I thought you would agree with him though since you claimed the same power levels in a different thread.
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|Goku and Freeza were a match when he used 20x Kaio-Ken.|
|Goku was actually weeker than Freeza at Super Saiyan Level, he was just smarter, plus the battle was symbolic, Goku won because of fate. He even said it a couple times during the battle, that he was good and Freeza was evil.|
|Anyway, at Full Power Freeza was 12,000,000 and Goku was only 10,000,000, he outsmarted him, one, and he was also using Kaio-Ken ??x.|
Here's the way I see it. I don't know if anyone mentioned this yet, but here goes.
I think most of us agree that Goku and Frieza were at 15,000,000 and 12,000,000 respectively, after they both reached their full powers. I'm going to try to prove that Goku's base power level was 3,000,000 and not 300,000, using Vegeta as the centerpiece of my argument.
When Vegeta last fought Frieze, his power level was a little over 2,000,000. Strong enough to take Frieza's third form, but no match for his fourth. Now, after Frieza was defeated by Goku, Vegeta left to train. Let's say that he increased his power level toabout 4,000,000, which seems reasonable. Then, he finally transformed into a super saiyan. Now let's say Androids 19 and 20 had power levels of about 20,000,000, and 17 and 18 were closer to 25,000,000. Vegeta was obviously strong enough to destroy 19, but was no match for 18, which puts Vegeta between 20,000,000 and 25,000,000. We know now that Vegeta went from about 4,000,000 to about 20,000,000....a 5x increase. Therefore, I believe that Goku went from about 3,000,000 to 15,000,000 when he transformed....also a 5x increase.
Now, about Goku's last zenkai(sp) before facing Frieza. I think it's just a plot hole that wasn't really too well thought out, and nothing more.
|Ever heard of Kaioken?|
I'm not sure if that question was directed at me, but yes I have.
It doesn't change anything, though. There's no way Goku went from 300,000 to 15,000,000(50x), while Vegeta only went from 4,000,000 to 20,000,000(5x).
|Maybe because Goku went from 3,000,000 to 150,000,000 (50x) and Vegeta went from 4,000,000 to over 200,000,000?|
He didn't go to 150,000,000, though. I'm pretty sure Goku's official power level after his transformation was 15,000,000. I think Toriyama even confirmed it, unless I'm mistaken.