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Game of Thrones is packed with fascinating characters, but how many of them can say they squeezed a shadow assassin baby out of their nether regions as part of some dark magic? Just one, the bewitching Red Priestess known as Melisandre. I summoned the Lord of Light to get actress Carice van Houten on the phone for a quick chat about Season 4, and we discussed Melisandre's relationship with Stannis, what it's like to play "evil," and why more people aren't following her beloved Lord of Light.


How much of Melisandre will we see this season?

I would say it's a light season for the Baratheons, for the Dragonstone household. But there will be a few good, long meaty scenes. And for Melisandre, it's nice that we will see her have more scenes with women, she'll have an interaction with Stannis's daughter and Stannis's wife. I really like that, it's different.


Last season we saw Melisandre go off on her own a bit. Is she tied to Stannis this season? Will we be seeing less of Stannis?

I think so. That whole storyline with Davos and Stannis is quite light this year. 


Boo! Well, last year Melisandre and Stannis were discussing a trip up to the Wall, as seen in the flames by the Lord of Light. Will they be taking that trip?

Well, you see them start that. I can't really say.


How do you think Melisandre will do in the cold?

Well she has magical powers, so she'll make sure she's warm. Myself, I am going to be freezing.


I don't know if this is fair to say, but Melisandre is perceived as an evil character. How do you see Melisandre?

I wouldn't say her methods are, per se, very nice. But I still would like to believe that she's doing it for a greater good, at least that's what she makes us think. And that's the only way I can play it, because if you just play evil then you'll just play Wicked Stepmother, with an evil eye. What's interesting is to play someone who does evil things, but while thinking or believing that they're good things. I think that's why evil people, or as we call them evil, are actually evil. Because they justify their deeds, that's why they believe in it. That's why it gets scary. I don't think people that we consider evil think that they're doing evil things, that's the scary part.


She's doing these things as part of her religion, because she follows the Lord of Light. And in Westeros, there are all these other religions—the seven gods, the one true god—but you don't see a lot of proof of them existing. However, the Lord of Light seems pretty real to me! So I'm sitting here wondering why more people don't follow the Lord of Light.

I know! I'm trying! [laughs] I'm doing all I can, thank you! Like all new things, it may take a little time. It's a long religion they've been following, the seven gods. It's hard to move on. 


Well if I saw even one shadow baby, I'd be convinced.

Yeah exactly. [laughs]


The relationship between Stannis and Melisandre seems pretty one-sided. She's gotten Stannis to fall in love with her. But does Melisandre have any romantic feelings for Stannis?

I don't think it's romantic, I think it's more practical. I think she adores him in a sense that she's convinced he's the chosen one. It's more admiring, it's not so much a sexual thing. 


Do you think Melisandre has any selfish goals in helping Stannis become the king? Or is she just serving the Lord of Light?

I can't really say. I can't say much about that. 


Where would you like to see Melisandre end up when the series is done?

Somewhere warm. [laughs]


Would you like to see her victorious, or punished for her actions?

I don't know, as long as it's spectacular!


Which country do you think has the best Game of Thrones fans?

I haven't been traveling that much, to be honest, so I don't know. But if I check my Twitter account, there are a lot of Spanish fans, but also in Malaysian and the Philippines, I get a lot of tweets from the Philippines. But I haven't been to Comic-Con, and I think that's where the real fans are. 


Game of Thrones returns for Season 4 this Sunday, April 6 at 9pm on HBO.


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Carice as always a spirited lady that deserves much better parts than she did get so far. I hope her stint on GoT will get her more work that her talent deserves as well.
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In the Netherlands she is probably the most popular actress around, and she got a lot of good roles in Dutch movies. So it's nice to see she now plays in Game of Thrones and is able to make the rest of the world see her.

P.S. she does a lot of nudity in the Dutch movies, so I'd advice you all to learn Dutch and watch them :D
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Tim, please ignore the people ragging on you for your critical reviews. You're doing exactly what a reviewer is supposed to, even if people who read them don't always agree with your assessment.
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Man, she was going to be my "Countdown to Game of Thrones Season 4" number 4.

Either way this is an awesome interview. I can't wait to see what Malisandre does this season!
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Ughh, so the Baratheons will continue to get the shaft on stroylines this season. At least they won't be able to completely ignore them in season 5. Oh well, it sounds like they'll make the few scenes count, so theres that. I love Van Houten, say what you want about Melisandre, but Van Houten aces the role in my opinion.
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?!?!?! whaaat ? hahahahaha LOL ... oh the online bullying,
Come on , you guys are losers. If you don't like his reviews , don't read them. And in general : get a life maybe ?! If you're getting this upset about articles on Tv shows .... lol ...Well, just go get checked.
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Stannis didn't fall in love with Melissandre. Are you an idiot, Tim? Did you even watch the show at all? I'm betting on idiot, because we all know you tried to watch it. Tried, and FAILED.
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Not everyone has to like the same things you do, imo Tim's a great reviewer. If you don't like his articles don't read them.. it's that simple.
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He doesn't have to like it, of course not. He is however being very intellectually dishonest. I pointed out a mistake in his perception of what happened in the series. He is a reviewer, he can't be lazy to the point of "misunderstanding" important and clear details in the story. Thinking that Stannis is in love with Melissadre is a mistake only a casual viewer would make. Even so, a mistake that many who are paying attention don't make. On that matter, I do not think Tim phrased that specific question innocently. I don't care if he likes the show or not, but as a reviewer his job is to notice details and analyze them with regard to the overall story. He should not be letting his own opinion get the best of him and effectively joke about certain plot points dishonestly. Or should I say, with lies.
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It's sloppy at best but it doesn't give you the right to call him an idiot. Atleast try to keep things respectful whenever you're pointing out mistakes, or write your own reviews if you believe you can do better.
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Oh and one more thing. No I don't like his articles, but this is an interview about a show I'm a fan of. I don't read his reviews, obviously but I should be able to expect that his interviews are conducted in a professional manner. Well, from now on I can certainly say I will no longer expect that from HIM.
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lol funny ....
TO ME it just sounds like you DESPERATELY want his job ... hahaha . get it together people ..
Don't worry about what his job is a) and b) stay off his reviews if he doesn't meet your "expectations" , he and every one else here OBVIOUSLY don't care about them :)
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Does she know you don't like any of the shows you review? I guarantee on my life you'll make fun of her/her character in one of your reviews this year. You are a consistent joke, and yes to answer your question I am purposely going out of my way to chastise you and make sure as many people possible know you are a joke.

All that being said, even you couldn't screw up THIS article, so this was interesting.
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So now you'll be plowing through every of Tim's reviews this year until you're sure you don't have to end your life? Hilarious.
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Yup, exactly !!! hahahah get a life please,....ts ts ts
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He even spelled the name wrong...it's Carice van Houten!
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Congratulations , you got it right ! Your life makes sense now , huh ? hahahah
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