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Frasier Season 10 Episode 22

Fathers and Sons

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Aired Unknown May 06, 2003 on NBC

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AIRED: 5/6/03

A close male friend of Niles' and Frasier's mother stirs some angst as to what their relationship really was.

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A gem in a maligned season.

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By francklloyd, Jan 23, 2011

Conventional wisdom states that seasons nine and ten were the weakest in the long life of Frasier, but they contained some gems after all, such as this one. First of all, its main plot stems naturally from the basic set-up of the show. The writers didn't have to introduce a new element to come up with jokes. Everybody has wondered how someone like Martin could have wound up with sons like Frasier and Niles. The secondary plot (Niles and Daphne choosing a name for their not yet conceived child) ties in with the main one. It's a recognisable story, but becomes extra funny in the Frasier world.

The casting has always been brilliant but I'm sure everybody must have slapped their forehead when they saw David Ogden Stiers together with Kelsey Grammer and David Hyde Pierce. How could we have missed this? Major Charles Winchester in MASH was the prototype for Frasier and Niles!

But what I liked best was the performance of John Mahoney. The actors in Frasier are allowed to overact at times, especially during the annual farce episode, but realism tends to be the norm. Martin Crane's reactions to the idea that his two boys may not be his sons are underplayed but absolutely believable. One look can say more than a thousand words. Funny and touching at the same time.moreless
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Leland Barton Hester's old research partner returns to Seattle.

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By Bountyhunterc28, Jun 26, 2007

Leland Barton comes to Seattle, and Roz is shocked at how much Niles and Frasier is like him, she accidentally tells this to Martin, who confesses to Roz that Hester, cheated on him once and is afraid she is right.

Martin then watches the way Frasier and Niles interact with Leland, and decides to confront him about it, its then that Martin learns that Leland is gay.

One of my favorite parts was the end when the people from the prep school where looking over the application for Niles and Daphne’s child and the name Ichabod Crane was the name Roz picked, nice gag.moreless
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Kelsey Grammer	Dr. Frasier Crane
Jane Leeves	Daphne Moon Crane
David Hyde Pierce	Dr. Niles Crane
Peri Gilpin	Roz Doyle
John Mahoney	Martin Crane
Moose	Eddie

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David Ogden Stiers	Leland Barton	Guest Star
Linden Chiles	Dean of Admissions	Guest Star
David St. James	Admissions Officer	Guest Star
Amita Balla	Waitress	Recurring Role

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TRIVIA (1)
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- Niles: Leland, it is such a pleasure to talk shop with a fellow nutcracker.
  Leland: And talking to you Jung people makes me feel like an id again.
  Niles: Do you have a pun, Frasier?
  
  Frasier didn't, but he might have responded, "I'm a-Freud I can't think of one".
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- Frasier: (hearing of Daphne's and Niles' childcare application) Do I hear the pitter-patter of petite elite feet?
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- Niles: How 'bout Desmond?
  Daphne: Desmond Crane. 'Desmond Crane, you are hereby sentenced to...' No. I don't like it.
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- Niles: (responding to one of Daphne's name suggestions) Now you're just reading from the spice rack.
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- Frasier: When I can't give an opinion, you may as well call the coroner, tag my toe, I'm dead.
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- Martin: By your logic, everyone on the cooking channel's their father.
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- For this episode, and for 'The Devil And Dr. Phil', John Mahoney (Martin) was nominated for the 2003 Emmy Award for "Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Comedy Series".
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- If the ages of the actors were utilized, David Ogden Stiers would have been only fourteen when he became Kelsey Grammer's father.
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- Hogan's Heroes: When Niles has Daphne pick a first name out of the phone book, the name she chooses is Bob. Bob Crane portrayed Col. Robert Hogan in the 60's TV series Hogan's Heroes, but was more well known for the bizarre lifestyle he led following the show.
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- The Legend of Sleepy Hollow: The name Roz picks for the application is Ichabod Crane. Ichabod Crane is the protagonist in Washington Irwing's "the Legend of Sleepy Hollow", which was filmed by Tim Burton in 1999 with Johnny Depp playing Ichabod.
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