the should have kept George a little bit longer. However they really made it to a good end. I wanna now what's gonna happen to Bree now. With no man in her life just her and her kids. And by the way where is Andrew? And the knowledge she let a man die. a man who she thought she loved.... Well we'll see



    Carlos came out of prison? How we don't know why we don't know he had to go 8 years right? not 8 months? Well I didn't like that nun. It was to fake you know.

    Sister: Money can't but happiness



    Gabrielle: Sure it can! That's just a lie we tell poor people to keep them from rioting.



    haha well this was my review. I liked this episode but I've seen better..

    byez
  • Last Call for George Williams Written by Kevin Murphy Directed by Larry Shaw

    9.5
    "Superb"
    "Carlos is a diamond in the rough. A flawed man to be sure, but someone who is desperately searching for something to believe in."--Sister Mary Bernard



    Distinguishing the good guys from the bad guys isn't always easy. We have to get know someone really well to know what they are really capable of. In the last few months or so we, the viewers have learned that the character of George Williams was automatically a bad guy. When Bree first walked into that pharmacy I knew he was up to no good. And when he went home to watch the security tape of Bree talking to him, I knew he was obsessed with her.



    George Williams can be described as the classic villain, one that takes what he wants and leaves whatever is bad behind him. George wanted Bree so he poisoned Rex, her husband, egged on a fight between her son and himself which sent him to deprogramming camp and threw her therapist off of a bridge. George truly got what was coming to him and Bree really stepped up for revenge.



    Let me start from the beginning and work my way forward:



    During one of her famous dinner parties where people cry when they ejaculate and embarrassing stories are revealed, Mary Alice tells the audience that Bree always holds the best parties which are perfect in every way. This particular one is rudely interrupted by the musical stylings of George Williams singing "Don't Give Up On Us". Bree embarassingly runs out of the house and asks George to stop. George refuses and continues to sing. Bree goes to drastic when she pulls her gun from underneath her bed and shoots George's karaoke truck. The guests are shocked but Bree always "takes care" of her guests. The next morning, Bree is angered to find George stalking her as she goes to her car. Bree tells him to back off and George recommends counseling for the two of them. While visitng Dr. Goldfine (hooray!) in the hospital, Bree learns that his attacker had a blue bike just like George's causing her to believe that George was his attacker. Bree then phones the police who proceed to search George's home for evidence. George soon finds out and runs. He then calls Bree who tells him she knows everything and that he needs help. George decides to end it all by going to a hotel where Bree is co-chairing an event. George sends a note down with the bellhop to give to Bree that explains that he will kill himself and that she should come up to pay her respects. Bree then calls the Detective who tells her that there is evidence that George poisoned Rex. Bree stands there shocked and proceeds on the elevator to talk to George. George begins to take the pills and lays on the bed. Bree comes up moments later to ask "Why?" George denies that he tried to kill Goldfine but when he is asked about Rex. George doesn't answer at first. But then tells Bree whatever he did, he did for her because he wanted her to. George tells Bree that he needs help. Bree tells George she phoned an ambulance while he was asleep. When George finally dies, Bree quietly walks out of the room still shocked about what George did.



    Susan meets her father, Addison Prudy who owns a feed shop in town. At first, Susan feels awkward walking in but when Addison gives her a hat she walks out proud. During poker, she tells the other wives that she wants to take a part time job in the store and gradually tell him that she is his daughter. Edie thinks it is a stupid plan and Bree tells her to keep her expectations low. The job plan ultimately fails when Susan is overqualified. Addison then thinks it is a set up by his wife and shoos Susan out. Susan quickly tells him that he is her father. Addison looks shocked and then collapses in his storeroom. At the hospital, Susan visits him where he tells her that he has a family and that his affair with Sophie was not the only time he strayed away from his wife. He tells her that she has to keep it quiet because his wife will leave him. Susan doesn't really feel comfortable about all this since she wants a father figure in her life. When Addison's wife arrives, Susan tells her that she is his guardian angel who called an ambulance when he collapsed. She thanks Susan for her kindness and she then leaves. Susan then kisses her father on the cheek and tells him that "she's not giving up".



    Lynette has an unsuccessful pitch meeting when Nina and Ed hate the idea. Nina ultimately shuts it down with her rude sarcasm and her mean advise. When Lynette steps up to ask Nina for an apology she becomes offended and asks the other staff members how they feel. Each back down and Lynette is left on the outs. Nina tells Lynette she expects a better sales pitch by tomorrow. Lynette returns back to work to find Stu, the office help and Nina doing it in her office. Lynette uses this event as an advantage to get Nina to be nicer. Nina then fires Stu which Lynette believes is a blow since it was entirely based on their affair. Little does she know that Stu was late, stole paper clips and broke the copier. Lynette then advises Stu to file a harrassment suit against Nina which he does. The following morning, Lynette witnesses a series of terminations when a majority of the workers are sacked which include Nina. Lynette surprisingly is given Nina's job. Upon hearing this, Nina gives her heartfelt congratulations since she has just adopted the neediest child in the world who is her new boss, Ed.



    Finally on the Solis front, Carlos is paroled from jail and now very religious. When Gabby finds his letters addressed to a nun she makes fun of him because she thinks Carlos isn't really like this and just used it to get out of jail. When she sees what the nun looks like she believes it is something else. Personally the nun was attractive but not exactly a "hot nun" as Gabby stated. Carlos assures her that she is mistaken. When she invites Sister Bernard over for lunch, Carlos surprisingly offers his car to their mission which Gabby barks at seeing as she has more important things to do such as shopping when they have 2 cars. Carlos has his mind made up and goes to get the deed. Gabby lures him away from the dresser drawer by having sex with him with the nun in the house. Later, Gabby goes down to apologize and ask her to leave. The two go outside where she describes Carlos as someone looking for what is right and wrong and tells her that some marriages should be annulled. Gabby asks "What the hell kind of nun are you" and says that if she comes between Gabby and Carlos she will take her down. Sister Bernard tells her that she grew up in a bad neighborhood and she'll have to do better. Uh-oh, will Gabby slap a nun? I think it's a face off!



    Other important events in "That's Good, That's Bad"...

    *I really felt for Nina in the closing montage, where she was quietly crying while packing her things. She was mean but getting the sack was harsh since it was Lynette's doing.

    *Susan's father, friend or foe? Will Susan's father use her or will he really be part of her life now. All Susan asked for was a lunch here and there but Susan's father really doesn't want anything to do with her.

    *Gabby taking on a nun...hilarious. Eva Longoria has really proved herself as a fantastic actress and deserves an Emmy nomination next year. I'm excited on what happens with her story as the season progresses.

    *Reasons I love Bree: smart, sophistocated, a great cook and the master of revenge. Much like her character on Melrose Place, Marcia Cross' portrayal of Bree in this episode particularly is outstanding. This was truly Bree's episode. Bree stood for what she believed in but because she trusted in a man she thought was good she finally found who George really is.



    "That's Good, That's Bad" is a definite improvement from last week and shows why Desperate Housewives is one of the greatest shows on television today. Let's just hope Marc Cherry and company keep up the good work and provide more episodes like this which are both effective and shockworthy.
  • Oh please don't let Marc Cherry trick us by letting George live!

    10
    "Perfect"
    Thank God for this episode. From the previews I thought George was going to kidnap Bree, so bravo in tricking me. With George out of the picture and his evil-doings revealed, Bree can finally move on.



    Gabby has a run in with a slutty saint, so-to-speak. In a way I don't want her to break Gabby and Carlos up, but then again I would prefer them seperate. I'm torn!



    And poor Lynette's tricks to get even with her boss-coworker backfire.



    And Susan, another trite storyline that I'm afraid will continue to make me hate her character. Get this woman a good storyline! And a man, you know if Mike still is one.



    Isn't someone supposed to die in the next episode, or is that one of the other 27 shows stunts this week.
  • A bit nerve-wracking heading into this episode, but well worth the wait this season for an episode like this one.

    9.8
    "Superb"
    Well, first off, I won't lie: The season has been fairly disappointing compared to a majority of last season. However, all of that changed with the airing of this episode. Lynette's wonderful plan that exploded in her face (as usual, but with huge consequences - in other words, something that will finally last a few episodes at least). Gabrielle's new war waged against the nun, bringing forth her cattiness once again. Bree's revelation that George was not what he appeared, by a long shot - and her ultimate desperation in not forgiving him. Such stunning twists and turns, and all stuff that will last for quite awhile. This episode showed major character development, rather than random two minute short stories about our beloved characters like so much of the earlier episodes of this season were. We're finally getting into our arc.



    However, I won't deny the fact that Susan is still disappointing me. I enjoy her character, and antics are always funny, but a viewer can only take so many silly spills before they start needing a laugh track to let them know when something's really funny. Because of her development thus far, it was hard to take her character seriously now. Sure she's had her troubles in the past, but this specific episode showcased her biggest moment of mingled shock, fear, and excitement - and unfortunately, I wasn't able to take it seriously. I didn't connect with her character when she found him, nor when she rushed him into the hospital after his heart attack. That is, until he rejected her. Susan finally made me feel for her when she took a moment to decide what mattered to her, kept his secret, and told him she wasn't about to give up. Go Susan!



    All in all, the girls were finally back in force, and it's only got me pumped that this season will indeed keep up the prestige of the last. Desperate Housewives is far from over - or even settling - and if Lynette's scheming, Gabrielle's fierceness, Bree's ability to remain calm and collected before the complications of those in her life, and Susan's silly antics and ever-disrupted emotional state don't convince you...then you've probably never seen an episode.
  • Karaoke machine, we hardly knew ye. Requiescat im pace. :)

    9.5
    "Superb"
    Excusing herself for a moment, Bree climbs the steps to her bedroom, pulls out a rifle and with the sort of perfection we've come to expect from this character > BLAST! < empties a round into a karaoke machine, killing it.



    G-d, that was perfect. My hands hurt from applauding. She just looked perfect doing it, too. Marcia Cross is a g.d. genius and I don't care who knows it.



    This show is so brilliant. Gaby warring with Carlos' nun was delicious. She's going to break orders by the end of this -- count on it (not a spoiler, btw -- just speculation). And for all of you saying Susan's storyline is boring, I'll just point out that for those of us out here who are adopted, these are not minor questions. Most of us have some feeling one way or the other about meeting our birth parents, and so maybe it was just me, but when Susan came running out with her little hat and her fantasy about building a grand huge life around this old man she's barely said hello to, that struck a chord, and probably not just with me.



    Lynette, you naughty.



    To be perfectly honest, tho, Nina should've taken her deal. Far less devastating and disruptive in the long run. She should've just found a way to be nice. And later, when she unloaded about how miserable her job was, let's be honest with ourselves: Lynette is at least 85 times more organized than Nina ever seemed to be, and let's look at this: This guy is making some terrible decisions. Any advertising firm with even some modest successes under its belt has enough insurance to face a lawsuit. And there's no way they can serve their clients if they fire everyone.



    Lynette with succeed in this new position.



    Also, it wasn't her fault, exactly. It was Nina's decision to shag Stu, and it was Stu's decision to file for sexual harrassment. Since that's what Nina did, it's only fair.



    Lynette can probably find another position at some point as well if she needs to. Her boss is easily distracted by shiny things, but I didn't get the sense that she was getting all that much help from Nina anyway.



    Great episode, great installment, and those last five minutes -- omg. Excellent call, Bree. Excellent call. That guy was scary and manipulative and I'm truly happy she learned th truth in time to put it to use.



    Poor Bree, of course, but wow. What a great resolution.



    Well done. Well done, everyone.
  • I love this show!

    10
    "Perfect"
    I've been watching this show entirely in a few days (season 1 + actual season 2) and I must say it has a peculiar atmosphere that I really appreciate. I particularly like the relationships between Carlos and his wife which are so funny :-) Concerning their story, this episode is kind of a new start for them as Carlos is finally back home. However, he now seems to be a little obsessed with religion which might have to deal with the fact that an attractive blond nun took care of him while he was in jail ;-) This episode also ends up the pharmacist/Bree/Rex's death plot which I think is going to lead to a new plot in the next episodes to replace it.



    10/10 :-)

  • Finally Bree finds out that George killed Rex...and give Lynette a break!

    9.5
    "Superb"
    Ok I have to say that I wholeheartedly disagree with the people who have given this episode a really low rating, I thought it was excellent.



    First of all Bree finally finds out that George killed Rex although admittedly it was a bit late in the day, I have been waiting impatiently since last season for her to work it out. Mind you it was pure classic when she took out the shootgun and shot off George's speakers.



    As for Lynette, god sake people, she is a great character! I just do not see why people seem to hate her especially the same ones who loved Susan in the first season, at times I was wondering if we were watching the same show. In any case it is great to see Nina finally get the boot, I found it a little hard to believe that Lynette would take so much crap from her. Everytime she was on the screen I wanted to punch her in the face! I wasn't liking the guilt angle at Nina getting fired though, perhaps for the others, but not for her.



    In finally got emotional about Susan's story in this show too, it even got me a bit teary. She is really becoming a lot more likeable, but seems that a lot of people only want to see her ditzy and running around after men Sex & The City esque.



    Now finally we get to Gabrielle and Carlos. I loved the reunion scene. How cares if it is a bit unbelievable that she would not recognise his voice, it made great TV! I am not liking the nun angle though and one point I do have to agree on is, 'hot' nun - yeah right! I don't know on what planet she is hot.
  • Well well well...

    6.6
    "Fair"
    Well well well, you know how much I dislike this season (At least I admit it!) for everything and I have to say that this episode was totally silly except For Bree and George.



    Let me explain, a kind of "hot" (you are kidding? she seems to be Princess Daisy from the movie Super Mario Bros!) nun came to visit the Solis because bad Carlos has decided to stop everything bad... (yeah yeah...) Gabrielle is jealous (for what? she is ugly!) and decides to "corrupt" her husband by sleeping with him in the house while miss hottie nun is there waiting for lunch! (Oh my god! I totally agree with the guy who let 03/10 for this episode)

    Yeah yeah, at the end, Carlos is sleeping (wow Sugar! you rock!) and Gaby comes in peignoir to say to her guest that she is not welcomed. Then the hottie nun says her that Carlos might annuled their marriage. (what's a good plot, c'mon guys take the guitar and let's play!)



    For Susan, it was maybe the worst ever (actually all this season), she finally finds out her dirty father but (like in the Jerry Springer show) he doesn't want her in his life. (Let's play!) So Susan is sad, as usual, and Susan doesn't know what to do -as usual-.



    But the worst is coming, oh yeah my friends, THE great Lynette was back! and please give me a break because Stue and Nina, huh, huh, right!

    Youpayoh! now nina is out! Welcome to the emmy's award worst actress. (at least for this season)



    The end was however good with Bree and George, that was his end and I am not happy for him because he was the only good thing in this season... but well, I expect the Applewhite family now. (Who? yeah I know...)
  • Are people really watching this show?

    3.0
    "Bad"
    I wonder if people are really being honest when they watch this show at this point! Because last night (and this whole season) has been garbage! The only thing worth watching was the Bre angle. If it wasnt for Marcia Cross this show would be dead! The whole lynette and working angle has not worked since episode 1 and last night was no different! Susan chasing another man around (dad instead of mike) and freaks the guy out to a level of a heart attack! Comeon!! And the whole Gabby angle was easily the worst thing I have ever seen on TV. Lets see she can't tell its her husband on the phone, then she gets mad he is trying to clean himself up, and then to top it off she seduces her husband and the two of them have sex WITH A NUN DOWNSTAIRS?! GIVE ME A BREAK! Then on top of it all she and the nun get into a war of words and threaten each other? This was the worst! And finally have the writers forgotten about the Caleab angle? I think they must have considering at the end of last week's epsiode he is getting hauled away by the cops and this week we do not have 1 part to follow this up! People need to start watching for real and stop watching for the hype!
  • The best episode this season.

    8.9
    "Great"
    I think this was by far the best episode so far this season. I haven't been too impressed with it so far, but this episode definitely redeems this season. The plot twists were great, but not too far off course like some previous episodes. And for Bree to finally have found out what happened...thats just so wonderful. It was about time. Every week I had my fingers crossed that she would finally figure out what a jerk George was. I was on the edge of my seat the whole time. I just can't wait to see what unfolds in the story next week. This is how a show should be. At the end of every episode it keeps you wanting more and wishing it was next week already. A+ to the writers on this one.
  • Everyone starts to learn the truth and the results are a bit shocking!

    8.9
    "Great"
    Rule number one - never stalk someone who belongs to the NRA! I loved that scene! I never imagined that Bree would have the dark side that let George go at the end. I always thought she would 'do the right thing' and curse herself for it later - I loved that she didn't. I'm not big on religion or nuns so the one bothering Gaby is more than a little on my nerves. I can't imagine that she is as interested in Carlos's soul than his cash (and car) donations. And poor Susan. To be so needy, at her age, for a father she never knew she had - so sad. She should just let it go - he has. I love this show!!
  • I was on the edge of my seat once again. I felt sorry for Susan but looking forward to seeing what happens next with deal ol' Dad. The situation with the pharmacist is exciting as well.

    9.0
    "Superb"
    I missed a few episodes so I'm happy to get back on track with the "ladies." Lynette seems to really enjoy being a "working girl" again and Susan is making some headway with meeting her Dad. Carlos seems to have found his way back to God and Bree was so shocked to find out what really happened to her husband. Can't wait till next week!
  • Gabrielle found her match, Susan found her father, Lynette found her schemes once again backfired, and Bree found the truth.....

    9.6
    "Superb"
    I LOVED this episode. Gabrielle, Carlos and the nun were fun. It seems Gabs has finally met her match.



    Susan didn't annoy me. Maybe its because I never understood Susan and Mike. It was good to see her obsess over someone other then plumber boy.



    Lynette. Lynette. Lynette. When are you gonna realize that your little scemes never end well? Only bad things happen. You remember the mouse? Or what happened when you left your kids and drove off? Or maybe even the whole kidnapping plot...didn't the guy get maced? You see, never end well. Now the already over extened Lynette has gotten promoted. Well there goes her personal life.



    And finally, Bree. The last five minutes as promised were amazing. Then again most stuff with Bree during this ep were great. Bree with shotgun...tee heee. The last scene between Bree and George was very well done. She finally found out that George killed Rex. Yeah, it was a great scene. Now she has to deal with the repercussions, as well as a very angry and dangerous son. (You do remember his threat during season 1)



    Definetly the best episode this season.
  • Several truths come out tonight.

    9.5
    "Superb"
    Tonight's episode of Desperate Housewives was great. The only storyline of the episode that I didn't like that much dealt with Susan meeting her birth father at his feedstore. Granted that I'm sure finding out that you have a grown child out of wedlock, I find him having a heart attack a stretch, even though it could possibly happen. However, the only part of this storyline, was how Susan didn't out her father to his wife when she walked into hospital room, she only introduced herself to the wife as his gaurdian angel.



    On to the two storylines that I'm having somewhat mixed feelings about: Gabby and Carlos, and Lynette at work. In a way I was glad to see Lynette have a good storyline, with one of her schemes backfiring badly in her face, but it came as a result of numerous people getting layed off because of her actions, causing me to not be happy about the cause and affect of what she did. I really hope in the coming episodes that she realizes that her butting in and scheming more than likely gets the results that she doesn't like and that she and ultimately others will have to pay for what she does. With Gabby and Carlos, I think that the only reason why I have mixed feeling towards it is due the religious part of it. And as for Carlos, good for him for wanting to become a changed man, but having he and Gabby switch roles on the relationship front, I'm not enjoying it that much. Granted it's nice to have her be on the recieving end of the jealously when it comes to Carlos working religiously with the nun, but I must say that the scene with Gabby and the nun was pretty good, because it appears that the nun has a sinister side. I must say that I find it somewhat humorous that the nun has Gabby figured out when it comes to her enjoying the material things in life and is on the easy side when it comes to love. I have a feeling that next week's episode will most likely sway me one way or the other on my feelings towards this storyline.



    Now, on to my most favorite storyline of the night: Bree finally finding out that George killed Rex. I must say that I was extremely happy for that bit of information finally coming to light, one for finally clearing Bree for the crime, and two, it finally shows that Bree couldn't let that bit of info go, like how she told George she could. I really enjoyed how Marcia Cross portrayed Bree tonight, because the viewers finally see that Bree is human like everybody else, not just some Stepford Wife who was perfect at everything and never showed emotion.



    In all, this was one edge of your seat episode, in my opinion. It was interesting to see how many truths came out tonight, because those truths kept me on the edge of my seat for the entire hour. I'm really looking forward to next week's installment.
  • There better be a hot cat fight between Gaby and the nun next week.

    9.7
    "Superb"
    This was a VERY good episode. Probably the best of the season. I enjoyed it very much, especially.



    - Carlos's over zealous Christianity.

    - The ending with Bree. . . WOW

    - Lynette catching that skank Nina with the secretary.

    - Gaby fighting with the nun... there better be a catfight next week.

    - Susan meeting her fazha... although that was the least interesting part of the night.

    - The poker game! "NINA" hahaha this was a great scene.



    It was great to see them all together again. The best scenes are the ones when the Desperate Housewives are talking with each other and interacting. I can't wait til next weeks episode.
  • Another great episode of Desperate Housewives.

    9.2
    "Superb"
    Another great episode of Desperate Housewives.



    Despite her attempts to break it off with George, Bree continues to be hounded by his prescence. After she finds out that it was him who pushed Dr. Goldfine off the bridge, she calls the cops on his ass. He then threatens to kill himself by taking pills, but Bree finds out (FINALLY) that it was George who poisoned Rex last season and killed him. Bree wants the truth from George, but even after he gives it to her and admits to murdering Rex, she does not call an ambulance and lets him die.



    Meanwhile Lynette stands up to her boss Nina and after finding out that she fired a guy after having sex with him, convinces him to file charges against her. He ends up suing the company and causes Nina to be fired. Now, she'll have to handle her position, something that has sucked Nina dry over the years and turned her into the b*tch she's projected as.



    Also, Gabrielle is surprised when Carlos is finally released from prison on an early parole. However, she finds he is a "changed" man, after been seduced by a nun (she scares me .... seriously) who makes him "see the light." After he agrees to give his sports car to charity, Gabrielle intervenes with sex ... and also finds out that the nun is not all she seems. She's secretly trying to get Carlos to annul his marriage with Gabrielle, but she won't go down without a fight.



    Finally, Susan confronts her father at the store he runs and spills the beans, giving him a heart attack. At the hospital he tells her that he paid her mother a large sum of money to keep it all quiet all those years back and that he views Susan as a mistake .... and doesn't want anything to do with her. His wife walks in, but instead of telling her his secret Susan covers for him and keeps it. She also whispers that she won't give up on their relationship.



    Good episode.

  • Susan meets her dad, Bree meets the truth, Lynette meets comeuppance and Gabrielle meets her match.

    9.6
    "Superb"
    WOW. Just...WOW what a week all around.



    Finally, Lynette gets a decent plot and damn it's good. It looked like just another in the seemingly endless matches with her boss but it's nice to see how Lynette's scheming finally blows up with major consequences. I loved the shock on her face as she realized that idiot worker actually had the brains to threathen the lawsuit and I loved the talk from Joley explaining why she was such a bitch and that Lynette's workload just increased tenfold. I do hope that her actions putting so many people out of work may mean Lynette finally realizes how selfish she can be.



    Then we get to Susan and how painful it is for her to finally meet her father but he wants nothing to do with her. I would have been fine with it ending there but it looks to continue for a while which I'm not sure about but it's a nice twist to her character.



    The twist in Carlos was pretty interesting but I loved the bigger twist that the nun appears to have a sinister side to herself. Normally, I'd say the fact she's a nun means she won't do anything but with this show who knows? It is nice to finally see someone matching Gabrielle in conniving and minipulation, which promises some fun, especially as Gabby can't just publicly attack a nun.



    And finally the end of the Bree/George saga and damn did it pay off. Marcia Cross was incredible in the scenes of Bree realizing how horrible and twisted George was, on the verge of finally having the breakdown we've all expected. And then the amazing conclusion as she lets George die thinking he's getting help and in love with her. I can't wait to see Bree deal with the police on this, not to mention Andrew.



    So one of the best episodes yet with great complications to all the ladies' lives and the promise of even more to come.
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