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The added scenes to the characters flashforwards, the japanese girl's "L.A. story", and then the "twist" at the end. I believe the writers on this show are under too much pressure to be clever. And Rightly so, after all the great "WTF" moments "Lost" has delivered it's hard to repeat those same kind of moments.
no offence but ... how would you know it´s not like LOST? YOU have never seen LOST.
unlike people comparing it to LOST who have seen both shows. I totally agree that the writers try for it to be the new LOST (casting, lots of different small references etc... well LOST even just flash forwards years ago - fun fact: the even had a funeral parlor named "Hoffs-Drawler" in the first flash forward episode which is an anagram for, you guessed right, FLASH FORWARD).
but i can rate flash forward without comparing it to LOST and it just isn´t "deep" enough. I mean, it´s an okay show and I can see why some people like it and I watch it too. i just needed to point out that not having seen LOST isn´t the best starting point to tell people that this doesn´t try to be the new LOST. cause it tries (which is not a bad thing...).
Well. Lost isn´t just a show about people stranded on an island. the reason it is obviously trying to grab Lost viewers isn´t just the actors (but that´s the thing that should at first lure people over) but that they are using lots and lots of same expressions, concepts and ideas that the average Lost fan should be familiar with. episode 4 e.g. being named "black swan". that´s a reference to the the "swan station" on Lost (seriously, how many TV shows do you know with the word "swan" used without it being about a real swan) or the title of the season finale "course correction". well, that´s a key concept (named exactly that) over a few Lost season. the thing that frost explained in the last episode about "forking paths" is absolutely what Lost season 5 and 6 is about up to the point that there are now two forked realities (they did know what was happening in their future and so they changed the past to NOT make it happen). well, there are many many many more references like that and if you would elaborate about which core concepts of the story telling you do like/love/find excetited about FF I´d say I´ll find where that was used on Lost. I´m not trying to make you like Lost and everything. I just wanted to tell you why IT IS OBVIOUSLY "trying" to be Lost which you are fully denying. Now i´ve written way to much here to prove a point on the internet (what a loser i am.. haha). i just wanted to show you the WHY people compare those two shows.
Like Jim Carrey, in the movie Number 23 where he sees Number 23 every where he looks, you Lost fans (I mean the hard core ones) see Lost every where you turn your head and look. I would bet you see it in the real life too.
The episode Black Swan was referring to this.
Black Swan Events were described by Nassim Nicholas Taleb in his 2007 book, The Black Swan. Taleb regards almost all major scientific discoveries, historical events, and artistic accomplishments as "black swans" - undirected and unpredicted. He gives the rise of the Internet, the personal computer, World War I, and the September 11, 2001 attacks as examples of Black Swan Events. The term black swan was a Latin expression - its oldest reference is in the poet Juvenal expression that "a good person is as rare as a black swan" ("rara avis in terris nigroque simillima cygno", 6.165). It was a common expression in 16th century London as a statement that describes impossibility, deriving from the old world presumption that 'all swans must be white', because all historical records of swans reported that they had white feathers. In that context, a black swan was something that was impossible, or near impossible and could not exist. After the discovery of black swans in Western Australia in 1697, by a Dutch expedition led by explorer Willem de Vlamingh on the Swan River, the term metamorphosed to connote that a perceived impossibility may later be found to exist. Taleb notes that, writing in the 19th century, John Stuart Mill used the black swan logical fallacy as a new term to identify falsification, but only drawing on a London expression. Writing in the New York Times, Taleb asserted: What we call here a Black Swan (and capitalize it) is an event with the following three attributes. First, it is an outlier, as it lies outside the realm of regular expectations, because nothing in the past can convincingly point to its possibility. Second, it carries an extreme impact. Third, in spite of its outlier status, human nature makes us concoct explanations for its occurrence after the fact, making it explainable and predictable. I stop and summarize the triplet: rarity, extreme impact, and retrospective (though not prospective) predictability. A small number of Black Swans explain almost everything in our world, from the success of ideas and religions, to the dynamics of historical events, to elements of our own personal lives.
And if you knew something about todays science and theoretical Physics then you would understand where I am coming from, about Flashforward and Lost.
| ma_liky wrote: |
| you Lost fans (I mean the hard core ones) see Lost every where you turn your head and look. |
Absolutely.
"Both shows play on earth and have humans in it. Sooooo much like Lost!"
Jumping the shark? This is the first season and it's not evengood enough to be riding a motorcycle to jump the shark!
The network tried to promote the show by comparing it to their big hit LOST. That was just advertising hype, not an accurate description of FLASHFORWARD. Can't we stop trying to do comparisons between two very different shows?
The people who currently run ABC are not very bright. Look at ABC's history. They had three great hits in a row: LOST, DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES, GRAY'S ANATOMY. Then the network started doing stupid things like firing the entire staff of COMMANDER IN CHIEF when it was their most promising show, and they haven't had a hit since. Just ignore what the network says.
