Fringe

Season 1 Episode 2

The Same Old Story

11
Aired Friday 9:00 PM Sep 16, 2008 on FOX
8.3
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Olivia, Peter and Walter Bishop investigate the strange death of a woman who had an even stranger child. The woman was pregnant for only hours, yet the baby she birthed was fully developed - and also aged 80 years in the span of a few minutes. Olivia asks Nina Sharp of Massive Dynamic for help.moreless

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  • Way better than the pilot, but not without flaws

    7.0
    A great improvement towards the pilot! I'm not so good with the surrealism of the series, however there were many things I enjoyed about this episode. For starters, John Noble, who gives an outstanding performance as this slightly insane, but unbelievably intelligent man. My favorite moment of the episode was when his son calls him, totally agitated because of the tough situation he's in, and Noble's just like "Boy, we just made Joshua Jackson is way better in the pilot, too and Anna Torv is a steadily strong lead. The crime, which they were trying to solve, was too odd in my opinion, but overall it was still entertaining to watch.moreless
  • The Same Old Story

    7.0
    The questions I ask myself now is: What is the capacity of someone who begins to see "Fringe" will have to embark in this world of pseudoscience and continue it for long? Even when someone able to enjoy the episodes without starting to develop some resistance to what is presented?



    Of course it depends from person to person. In my case, if the last scene of the first episode where the character John Scott is taken to mark five hours after he died - which is already one of the great mysteries of the series, as Mark Valley is part of the cast and how supposedly died, I'm pretty curious to know what place has the character in the series, but this is a story for another time - let me have something sturdy to the concept that the series takes, the fact that this second episode starts with another case bizarre (the type of cases that we see often, of course) has made me more wary. And I like the bizarre. But I also believe that what is more abundant.



    Even with this feeling of strength this early on in terms of suspense and tension, the first moments of the episode were undoubtedly the best. The breakneck pace of the whole sequence, will be accompanied by new melodies by Michael Giacchino, was a perfect introduction to an episode that left a bitter taste. With the course of the investigation and subsequent revealing of the mysteries, if the interest has died down and the first few minutes what had been achieved, the eye-catching, has been diluted with the passage of time. In that way the case was solved was, once again, the Rasar the limits of suspension of disbelief (something that almost certainly is destined to happen often in this series).



    Unlike what I had been in memory since I saw the pilot episode for some time, this time some of the actors, and even their own characters, I'm not totally convinced. Anna Torv always seemed to me something far away, discouraged, probably a result of recent personal events in which your character now, but even so, it seemed always too alien. Not to mention that his chemistry with Joshua Jackson was almost nil.



    Speaking of the latter, and this may already enter the field of precious, but it is extremely annoying how often the actor emphasizes his lines (he worst, I remember, suddenly, the flamboyant Michael Rapaport, from "Prison Break "). And this is even more remarkable because all the others are people of deep voices and little projection, and Joshua Jackson. On the other hand, I appreciated the ease of Blair Brown in his portrayal of Nina Sharp.



    Finally, not wanting to drag a lot more discussion now widely discussed, there tell me that this episode did not exhale "X-Files" from every pore?moreless
  • Nice follow-up to the pilot, but not as intense..

    8.8
    Fringe certainly had an interesting premise with this episode.. but one thing I've noticed about the show is their tendency to focus a lot of their efforts on the scientific breakdown of terms and solutions. Walter and Peter will ramble on about some odd type of paranormal thing that he worked on in the past, and they break down how it works and what it means.. by the end of the episode, there's a limited amount of screen time dedicated to the action.



    But hey, why complain when the show is still so compelling? I've found myself drawn into the show, much like Lost did when it first aired.. the whole Massive Dynamic story line seems interesting and it makes me really want to know what its endgame is.



    The characters are all becoming pretty interesting as well. Especially the interactions between Walter and Peter.. Walter consistantly delivers hilarious lines and brings some level of comedy to a show that's heavily dominated by science fiction, the paranormal and drama.



    Overall, a good start to the season.moreless
  • Lack of intesity and a bad choice in showing this case after the pilot.

    7.0
    After this episode, I really don´t know if this show have potential, but since this show have good hands producing it, it doesn´t cost anything to have a little faith.



    The case itself it is not very attractive and it was unreal, I didn´t expected to see some "magic" but more advanced science, exploring what is necessary and making the episode filled with mystery and making the development interesting.



    It is not a bad episode, but the intensity and the plot twist made in the pilot make some pressure for this episode, this is why I expected more of it, at least was entertaining.moreless
  • Quite disappointing

    6.5
    After the great pilot, I was quite excited to see next episode and thought even those online viewing possibilities but I am glad I did not gave up and waited the week on local tv channel to see next episode.. because I still have my faith on this serie.. if I had seen that episode soon after pilot, I might have given up at all.



    So.. that sounds terrible? And some way.. it was.. I do not know.. All the mystery and all the tempo, motion.. it was gone. The chars were there but I did not saw much development neither them or their stories.. Maybe only that father/son relationship got some motion forward and the case.. it sounded good on paper but in action.. I do not know.. there wasn't that mystery.. that tension, excitement what pilot had.. I hope it gets better.. There is potential..moreless
Derek Cecil

Derek Cecil

Christopher

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Mark Blum

Mark Blum

Dr. Claus Penrose

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Betty Gilpin

Betty Gilpin

Loraine Daisy

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Trivia, Notes, Quotes and Allusions

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  • TRIVIA (8)

    • When Peter discovers that Walter is sitting in the closet again, he is first shown wearing dark boxer shorts while putting on a dark shirt. In the closeup shot of Walter, we can see that Peter is now wearing gray sweat pants.

    • When Walter tries to lull himself to sleep at the end of the episode, he recites to himself the Fibonacci series - a series of numbers where each number is the result of adding the two previous ones. The real series starts as: 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13 while Walter recites 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 8, 13. Besides the modern misconception that the series starts with 0, Walter omits the 5.

    • When Olivia and Peter enter the motel room, Peter closes the door behind him. A couple of shots later, A policeman can be seen through the open door without anybody having gone in or out of the room.

    • Near the end of the episode when Peter was shooting at Dr. Penrose we see that he shot only three bullets, After that we can clearly see the exposed barrel of the gun as the slide stayed in the back of the gun. This only happens when the magazine is empty of bullets. Any average magazine holds at least 10 bullets in it, so it cannot be empty after three shots unless Olivia keeping it on purpose half empty.

    • The glyph cipher spells "child."

    • Trivia In front of the Massive Dynamic Building you can see a one way sign that has the words "Voces Video" on it. This is a Latin word that translates into "To See Voices. This is a clue towards the next episode "The Ghost Network."

    • Trivia: Walter's locker combination is "31", "41", and "59" these number make up the first six digits of PI, 3.14159.

    • Trivia: While the team is walking through the hospital to see the dead new-born, The Observer may be seen standing in the background.

  • QUOTES (11)

    • Phillip: What they realized was that the child wasn't just growing... it was aging.
      Peter Okay... hang on a sec. It's four a.m. so I'm a little foggy but we're supposed to believe that grandpa here was born four hours ago.

    • Walter: About my former colleague and his son. It's one of the inherent pitfalls of being a scientist, trying to maintain that distinction...between God's domain and our own. Sometimes I forget myself. But then, you already know that.
      Olivia: What do you mean?
      Walter: If you've read my file, then you know the truth about Peter's medical history. I've been meaning to ask you-
      Olivia: Walter. There was no mention of any medical history. Just his birthday.
      Walter: Oh. Uh-I was going to ask you to keep it between just the two of us, but-uh-I suppose then there's no need.

    • Peter: (over the phone) Walter, I am with a woman in her mid-twenties, she is going into cardiac arrest due to an overdose of anesthesia. (pauses) Her heart just stopped.
      Walter: Do you have any cocaine?
      Peter: Cocaine?! No, I don't have any cocaine.
      Walter: Oh, that's too bad. You'll have to shock her heart.

    • Broyles: Is he coming out?
      Peter: Well, that's unclear. He's currently in the car fiddling around with the seat warmer.
      Broyles: Dr. Bishop, hello. I appreciate you coming out tonight.
      Walter: I've never seen a feature like this before. It warms your ass. It's wonderful. Have you tried it?

    • Peter: Come on, Olivia, I can do this. My limited stint at M.I.T. did teach me something.

    • (Peter finds a jar with a severed hand in it)
      Peter: Friend of yours?
      Walter: Oh… I certainly hope not.

    • Olivia: I need a cross check of recent unsolved homicides. See if any bodies have turned up with a missing pituitary gland.
      Charlie: Oh, you say the sweetest things.
      Olivia: Only to you, Charlie.

    • Peter: And the killer's condition was passed on to the baby.
      Walter: Even condoms are not 100% effective. You two should be aware of this. That night he was going to kill her. But first they fornicated. Had intercourse, sex.
      Peter: Okay, we get it.

    • Peter: Something on your mind?
      Walter: Please. The term "on your mind" vexes me with its depictive inaccuracy.
      Peter: Aw, stop. Would you just talk like a person? What are you thinking?

    • Walter: Impatient! You always were.
      Peter: As if you ever knew me well enough to make a statement like that.
      Walter: Hah! You are a smart boy, but there is much you don't know.

    • Olivia: She offered me a job.
      Broyles: And what did you say to that?
      Olivia: I told her you were going to give me a raise.

  • NOTES (3)

    • Original International Air Dates:
      Sweden: October 9, 2008 on Kanal 5
      United Kingdom: October 12, 2008 on Sky1/Sky1 HD
      Norway: January 8, 2009 on Tvn
      Finland: January 12, 2009 on MTV3
      Thailand: February 14, 2009 on True Series
      Germany: March 23, 2009 on Pro7
      Hungary: March 27, 2009 on RTL-Klub
      Belgium: June 4, 2009 on RTBF2
      France: June 17, 2009 on TF1
      New Zealand: July 8, 2009 on TV2
      Poland: September 17, 2009 on TVN
      Slovakia: October 11, 2009 on Markiza
      Czech Republic: February 12, 2010 on Nova Cinema

    • Music: Young Men Dead (The Black Angels), Skin Head (The Black Angels)

    • This is the official time period premiere at 9:00p.m.

  • ALLUSIONS (1)

    • The Kip Brothers by Jules Verne
      This novel featured solving a crime by obtaining a latent image from the retina of the murder victim. Walter Bishop would have had to read this novel in the original French, since the first English language edition wasn't published until May 2007.

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