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    starfire2_2

    [41]Oct 23, 2010
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    AllanHarvey1 wrote:

    On the subject of Rose. I miss rose like crazy.. she will always be my favorite companion. But she should never come back Rose was Tennants and they belonged together even if it was his crazy half human clone thingy.



    Hay I'm a toltel 10/Rose fan. And I don't think she should be back with-out 10 so that just meens when they bring BP in for a guest then they have to bring in DT to. Yahhhh.

    Even you Rose haters would have to say it would be worth it to see Rose back if we got 10-DT back for an epsoide.
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    jwgrlrrajn

    [42]Oct 23, 2010
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    I don't know, some people have a rabid enough hatred for the character to where they would hate having Tenth back if it meant having to see Rose again.


    I'm not one of them. I enjoyed her character for the time she was on the show, although I don't think she would have anything to add to the show if she was brought back now.

    Edited on 10/23/2010 7:32am
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    exactimondi

    [43]Nov 7, 2010
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    David Tennant will always be my fave doctor and the most hilarious but Matt Smith is still very good. He is the one who is making me really feel like trying Fish fingers and custard after all.

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    Cassandra_Elise

    [44]Nov 9, 2010
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    If we're comparing just David and Matt, then David all the way. He could deliver every emotion under the sun from anger and angst to childlike glee and wonderment. Plus, both David and Chris Eccleston really captured the feel of a 900+ Timelord. You could see the long, lonely years in their eyes. You could feel the weight of the universe on their shoulders. Matt makes a comment about being old and alone, and... I don't buy it. It's like watching a fanboy roleplay the Doctor. This isn't entirely Matt's fault. He's young--super, super young. In time, with more experience, he might get the whole ancient Timelord thing down, but for now, he seems a bit out of place.


    As for being "more alien," it seems a bit odd to me that a Timelord that's spent all of his adult life with humans would suddenly not understand anything about them. Bill Hartnell's Doctor, I can understand it. Ian and Barbara were his first human companions. He had no previous encounters with the human race. But why has Eleven suddenly regressed? Did his regeneration erase all of his experiences with human beings?

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    jwgrlrrajn

    [45]Nov 9, 2010
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    While I can agree with you there on some points,you have to remember that Sixth was psychotic upon regeneration whereas Fifth wasn't. It doesn't break my suspension of disbelief that Eleventh would act more alien than Tenth.
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    PhilipHilario

    [46]Nov 10, 2010
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    it's tennant for me. he is really a tough act to follow. yeah, matt smith is great, but tennant just grew on me. i'd give matt smith a chance though. it was one season after all.

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    Cassandra_Elise

    [47]Nov 10, 2010
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    jwgrlrrajn wrote:
    While I can agree with you there on some points,you have to remember that Sixth was psychotic upon regeneration whereas Fifth wasn't. It doesn't break my suspension of disbelief that Eleventh would act more alien than Tenth.


    Heh, I tend to ignore Sixth's run... Tongue out

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    jwgrlrrajn

    [48]Nov 11, 2010
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    You know, I saw the first serial with Sixth and actually kind of enjoyed it. Granted, the part where he tried to strangle Peri was kind of over the top, but I found the Doctor's personality rather amusing.
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    BenGirl16

    [49]Dec 15, 2010
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    Hey guys! Im new to Doctor Who, i only started watching it maybe a month or so ago. The very first episode I saw was "Lodger" with Matt Smitt. I had no idea what was going on but i thought he was hilarious, so obviously alien the way he tries (and fails) to act human. The second episode I saw was "the Lonly Child" or the lone child, whatever, with CE. I didn't like him so much. Don't get me wrong, he was great and (im searching for the right word here...) knowing? wise? well anyways...I kept on, then when David Tennant came in I laughed histaricly. (i remebrd him from "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire") "The Christmas Invasion" was awesome! It was so funny when he's on the balcony talking about this great impending doom while he's in the middle of passing out again, and he reaches into his pocket and calmly asks why theres an apple in his dressing robe ("The important thing is-why is there an apple in my dressing robe?" "What he gets hungry in his sleep?" "Sometimes,") my favrote part.


    So, in summary, CE was kind of boring to me, strong, I guess, persistant; MS was funny, alien (literaly ), and kind of clueless; and I LOVE David! He's funny, protective (so was CE but in a different way), actually knows what he's doing, and I like his coat and hair (he looks good with glasses, too)


    I am honestly in love with him


    Now, as for the whole 'Rose coming back with the half human (DT) doctor' thing, I am all for it (hmm...I wonder if she gave him a name? Or did he tell her his real name?) It's good because DT keeps aging (no offence) so he cud play the clone forever (not that he should, could, or would, but...) The only question is, how would they come back? WHY would they come back?

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    Princess_Pinky

    [50]Dec 15, 2010
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    Cassandra_Elise wrote:
    If we're comparing just David and Matt, then David all the way. He could deliver every emotion under the sun from anger and angst to childlike glee and wonderment. Plus, both David and Chris Eccleston really captured the feel of a 900+ Timelord. You could see the long, lonely years in their eyes. You could feel the weight of the universe on their shoulders. Matt makes a comment about being old and alone, and... I don't buy it. It's like watching a fanboy roleplay the Doctor. This isn't entirely Matt's fault. He's young--super, super young. In time, with more experience, he might get the whole ancient Timelord thing down, but for now, he seems a bit out of place.


    Really? I've always felt that Matt is spot on at playing an old man trapped in a young man's body, much better at it than CE or DT. Although for me, on acting talent alone, it's no contest, DT wins (even out of all three), he had such an energetic and young style. He was constantly falling in love, which I also think gave me the impression of someone who was much younger. (For example, there's a parallel between Ten appearing from Reinette's childhood throughout heryoung adulthood and Eleven appearing in Amy's childhood and throughout her young adulthood.When Reinette kissed Ten, heeasily fell for her and returned her affection, wheras with Amy, Eleven was totallyfreaked out because he still saw her as a little girl instead of the young woman she'd become and repeatedly resisted her. That really stood out tome.) This wasn't always the case, such as in the case with Jenny, but on a whole, I don't know...I've just been incredibly impressed with the old man trapped deep inside Eleven. *shrug*

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    Now, as for the whole 'Rose coming back with the half human (DT) doctor' thing, I am all for it (hmm...I wonder if she gave him a name? Or did he tell her his real name?)


    I always figured 10.5 probably took on the human aliasThe Doctoralways uses: John Smith.

    Edited on 12/15/2010 9:10am
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    jwgrlrrajn

    [51]Dec 15, 2010
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    Princess_Pinky wrote:
    BenGirl16 wrote:

    Now, as for the whole 'Rose coming back with the half human (DT) doctor' thing, I am all for it (hmm...I wonder if she gave him a name? Or did he tell her his real name?)



    I always figured 10.5 probably took on the human alias The Doctor always uses: John Smith.


    Actually, there's a cute little fan theory about this that I found on tvtropes.

    The human Dr Who from the movies as played by Peter Cushing is 10.5

    After "Journey's End," he adopts a human name ("Dr John Who" perhaps?) and dedicates himself to building/growing a new TARDIS so that he'll be able to travel in space and time again. He marries Rose and they have kids and then grandkids. Eventually Dr Who gets old and starts to look like Peter Cushing. Unfortunately, Rose passes away before the new TARDIS is ready, but at least Dr Who is able to show it off to his granddaughters: Barbara and Susan.
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    BenGirl16

    [52]Dec 18, 2010
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    Wow! That is both happy and sad (sad because Rose dies). I guess that settles it then...and now...I have nothing more to say

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    pferreira86

    [53]Dec 19, 2010
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    jwgrlrrajn wrote:
    Princess_Pinky wrote:
    BenGirl16 wrote:


    Now, as for the whole 'Rose coming back with the half human (DT) doctor' thing, I am all for it (hmm...I wonder if she gave him a name? Or did he tell her his real name?)



    I always figured 10.5 probably took on the human alias The Doctor always uses: John Smith.


    Actually, there's a cute little fan theory about this that I found on tvtropes. The human Dr Who from the movies as played by Peter Cushing is 10.5 After "Journey's End," he adopts a human name ("Dr John Who" perhaps?) and dedicates himself to building/growing a new TARDIS so that he'll be able to travel in space and time again. He marries Rose and they have kids and then grandkids. Eventually Dr Who gets old and starts to look like Peter Cushing. Unfortunately, Rose passes away before the new TARDIS is ready, but at least Dr Who is able to show it off to his granddaughters: Barbara and Susan.
    That's right, in the 1960s! Hang on...I thought Rose went back to that parallel Earth in 2008 not the past? Undecided


    No, I don't think that theory quite works although I could be wrong.

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    BenGirl16

    [54]Dec 20, 2010
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    They did go to a parellel world. Where did you get the past from? Im so confused...

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    hot_babe101

    [55]Dec 20, 2010
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    Obviously, Tennant was better.


    But i love the way Smith bring a kooky, qwirky vibe to the table. Hes more of an alien then Tennant or any of the other Doctors ever were, and thats what i love about him.


    The Doctor is an alien, Matt Smith show that.

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    BenGirl16

    [56]Dec 22, 2010
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    I know, it's like each one has a different type of crazy. CE would probably have to be ''madness'', David has ADOS (''Attention Deffesite-Oo Shiny'' copyright Alex Renolds (she has ADD so its not an insult I swear)) because of how easily he's distracted and he loves yelling out random things, the best word for Matt's crazy I think is ''lunicy''. Yup lunitic sounds right, he loves thinking out loud, he never thinks about what he's going to say so he corrects himself a lot. I absolutly love David, but Matt is coming along well.

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    abba321

    [57]Dec 29, 2010
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    Smith is a fine actor and deserves better. There is a big problem with Who since he came on, not him personally but it is being characterized in the Smith version of the Doctor, and making him look bad.


    1- The Doctor is a moron now.


    He proves it every episode by saying or doing something stupid, pointless, or ineffective. I was ignoring it as a plot point when he got the whole crew lost in the bowels of a weeping-angel ship, and figured they needed to give Amy her moment when he almost killed the space-whale, but the isometric controls thing in the xmas special is just too much. Not only does he come off like a complete idiot during the initial conversation... ok maybe that was for comic relief... but then he wastes half the episode trying to change the past only to be undone by his own lack of foresight on the controls. The Tennant Doctor was so brilliant, that was his appeal, he was a shining light in the darkness. The Smith Doctor just fumbles his way through each episode blindfolded and with a stupid look on his face.


    2- You have to be fan to like it now


    They have gone off the deep-end with some scenes, like the sleigh-ride scene, or singing to the air-shark. If you're not already a fan of Who for at least a few years, this kind of stuff is too far out there to identify with. Usually the companion bridges that gap to the viewer. In this iteration we seem to be alone with the doctor and his latest alien buddies every episode, while Amy and Rory play some other game on their own. So long common denominator. I was counting on it to try to bring some of my non-who fan friends to the show, but it will not happen at this rate, and I fear it will never happen if Smith stays on for more than a season or 2 tops. Again, not him personally, but this new Doctor they made up for him. The only way I can see it changing is if they replace Smith and rethink the doctor again for some new guy.

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    Leaf_on_Winds

    [58]Jan 1, 2011
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    I've only watched the new doctors but wanted to chip in.

    abba321
    I Agree, he is much sillier now and the show is less approachable for someone just to pick up. I figure that once Smith gets some good episodes/experiences behind him he'll mature a little (and give us glimpses of the pain/loneliness which I liked about Tennant's Doctor).

    The other thing I liked about the 10th Doctor were the ways the companions kinda checked him, and when they were being cheeky or disagreeing with the Doctor, it seemed like they respected him. Smith's Doctor seems like just an interesting diversion for Pond rather than as someone who people look to when humanity needs saving. That is why I just can't see him as better than Tennant's Doctor. Until I can come up with a list of his episodes which I like more than Tennant's, that wont change.

    If it helps, My Top 5 episodes in no particular order: Girl in the Fireplace, Human Nature/Family of Blood, Blink, Fires of Pompeii, The End of Time
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    BenGirl16

    [59]Jan 5, 2011
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    I really liked Smith and Jones, Doctor's Daughter, and 42 aswell as the ones you said (also in no particular order). And I agree, Tennant was more responsible, Smith is a goofball.



    I miss David Tennant!!!

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    BenGirl16

    [60]Jan 5, 2011
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    But given enough time, maybe Smith's Doctor will mature. Then I'll consider accepting him as my neeeew doctor. But Tennant will forever be My Doctor!

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