Desperate Housewives

Season 2 Episode 8

The Sun Won't Set

Aired Sunday 9:00 PM Nov 20, 2005 on ABC
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All of Wisteria Lane is panicked by a burglar loose in the neighborhood; a neighborhood watch committee is formed; Bree finds out some disturbing information about George; Sophie (guest star Lesley Ann Warren) and Morty (guest star Bob Newhart) get married; at the wedding, Susan learns who her real father is and is determined to find him.moreless

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  • Alright one.

    OH MY GOD. Straight up I am sick to death of Mike. YES you really disliked what Susan did, and Susan was completely justified but to the other their actions aren't. Jesus. Susan has apologised numerous times and I think she's done it enough. And Mike just throwing that crap at her was completely rude. Maybe that's where you were always going to throw it but you tell a person before you throw gunk at them. And he kept doing it.

    You want nothing to do with her for reasons that are semi-stupid because she was justified if he really cares to think about it,

    I also think Tom could do to listen to Lynette. She was stay at home a lot longer than he was, and he wasn't even there every day anyway with his travel. He could do with a bit of listening. Especially to do with playing late in the street. But Lynette could also be more supportive of his fathering style. But he also needs to respect that she set up structure and rules (albeit never implemented them but neither does Tom) and now he comes in and does what he wants and tells Lynette off every time she tries to be a mother.

    I don't really get why Bree is so stupid to not believe anything is wrong with George. He's acted like a creep to her, he snaps about the ring etc. Why would a stranger show up to say something to you anyway.. they had no reason to track you down, they didn't ask for money or anything which is the only reason to ask. I like that she did come to this realisation eventually but gave in too easily to George's explanation. I'm glad she did realise by the end. George you creep.

    Susan's mother is the worst damn thing on the show next to Phyllis. When she first showed up she was horrible and her this episode was just crap! She is annoying as hell and treats Susan like crap. And once again Susan is made to look bad like asking about her birth father after being lied to her ENTIRE life about where she came from is a bad thing. Her mother should be feeling bad. And to do it in front of everyone. And the man lived across town her ENTIRE life! I'd be effing fuming if I was Susan and her mother owes her what 30years of time without a father. And ok maybe the man wanted nothing to do with her but Susan had a right to know and tried to approach him sooner.moreless
  • good

    i liked this episode of desperate housewives i felt so sorry for gaby when she let go of the bloon my heart broke for her, the bree stuff was also good this week george is so scary and the actor that plays him is great, the susan stuff wasnt that great but it was nice to see sophie and morty back on the screen, the lynette was was also pretty ok but not spectacular overall a good episode of housewivesmoreless
  • Acá confirmamos que no sabemos lo que tenemos hasta que ya no está con nosotros.

    Primero: es absolutamente triste saber que Gabrielle perdió al bebe, ya que estoy seguro hubiera sido una mamá muy buena, y muy interesante mostrar la reacción de Carlos que fué el que más quiso que el bebe se concibiera. Bree termina rompiendo su prematuro y arriesgado compromiso con George, no puedo esperar hasta que se dé cuenta de que George mató a Rex y al consejero matrimonial de los van de Kamp. La mamá de Susan cada vez que aparece en escena nos muestra el porqué Susan es así de disparatada y perdida muchas veces, pero lamento mucho ver tood el desprecio que le hace Mike a ella cada vez que tiene la oportunidad. Y Lynette cumple su objetivo de mostrarle a Tom que más sabe el diablo por viejo, que por diablo.moreless
  • Another great episode from our favourite houswives.

    This episode has got to be another one of the best so far this season, it totally was as juicy as the season one material. The residents of Wisteria Lane form a neighbourhood watch committee after being frightened because of the recent burglary. Bree is visited by George's former fiancée, who tells her how crazy George is, but Bree refuses to believe it and asks her to leave. Gabrielle has a man Carlos sent from prison, who she thinks is there to protect her, sitting on her porch and he won’t leave. She offers him $1000, which he accepts and asks if they could go to the bank to cash it. She gets in his car, with no door handles or window buttons and he tells her that Carlos didn't send him to protect her. Sophie and Morty get married and at the wedding, Sophie reveals to Susan the truth about her real father and Susan runs out determined to find him. Bree and George are having dinner, and they argue about Bree wearing the engagement ring. An old male friend of Bree's comes over and they begin to chat, much jealousy flares in George, an when he and Bree dance, George yells at her to put on the ring, then tries to force it on her hand, the tries to hit Bree's friend. The ring falls on the floor and Bree says she doesn't think they're engaged anymore. Gabrielle gets out of the car, and as the man gets something from the trunk, she kicks off her heels and tries to run for it. When the man calls out to her, she turns to see him holding a red balloon. Carlos had sent him to help her with her grief. This episode was fantastic, they keep getting better and better.moreless
  • Your Loss Written by Jenna Bans Directed by Stephen Cragg


    “Invisible before birth are all beings and after death, invisible again. They are seen between two unseens. Why in this truth do we find sorrow?” – The Bhagavad-Gita.

    Something of a painfully true statement, miscarriage is one of the greatest heartaches that many women have gone through, including two people close to me. Grief is something we all deal with in a different manner. While some people are open with theirs, others are not.

    Given the kind of person Gabrielle is, her denial over feelings of loss are believable, even if the writing on this episode feels a little strained. Her first reaction is to blow off her friends when they try to offer their support and strangely enough, they actually keep their distance for the rest of the episode, which is a shame because this episode really could’ve benefited from their support and it seems they gave up too easily on helping Gabrielle dealing with her loss.

    Despite her caustic comments even I knew that Gabrielle was grieving privately. She may be manipulative and a complete bitch at times, but even I know that she’s not entirely made of stone. Carlos’ method of grieving however made for a fun exchange between him and his wife but given the fact he’s still banged up in the tame version of Oz, we needed another way of having Gabrielle let rip.

    Enter Hector, a completely muscular and rather tattooed up, ex-convict pal of Carlos’ sent to mind Gabrielle, who does her best to get rid of him, including the obligatory bribery attempt which backfires. Even before we learned of his real purpose on Wisteria Lane, I liked the guy, although his comments about Carlos being perceptive were way off the mark. There’s also an amusing scene where Hector notes Gaby’s love of shopping that’s rather to what Mama Solis pointed in “Come In, Stranger”.

    The scene in the car with Gabrielle seemingly in peril was an okay fake-out. We don’t necessarily know that much about Hector, though obviously he’s suffered his own share of grief in order to help Gaby come to terms with her own. At first this scene felt rather cheesy but a second viewing takes the cringe factor off.

    Not only did Gabrielle to admit her grief for her unborn baby but she also managed to identify Caleb after Mike catches and police arrest him. Caleb aside, Betty isn’t really doing herself any favours by denying her son didn’t play a part in Gaby losing her baby to Matthew. Although I like Alfre Woodard, this wasn’t Betty’s best outing and even Matthew didn’t have much of interest to do besides secretly meeting Danielle.

    Besides his heroics, Mike spends most his time trying to blow Susan off as well. He refuses to go to Sophie’s wedding with her and does his best to be abrasive around her, although he does give her vital information that Susan questioning her lineage. After two great episodes, Teri Hatcher is again relegated to hammy overacting as Susan’s quest to learn more about her father does little to endear her or Sophie.

    To be honest, I wasn’t exactly bursting the seems to learns about Susan’s parentage so the revelation of Sophie lying about Susan’s dad being a marine and the truth of him being Sophie’s former boss didn’t excite even if it was better to listen to than Morty’s half baked analogy. So Sophie nearly wrecked someone else’s marriage and didn’t want Susan to ruin her wedding day but told her the truth for all to hear? Yeah, smart move there. Susan’s reaction was childish and tiresome to watch but it was hardly far fetched either though. That being said, this is one personal drama we could’ve done without for the time being.

    More personal drama in this episode, we have Tom and Lynette engaged in battle of how to look after terror twins Porter and Preston as well teaching them not to talk to strangers. I felt bad for Tom, he really trying his best to be a good stay at home parent and to be honest, he’s a little better at it than Lynette was last season. He taught the boys the vital protocol for dealing with strangers and they recited back to him like experts in training. How was he supposed to know that Lynette would be right and it would go in one ear and out the other? Also who would be stupid enough to want to snatch those kids?

    Well apparently Lynette’s co-worker Stu is when he insanely decides to aid Lynette in her quest to prove Tom wrong and ends up at the receiving end of a taser wielding Karen McClusky, whose return is a highlight in a surprisingly not as involving episode and while this plot outdid Susan’s, we’ve had better ones with the Scavo clan this season.

    Thankfully at least one arc came to be as good as Gaby’s this hour and it was of course Bree’s as George’s hold on her is continuing to loosen and it’s not before time too. His attitude over her not wearing his engagement ring irks Bree as does a visit from an ex-girlfriend of George’s who warns Bree of his possessive. Bree stupidly buys into his lie of his former fiancée being mentally unstable, even though you can see her questioning her feelings for the psychotic pharmacist.

    It isn’t until a nasty run in with Bree’s ex boyfriend Ty does she finally see George’s true colours and calls off the engagement. George doesn’t take this well and reacts by burning Ty’s car but being optimistic, George’s stay on Wisteria Lane is about to become a lot shorter.

    Also in “The Sun Won’t Set”

    Housewife of the week: This time around it’s Betty as we get some fine examples of her piano skills which she puts to good use during a neighbourhood watch meeting, which is the second reminder of 1x05’s “Come In, Stranger”.

    Karen: “We were taking a vote”

    Matthew (re Betty): “She was a concert pianist”.

    We got the apple logo again for opening credits. That’s two episodes in a row this season that this has happened.

    Carlos: “You just lost a baby”

    Gabrielle: “I grieve differently”.

    Tom (re eyes): “The two in the front work just fine”

    Lynette: “Really, where’s Penny?”

    Bree said the cover of the newspaper where George announced their engagement had a story of floods in Sri Lanka. A little strange for a local paper, wouldn’t it be?

    Sophie: “Do we have to do this now? You are ruining my wedding rehearsal”

    Susan: “You’ve been married four times; I think you got it down”.

    Morty (re Sophie): “Yes I know what I’m getting myself into”.

    Susan thought her father was Harrison Ross, a marine. Her real dad is Addison Prudy. She also mentioned to Mike about her memoirs from last episode. Will we see that?

    Hector (re Carlos): “He’s a perceptive man”

    Gabrielle: “He thought I was having an affair with two gay guys”.

    We saw the new Caleb in this episode played by Nashawn Kearse.

    Gabrielle: “You’re not gonna kill me?”

    Hector: “Hadn’t planned on it”.

    Gabby was going to name her child Charlie if it was a boy and Aurora if it was a girl. Nice enough names.

    No Andrew, Zach, Paul, Edie or Karl this week. Julie had no dialogue as well.

    The episode’s title is rather appropriate as it begins and ends during the night.

    George: “I’m sorry, I just, we’re engaged”

    Bree: “See the thing is, I don’t think we are anymore”.

    Its seven weeks since “One Wonderful Day”. Surely more time would’ve passed since then.

    What should have been a reasonably competent episode following last week’s unforgettable instalment is a little too anticlimactic and disappointing. Although “The Sun Won’t Set” has some nice moments, it lacks the sparks of previous instalments and is possibly the first disappointing hour of Season Two so far.

Bob Newhart

Bob Newhart


Guest Star

Danny Trejo

Danny Trejo

Hector Ramos

Guest Star

Mia Wesley

Mia Wesley

Leila Mitzman

Guest Star

Lesley Ann Warren

Lesley Ann Warren

Sophie Bremmer

Recurring Role

Kathryn Joosten

Kathryn Joosten

Karen McCluskey

Recurring Role

Pat Crawford Brown

Pat Crawford Brown

Ida Greenberg

Recurring Role

Trivia, Notes, Quotes and Allusions


  • TRIVIA (4)

    • Error: In the scene where Gabrielle leaves the house to go shopping and sees the man on her porch she gasps and slams the door. Then she asked what he was doing there and closes the door again.

    • In the scene where Bree finds the wedding announcement George put in the newspaper, she is cutting out a coupon for Siesta King. This is where Gabrielle worked in season one.

    • The medications on the altered prescription record George shows Bree are fluoxetine (generic Prozac™) and risperdone, an antipsychotic. However, the respective milligram strengths (100 mg and 250 mg) are completely unrealistic. Fluoxetine comes in 10, 20, and 40 mg daily dosage forms, and a 90 mg weekly form. Risperdone comes in 0.25, 0.5, 1, 2, 3, and 4 mg dosages.

    • If Gabrielle would have had a girl, she would have named her Aurora. And if she had had a boy, his name would have been Charlie.

  • QUOTES (10)

    • Lynette: I've got an important assignment for you.
      Stu: Great. I'm really ready to take on more responsibility around here.
      Lynette: Yeah, I applaud that, but what I for you to help me prove a point to my husband.
      Stu: Huh, you wanna make him jealous.
      Lynette: Uh, no (chuckles). Actually (takes out some candy) I need you to kidnap my children!

    • Tom: Lynette, I can keep my children alive. When you left this morning, there were four. When you came home, there were still four. When you come home and there are only three, then you get to lecture me.

    • Mary Alice: Once they've suffered a miscarriage, some women sit alone in the dark for hours. They refuse to go out in the light of day, afraid to face the possibility that life will go on. They hold onto reminders of their unborn child and dream of what might have been. Yes, this is how some women react when they've suffered such a loss. Gabrielle Solis was not one of those women.

    • George: I need to cut in.
      Bree: George, would you please sit down? You're being rude.
      Ty: Am I in the middle of something?
      George: Well, at least put on the ring.
      Bree: No. George, I don't want to.
      (George grabs Bree's hand)
      George: We are engaged. You have to wear it!
      Ty: Hey, knock it off, man.
      Bree: George, stop it.
      (Goerge punches Ty)
      George: I'm sorry. I just, we're engaged.
      Bree: See, the thing is, I don't think we are anymore.
      George: Bree.
      Bree: Please, you should go.
      Ty: I'm really sorry.

    • Sophie: Do you have to do this now? You are ruining my wedding rehearsal.
      Susan: You've been married four times, I think you've got it down.

    • Gabrielle: This is stupid. I didn't even want this baby.
      Hector: Yeah.
      Gabrielle: And I would've been a terrible mother.
      Hector: If you say so.
      Gabrielle: If it was a boy, I was gonna name it Charlie.
      Hector: Yeah?
      Gabrielle: And a girl, Aurora.
      Hector: Those are nice names.
      Gabrielle: Thank you.

    • Mary Alice: In a world full of darkness, we all need some kind of light. (Shot of Gabrielle affirming Caleb as the man who broke into her house.) Whether it's a great flame that shows us how to win back what we've lost. (Shot of Ted's car burning as George watches) Or a powerful beacon intended to scare away potential monsters. (Shot of Tom watching his kids play as Karen McClusky's lights shine from across the street.) Or a few glowing bulbs that reveal to us the hidden truths of our past. (Shot of Susan watching her birth father close up shop for the night.) We all need something to help us get through the night ( Shot of Caleb is being driven off in custody) Even if it's just the tiniest glimmer of hope (Caleb looks at Betty, and she motions that he should keep quiet)

    • Mrs. McClusky: (to Lynnette) You wouldn't put a price on your child's safety? You probably would.

    • Gabrielle: (to Carlos) People grieve in different ways. I go shopping and you rip out toilets.

    • Gabrielle: You're not going to kill me?
      Hector: Hadn't crossed my mind. And if I was, certainly not with a balloon. It would take too long.

  • NOTES (6)

    • This episode marks the first appearance by NaShawn Kearse as Caleb Applewhite. Scenes originally featuring Page Kennedy were re-shot.

    • Danny Trejo also worked with Ricardo Chavira in the episode "George's Extreme Makeover: Holmes Edition" of "George Lopez".

    • Due to time constraints, the opening credits were cut for time.

    • Even though they are credited, Nicollette Sheridan (Edie Britt), Mark Moses (Paul Young), Cody Kasch (Zach Young), Shawn Pyfrom (Andrew Van De Kamp), Zane Huett (Parker Scavo) and Richard Burgi (Karl Mayer) do not appear in this episode.

    • This episode confirms that Gabrielle (Eva Longoria) had a miscarriage with her baby after falling down the stairs in the previous episode after a home invasion.

    • In this episode Susan discovers that her father is not a dead war hero, but is alive and has been living across town her whole life.