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    Devilz911

    [1]Sep 16, 2007
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    So what do you think are the multipliers in DBZ? Here are the ones I used for my power level list (Buu Arc):

    Base-SSJ = 8x

    SSJ-SSJ2 = 12x

    SSJ2-SSJ3 = 4x

    Fusion Dance = 120x

    Potara Fusion = 600x

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    LSSJBroly17

    [2]Sep 16, 2007
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    SSJ = 50X Base

    SSJ2 = 100X Base

    SSJ3 = 150X Base

    Golden Oozaru = 500X Base

    SSJ4 = 600X Base

    this is what i think they are

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    Devilz911

    [3]Sep 16, 2007
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    Only 2x increase going from SSJ-SSJ2, then SSJ2-SSJ3 another 2x? Seems awfully small to me.
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    LSSJBroly17

    [4]Sep 16, 2007
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    well if you think about it it isnt that small an increase since if the power was like 4,000,000 at base ssj would be 200,000,000 and ssj2 would be 400,000,000 and that doesnt seam like a small increase to me
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    dom9041543

    [5]Sep 16, 2007
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    No golden ozara multipliers should be higher ssj4.
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    LSSJBroly17

    [6]Sep 16, 2007
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    ssj4 is stronger than golden oozaru
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    King_CGF

    [7]Sep 16, 2007
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    SSJ (First time)= x50 (With base power increase)

    SSJ= x10
    ASSJ= x2
    USSJ= x2 (Powerups added, but with a decrease in speed))
    LSSJ= x2
    MSSJ= x20
    SSJ2= x5
    SSJ3= x5

    Fusion dance= x100
    Portara= For Vegito, I did 3,000x Goku's base
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    SRP76

    [8]Sep 16, 2007
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    I would say:

    Base to Super Saiyan: 50 times.
    Super Saiyan to Super Saiyan 2: 10 times (500 times base)
    Super Saiyan 2 to Super Saiyan 3: 5 times (50 times Super Saiyan, 2500 times base)

    Though it really doesn't matter to me what the numbers are; as long as the same number is applied to everybody, throughout, I don't argue. If the numbers are consistent, I agree with them.

    It's just when different numbers start getting asigned to different people in different circumstances, that I question.
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    kidbuu23

    [9]Sep 16, 2007
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    ssj4 is controlled golden oozaru. oozaru is super sayain monkey!
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    deckzone3000

    [10]Sep 16, 2007
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    I always wonder how strong people(who think SSJ is base x50 think) think the saiyan's base forms are for the cell games and the buu saga.

    King_CGF wrote:
    SSJ (First time)= x50 (With base power increase)

    SSJ= x10
    ASSJ= x2
    USSJ= x2 (Powerups added, but with a decrease in speed))
    LSSJ= x2
    MSSJ= x20
    SSJ2= x5
    SSJ3= x5

    I don't understand.
    What is MSSJ multipling by 20?
    And is LSSJ 2x stronger than USSJ?

    Edited on 09/16/2007 10:41pm
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    deckzone3000

    [11]Sep 16, 2007
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    Base to SSJ = 7.5x for mastered super saiyans.

    SSJ to SSJ2 = 15x for Gohan at cell games
    SSJ to SSJ2 = around 10x for Goku in the buu saga.

    SSJ2 to SSJ3 = 3x for Goku

    SSJ to SSJ3 = 3x for Gotenks

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    SRP76

    [12]Sep 16, 2007
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    deckzone3000 wrote:

    I always wonder how strong people(who think SSJ is base x50 think) think the saiyan's base forms are for the cell games and the buu saga.

    "Not strong enough". Otherwise, they'd never go Super Saiyan.

    Which leads to: why does it matter? They never (with the exception of Vegeta smashing Puipui) fight their major battles in base form. As long as their Super Saiyan forms are enough to get the job done, their base power doesn't matter.

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    deckzone3000

    [13]Sep 16, 2007
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    SRP76 wrote:
    deckzone3000 wrote:

    I always wonder how strong people(who think SSJ is base x50 think) think the saiyan's base forms are for the cell games and the buu saga.

    "Not strong enough". Otherwise, they'd never go Super Saiyan.

    Which leads to: why does it matter? They never (with the exception of Vegeta smashing Puipui) fight their major battles in base form. As long as their Super Saiyan forms are enough to get the job done, their base power doesn't matter.

    Gohan and Vegeta agreed to fight in the world tournament in their base forms. It's pretty obvious to me that they are stronger in their base forms than Android 18. So does that mean you think SSJ Gohan in the Buu saga(who has slacked off for 7 years)is over 50x stronger than Android 18?
    Edited on 09/16/2007 10:43pm
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    SRP76

    [14]Sep 16, 2007
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    Probably is. Most believe that base Kid Trunks is equal to a full-power Android 18, so ANYTHING is possible. Actually, having the Saiyans' power levels skyrocket like that would help explain why ALL the other fighters (including the once-feared Android 18, and the stronger-than-Imperfect-Cell Piccolo) became totally useless as the series rolled on.

    I've seen people say that having the Saiyans' power levels go into the quintillions (or whatever number) like that would be "ridiculous". But, face it: ALL the powers from the Frieza saga onward were ridiculous! Once you start getting into millions, and hundreds of millions, it's already out of hand.
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    Android17FTW

    [15]Sep 17, 2007
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    Thats hogwash, Vegeta got beaten by Android 18 when he was in SSJ Form, or does 18 grow weaker?
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    LSSJBroly17

    [16]Sep 17, 2007
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    kidbuu23 wrote:
    ssj4 is controlled golden oozaru. oozaru is super sayain monkey!
    goku clearly states that at ssj4 he is stronger than he was as an golden oozaru
    Edited on 09/17/2007 4:56am
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    DC1_24

    [17]Sep 17, 2007
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    Android17FTW wrote:
    Thats hogwash, Vegeta got beaten by Android 18 when he was in SSJ Form, or does 18 grow weaker?


    Yeah that was before though he also got much stronger because he became a MSSJ.
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    King_CGF

    [18]Sep 17, 2007
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    I don't understand. What is MSSJ multipling by 20? And is LSSJ 2x stronger than USSJ?


    It's multiplying base form by 20, and LSSJ doubles the power of a SSJ.
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    vegeta_ano

    [19]Sep 17, 2007
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    You guys just put too much thinking into these things.

    SSJ- strong

    SSJ2 - stronger

    SSJ3 - even stronger

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    kidbuu23

    [20]Sep 17, 2007
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    its weird but agreed
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