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How powerful would Super Saiyan 4 Vegetto be?

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    heffa105

    [21]Aug 1, 2007
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    jinxed34 wrote:

    dont wannna be a spoiler dawgs so dont read thisw if you ruin fun with dbz(I was being sarcastic, gt is the worst show ever)...

    vegeta gone ssj4 in the end of dbgt and later fusioned with goku...duhhh

    Theyre talking bout vegitto not vegeta!
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    Antiyonder

    [22]Aug 3, 2007
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    leodonmikeraph wrote:
    Alot more powerfull than SS4 Gogeta, because the Potara Earing Fusion is ALOT more powerfull than the fusion dance, not to mention that Vegeto is a permanant fusion that cant power down, while the fusion dance fusion only holds SS4 Power for 15 minuetes then they split apart.


    To add a bit to that. The fusion dance requires the stronger person to lower his power level, where as the earrings allow both to join at their fullest.
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    dom9041543

    [23]Sep 13, 2007
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    They only have ten minutes or less and ssj4 vegito could not be created unless used the blutz wave machine. Oh and vegito would die because he can't power down.
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    heffa105

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    Why would he die? and why cant be power down? thats rediculous!!!!

    SSJ4 Goku and SSJ4 Vegeta put the earings on, they form SSJ4 Vegitto with no time limits!! He runs out of power he returns to base Vegitto! And base vegitto would be an adult in the same sense that SSJ4 Goku is an adult. its too much power for a kids body so...

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    lichlord01

    [25]Sep 13, 2007
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    No he would not. the FUSION DANE wont work unless they have the blutz wave machine. the ear rings would work fine because they are not hindered by the difference in power levels.
    What allot of people don't seem to realize is that the earrings form of fusion is ideal in the sense of what it does. you can combine with different power levels, the more opposed your personalities are the more efficient it is and it is permanent because its effects are perfect, not because they are making some sort of sacrifice. the effects probably cause their all their powers to stack and that is why he could defeat buu easily with out even going ssj. this would explain why the ear rings were gotten rid of in the story and quickly forgotten about. (not many of the bad guys could stand up to that kind of power... unless they had a pair too?)
    i think that kai said if they fused when in ssj form(with ear rings), they would die from the dramatic increase in power. the dance is only a way to mimic its effects but differences in power level and skills are detrimental to the effects as oppose to helping them. ssj 4 vegetto would definitely be much, much more powerful than ssj 4 gogetta.
    i wish you could get the earrings in tekanachi as an item and experiment with combinations of different characters.
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    Overdose18

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    Super Saiyan 2 Goku - 360,000,000

    Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta - 280,000,000

    Majin Vegeta - 360,000,000

    } } } }Vegeta's Averaged Power Level - 320,000,000

    360,000,000+320,000,000=680,000,000*38.24=~26,000,000,000

    Vegetto - ~26,000,000,000

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    Super Saiyan 4 Goku - 2,300,000,000 (Weakened after fight with Omega Shenron, they would not have been able to fuse if their power levels were not similar)

    Super Saiyan 4 Vegeta - 2,300,000,000

    2,300,000,000+2,300,000,000=4,600,000,000*10=46,000,000,000

    Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta = 46,000,000,000

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    If we now apply the same power gains for Vegetto to SS4 Goku and Vegeta, we get:

    Super Saiyan 4 Vegetto - ~175,000,000,000

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    For comparison:

    [Super Saiyan 2 Goku + (Averaged) Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta]*10=6,800,000,000 (Vegetto = 26billion)

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    Long story short: Vegetto is about 3.8 times stronger than Gogeta. This is due to the power boost given by the Potara Earings, as well as the personality differences in Goku and Vegeta. Think of it like this, Goku is passive and kind, whereas Vegeta is aggressive and usually cold. So together they create a "complete person."

    These numbers were derived from the research of about 10 different Dragon Ball devoted websites.

    And sorry for the really long post, but I thought this would be a nice scientific ending.

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    heffa105 wrote:

    Why would he die? and why cant be power down? thats rediculous!!!!

    SSJ4 Goku and SSJ4 Vegeta put the earings on, they form SSJ4 Vegitto with no time limits!! He runs out of power he returns to base Vegitto! And base vegitto would be an adult in the same sense that SSJ4 Goku is an adult. its too much power for a kids body so...



    When you were the potara earing you cant power down all you can do is power up.
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    heffa105

    [28]Sep 19, 2007
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    Who says that? So ur saying that vegitto couldnt return to his base level once he went to SSJ?? thats stupid...
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    Antiyonder

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    heffa105 wrote:
    Who says that? So ur saying that vegitto couldnt return to his base level once he went to SSJ?? thats stupid...
    It's stupid, but true. It's confirmed by Old Kaioshin when Goku asks about going Super Saiyan before or after the fusion.

    Going Super Saiyan afterwards is ok, but not necessarily needed.

    Edited on 09/20/2007 3:22pm
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    heffa105

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    Antiyonder wrote:

    heffa105 wrote:
    Who says that? So ur saying that vegitto couldnt return to his base level once he went to SSJ?? thats stupid...
    It's stupid, but true. It's confirmed by Old Kaioshin when Goku asks about going Super Saiyan before or after the fusion.

    Going Super Saiyan afterwards is ok, but not necessarily needed.

    ah.... i get it... so if they fused as base then used the blutz waves they would be fine...
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    heffa105

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    yeah sounds like u don't know what ur talking about and making up numbers. U get the same to fighters and fuse them, the potaro fusion will be stronger than the dance fusion
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    heffa105 wrote:
    yeah sounds like u don't know what ur talking about and making up numbers. U get the same to fighters and fuse them, the potaro fusion will be stronger than the dance fusion

    Yep thats true, old kai stated potaro fusion gives u more power than a fusion dance is just the catch is u stayed fused forever

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    vicdmx

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    He would be more stronger than SSJ4 Gogeta that's for sure.
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    vicdmx wrote:
    He would be more stronger than SSJ4 Gogeta that's for sure.

    about 5-7 times like wat kidbuu23 sed lol

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    heffa105

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    RellikofSouls wrote:

    vicdmx wrote:
    He would be more stronger than SSJ4 Gogeta that's for sure.

    about 5-7 times like wat kidbuu23 sed lol

    no kid buu said 90x stronger.... i said 5 - 7 x stronger...
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    Sorry, but they never said potara was stronger then fusion dance all that was said is its more effective and the power limit has nothing to do with it because neither Goku nor Vegeta have to power down to go to super saiyan 4 Gogeta because they are the same power level as each other at super saiyan 4. Meaning that neither of the fusions would be stronger because if you do it as a math problem it would be something like this.(SSj4.Goku=4+SSj4.Vegeta=4 =SSj4.Gogeta=(SSj4.Goku=4+SSj4.Vegeta=4 =SSj4.Vegetto= The power levels would be exactly the same the only way either would win is if the fusion for Gogeta were to end.

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    XxKHA0SxX

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    Sorry the faces were supposed to be "8's"
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    heffa105

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    XxKHA0SxX wrote:

    Sorry, but they never said potara was stronger then fusion dance all that was said is its more effective and the power limit has nothing to do with it because neither Goku nor Vegeta have to power down to go to super saiyan 4 Gogeta because they are the same power level as each other at super saiyan 4. Meaning that neither of the fusions would be stronger because if you do it as a math problem it would be something like this.(SSj4.Goku=4+SSj4.Vegeta=4 =SSj4.Gogeta=(SSj4.Goku=4+SSj4.Vegeta=4 =SSj4.Vegetto= The power levels would be exactly the same the only way either would win is if the fusion for Gogeta were to end.

    yeah u havent watched or read much DBZ have u? the fusions arent simply adding the powers 2gether, both fusions give a certain multiplier... do u really think that SSJ Goten or SSJ Trunks could even had up to an 1/8th of Super Buus power? whereas SSJ Gotenks would be nearly half his power...

    anyways, its stated elder kai that, to be exact, the potara fusions makes a much stronger person then that silly dance.... u need to go back and re watch it
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