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I started a poll merely out of curiosity – like I wrote in the actual post, there didn't seem to be much discussion of current episodes going on, nor much posting on the community; I know, they were off one week, and maybe there was some confusion about the air dates, then there was your Thanksgiving, Black Friday, everybody started to be troubled about christmas presents and Holidays, and you forgot about your favourite eco-friendly vampire...

Or maybe not, and you purposely saved the energy and left the show turned off? Maybe you rather lit a candle and turned to your leather-bound Bram-Stoker-Collector's edition?

I was really interested on the show in the beginning; I thought Jonathan Rhys Meyers was really good in The Tudors, therefore I liked the idea of seeing him again in a historical setting, and as Dracula, why not. Then the first review of the pilot came, and...well, to keep it nice and short, we have to say it's a really new look on the Dracula-material. And that's actually one of the things I'm struggling with: Dracula not being Dracula, but posing as an american business man bringing clean energy to Victorian London (which, as I read it first, made me think of The man who fell to earth....). I could do with Van Helsing being an ally, with having some weird Order of the Dragon messing around, but I think it's that modern business stuff that keeps me away... Plus, I found it difficult to keep track of people's intentions – there's the Mina/Harker-thing, which is interesting, but those rapidly dying/killing company people I fail to identify with name, rank and allegiance, I kind of got lost in that storyline.

As a result, I watched the first three episodes, finding myself reading news while watching the fourth... As hilarious as the new approach sounded, there didn't seem to be much of a self-irony to live up to it. On my side, I didn't really know what to make of it.

Telling from the poll (and considering the fact that you're more inclined to answer to a Dracula-poll if you're already interested in the show) I'd say the leading answer is a "I'm gonna look into it from time to time". Some of you really seem to love the show, and some not even only because of Jonathan Rhys-Meyers.

So, here's your discussion (I hope) – how did you feel about it? Where your expectations met, and did you get entertained enough to keep going?

Is it worth another try? Should I take notes to get into the action again? Didn't I appreciate the creative, capitalism-critical approach enough?

Will the Mina/Harker/Dracula-storyline take more room and develop some energy of itself?

Or maybe you're more with the thought that they should've abandoned the Dracula-lore and started with a totally new vampire in the beginning, completely focusing on the energy-side?

Will it actually be worth the trouble? Are the ratings promising enough to keep the show around, or are we talking about an already undead thing here?


PS: This being my first post apart from the poll, I need to ask for your tolerance about my writing...I'm not a native speaker/writer, so please be mild with me ;-)
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I quite liked this show. And by liked I mean I just finished watching the whole season in two days. They kept the bones of the Dracula story, just changed the details.

I found a lot of the characters interesting. Greyson as a cover for Dracula was awesome. I'm obviously missing the funny side to the whole Dracula is a business man thing, because to me, it seems perfectly in character. But then I always credited him as being pretty smart and savvy, not just a B horror movie cliche.

I think one of the things I liked best about the show was the way each character was given some new traits that helped redefine their character. Mina trying to become a doctor was great. I love that she's not just sitting around waiting for Harker to come calling. Harker was probably the least changed character. Lucy's role was very good I think, but once again Lucy gets screwed over by everyone. I think apart from Drac himself, she's the character that always gets treated the worst. I know she didn't make great choices, but they made her plight much tougher in the series and it helps make her much more justifiable, and a lot more tragic. The fact they got Kate Mcgrath to play her just makes her perfect.

Maybe it was just me, but Alexander Greyson felt a little like Walt Disney when he was in his business man persona. But it could just be the accent.
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I loved this show. It was so beautfully filmed, more like a movie than a TV show. Sometimes it irritated me because it had soap operaish writing but for the most part I loved it and hope it comes back.
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Like it as good entertainment should be and Johnathan Rys-Myers ahhhh what can one sat So having said that I am sure there will be no second season cause many times I like something it does not return ;-)

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As much whisky as we see this vampire gulp down are you sure his true identity isn't Count Drunkula? Overall, though, it's actually an OK show.
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love this show gets better and more interesting every episode I just watched the last 2 one after another so good was on the edge of my seat a little. hope it comes back for another season as I want to own this.
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I think its pretty good. It doesn't meet the highest expectations or won't keep me wanting like a good mentalist episode but its worth the time to watch it. It does get more conformity as it runs its course and I have to admit I got confused as well. Then again.. I remember the high ranking series and their beginnings… Like Buffy.. OMG I thought it was horrible the first episodes but I stuck by it or Vampire diaries.. sheesh. Now I love it. The makers always need time to build the character and the plot, just like authors do. People often expect the first episode to blow them away and sometimes very sometimes first episodes do but mostly its all in the building. I find more often then not that second seasons are when it really starts.. I hope here this will be the case too
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Its Dracula, its got Jonathan Rhys Meyers, a new premise, so naturally I was going to check it out. It was a bit slow at first and I was'nt sure if the new idea was working for me but I stuck with it and as of ep9 - 'Four Roses' its a big improvement. The sub-plots felt more interconnected with the main story and the show felt like it was finally getting somewhere. It's a shame there's only one more episode to the season finale. If it is renewed then I hope the pace of the next series speeds up a bit. Overall, Dracula with a purpose has turned out to be more interesting than Dracula on a 'killfest.'
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Love this show! Hope very much it's renewed.
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There are some very fine actors in this show. Jonathan Rhys Meyers, Nonzo Anonzie, and Katie McGrath. It is hard to grab an audience at 10 p.m. on a Friday night without a DVR. The writing is good, but the pacing is deliberate and may be too slow for some people. The sub plots are almost as intricate as the main plot. There is very little gore for a series about Dracula, instead it is more about love, vengeance, and loss.
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Thanks for all your opinions! :-) It's good to hear some different views.
Searching for information about Dracula staying around for a 2nd Season or already running undead, I only found predictions (not good ones, I'm afraid) about the future, but nothing about an actual decision. Anybody else know more?

(Maybe slightly off-topic: This week I watched the new Jim-Jarmusch-movie, and it actually made me think of Dracula, when the main character – vampire Adam – was repairing his self-invented, eco-friendly power supply in his back yard :-D)
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Thanks for the encouragement! :-)
After reading all the comments from people who enjoy the show, I really think I should try it again, maybe it's got something to it which I missed before?! Got some catching up to do anyway, with the holidays and all....
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I love this show.. I just go with the flow, it's a new take on the origins and it's fresh in many ways. It's different and there is nothing wrong with that. Most importantly, I'm being entertained as I watch it which is most important no?
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While I suppose that I like the Legosi Dracula far and away of any other Dracula creation this show and JRM isn't bad. When a new show along these lines starts they really have to take big steps to plan a plot line and create something new around a legend and while rather far fetched it was a reasonable creation. They do hearken back to the legend in his reminisces so that helps to continue the legend. The Order of the Dragon pursuing him of course carries a big part of the plot and is intriguing as well. The really well done part is the setting in Victorian London and the production values are excellent bringing out the era perfectly. So while he would never replace Legosi in my book the show does a decent enough job with high production values and a decent plot line. I believe it has already been decided it will not be renewed so there is only likely to be one season anyway.
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Given the unmittgated silliness of some of the plot lines in the show, I find it highly entertaining. I also think it is fun to watch a Dracula show where I actually have no clue what is going to happen - since, again, the plots are so far from the norm, which makes it interesting to watch.

JRM is hands down always awesome, and I think the "Ammurrican" accent is deliberate - I have heard him speaking in other things he's done and I have to say, considering his natural Irish accent is really strong, it's amazing he can speak such variations on English so easily...

That being said, I think it really kind of crummy of the network to be throwing the show around so much. If you want to argue that it needs ratings to survive, then they need to stop screwing around with the air-dates!

I do think the show has grown more interesting since the pilot - I could scaresely believe I watched anymore episodes after I saw it since I was so taken aback by the approach I nearly launghed too hard to really even hear half of it, lol. It has since grown on me a lot. While I certainly love JRM, my favorite so far for sure has turned out to be Reinfield as well :)

Here's to hoping the show survives the hate(rs) and actually makes it into a 2nd season :)
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I liked the Renfield-character as well, and telling from other comments on the show, he seems to be one of the most interesting characters about it; however, I thought that was one of the most interesting changes done to the 'original' Stoker-story (I shouldn't cling so much to that, I know...).
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I wish NBC wouldn't throw around the episodes so much. Three weeks ago, I thought it had been instantly cancelled. Almost had a heart attack.

I really enjoy the show. I have no problems with the writers taking liberties with Bram Stoker's approach on Dracula. It's entertaining and fun to find out what next twists they mixed in with the story.

I find it gory enough but I'm not the one feeling entertained by bloodbaths. Renfield's torture scene was detailed enough for me. Don't need to see more or watch how the needle pierces the flesh.

I'm not especially fond of Jonathan Rhys Meyers but I like his intense approach on the Count and I don't mind him posing a an American Business Man. Why not?

Better than telling everyone he's a Romanian Count, although it would be funny to hear JRM's Romanian accent. The American one he hasn't quite mastered, I've read.

I'm sure that there soon will be more to the relationship of Alexander and Mina. The attraction is too strong. And after "Of Monsters and Men" I think, that Mina could add some spice to Van Helsing's research, after all, she has brilliant mind. (And what happened to the rat? *squeak* The twitching paw was so icky. ^^)

In the book, the bond between Mina and Harker is unbreakable but the Jonathan of the show doesn't seem to be able to really appreciate his fiancé, so I'm not rooting for them as I did in the book. I would have given him the boot for good after his insulting speech at the paper.

Eventually, Alexander will find himself in the position to turn Mina into a vampire or set her free, entirely.
I'm thinking, that Lucy might end that way. She's crushed by Mina's rejection (hilarious of Lady Jane to play Dangerous Liaisons with Lucy) and surely will venture into the night to find some (wicked) distraction.

I, for once, can't wait to watch the next episode on January 3rd. I'm looking very much forward to it. :-)

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I too like the show. This is a different incarnation of Dracula. He is sexy, dark and tortured much like the version played by Frank Langella. He is more discreet in his bloodletting, more vengeful, less driven by the hunger for blood than former versions and a lot less ghoulish and insane. Dracula as a fake American industrialist, rather high profile for a vampire. The Order of the Dragon works as a Van Helsing substitute, but it was way cooler to have Van Helsing as the lone crusader vanquishing vampires but Lady Jane is doing a good job as the vampire killer. What I miss is what made Barnabus Collins of Dark Shadows so popular, a vampire that hates what he has become and not only wants to walk in the light and fall in love, but regrets and hates the vampire and the killing he had to do to survive, and just want to be human again. It wouldn't hurt to have a love/hate relationship with a beautiful and love-struck Angelique either.
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I really like the show. It would be pointless to stick to the Bram Stoker version. We have all seen it and know it,nothing new there. I find the Mina storyline boring and useless,as they have decided not stay true to the original.
It would be great if Dracula blamed and despised Mina for killing herself. He sets about making her fall in love with him. Eventually he ruins her marriage to Johnathon,dumps her and reveals himself as a monster and bites her,sentencing her to a horrible eternity of life.
Knowing she threw happiness away with Johnathon, for someone that didnt love her,she is left to live in the slums of London,feeding on rats and whores. It turns out that while ripping apart whatever whore she happens to cross paths with her to feed her insatiable need for blood,people mistake her handy work for that of Jack the ripper. Turns out, she was responsible for the Jack the Ripper murders. Now THAT would be cool!!!
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Is this still on then??? I thought they stopped with it because it is SOOOOOO BADDDDD!!!!!
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Dracula is bringing wireless energy transmission to the Victorian era.
This has nothing to do with energy production and should worry the copper industry, not the oil industry.
Despite good performances from most of the actors the premise is ridiculous and story is tedious.
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You got a point there...

Maybe another enemy for the 2nd season! ;-)
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I didin't like it at all
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For a show thats on Friday night, its not bad. My only problem is its not dark enough.
Renfield is my favorite character (sorry Drac), and his interactions with Dracula are a highlight.
I dont know whether it will get a 2nd season (not sure on the ratings), but its probably doing enough to get a full season.
The business side does drag - as does the Mina Harker stuff - but I'm sticking around for 2 reasons
1- There is so little on a Friday
2- The hope that it will pick up the pace and get a bit gorier.

FYI- Your writing is very good and don't let it put you off writing more stuff. Most people will judge stuff you write on the tone of your article and not spelling or punctuation.
And if someone does antagonize you because of your writing, antagonize them right back! Works for me
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Renfield is indeed interesting; looking back at the Stoker-novel (sorry, I can't help it ;-), his character probably got increased (or evaluated) the most.

As I only watch it online, I can't tell about the air time and possible competing shows – which is a disadvantage for the show, I guess. I kind of postponed the latest two episodes, lost track....so it's interesting to hear some more opinions about it, and maybe give it another try!

And thanks a lot for the encouragement!! :-)
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I watch it online too
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To me it's just entertainment and for that I enjoy it. Rhys-Meyer is as good as always and I like the different take on the Renfield character. I also like the idea that, in this incarnation, Dracula is neither all evil or all good - unlike most of the dastardly humans. Of course here in the real world the monsters would need to be afraid of us too so, for me at least, I find the idea of the 'big bad' as being rich humans in a secret society a nice twist on the obvious.

I'm going to continue watching - nothing's made me hate it yet and that's always a good thing. This and Blacklist are my two favourite new shows to be honest.

So long as no one watches this expecting either a faithful recreation of Stoker's novel or, God help us, sparkles, then it should be an entertaining way to waste an hour.
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