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I've got some bad news: Game of Thrones will not last forever, continuing on through our afterlife so that we can watch it for eternity on our little fluffy cloud couches in heaven. I know, I'm bummed too. So now the next question is: When will it end? Showrunners David Benioff and D.B. Weiss have teased seven or eight seasons as the magic number, and now we may be closer to a more definitive answer.

According to Variety, Benioff and Weiss are currently considering two more seasons after the quickly approaching Season 6! But it comes with a catch. Seasons 7 and 8 would be shorter than the usual 10 episodes. The current idea is six episodes for Season 7 and seven episodes for Season 8, for a total of just 13 episodes to wrap things up. However, it should be noted that this is just a fledgling plan and nothing is set in stone. They've only started sketching out the next season of the series. 

The 10-episodes-per-season plan has been nothing short of insanity, with months of writing, followed by shooting various episodes at different times over months in multiple locations , plus post production, which adds several additional months of work. Weiss told Variety that they're looking at a 12-to-14-month cycle to produce a single 10-episode season. 

Well, there are a couple of ways to look at this. First, it would mean two more seasons of Game of Thrones. But that would also mean not the 20 episodes that some of us expected. What do you think?

Game of Thrones returns for Season 6 on Thursday, April 24 at 9pm on HBO.


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I'd hate for it to drag on needlessly. If they could squeeze 15 episodes into a final season 7 I'd be good with that. I'm not getting any younger and would love to see a conclusion to the story.
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The thing about "cable brevity" is you have to cram a large number of characters and storylines into a very limited number of episodes. Shortened seasons will always compromise a show's story.
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Why has doing 10 episode seasons suddenly became such a big problem ? , they could make it work for 6 (!) seasons but now it's impossible ?
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This is the first season which goes beyond GRRM's books. Maybe the material and inspiration dried out?
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Maybe , but there are so many characters and storylines they could easily squeeze a few eps more out of it imo , like do an entire episode of Varys and tyrion drinking wine and talk about life , joking aside i don't think it should be a problem for them at all and i doubt HBO will approve of shorter seasons
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This isn't what I would call a shocking revelation, even the best of HBO's shows didn't go much past where GOT is at now as far as episode counts go, hell, Deadwood only went three seasons. Even the splitting up the final season into two shorter parts was done before with the Sopranos final run, and I'm sure HBO would be thrilled to have two more off-seasons of hype and red carpet premieres to bring them attention.
Bottom line is, HBO has a history of ending it's shows before there is a major drop-off in quality, and I'm more than fine with that approach, as long as it has a satisfying conclusion, no fade to black nonsense or Lost type of endings.
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So, when I first read this I was really against it, but the more I started thinking about it and breaking it down in my head, the more doable it seemed. By which I mean, closing out the show in another 13 episodes, rather than 20.

I do not like the idea of splitting it up into two shorter seasons. Ugh. Like others have said, just do 13 together, and if that means we have to wait more like 18 months rather than a year for the final season, big deal.

But yeah, I think the show could be wrapped up in that amount of episodes. My initial reaction was that there was still way too much to wrap up, but when I thought about it, I realized most of the current storylines could rather easily be wrapped up this season. The wild cards are kind of Dorne and the Greyjoys, since I'm not at all sure where we're going with them - the fact that they've cast new Greyjoys kind of indicates they're expanding that story, but then again, the introduction of the new characters could just be characters they feel they need to wrap up the Iron Islands. As for Dorne, I just have no idea what's going on with them - could they already be considered wrapped up? Kinda, I guess.

Anyway, but everything else - the King's Landing Lannister-Tyrell-Sparrow stuff, Arya's storyline, Tyrion and Dany wrapping things up in Meereen, Jon coming back to life and dealing with what's left of this Night's Watch/Wilding conflict (plus discovering his true parentage), Sansa taking back the North (please God tell me that's what she'll be doing this season) - I can easily see all of that getting wrapped up this season. So the final 13 episodes could begin with Dany's return to Westeros and deal mostly with this apocalyptic war with the White Walkers, which seems sufficient.
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If they need extra time between seasons, give them the time. Didn't HBO give The Sopranos 18-24 month hiatuses back in the day
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As long as they get the depth of storytelling right who cares?!
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PSA: There is more material that the show runners have elected to ignore / change. They have not actually passed the books. They condensed a couple of plots and dropped many of the others. They are not having to wait for Martin to write anything. They are actively avoiding covering what he has already written.
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Terrible idea. You have 13 episodes left after season 6, and you think it's a good idea to split that into TWO SEASONS? Why? Why in the hell would you do that? Just give us a 13 episode final season for s7. A supersized final season would be the stuff of fan's dreams! I'm pretty sure 95% wouldn't even mind waiting a few extra months for that kind of closure! Can you imagine the final 13 hours given to us week after week until the end? It would be one of the best gifts that fans of any show have ever been given and prove that the showrunners have us in mind, instead of "how long can we milk a paycheck out of this thing?". Which is counter-productive as possible, considering all the money and resources they would have to waste in order to make 2 seasons out of 13 episodes, instead of one.
I really hope Weiss and Benioff come to their senses here. They've already proven they care more about the story than most showrunners by admitting to only having 13 hours of real story left to tell. They could have kept that to themselves and given us 7 episodes of filler (hopefully not all at once) with us fans being none the wiser until it was too late.
PLEASE, David and D.B., give us the supersized final season we deserve!
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I hope it's true - less of the talky-talky more of the white walkers fucking everyone up

then goodbye to this overrated show never to be re-watched by me ever again
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That's what Breaking bad did they split up the final season into 2 seasons and there was like a year split between the 2. Probably the only mistake of that great series.
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To be fair that's not a mistake but a sound business decision, and if it were it would be AMC's mistake, not the show's.
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It's probably better to have this discussion after we've seen Season 6, right? We'd probably all have a different opinion after that fact.....maybe we will all want it to end next season as quickly as possible...LOL...and stretching the Final Season to 13 episodes over 2 and a half years might not be a bad idea....it kind of makes sense now that I've had time to process the info... xD
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This seasons ratings and quality will determine the desicion. If they didnt manage to deliver the same as usual they have to cut episodes an try to gain time for RR Martin to write something. A bad season can destroy a show (Lost) but here we arent talking about one season. They have 2 more at least. They can kill the golden goose which is the money for the network
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They are up to date with the books plus the fact the show cost of the show , I rather have a shorter season more condensed.
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They need to hire Peter Jackson. They could stretch it to at least 5 more full seasons that way.
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I like that news, I'm loving shows with short seasons. It can use the budget for the other episodes to make the episodes they're making better, and there'd be no fillers, the story wouldn't need stretching.
Especially last season felt like that it didn't have the same quality as the previous seasons.
As much as I love the show and I'll miss it, hopefully they'll end it with season 7.
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They have 2 more books (Over 2000 Pages) worth of material to cover and yet you hope they end it after a 7 episode 7th season. You're right the story wouldn't need stretching especially since the 6th series is still going to focus on events happening from a feast for crows and a dance with dragons. Why bother stretching the story when you can just skip right to the end ignoring important plot points along the way. If you truely think they could tie everything up in only 7 episodes you are crazy, especially since they have yet to cover the war for the dawn or the events afterwards which should take alot more than just 7 episodes to do.
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But they have already deviated from the books so much that it's not really comparable anymore. They are leaving out loads from the book, the shows is ignoring most of Dance with Dragons. Martin gave the writers the ending so they know what's important and what isn't (I'd hope).
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That's retarded. Make it a final season with 13 episodes.
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Probably to spread the HBO budget over 2 years instead of 1.
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And to be able to sell 2 more seasons of boxed sets..
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Wait, there's doubt?

1) They already passed the books

2) It's an expansive shows. If it drops just a little bit of profits it would be a disaster

3) The kids are growing up and can't stay kids for long

4) The show is too high profile that its actors become a name and naturally their salaries will go up. See #2

How long did people think this show would last?
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This makes a lot of sense. It's allows them to finish with 13 episodes instead of 10 (last I'd heard, D&D were leaning toward season 7 being the last), while also allowing people a little breathing space from an insane filming schedule.
Make them count, guys!
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This comment might be a trail balloon for HBO. Game of Thrones is essentially the only reason I'm subscribing to HBO at this point but if you read between the lines you hear the showrunners saying that 10 episodes need more than the year that HBO is giving them to complete. HBO on the other hand can't afford an 18 month interval between GoT seasons as subscribers like me won't wait that long before cancelling. 6-7 episode seasons give both sides what they want.

I do find it hard to believe they can tell the rest of the story in 13 episodes after this season. They've got a lot of storylines to complete this season if that's the case.
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What story? Essentially, there actually isn't that much story in the show if you think about it. Cut all the minor characters (like Briene) and you're basically left with the Stark kids, Danny, Tyrion and the question of who will be the king\queen.

And since the likely ending is (non spoiler, just a guess)


John Snow marries Danny and Tyrion will be the hand of the king thus bringing everyone together, you really see there isn't much needed to wrap things up.

Just get Danny to Westoros and have her dragons battle the ice zombie and call it a day.
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"John Snow marries Danny and Tyrion will be the hand of the king thus bringing everyone together..."

As much as that ending would make me happy, I think that will never happen. George R.R. Martin is a cruel man (haha, only to his charcters, but you know what I mean), and I honestly cannot see him writing such a "happy ending."
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That doesn't have to be a happy ending. It can be an insanely tragic one. Either way, it is the only ending that makes any sort of sense.
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This doesn't sound good. Of course, Winds of Winter and Dreams of Spring may turn out to be nothing more than pamphlets with a dozen pages in each. But, I'm guessing that that won't be the case.
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Well, if someone could make three movies that runs for almost eight hours in total from "The Hobbit" I'm sure they can make something out of those pamphlets too. ;)
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This sounds like a bad idea. It sounds like the main issue is that they produce episodes at the rate of ten a year, not that there isn't enough story for twenty episodes. As others have said below, clearly the best solution is to spread out the season a bit more - maybe have a year break to give them some breathing room. Many great shows have had a year off or have at least pushed the season release dates until later in the year. If that screws up the actors' contracts tough!

If they're going to run out of story (which I doubt) then they should just make the final season shorter. The reason I doubt it is that we don't even know whether there will be 7 or 8 books yet. Martin must therefore have given them heaps of material. If the 7th book is the last then, being the climax of massive fantasy saga, it will presumably be even more dense with plot and massive moments than A Storm of Swords. So they should have plenty of story for twenty more episodes.
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"As others have said below, clearly the best solution is to spread out the season a bit more - maybe have a year break to give them some breathing room. Many great shows have had a year off or have at least pushed the season release dates until later in the year. If that screws up the actors' contracts tough!"

This is probably no that easy to do, for technical, contractual, and commercial reasons. A show that leaves the air for 2 years will take a hit, marketing- and audience-wise.
I'm thinking they've always needed 13 episodes/season but that's not possible (unless you don't mind a few deaths by exhaustion), and wanted the show to last 7 seasons, so they have this compromise with 13 epsiodes spread over 2 seasons.
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I say cancel the show after next year, and then give us patient fans a 2 part BIG BUDGET movies
#ADREAMOFSPRING
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Make it 3, so we could be talking about 9 hours. and I'm with you.
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"Game of Thrones: A Dream of Spring - Part 1" does seem very on point for a current movie title.
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the show is writing it's own story by now. there have been so man changes from books that it would be impossible to get same ending.

And TBQH I'm getting increasingly underimpressed by it all.
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Since they've already gone past the books, it's probably not got much steam left in it. I can see the last two seasons being used to wrap up stories and bring characters together. If anything they should just do seven seasons since they likely won't have any more book material to draw from.

It's probably best that they wrap things up. Then when the series is finished they can go back and do the books more faithfully. But considering how popular the show has been, I would expect movie adaptations of the books.
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I doubt it. Presumably the content for the last two seasons will be the most intense, action-packed of the entire series. There's no way A Dream of Spring would be just wrap up and they are still generally following the same story.
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They should wait a decade and a half if going the reboot route:/
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Considering that they have bypassed half the source material already trying to shortcut the story, I can't say I'm surprised that they want to cut things down even further. All they wanted was to get to the Red Wedding. They have stated this numerous times. Perhaps spoilers will be minimized by the reduced seasons, too; no way every plot that they know about (and I doubt they know every one, either) is going to be touched on in such short seasons. At this point, we have to worry about them sabotaging the show, I think. They have given audiences and actors the finger so often, I almost think they want to see what they can get away with, as the media has crawled up their collective asses and died there, and they are assured of accolades no matter what steaming piles they drop.
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I'd rather them take 3 years to do 2 full, ten episode seasons, than cut the number of episodes. Do a GoT 2hr movie for HBO in the year off if necessary - but I hate it when shows essentially split the final season in half. I hated it when Breaking Bad did it - and I hate it just as much now.

That said I'd rather have 6 or 7 great eps than 10 meh ones so if they decide they can only do 6 or 7 so be it - why is this just now becoming a problem though? Is there not enough material for 2 full seasons? Are they afraid to deviate from the (supposedly) upcoming books too much?
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"but I hate it when shows essentially split the final season in half. I hated it when Breaking Bad did it - and I hate it just as much now."

To be fair, circumstances are not the same at all. In Breaking bad's case it was clearly AMC milking the show for as long as possible, and airing 1 already filmed production season over 2 TV seasons. They've done it with other shows as well.
In GoT's case, this is a case of the right number of episodes being to high for a regular production cycle, so they split it over 2 production cycles.
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"I'd rather them take 3 years to do 2 full, ten episode seasons, than cut the number of episodes."

Why are you assuming this is cutting the number of episodes? I read here they were planning to do only 7 seasons, which in my book makes this annoucement a 3-episode increase.
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then make season 7 be 13 episodes - it's not that hard - but to go from 10 to 6 or 7 is a 30% decrease in amount of show per year - no big money wise i'll just cancel hbo after 2 months instead of 3 - but that is a long wait for a show that up until now has ALWAYS been 10 episodes a season. whatever - doesn't matter what i or you or any of us think - they're gonna do what they're gonna do but cutting ep counts is a crappy strategy to me. look at this year's Doctor Who - oh wait you can't cause there is none other than the xmax ep - and i'd rather have it that way that get 6 this year and 7 next - that's some bullshit in my book - but maybe that's just me...
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Of course a 13-episode season would be better.
The thing is, it's just not possible without pushing the airdates back a few months, and that is probably very difficult (problems with contracts, with airing the show at a different time of year, etc.)
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The more I keep hearing from Weiss and Benioff these days, the more concerned I become with the future of the series, and the more I roll my eyes at their promises or dilemmas. All that after a lackluster 5th season, too.

If it really takes longer than 12 months to get everything properly done in time and if there are no possible improvements to be made (all that cut content must also count for some extra minutes...) towards smoothing out the process, then the obvious solution would be to have a slightly longer hiatus between each respective season.
If season 7 took 12-14 months to arrive rather than the usual ~10 months, people would most likely survive without mortal casualties. Plus there is always this added bonus in providing GRRM with more time to actually write.
Other shows have done or are doing it already: Marco Polo and (most likely) Sense8 on Netflix, or Banshee on Cinemax (which still resulted in cutting two episodes from the usual batch, alas).


Only six and seven episodes in a season after such a long wait would feel really lacking, and weird. Banshee is already in the process of breaking my heart with only 8 episodes to offer - it's such an odd sensation when you stop to consider that a 3rd or 4th episode of a season can already mark 50% of its entirety.
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"If season 7 took 12-14 months to arrive rather than the usual ~10 months, people would most likely survive without mortal casualties. Plus there is always this added bonus in providing GRRM with more time to actually write.
Other shows have done or are doing it already: Marco Polo and (most likely) Sense8 on Netflix, or Banshee on Cinemax (which still resulted in cutting two episodes from the usual batch, alas)."

That's not as easy. HBO has a yearlong schedule to consider, with other shows and movies etc. Netflix don't have these constraints, they can do whatever they want. And cutting the number of episode is the last thing D&D want for GoT.
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I wouldn't dare to begin to guess what D&D might want for the show, but their actions don't always feel me with great confidence.

Like I said, it's not just Netflix (being the epitome of flexibility) that has done something of the sort. Cinemax for Banshee, Starz for Spartacus and Outlander, etc. HBO could certainly come up with a different schedule for their most prized possession, if need be. The president of the network makes it clear on every occassion how much he would like for the show to go on.
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I know right??? I've never heard of 6 or 7 episodes in a series for as long as I could remember...LOL....this news is getting me concerned as well....I was pretty excited for Season 6....but now I'm dreading it will be even worse than last season, and they end up destroying this show entirely!!! T^T Fingers crossed after Season 6 we'll still be hopeful about the future of and possible conclusion to GoT The TV Series!!!!
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Never watched Sherlock from the UK? A season is 3 episodes and maybe a Christmas special...
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And anything from 18 months to 3 years between seasons...
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Isn't Sherlock a Mini-Series not a TV Series? and isn't one episode like 90 minutes long....each episode is basically a mini-movie if I'm not mistaken. I never thought GoT was a mini-series....and if that's what they want....then they should have done it like that from the beginning, right?
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I understand starting a series with a shortened first season to test if it will be a success or not....but this is not the case for GoT - they know it will be a success! &_&
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It wouldn't be so bad if the 6-7 episodes were 90 minutes long
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The Walking Dead, Fear the walking dead and Into the Badlands from AMC always started their first season show with only 6 episodes. ^o^
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They could always spread it out even more, and have a year and a half break between seasons. Or have a season every 2 years. George R.R. Martin should either finish his next book by then. But then, if they space it out even further he'll probably die before finishing the last book.
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This trend of splitting and bloating the final season of a TV show or a film of a movie series into two needs to die a horrible death.

If you can do it in 13 episode, you can finish it in one season with 1 or 2 extra episode over the usual 10.
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It should go on forever. If showrunners are tired/bored/whatever, bring in new ones!
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Even Martin sees the end as a bunch of headstones in a large graveyard so this will NOT go on forever. They could always do another series based off the Dunk and Egg (Hedge Knight) books. I'd certainly watch that...
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What if the actors are tired/bored/whatever? :p
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Doubtful, but actors can be replaced too.
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True for minor characters....but I don't think you can replace Daenerys or Tyrion or Arya etc. without getting death threats from fans...LOL....even though I still don't think the problem lies with actors being tired or bored....showrunners probably....but for sure not actors &_&
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Imagine being an actor on this show.....I'd never in a million years get bored or tired a day in my life....LOL
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I'm also quite shocked at the revelation that there's only 13 episodes of content left for the entire GoT series!!!?? Is anyone else shocked too? I thought there'd be plenty of story left to tell and/or even play with.........With this many characters in such a ginormous world, there cannot be only 13 episodes left of story to tell after this season, can it? Isn't there still a 7th book to come?

I have a feeling the pressure of all this is starting to get to them, especially when there's no more source material for them to adapt. They never had this problem to deal with in seasons past....and now with so much expectations set....the pressure is on for them to deliver on something that's not even set in stone yet.....looks like it's tough days ahead for the showrunners!! Glad I'm not in their shoes right now....LOL
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Its 13 episodes after the 10 of Season 6. So a minimum of 23 episodes left from where stand at the moment.
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I would like to give them the 10 to 12 months they said they'd like, but i'm not in favor of them doing cut seasons like that. If it's only going to be around 13 episodes, they should just take an extra month or two if they need it and air it as one final season. Stretching it out like that is lame.
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If the showrunners need more time to make a ten episode season....then I don't see why not give them more time?? I'm totally OK with waiting as long as we get the episodes each season.....even if it means we have to wait an extra 6 months or something...I have no problems with that. But a shortened 6 episode 7th Season??? Hell, NO! 10 episodes are already short enough compared to other shows that have 12 to 13 episodes.....I'm surprised with the success they are having there's no more demands of the extra 3 episodes each season....LOL...
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i'm pretty much on board with that - i'd rather wait and get at least 10 episodes - which is 3 below the minimum of 13 for most shows - so indeed I'd rather wait - 10 episodes is already way low!
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That isn't good. If with a 10 episode season we get 3 good episodes. That is only 30%. If that is likely to continue with the next two seasons. That is 1.8 for season Seven and 2.1 for Season Eight, for a total of 3.9 good episodes for the last 2 seasons. And that is only if they can manage to keep Tyrion alive for one of his speeches.

That is pretty shitty considering the vast amount of content that they have to work with. Are they that incompetent as writers that now they don't have any freaking clue how to fill 10 episodes. Seriously, if this was any other profession you lot would be fired. The even sadder fact is that you are likely going to bring people back to life that have absolutely no bearing on the overall story rather than shorten the cast and expand on their stories. So even with the shortened seasons, you are incapable to fill it with quality content.

I was skeptical about turning the books into movies as some rumors had. But after these morons get done with it, i kind of hope it does get turned into movies. Because these people are jokes.
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10 chapters is already a short season, and now even shorter.....
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I'd rather have a extra long season of 13 epsiodes than two shorter seasons spaced a year apart.

I don't care how many episodes are left. I care that the story is probably told and completed in the epsiodes they do. I don't want to watch bad filler, I want every moment to be incredible. We are nearing the best part with winter almost here and the white walkers. I don't want important stuff cut or fast-tracked just to get it in within the aloted episode number but I also don't want tons of filler to stretch the story out forever.
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If I had extra millions, instead of donating them to charity (medical research, environmental conservation, children's education, etc.) I would give them to Benioff and Weiss so that they could churn out more episodes. That would be a better investment than charitable causes. Screw the welfare of our suffering planet and people in need, I want my GoT episodes!
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I'd first give to Joss Whedon whatever is necessary for 7 to 10 seasons of Firefly (or whatever he wants to do, really), then yes, the remaining would be put to good use for GoT.
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HBO has far too many of their eggs in one giant GoT basket and should not be in any hurry to let it end without very carefully planning and developing a series or two that can draw in ratings and subscriptions like GoT has for them now, or how shows like The Wire and The Sopranos did in the past. With Showtime still offering a decent variety of quality shows and now Starz and even Cinemax pushing further into the original programming world, to say nothing of the massive freight train that is Netflix, HBO really needs to up their content game if they want to still have a seat at the premium network table.
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I am really going to miss GoT and I suspect HBO will as well. Without another tent pole show to carry the network - like GoT is right now - I'm sure subscriptions will suffer. There's a lot of crap on premium cable and most of it is on HBO.
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I feel quite certain there will be a spinoff/prequel set either in the near past so some characters we know could be in it - or set way, way in the past with long dead relatives of certain characters. HBO would be crazy not to do it...
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As long as Hodor first of his name , sits on the Iron Throne and all of Westeros bends the knee I don't care how many episodes it takes for the show to get there.
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Hodor Hodor Hodor Hodor
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