Season 4 Episode 1

Neither Here Nor There

Aired Friday 9:00 PM Sep 23, 2011 on FOX
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  • Episode Summary


    The teams on the two worlds work together to solve the case of a shapeshifter, and Agent Lincoln Lee joins his world's team when no one remembers the existence of Peter Bishop.

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    • boring!!

      No peter-olivia-walter-astrid connection....

      somehow fringe does`nt seem fringe anymore....

      they might as well have made a new show!
    • Human shapeshifters, Peter, and the cow.

      Wow. I was excited for this season premiere for a long time. After this stunning cliffhanger from Season 3, I was eager to find out how exactly theshow-runnerswere going to explain this one. Was the episode disappointing? Not exactly.

      For the Season Four Premiere, we went back to Fringe's basic monster-of-the-weekstory line. This week, we were introduced to these new human shapeshifters (I call them Translucents), who are basically killing people with some sort of material in their bodies (I think it's metal? Don't remember.) and draining their bodies. As usual, the FBI tracks down these shapeshifters and Olivia shows off her butt-kicking action (albeit getting a bit brutalized).

      Predictable? A little bit. But that wasn't the part of the episode I particularly liked. The Fringe show-runners integrated some more mythology and "Where Is Peter?" info into this episode. Usually Walter is the show-stealer; however, this week, September the Observer gets that title. Basically, he is recruited by his elder Observer, December, to permanently erase the "traces" of Peter that still bleed through. The episode followed him as he collected pieces to build his device to erase Peter. But the decision he ultimately makes in the end...well, I don't want to spoil it.

      All in all, a mostly satisfying premiere to what looks like a great season of Fringe. I wish we would have seen more of the Other Side (Walternate!), and that opening scene between the two Olivias felt a little forced to me, but all in all, it was a great episode. Looking forward to next week!moreless
    • Well I dont know

      I really hate to do this, I really love Fringe a lot. I'm confused on what happen here, its like all the elements were thrown out and it's like I don't know the characters again. This was really dry I'm sorry it was something in the air and it's missing, nothing was funny no good times solving cases like teamwork. And Peter is gone, its like taking Walter out. Its bland, I don't get why Walter is even there if Peter never made it to adulthood. Walter would never help the FBI, Peter was that stability till Walter got use to things. The purpose of taking out Peter should have caused a huge ripple effect just like any of the main characters didn't exist. I got know answers and even the new mutants running around sucking material from other people blood and that's pretty much it. No real case solving no well nothing. I don't know if Lincoln is suppose to be a substitute Peter or something, but if you all don't think that something is missing isn't Peter your dead wrong. I think the show is all over the place and were back to season 1 learning the characters again. Every new season they keep erasing what we gained, last season Olivia was everywhere but we didn't see much of her role but we seen fauxlivia a lot. Just when a real relationship was about to kick bam that happens, than a relationship starts again than bam Peters gone. It's like were never moving forward just stuck in one place and sometimes moving back just to end up where we left off. This show is on its 4th season this show had enough time to mature its time to make some stability.moreless
    • More like a pilot than a premiere.

      This episode felt strange to me and given the long introduction of Lincoln Lee it seemed like a TV show pilot. If I hadn't seen the first 3 seasons this episode wouldn't have made any sense, but even so I'm a little confused as to where the show is going.
    • pretty weak start for the season

      i watched the show and i thought it was decent, not good, not bad, just in the middle. we are again served with a plot about the shapeshifters which is starting to be a tired plot device in the series. there are many plot holes in this show and i thought Olivia was just dry and plain bad, her lines were awfull, she became a boring character all of a sudden.

      the fact that peter is gone creates a big huge hole, until he comes back. and i do not get the fact that the creators insists on putting the actor with the glasses ( cant recall his name, that how boring it was )up front in the limelight. the show is on 50% neutral gear then every 3 or 4 episodes it shifts in high gear then falls back in neutral.

      if they dont generate better interest and get rid of the tired plots, i fear that the show wont come back after this season. there is so much a fan can take before getting bored. there is like a gazillion story possibilities with the show but the writers seems to be stuck in some sort of ditch and cannot get out of it.

      i love the show but sometimes i am just wondering why i am watching it....moreless
    Michelle Krusiec

    Michelle Krusiec


    Guest Star

    Michael Adamthwaite

    Michael Adamthwaite

    ND Agent #2

    Guest Star

    Trevor Addie

    Trevor Addie


    Guest Star

    Michael Cerveris

    Michael Cerveris

    The Observer

    Recurring Role

    Eugene Lipinski

    Eugene Lipinski


    Recurring Role

    Trivia, Notes, Quotes and Allusions


    • TRIVIA (1)

    • QUOTES (8)

      • Olivia: If you can't trust the people you're dealing with, what then?
        Bolivia: You know, maybe I'm not the problem. Maybe it's you. Maybe you are just incapable of trust.
        Olivia: Interesting. Coming from the person who kidnapped me and stole my life.
        Bolivia: You know, being you and living your life only made me more homesick for my universe.

      • Walter: The thing about playing Devil's advocate, my dear, is that your client is the Devil himself.

      • Walter: If you really want a story, you should look under the dome. I'm growing an ear.

      • Lincoln: I'm coming with you.
        Olivia: You keep going like this and you're gonna talk yourself out of the bureau.
        Lincoln: I was at the first crime scene. Maybe I saw something that I haven't told you yet. Maybe that's why I came here.
        Olivia: Okay, come. You can get fired later.

      • Walter: I need to check her anus. Have that large lady there help you lift here.
        Astrid: Umm. I'm going to, uh... I'm going to need to check her anus.
        CD Tech: Okay...

      • Walter: And yet, interestingly, they do all suffer from a variety of health problems. Gout, hair loss, kidney diseases. Which in themselves have something in common. I'm not wearing pants.
        Astrid: I'm on it.

      • Astrid: Listen to this. One of the victims' credit cards just registered a charge. Dead people do not use their credit cards.
        Walter: Of course they do. Certainly.

      • Lincoln: (about Walter) Is he all right?
        Olivia: Well, that depends on your definition of all right. He's functional. Except when he's not. But he is often quite brilliant. He just never had anything to tether him to the world.

    • NOTES (5)

    • ALLUSIONS (1)

      • Lincoln: One of these things is not like the other.
        Referencing the song One of These Things, which has been used on several episodes of the television show Sesame Street to teach children to identify similarities and differences between items based on quantity, shape, whether they were letters or numbers, and a variety of other reasons.