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    jwgrlrrajn

    [1]Oct 21, 2012
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    Do you think this series is good, that it captures the spirit of Sherlock Holmes, or that it sucks?


    I personally think it's a great show, and episode three managed to completely sell me on the series, but so far, I'm just not getting the Sherlock Holmes vibe from it (comparing it to the fantastic Jeremy Brett series as opposed to Sherlock or the RDJ movies, which are really good, but not an objective comparison point).


    I don't know, in some ways, I think the series would be just as good, if not better, if they left the Sherlock Holmes mythos out of it entirely. But then again, I don't know how many people would watch it if it wasn't based on Sherlock Holmes.


    Opinions?

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    marmanglona

    [2]Oct 27, 2012
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    LOVE IT!!!

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    Dec1964

    [3]Oct 31, 2012
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    Absolutely Love It.

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    maverick13007

    [4]Dec 6, 2012
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    I personally like it very much. Johnny gives it a certain .... something that I can't quite put my finger on, but he makes it much more enjoyable to watch. That and I love that they used Lucy as Watson. frankly put, the dynamic between them is pretty awesome I'd say

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    CrazyAsian1080

    [5]Dec 11, 2012
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    Elementary turned out to be a lot better than I expected. From the previews I was expecting something a lot more dark and gritty. Don't get me wrong, the show is gritty and sometimes dark, but in an up beat kind of way. The back and forth between JLM and LL also works, it's like Becket and Castle but without the UST which means this show can, and should, avoid the whole Moonlighting problem. I also like the fact Sherlock is a bit more manic in this show and has this almost child like tit for tat attitude. You first noticed it when he crashes Watson's car into the doctor's car in the first ep, but where it really shined was when he was justifying to Watson how he was actual responsible for his own rescue.


    My only problem with the show, and I have posted this main times but I will post it again, is they do not show the clues that Sherlock uses to solve the crime until the reveal. They will show Sherlock looking at stuff, but never what he is looking at. This gets a bit annoying at times. It'sparticularly annoying in this show because they will show you some clues, like the pictures on the wall in the long fuse, but won't show you others, like the rubber ball marks on ceiling in one way to get off.

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    Dec1964

    [6]Dec 14, 2012
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    I have no complaints with this Fantastic show what so ever.

    Edited on 01/04/2013 4:44am
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    Yaspaa

    [8]Dec 15, 2012
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    There's too much Sherlock going on at the moment, so another one doing the same kind of thing wouldn't have worked so the differences in this show, I really don't mind, it's a nice change and better than I was expecting. It doesn't capture Holmes though. It's its own thing with similarities only.
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    rphjose

    [9]Jan 20, 2013
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    From the 2 episodes I've seen, it looks like a "Mentalist" remake.
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    Dec1964

    [10]Jan 24, 2013
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    rphjose wrote:
    From the 2 episodes I've seen, it looks like a "Mentalist" remake.



    Could you please elaborate.

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    YadGadge

    [11]Jan 31, 2013
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    He means that The Mentalist's way of deducing crimes is heavily influenced by the Sherlock Holmes stories much like House MD was so it seems similar because they all draw from the same source material.*




    *Just guessing with a bit of snarkiness.
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    ArnoldRimmer1

    [12]Feb 3, 2013
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    Its Boring US Copy of a GOOD BBC Show.


    Sherlock is a 100 Times better

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    YadGadge

    [13]Feb 4, 2013
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    I don't think it's really trying to "copy" the BBC version. The US version hasn't tried to follow the books, it just uses the (modified) characters in a different setting. True it's not as good as Sherlock, but I wouldn't call it boring, the characters and the actors portrayals of them are well done, and they've kept things interesting/entertaining enough for me.
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    Dec1964

    [14]Feb 5, 2013
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    ArnoldRimmer1 wrote:


    Its Boring US Copy of a GOOD BBC Show.


    Sherlock is a 100 Times better




    The USA version "Elementary" is a million times better than the BBC version.


    You cant improve on Perfection - Elementary.

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    Dec1964

    [15]Feb 5, 2013
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    YadGadge wrote:
    He means that The Mentalist's way of deducing crimes is heavily influenced by the Sherlock Holmes stories much like House MD was so it seems similar because they all draw from the same source material.* *Just guessing with a bit of snarkiness.



    2 entirely different shows.

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    GutterMom

    [16]Feb 9, 2013
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    Love It.

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    Yaspaa

    [17]Feb 15, 2013
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    Excellent show, but it's certainly not in the same league as Sherlock, let's not get carried away here.
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    ionee24

    [18]Feb 20, 2013
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    jwgrlrrajn wrote:


    Opinions?



    It's a build up show: the story grows on you because it makes the audience participant in the development of Sherlock and Joan. The mutual investment mirrors the audience investment in them, as the cases are a fun procedural that enriches the story.


    It should last for as long as Holmes and Watson keep evolving.

    Edited on 02/20/2013 9:41am
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    rphjose

    [19]Feb 28, 2013
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    Dec1964 wrote:

    rphjose wrote:
    From the 2 episodes I've seen, it looks like a "Mentalist" remake.



    Could you please elaborate.


    I find many similarities in both shows:

    -Someone with remarkable observation and deducing skills works as a consultant with the police to solve crimes.
    -The police can't solve the crimes without him.
    -When the police arrests someone based on strong evidence, he says the arrested person is innocent. Nobody believes him but in the end it turns out he's right.
    -The protagonist often uses questionable or even illegal methods to obtain clues, evidence or confessions.
    -The protagonist often uses weird methods to obtain clues.
    -The boss and almost everyone else thinks the protagonist is crazy, they'd love to fire him but can't because of his ability to solve cases.
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    coolchris44

    [20]Mar 7, 2013
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    this show is great. Sherlock reminds me of Patrick Jane at times

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