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Game of Thrones S04E07: "Mockingbird"


So I think I made a lot of enemies last week for saying that "The Laws of Gods and Men" was my least favorite episode of the season so far, and I think I'm going to make a lot more enemies by saying that "Mockingbird" was one of my favorites, if early comments about the episode being full of filler are any indication. I think I'm slowly figuring out what I like about Game of Thrones, and *gulp* it's often the soapier stuff. Of course, Game of Thrones' more melodramatic elements don't feature identical twins and eyepatches (at least until Beric Dondarrion returns), but they do involve familial lines, history, and revenge! And that's what most of what "Mockingbird" was about: sisters hating brothers, brothers hating brothers, brothers avenging sisters, sisters getting jealous of sisters, brothers not able to serve as champion for their brothers, and Daario's butt. 

It all made for an hour where a longtime investment in the series paid off. The events of "Mockingbird" weren't always about the present, but how the present was affected by the past. There were so many callbacks to previous seasons and backstory that the episode felt quite rewarding, and the needle moved on so many important plots that I don't see how anyone could say it was boring. Not to mention the fact that no one visited the bank!

I've already seen "Mockingbird" called a "talky" episode, and that may be true, but the talking was GOOD. It illuminated many of Game of Thrones' characters in ways we've never seen before. And I'd gladly put the scenes at the Eyrie up against any of Game of Thrones' best, and in my book, they'd stand their ground. Don't mess this up like you did last week, Rotten Tomatoes, I'm certifying this episode extra fresh. 

Grab a loaf of wolfbread and let's talk about what happened in "Mockingbird."


"It is rare to meet a Lannister who shares my enthusiasm for dead Lannisters." —Oberyn Martell


Everything that happened in King's Landing this week revolved around setting up a fight, as if Cersei and Tyrion were two promoters getting Bum Fights 2 off the ground. And the advantages and disadvantages between the siblings that've existed all their lives—with Cersei having every privilege handed to her and Tyrion taking his lumps for being a dwarf—extended to the search for a champion. While Tyrion was withering away in a dingy cell asking anyone who visited to fight for him, Cersei walked out into the garden and demanded the services of a man who could eat Lou Ferrigno for breakfast: the Mountain! He was outside practicing fatalities on unfortunate human pincushions plucked from Flea Bottom, and immediately made it clear that he's pretty darned good at murdering guys who look like this:


But is that really something to be proud of? A strong breeze could've killed those wimps! They wouldn't've just been picked last in Dodgeball, they would've BEEN the ball! Does this even count as training for the Mountain? Does Vladimir Klitschko fight Girl Scouts before a heavyweight fight? Does LeBron James play one-on-one against a hamster before the NBA finals? Does Joey Chestnut eat cocktail weenies before the annual Nathan's Famous Hot Dog Eating competition? What I'm saying is, I could handle these guys with a toothpick and some harsh words. And I don't mean to take anything away from the Mountain because he is a marvel among murderers, but his competition was basically Christian Bale from The Machinist

At least the Mountain made the kills count, though. This disemboweling made me particularly happy:


So Cersei chose the Mountain as her champion; he's the most feared, brutal, and accomplished swordsman in the Seven Kingdoms (remember, this is a guy who decapitated his horse in Season 1 because it was checking out a mare during a joust). And Tyrion has... uhhh, Jaime? Nope, Jaime was like, "I can't kill him with seven hands, let alone one hand." Bronn? Nope, the man who defended Tyrion at the Eyrie has already pushed his luck enough, and now he has a bride on the horizon. But before we get to the surprise last guest, let me just say that Tyrion's conversations with both Jaime and Bronn were fantastic—"Mockingbird" was full of great conversations, and Jaime expressing his disappointment in Tyrion's decision and Bronn shrugging his shoulders to say, "I gotta do what's best for Bronn" were both wonderfully effective ways of making Tyrion's situation even more dire. 

But Tyrion apparently still has knack for getting his ass saved at the last minute, as we saw when Oberyn "The Red Viper" Martell slithered into Tyrion's cell for a powwow about their mutual disdain for Cersei. I loved Oberyn's story about meeting Tyrion as a baby and how it painted Cersei as a horrible shrew even when she was a little girl. Seeing an opportunity to check two items off his to-do list at once, Oberyn volunteered to be Tyrion's champion as a means of avenging his sister's death and pissing off Cersei. And it's a good thing he did, too, because the next episode is titled "The Mountain and the Viper." Pedro Pascal has been amazing all season long as Oberyn, but this scene was his biggest highlight yet. Someone give this guy an award. 

So it's the Mountain versus the Red Viper, probably. The Mountain can chop down scared ninnies who don't even weigh 100 pounds, and the Red Viper can swing a sword like no one else... in the sack. We know that Oberyn is supposed to be a great warrior who knows his poisons, and we know that the Mountain has killed more people than malaria. So we must ask...


"The pain was bad. The smell was worse." —The Hound

Arya and the Hound continued terrorizing the countryside in "Mockingbird," putting a man out of his misery even though I'm not sure he really asked for it. But he should have asked for it after Arya spouted off that angsty teenage philosophy that no one wanted to hear! "Nothing isn't better or worse than anything. Nothing is just nothing." When you're struggling through your dying breaths, the last thing you need to hear is an emo poem from an unflowered girl. The guy's "just kill me now" look said it all:


But it wasn't long before the Hound apparently got bored of what the old man had to say about equality and fairness in society, killing the old man dead and turning the death clock ahead by about five minutes. Bye, old man! I don't know why you were in this episode!

Then a couple bounty hunters came after the Hound, including one of Yoren's prisoners from way back in Season 2. I didn't catch his name at first, but Arya did (it's Rourge), and then she did this: 

But the good chunk of Arya and the Hound's story this week wasn't the part where they killed people, it was the part where they sat down and talked. Yes, "Mockingbird" had its fair share of yapping, but it was good yapping, and the Hound gabbing about his brother the Mountain was one of those defining character moments that allowed us to really feel like we knew this guy. As Game of Thrones has progressed, I've alternated between "Good doggy!" and "Bad doggy!" with regard to the Hound; he's one of the show's most complex characters, a man who will save the day one week and ruin it the next. But his confession that his family abandoned him suddenly transforms him into one of the show's easiest-to-understand characters. The guy's a big softie, just like the rest of us. He's haunted by his brother shoving his face into a fire (a story Littlefinger told Sansa back in Season 1) and his dad lying about the incident to protect his brother. Growing up in a household like that might've turned you into a weird loner with a hermit's code, too. 

The Hound's revelation was a moment of vulnerability for a character who's otherwise been so guarded that we can now see him in a different light. (That's why Jaime and the Hound are two of the show's best written characters; they're so multi-dimensional, and their backstories emphasize the importance of perspective.) Arya also has a new outlook on the Hound: The two have more in common than she'd like to admit with the broken families and the sibling rivalries, but the Hound's situation may have been even worse than her own. It's no wonder the Hound has taken Arya under his wing and is trying to teach her how to survive out in the world (awwww, "that's where the heart is"). He sympathizes with her. And now Arya sympathizes back. 


"Very well, do what you do best." *pours wine* "Take off your clothes." —Daenerys Targaryen

After a hard day of freeing slaves and paying goat herders for the livestock that her dragons torched, even queens need a little sumpin'-sumpin' to relax. And Dany finally threw up her hands and agreed to make sweet love to Daario after the dashing rogue's persistence reached levels of breaking and entering. Let "Mockingbird" be a lesson to all you hopeless romantics out there: Stalking and boasting about your bedroom swagger is a natural aphrodisiac. Or maybe Dany just wanted to get it over with? There was some odd back-and-forth flirting from Khaleesi in this scene; it went from threatening to have him kicked out of her crib to drinking a glass of wine and playing dominatrix. 


Daario? More like Derrierio, right? BUTT. SHOT. Daario swearing that his sword is all Dany's has a different meaning now, doesn't it? There's only one thing that could've made this scene better: a BOIIINNGGGGG sound effect. Sure, 2014 may officially be the Year of the McConaughey, but there's got to be another calendar out there calling it the Year of the Huisman. Michiel Huisman's on-screen conquests in the past year include Rayna James (Nashville's Connie Britton), Sarah Manning (Orphan Black's Tatiana Maslany), and Daenerys Targaryen (Game of Thrones' Emilia Clarke)? (And let's not forget Treme's Lucia Micarelli before that.) Someone get this man a trophy and a bag of ice for his nethers. 

Ser Jorah ran into Daario on his walk of shame ("She's in a good mood," Daario noted), and immediately expressed his jealousy concern to Dany over Daario's trustworthiness. The conversation quickly turned to matters in Yunkai, as Daario was headed there to slaughter all the slave masters under orders from Dany. Jorah pleaded with Dany to show more mercy, and we heard the same debate all over again. I know it's not easy ruling an entire region, but Dany has been waffling on her policy ever since she took Meereen. Her gut tells her to kill and crucify anyone who's associated with the evils of slavery, but her advisers, and the occasional innocent victim, sometimes convince her to do otherwise. I'm just looking for some consistency from the Khaleesi, instead of this constant flip-flopping. And now she wants Jorah to make sure Daario knows that Jorah was the one who changed her mind. Is she setting up Jorah and Daario to compete for her? This woman is playing games all over the place. Also, sweet outfit, girl. 


"We need to prepare." —Jon Snow


A quick stop at Castle Black revealed that arguing about the potency of Mance Rayder's oncoming Wildling army is like explaining the dangers of climate change to a dusty Republican senator. Without Lord Commander Mormont around to listen to reason, hard-headed Alliser Thorne put up his own dense wall of insulation, completely ignoring Jon's firsthand experience and logical foresight. The time that Jon spent embedded with Mance is still a sore spot for the Night's Watch, but you'd think that after proving himself again with the raid on Craster's Keep, Jon would get a little more respect. Nope. Alliser has it out for Jon, and all Jon received as thanks for his words of wisdom was Wall duty until the next full moon, which means he'll have to listen to Samwell gush about Gilly while freezing his butt off. The torture!  


"It's only flesh, it needs what it needs." —Melisandre

Despite being an odd inclusion into the episode (this could have easily ended up in the deleted scenes portion of the DVD set), this scene was magnificently put together and showed us a lot more about a character than we initially thought. When I interviewed Carice van Outen before the season started, she remarked how excited she was for this scene with Selyse because we never get to see Melisandre in a scene with another woman. And it's totally true. When Melisandre is with men, she's either burning people at the stake, oozing undeniable sexuality to dominate, or oozing a shadow baby out of her hoo-ha.   

But here with her gal pal Selyse, she's shockingly available. She still dominates her company, this time by hanging out in the nude comfortably and ostentatiously because she knows her sultriness and sexuality is her power over Stannis and, by extension, Selyse. But she speaks with Selyse casually—even making a joke (work on that punchline, Mel)—and plays off Selyse's steely faith to admit some truths. Melisandre may be the Red Priestess, but she's also a practitioner of parlor tricks to steer men to the Lord of Light. We never knew how much of Melisandre's show was legitimate magic, but now we know that at least part of it is just applying what she learned from her high-school alchemy class. All of a sudden, it makes a lot more sense why she was so impressed with Beric Dondarrion and his actual abilities given to him by the Lord of Light.  

Melisandre's not entirely a fraud, she's just damn good at serving the Lord of Light. Whether it be convincing men about his power through firework displays or convincing Selyse to bring her daughter on their dangerous trip to the North, Melisandre knows exactly how to exploit her target's weaknesses in the name of her lord. But why does the Lord of Light need Shireen to go on their trip?


"Yes m'lady. No, m'lady." —Podrick Payne


Poor Pod! Being with Brienne is a bit of a drag after squiring for Tyrion, the man of earthly delights. He's not allowed to get drunk because Brienne is straightedge and her idea of luxury is spending a night at an inn. But it thanks to their "fancy" lodging this week that they crossed paths with Hot Pie (yay!), who delivered the most over-detailed George R.R. Martin-esque dialogue about the perfect kidney pie. And once they were out of earshot from potentially dangerous eavesdroppers, Hot Pie told Brienne and Pod that the last time he'd seen Arya, the Brotherhood Without Banners wanted to sell Arya to her family for ransom, and Pod figured out that Lysa was Arya's last living relative with money, so she's probably there. That's why Pod and Brienne make a good team; they really complement each other, with Brienne's sense of duty and Pod's knowledge adding up to something greater than the sum of their parts. #TrueDetectiveSeason2 right?


"Given the opportunity, what do we do to those who hurt those we love?" —Petyr "Littlefinger" Baelish 


Awww yeah, all the Eyrie stuff in "Mockingbird" was awesome to the max. We actually saw Sansa experience a moment of happiness; she was totally free of worry as she built a snowcastle of Winterfell. Even Robin's developmentally stunted attitude with regard to criminal justice ("When I grow up I will be able to fly anybody who bothers me!") couldn't derail her feelings of joy, and all of a sudden a foreign object crept across her face, breaking the laws of gravity and shattered princess dreams. Yes, Sansa smiled!  

Of course the smile was short-lived, because Robin knocked over one of Winterfell's towers, reminding Sansa that her home and family had been destroyed. Or rather, I assume that's how Sansa interpreted the kid's destruction of her handiwork, because she kind of flipped out and smacked him in the face. It was totally uncalled-for, but oh-so gratifying for us. Robin is a terror to everyone, a Joffrey without the class. So let's watch this slap on repeat for about three hours, and pay particular attention to Robin's face when he realizes what just happened.

Littlefinger came down with a pimp walk and a new accent ("His mom shoood haf done that a lawng time agooooooo.") and then all the uncomfortable tension that'd been building up between these two exploded when Littlefinger, a full two inches shorter than Sansa, close-talked about how Sansa was even more beautiful than her mother before planting a smooch on her. EEEEEEK! Creeeeeeepy! Is it important to note that Sansa did not pull away? Did Littlefinger time it just right so that Lysa would witness the kiss? Would it surprise anyone if Littlefinger engineered that moment on purpose? The guy is a master manipulator. This is Littlefinger's world, we're just living in it. 

Lysa's chat with Sansa following the incident was the expected bout of kooky insanity, but also a very illuminating explanation of the intricacies of the Moon Door. Lysa talked about how they find bodies broken into pieces down below, and how sometimes they'll just find a head. What I want to know is, is it someone's job to go down there and confirm that the victims who take flight have perished? Do they go down there and clean things up? How would Lysa know how the bodies end up if someone wasn't on body-scraping duty? That seems like a pretty lousy job if you ask me. Not only do you get bits of bone and blood under your fingernails, but the walk to and fro the splash area must take hours. No thanks!

Littlefinger arrived just in time to save Sansa from becoming the next piece of splatter art down below the Moon Door, and he was able to calm Lysa down by reassuring her that he'd only ever loved one woman. 


I'll let Arnie put the words in Littlefinger's mouth:


So good! Now that Lysa's out of the way, does Littlefinger remain Lord of the Vale, or does that honor transfer to Robin? Will Robin make like a bird and fly? Will Littlefinger take Sansa as his bride so he can grab a foothold in the North and have the next best thing to Catelyn Stark? Is Sansa now in a worse situation than she was before? Just an awesome punctuation mark on an awesome episode. I can't wait to see what happens next.



WEEKLY POWER RANKINGS


Each week, I'll rank the episodes of Season 4 from best to worst. But remember, these are just my opinions! Feel free to post your own in the comments!

This week: The perfect combination of meaningful character-building discussions, sudsy shocks, and showy violence, "Mockingbird" was everything that Game of Thrones should be. The number-two slot might seem a little high to some viewers, but I've been waiting years to see Lysa get pushed out the Moon Door, and the scene did not disappoint one bit. Season 4 is charging full-steam ahead the finale approaches, and there are still plenty of awesome events coming. Get excited, people!

1. "The Lion and the Rose" (Episode 2)

2. "Mockingbird" (Episode 7)

3. "First of His Name" (Episode 5)

4. "Breaker of Chains" (Episode 3)

5. "Oathkeeper" (Episode 4)

6. "Two Swords" (Episode 1)

7. "The Laws of Gods and Men" (Episode 6)



NOTES FROM THE RAVENS

– The new Mountain is played by six-foot-nine-inch Icelandic strongman Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson. "Icelandic strongman" and "played the Mountain on Game of Thrones" is one hell of a resumé. And holy Seven Gods, look at the size of that sword! It's like five Tyrions long!

– There's been some uproar from book readers over the alteration of Littlefinger's last line. In the novel, instead of "Your sister," he says "Only Cat," a line that is quintessential Littlefinger. I don't see the problem with changing his words as much as others. But if you must find a good argument for the change, this piece by Vanity Fair's Joanna Robinson tackles it, and she says it's all about the keeping things thematic for television. 

– Pretty cool last words: "I wish it were wine." Nice one, old man! 

– Haha at Hot Pie for saying Brienne was dressed like a boy. 

– Imagine how excited the actor who plays Rorge was to return to the show. "Hey mom! Game of Thrones asked me back!" And then he got stabbed by a little girl after 30 seconds of screen time. 

– While Moon Door Janitor might be the worst job in Westeros, I'd gladly be the lackey who lights all of Melisandre's candles for bath time.


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So...who's going to tell Lysa's weird kid that his breast milk gravy train was just pushed out the moon door (or, "made to fly", so to speak)?

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I was never really happy that it seemed as if Dario's lame tricks were working. I mean, some of it was charming, but really? Barging into her place to give her more flowers finally worked huh? I remember doing that thing Cartman did in the Awesome-O episode where I just kept uttering with increasing frequency and volume "weak...WEAK...WEAAAAK" :P .

But yeah, I guess good for Danny for getting some rebound action finally. I hope she burns and turns him though, most self respecting male GoT nerds see this guy as the interloper, we're all rooting for mr. Friendzone :P .

On the flipside, I nailed my prediction for who would become Tyrions champion, and oh my was that a great scene. I even excitedly stuck around for the next episode preview to see Oberon flipping out swinging around some kind of crazy bo-staff while the Mountain stands there looking not intimidated. I was hoping Oberon had some super crazy cool long sword or a katana/scimitar or somthing and he just fights in his cool orange robe, but I'll settle for what I saw in the sneak preview...the rest of that fight better happen though before the episode ends :P .

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Anyone else laughed when Arya stabbed/poked that dude with Needle? Was glad that Oberyn volunteered to be Tyrion's champion and don't get me started on the gravy!!
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No, but I beam with pride when The Hound told her she was learning.

...he would be a terrific father should he ever have the chance.
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No,he won't be.He will in all likeness kill them all for all the trouble.Anyways,i am sure he has many bastards..
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The Hound?!

I'd be surprised if he actually spoke to a woman aside Cersei in King's Landing.
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for a second, I really thought that Sansa is going down the moon door (knowing how sadistic George Martin is), but the end of the episode restored my faith in life, haha
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She said so herself: the worst ones always survive and, unless her husband dies, Sansa is a Lannister. One of the worst ones in the eyes of the Seven Kingdoms.
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I would put this ep at #3.

Yes, it was so well done. Loved Oberyn's chat with Tyrion.
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* "You're sister." is simply a far more powerful and better-written line.

* I consider Dany isn't 'playing Jorah and Daario' off each other. She's simply reasserting to Daario that Jorah is still her prime adviser.

- And Jorah has some gall to say that Daario isn't trustworthy. What if Dany ever knows that Jorah was sent to spy on her and that she was almost killed because Jorah informed King Robert that she was pregnant with Khal Dorgo's son?

* The guy with the sword was clearly scaredy cat. He likely wanted The Hound to be 'softened up' and/or he wanted to see how formidable The Hound is. The Hound wears strong armor, so unless he's stabbed in the head or hacked in the head, he's not likely going down. The guy with the sword might not even be a decent sword-fighter. I reason the scene wasn't about ASSSASINS being after The Hound. It was about men desperate enough for money being willing to try to kill The Hound.


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I don't think Dany is playing anyone to begin with: she doesn't trust Daario like she trusts Jorah and she doesn't want Jorah like she wants Daario.

She's been pretty honest about it from the start.
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Little Finger!
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The best moment for me during this episode was the conversation between Prince Oberyn and Tyrion it's really touching.
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To be fair, Arya and the dying man had a pretty awesome conversation too.
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Having watched it again, there is one thing I don't understand ... why the hell did the guy without a sword attack the hound (by biting him! wtf), while the guy WITH the sword stayed back. Only to just stand there like an idiot while Arya stabbed him. I don't think that scene was done very well. Loved the episode though.
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If I recall correctly, the other dude (also shown in the previous season flashback) had gross rotted teeth. That's also why the bite probably got all infected. That was like, his superpower?
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One was supposed to kill the pup while the other to kill The Hound? I don't know, there weren't the brightest of Yoren's prisoners.
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Great review! I just wanted to point out that Prince Oberyn doesn't actually "swing a sword like no one else". His weapon of choice and the one he is the best in is not the sword, but the spear, as it is for all men from Dorn. It DOES matter, and I hope the show keeps it this way because, besides sticking to a great scene from the book, a duel in which Oberyn fights with a spear will be much more impressive than a simple swordsfight.
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I seem to remember a split second clip of the fight during one of the trailers earlier in the year ... i think he was wielding a spear at the time. I hope so, but not enough to care to look it up again :)
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A good duel is *extremely* hard to film.. I don't even care how it goes down - as long as it's pro.
(Especially from the book, just remember LOTR and reading the novels when we were 12-14)
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*not the fights, but for example Aragorn against the kings (w/fire)
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Great review, once again with the humor :)
hound and arya have some good moments, still doesn't top the season premier, but at least arya didn't bitch at the hound for putting that man out of his msery. Still surprised the hound was still afraid of the fire after facing the brotherhood leader with the flaming sword. That bite could be his downfall...

dany looked hot in that last dress. It's good to be the queen. This outfit i want to see more of :) i totally agree jorah has been friendzoned. Then again, it could be her way of just getting dario to be happy and do her bidding as a good soldier. 'Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer'. So i don't think it was out of love, but just so she can keep the leash on dario.

i'm not a fan of the short segments and i think the segment with jon snow could've been saved later. Thorne is a dick.

melisandre can be modest about the parlor tricks, but the smoke demon she gave birth to was very real and omgwtf. Now maybe it was dark or maybe she uses dye for her hair, but why was her hair black or not red here?

the mountain is friggin scary. He could probably beat up anyone on the wwe. I don't blame bronn for not fighting for tyrion. Anyone would be scared shitless to face the mountain. Sure the promise for a big part of a kingdom is nice, but useless if dead. Obyron ftw, that man is just so awesome. And poor tryion, imagine if cersi did rip hrder on his infant dick, maybe he wouldn't be the womanizing dwarf that he is and no shae to lie at the trial.... Anyway, that moment when oberyon was willing to fight for tyrion and tyrion expressing joy was great.

the pod and brienne segment was ok, but she really needs to lighten up to pod. They almost got on the right foot before when he opened up about killing a kingsguard to save tryion. It was good to see pod making himself more usueful with the stuff he learned from tyrion.

and finally littlefinger coming in to push lysa to her death, just awesome. It was her own fault she coddled robin for so long. I'm glad sansa slapped him, that's probably the first time i cheered for sansa for doing something right. I'd be pissed if some child went on a temper tantrum and messed up my snow castle. I dunno the lines from the book, but i loked the way the line 'your sister' sounded than 'catlyn'.
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Liked* and lysa was just crazy especially about commenting on how ppl died from falling thru the moon door. She needed to go asap.
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Loved all of this episode apart from the Melisandre scene. Yes it's GoT and it's only expected that there is gratuitous nudity once in a while, but it was a bit much don't you think? https://vidd.me/ckr
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No. Actually. Not at all. Women DO bathe naked, you know?
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To be honest, Arya and The Hound always remind me of Brienne and Jaime. Must be the sense of discovery for one character as she unravels a new perspective that changes my perception of the other character.

Pod and Brienne, they remind me of Arya and Gendry. If only because he could be her family this time around.
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Nicely done Tim. ( See! I give you credit when it due)
O.K anyone who doesn't think we are watching a soap opera is just in denial.
( sorry all you manly men)
Great episode again!
I'm again fascinated by the way the writers can touch on so many stories with each feeling like something has been resolved and something moved forward. It always flows so effortlessly.
Rorge's friend was rightfully name "The Biter" ...looked like he was trying to give the Hound a hickie..
The Hound's revelation reminded me of the hot tub scene where Jamie tells Brienne of why he killed the Mad King. ( one of the best 6 minutes of TV ever!)And all of a sudden a character I loathed became a human being. A real person and not just an evil bastard. nice
The Red Viper vs. The Mountain... bring it on bayyyyybeeeee

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Jorah is so friend zoned I feel sorry for him. How long has he been at Dany's side? And she gives him nothing? She's all, you're the only one I trust. But he was probably thinking, Yea so why can't I get some?

Some advice guys? If you want a girl, don't be nice. She gets enough nice from her friends. A girl wants: 30% stalker like behavior, 25% jerkiness, 20% aloofness/mystery, 20% cockiness and about 5% nice. Keep her so confused she doesn't know which way is up. I'm not saying she'll marry you some day but I am gauranteeing you'll get some.
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Jorah and Dany both know it would be a fuckup for them to indulge and consummate. This is part of what makes them.......strong.
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I guess the difference is that Jorah met Daenerys on her wedding day and Daario met her as a widow.

I reckon Daario would be more self-aware of himself if he would've met the mighty Khal Drogo.
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Ok, gonna say this. Dany is not obligated to sleep with Jorah just because he's been supportive. Just because Jorah feels a certain way, doesn't mean he has the right to have that returned. It sucks to like someone who doesn't like you. But your feelings in no way obligate them to feel anything for you. As for 'being at her side' Ned supported King Robert for years. Kings and Queens have advisors and supporters. That's just how it works. Jorah is doing his job, the one he swore to do. Dany isn't obligated to sleep with him because he stands around giving her advice while she makes executive decisions. And she doesn't have to like him in return just because he likes her.
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I actually agree with you. Its just that jorah's so nice and it would be a victory for a lot of guys out there if the nice guy got the girl in the end. Keep hope alive jorah!
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Yeh, wasn't going to say anything at the time, but sorry. I get your point. Unfortunately it was doomed.
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I feel sorry for Selyse, not Jorah. At least he chose this, Selyse is stuck with the King that friend zoned her for the rest of her life.

Although I've got to admit, it was rather powerful to see her in the same scene with Melisandre. As sensual as the Red Woman can be, Selyse isn't reduced as woman, they were on equal footing the whole time without antagonizing despite the fact Melisandre had sex with Stannis.

They were simply 2 people recognizing that sex doesn't reflect on their value as women, it simply reflects on the weakness of the man they are involved with.
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There's something about her I dont like. I think its her overall doormatedness(I made a word!) and how she's so easily manipulated.

And I don't care how much sex doesn't reflect on their vaue as
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I can pinpoit exactly what I don't like: Selyse hates her daughter. What kind of mother - a religious one at that - can hate her own daughter?!

The dragons are actual beats and Daenerys loves them, Joffrey was a monster and Cersei loved him dearly, but Selyse despises her child like no other character.
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*women or how "flesh is flesh". If I was her I'd be like, sure you can sleep with my weak ass husband but you'll be doing it with 2 broken legs and a black eye.
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"I think I'm slowly figuring out what I like about Game of Thrones, and *gulp* it's often the soapier stuff."

Also known as dialog, character development, plot and intrigue.

I don't understand the people who watch this for the action and the boobs. I live for the dialog.
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It's definitely a combination of everything. Hard to find something that is not done well in GoT.
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I admit it was the action that drew me to this show, but now having caught up with all the eps, I appreciate these episodes a lot. I also liked last week's bank scene, i nominate ser davos to be host of his own game show, salesman of the year.
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Fantastic Episode! But...

"Lord Baelish..."
"Call me Peter"
*KISS*

...did anyone else have to laugh soo hard at this?? xD lmfao
That's how I imagine the writing of an erotic historical romance novel or the beginning of... an adult film ^_-
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Was anyone else wanting to hear Littlefinger say something like "THIS. IS. WESTEROS!" before pushing Lysa out the Moon Door?
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Intense scenes make me sweat. Apparently, my eyes sweat during the convo between tyrion and oberyn. Haha
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I was feeling a bit sweaty too in the eye region. And when Tyrion looked so damn relieved when Oberyn said he'd be his champion? Wow
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The scene with Oberyn and Tyrion just flat out stole the show. Untoppable. An absolutely powerful moment of great charisma.
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To be honest, I've always seen Brienne a what an older Arya would be if emotionally involved with Jaime, so I didn't mind the change: Arya killing Rorge was every bit as satisfying for me as Brienne killing him.
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"I've already seen "Mockingbird" called a "talky" episode"

Really? That's a thing?

"Let me just say that Tyrion's conversations with both Jaime and Bronn were fantastic"

Maybe me like too much talky too, but this isn't the first scene with Pedro Pascal that has stolen an episode. Him go good

"He's haunted by his brother shoving his face into a fire and his dad lying about the incident to protect his brother."

Can I put in a request for a Three Musketeers'esque spin off of Arya, Hound and Tyrion roaming the country side in one adventure after another? Cause that would be awesome!

"I'm just looking for some consistency from the Khaleesi, instead of this constant flip-flopping."

I dunno, I'm seeing a young girl who is, for the very first time, actually in a position to rule over a city and is literally learning on the job. All the theory she had built up over time doesn't quite work in the real world and she's slowly learning that there's a fine line between being a good ruler, a fair ruler and an unforgiving prick like Joffrey.

I didn't see this at all as flip flopping but a maturation.

"Consider that a divorce"

HA!

"There's been some uproar from book readers over the alteration of Littlefinger's last line."

Oh gee, what a surprise, book nerd losing their sh*t again. If it's not one thing it's another with this group. If they like the books so much, quit watching the show and go re-read them.
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If you mean for tyrion to be the brains of the group maybe. Bronn would be better and also funny for his lines.
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Littlefinger is so sneaky, he is turning out to be a major player now. Sansa is even more trapped by him. Oberon vs the Mountain will be amazing.
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She's trapped alright, but its good she isn't smart to figure it out.

It's better if Sansa never realizes her situation isn't better than Ros, Shae or the youngest of Craster's wives.
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Sansa is getting smarter and less of the naive little girl she was but not smart enough to escape. Yeah, lots of women in the show have crap situations but they do their best.
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Then again, Sansa must be the first girl in Game of Thrones that runs towards her child molester rather than away from him, she doesn't even realizes what she needs to escape from.

It something even Gilly figured out early on, even if she had nowhere to run until she met Sam.
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Yeah I suppose Littlefinger is charming and Sansa admired him at first. Hopefully she will start making good decsions.
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So... Give an award for Naharis because *butt* and another one to Pedro Pascal for a magnificent depiction of the Red Viper. OK, fair enough! But no 'give Dinklage all the awards' for his performance both last and this weeks' episodes?! I mean did you see his face when Oberyn announced he's going to be his champion?!

This was yet another lovely episode (still ranks behind last week's tho) and as the avid book-reader I knew this was gonna happen the moment I saw the episode title. I have more or less some inkling as to what's gonna happen in the remaining episodes and none of them will likely going to be less shocking than this one if I guess right.

I hated Lysa and her spoiled brat since the very beginning and even though I still don't know what I feel about Petyr - because kissing Sansa?! -ew!- I loved his face full of hatred when he was looking at Lysa and then bam! out of the moon door. Eyrie is -more or less- his now. Clever!

My favourite of the episode is indeed Oberyn. I have a soft spot for Martells. And I read Tyrion's part just after last week's episodes, (his exchange with Oberyn and Bronn) it's almost scripted word-by-word from the book. I love it when they do that!
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"Then a couple bounty hunters came after the Hound, including one of Yoren's prisoners from way back in Season 2."

Actually, both of them were Yoren's prisoners. They were Rorge and Biter, the other two from the black cells that were chained up with Jaqen H'ghar. Interesting that they were used and killed here, because they're actually alive and attack Brienne in book 4. Seems Brienne's story is getting expedited a little, which works for me. Most of her story in book 4 was just wandering around trying to figure out where Sansa went.
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I'm pretty sure that books 4 and 5 will be mostly covered next season, so I'm expecting a lot of expediting, compressing and cutting.
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time to watch orphan black for daario naHOTASS :D
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Loved this episode...
Though seriously grossed out by little finger kissing sansa - and that poor girls seriously needs to catch a break.. Hopefully Brienne will get there and rescue her and Arya too...
That scene between Tyrion and Oberyn OMG - they both deserve an Emmy - that speech about "the monster" that was nothing more than a baby and Cersei's behaviour as a child - tears seriously - Tyrion is the best of them all...
Actually has anyone else noticed how the people in this show - who are actually decent, brave and have a brain - are always getting the short end of the sword... sigh...
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"Bad people" don't do any better, just look at what happened to Rorge and Lysa here.
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Very true... Unfortunately, there still seems to be a rather big difference in percentage of bad versus good still standing. :)
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I just think TV audiences are programmed not to care when "bad people" suffer the way Game of Thrones demands us to care about Cersei or The Hound when they do.
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1. Tim, you're so right, mockingbird was epic!
2. Is it bad that by now Littlefinger is my favourite character like, ever?? Love him. And shipping the Sansa thing too. I'm a bad person.
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Oddly enough, I think Littlefinger is perfect for Sansa because he was beneath Catelyn.

Lets face it, Sansa will never build a love like Cat & Ned's, will never known a love like Brandon's or even find a hunk like Daario stuck on those mountains.
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Seems a bit previous...
Cat and Ned weren't in love when they got together. If it happened, it took a long time, a lot of which he was absent for.
Bran's only love was of climbing, look where that got him.
If there's one thing we've learnt, it's that Westeros is full of hunks!

I reckon that Sansa and the Mountain would make a great couple.
Go Mountsa!
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Hence the reason Cat and Ned had to build it together, much like Jaime & Brienne they were strangers when they first met, probably never even pictured themselves together once they got married.

Its like Catelyn said to Robb: it wasn't as exciting as a secret passion in the woods, but it is stronger, it lasts longer, and not even Ned's death could kill it.

Sansa just doesn't strike me like her mother or father. It's best if she settles for something less than what even Brienne & Jaime were able to build.
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So, Ygritte is taking more time than Daenerys and her return to Westero's to reach the wall
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Yes, they seem to have taken the scenic route along the wall. Maybe some new attractions have opened up in Moles Town.
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I blame the Thenns, they eat too much
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I agree that episode was great, better than previous one. It had many great and tense conversations. Characters were revealed in different never seen before light. And final scenes were beautifully shot. Revenge, jealousy, family hatred.
Only I don't get why Surette calls Arya an emo kid? Jab is misplaced I think. I thought Arya's words were rather wise and phiosophical for her age. And actually she's right. Nothing is nothing. If I was this old man I'd feel more calm after Arya's words. What link does emo angst have with Arya's words? Emo is about whining and depressing and negating. Nothing is nothing is buddhist philosophy. Or common sense philosophy.
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Yes! Thanks, Tim! I had a feeling that Daario 2.0 and Baby Daddy Cal (Orphan Black) were one and the same but I thought I might have just been confused by the hair and the beard. Of course, I always forget to Google it. Heh. I also just found out that Prince Oberyn is Agent Pike on The Mentalist. Cool beans. ^__^

No offense to the book fans but I think "your sister" packs more punch. "Only Cat" sounds sentimental and wistful even. For me, it doesn't fit into the scenario. Petyr wasn't feeling sentimental or wistful, he was DONE with Lysa and he finally felt free to let her know how he truly felt about her. "Your sister" totally fits because it's full of spite and vileness. It fits the character and it fits the moment. I also love how the actor portrayed the push. It was like he was shoving her off in disgust. I agree with Tim that it was one of GoT's pure gold moments!
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People seem to barely notice that Lysa finally revealed just who killed Jon Arryn, (i.e. Ned's Predecessor as Hand of the King).

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Probably because she already babbled it all in the previous episodes.., she just repeated it this week.
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Agreed, that was more shocking two episodes ago when she first said it.
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I thought : "FATALITY!" was going to pop up when "little finger" stood there after throwing that crazy woman down lol
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about 8 years ago i spent a full evening with Conan Stevens in a bar my friends own...he was on of the humblest people I've met, but I reckon I could of taken him as Tyrion's stand in!

Seriously, at 7.1 they should have kept him in...he is so imposing in person it's scary...
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Sansa in the snow was soo beautiful. She really is a child of the north.
This was one of my personal favourite episodes, too.
I guess I am in the minority here, but I didn't really love everything about the Tyrion scene last week. I liked that he exploded, but the threats were so general, but weirdly specific. I wish I had enoug poinson to kill all of you. It was just kind of weird and stupid and not as powerful as it should have been. But this week it was amazing. You could see all the despair and how he overplayed it with humour. And how relieved he was when Oberyn volunteered. Just so many facettes in every shot. Pure genius talent, this is what he deserves the award for.
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I have to say by far Littlefinger is one of the most scariest of villains because he's calm, he's sneakily obtrusive, he's almost eloquent in his creepiness, he's always thinking/plotting and he's simply vicious. I loved the scene with him, Lysa and Sensa because it played so close to the book details. I'll have to agree with the reviewer, this was one of my favorite eppys also because dialogue filled eppys makes one think.
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Littefinger is just a perv. Now, The Mountain, Ramsay, that Then guy, the late Locke, those are real scary
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To me, the only flaw of the episode is that the new Gregor Clegane looks like a huge teddy bear with severe alopecia. The shot from the bottom (no Daario-related pun intended) to the top seemed a desperate attempt to make a hill look like a Mountain, probably by having a GoPro glued to a beetle's back. I miss Conan Stevens for that role, he looked like the bastard son of Macho Man Randy Savage and a giant spearwife from Beyond The Wall.
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What I want to know is, is it someone's job to go down there and confirm that the victims who take flight have perished? Do they go down there and clean things up? How would Lysa know how the bodies end up if someone wasn't on body-scraping duty?

i was thinking the same things.

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loved the ep. it's funny that i can more easily follow a GoT ep than a Mad Men ep. hah
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"a full two inches shorter than Sansa, close-talked about how Sansa was even more beautiful than her mother beforeplanting a smooch on her. EEEEEEK! Creeeeeeepy!"

You know how you could make that scene creepier? He could have mentioned how if he had actually married Catelyn, he might be Sansa's father. Oh wait.....
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Can someone help me out with a minor question that's been nagging me for the past several episodes that I don't think was addressed in the show or here in the reviews/comments: If staying in King's Landing put Pod's life in peril due to his association with Tyrion, then why wasn't Bronn in the same boat--and more so by being Tyrion's hired, right-hand henchman? I've seen nothing to justify why Bronn would have stayed around or who was otherwise protecting/supporting him. Obviously he's been bought out and is trading up, but seems to me it would have been very risky of him to stick around once his former boss was jailed and accused of treason/regicide. Is this something that gets any exposition in the books?
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The danger to Pod was because he refused the request for him to lie about Tyrion, not just because of his association with him.
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In the books Pod flees on his own and then joins up with Brienne later.
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Bronn is a well known sell sword in Kings Landing and it is well known that his only loyalty is to money. Since his loyalty can be bought, and take care of himself in a fight, he is not in the same kind of peril as Podrick.
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Thanks. I had been thinking along these lines as well, but despite Bronn's status as a mercenary it's generally true that if an individual (meaning Tyrion) is thought to be guilty of a heinous act then all actors close to the accused are usually considered to be guilty by association.
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Without disagreeing with you (and going off at a slight tangent), I wonder whether the same logic would apply to a trial by combat, where the result is completely unrelated to the charge or evidence.
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Yeah ... and Podrick would probably not have lied in the court hearing, which certainly would have had himself killed.
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Yes, he's probably a somewhat harder target too.
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Ok, great episode. GREAT. And the fact that they didn't any background music to many of the discussions was brilliant, it left it all raw and avoided the cheesy effect of violins in a sad scene. The intensity during the scene between Tyrion and Oberyn really was the climax of the episode in my opinion, after the last two disappointements.
I only have one problem (I haven't read the book so I may be wrong but still) : if you think in terms of plot, there's no point in keeping the Mountain alive, and killing both Tyrion and Oberyn would really be a shame... Not that this show has hesitated before killing off main characters, but when you think of it, Oberyn's death would mean a really ugly war with Bravos (since they still have Cersei's daughter) and frankly I don't think it would make a very good story... Sure they can always pull it off, but keeping Tyrion and Oberyn alive certainly is more entertaining ^^
Oh and also : no boring plotline involving Sam and his girl !! Yay ! Even if we still see too much of Stannis, God is that part boring ...
Big question now : is Littlefinger going to just rape Sansa or is he going to seduce her somehow ? Yes he's doing all this because of his love for Catlyn, but considering how unpredictable he is, there's no way of telling what he will do next (and that's why I still enjoy every scene with Littlefinger, however repulsive he gets ^^)
Although I enjoyed Tyrion's speech in the last ep a lot, I have to admit this may be the best episode of the season so far !
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You're confusing Dorne with Braavos.
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Ow yeah, right, sorry ^^ I'm terrible with names, thanks for correcting me :)
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No worries, I wouldn't have said anything except that Dorne and Braavos are about as different as two places can get :)
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@ConstanceD: we haven't seen Dorne yet ;-) I suppose it will become more prevalent in the next seasons.
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I suppose they are ! But you will note that in the show we see so little of either of them that they both become "abroad" as opposed to Westeros ^^
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I will say it again - the Moon Door scene was SO MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE as written. The reveal of Littlefinger's manipulation was a genuine shock (plus, Sansa was present, so there was a witness), as was Lysa going out the Moon Door. You were hit with two double whammies in the span of thirty seconds. On the show, they had Lysa spell out the involvement in a scene that was purely exposition, which made it seem like no big deal. And if they said "Moon Door" once this season, they said it 87 times. Did anybody *not* think somebody was going out that sucker? I don't really care about the "Only Cat" bit, because by the time they got to that point, I was already totally pissed off. There was a reason that was the closing chapter of the book - Martin was making it pretty effing obvious that the Littlefinger reveal was a big deal. Definitely worth more than an offhanded mention half way through the season.
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I'm curious as to why they left the singer off the show. Who is Littlefinger going to blame for her death?
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He'll probably just say she fell.
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No episode next weekend Memorial day, extremely pissed.
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I have to admit that after the purple wedding I kinda lost my excitement for the show. There are always one or two remarkable and really great scenes per episode. Like Oberyn talking to Tyrion or the Moon Door. That's 3-6 minutes per episode, what about the rest?
Right now nothing is really happening. There is way too much time spent on setting things up and it messes up the pacing.
John Snow is chilling, Arya is still travelling, Danny is staying in her room trying to rule her kingdom, Tyrion is waiting for his trial by combat. The show kind of lost momentum, they should have at least one of these plots moving further. I finally want to see the payoff, dammit.
And I want to see why Oberyn is considered to be such a badass. So far its only talk talk talk with him.

Hope next episode is more balanced, the pacing this season is really setting me off.
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"Cersei having every privilege handed to her and Tyrion taking his lumps for being a dwarf"

Cersei and Tyrion were both equally at a disadvantage (as much as you can be when you're born into nobility), Tyrion was a dwarf and Cersei was a woman.

Jaime was the one who had it all thrown at him and yet he's the one who made the least of it.

"does Littlefinger remain Lord of the Vale, or does that honor transfer to Robin?"

Robin is now the Lord of the Vale, but he is not 16 yet, that's why he needs a Regent. As his stepfather that will be Littlefinger, so yes, Littlefinger now controls the Vale.

"the last thing you need to hear is an emo poem from an unflowered girl"
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Would it have made more sense if it came from a girl that's had her period?
Seriously.
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Cersei as much of a disadvantage? What? She was queen! What more did she want? She literally could do whatever she wanted.
Jaime made the least of it? No way - the guy is in this precarious position because of Cersei's greed for power. He was the youngest ever member of the King's watch, after all. And of the two, he's by far the one with the better moral code.
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"Cersei as much of a disadvantage? What? She was queen! What more did she want? She literally could do whatever she wanted."

Very obviously she could not, or she wouldn't have put up with Robert all that time. The power she had as Queen came from Robert, because she was his wife, or from Tywin, because she's his daughter, or from Joffrey/Tommen, because she was/is their mother.
But there was never any power for Cersei in her own right.

Tyrion could at least hope to inherit Casterly Rock and the power that comes with it and for a short time he was acting Hand of the King, just as powerful as the Queen, and he couldn't do what he wanted either.

"Jaime made the least of it? No way - the guy is in this precarious position because of Cersei's greed for power. He was the youngest ever member of the King's watch, after all."

Jaime joined the Kingsguard because he didn't want to give up his relationship with Cersei, Cersei didn't make that decision for him, so it's his own fault. He could have had Casterly Rock. His skill with a sword or his favour with the ex-ex-king doesn't have any influence on that.

"And of the two, he's by far the one with the better moral code."

Yes, he's slightly better than Cersei, but that doesn't say much when they're both bad people.
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Wait .. you must be one of those that thinks Jaime raped Cersei, right? Never mind then ...
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Unflowered generally means someone who hasn't lost her virginity yet, which Arya hasn't. It has absolutely nothing to do with periods.

I would guess it equates to the difference between being a child and a woman ... and the poetry may be very different in that case ;)


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You're thinking "de-flowered" which refers to losing virginity. "Unflowered" means not yet reaching puberty.
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In the universe of A Song of Ice and Fire, flowering refers to a girl's first period.
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I'm not sure that I agree Cersei and Tyrion were equally disadvantaged. Disadvantaged yes, but Tyrion much more so than Cersei.
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I agree with you as well. Cersei has been allowed to get away with everything from her father.
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-- "In the novel, instead of "Your sister," he says "Only Cat,""

I'd guess it's for the low-attention-span portion of the audience who forgot that they were sisters -- and/or who wouldn't even remember that he had always called her Cat.

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-- " How would Lysa know how the bodies end up if someone wasn't on body-scraping duty?"

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Lysa takes Robin on a field trip to see the results.

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-- "So let's watch this slap on repeat for about three hours, and pay particular attention to Robin's face when he realizes what just happened."

Uhm, is Robin holding the WRONG side of his face after the slap?

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Seriously, watch that gif clip. She slaps his left cheek and he comes up holding his right. What's up with that?
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-- "Jon would get a little more respect. "

I'm sort of getting the vibe that he IS getting the respect of most of the men (snickers aside). Just not the bosses. I'm feeling like the henpecking of Jon is going to backfire before too long.

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-- "I'm just looking for some consistency from the Khaleesi, instead of this constant flip-flopping. "

What you see as consistency, I see as a willingness to accept that she doesn't know everything and to take good advice when she hears it. I like that in a ruler - within reason.

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