Before and After

Season 5, Episode 14, Aired
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Addison, Naomi and Sam rush the ailing Archer to Seattle Grace and reunite with old friends Derek and Mark to help save his life; meanwhile, Izzie employs her fellow doctors in a medical game designed to help teach the interns, and Owen runs into a significant someone from his past.moreless
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  • Derek tries to save Addison's brother.

    7.5
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    By thefanof, Sep 16, 2010 Report Abuse
    I love how on medical shows they always act like there's no way to possibly save a patient, then right at the end someone says hey what if we tried this (somehow they missed it originally despite being world-class doctors) and the patient is saved.

    That age-old television flaw was brought back tonight for this special cross-over edition. It was exciting to see Sam and Naomi in a different environment and for Addison to be back at Seattle Grace, but the episode just wasn't that great. The ending was predictable and the drama just wasn't there.

    We've all read reports about Izzie possibly leaving the show, and after this episode you truly see why. She deserves much better than orchestrating a relay race between interns.moreless

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  • And the crossover finally begins...

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    By desperate_dude, Aug 26, 2010 Report Abuse
    The reason I give this episode a '10' is because (while it is a fictional television show), it still reminds us that we can try something new and different, and if it doesn't work, at least we tried. Sounds reminiscent of the George & Izzie storyline in S3/S4, but I digress. Anyway, I enjoyed the crossover of characters because it provided not only a little color to the 'gray' of this season, but it added a sense of reflection, a sense of today, and a sense of what's to come...especially when Addison says to Mark, "What happened to you?" These characters we've come to love have changed and not everything can stay the same...i.e. Hahn/Burke leaving, Addison moving, etc. All in all, great episode!moreless

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  • GA is back!

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    By sylviasd, Aug 26, 2010 Report Abuse
    After a beginning of season 5 quite lame - IMO - I think that GA seems to be definitely back on tracks!
    The crossover with Private Practice was brilliant. I had the feeling to be experiencing the show I 'fell' for a couple of years ago. The interaction between the characters was great, the medical cases were poignant and some lines were very funny. I still think that it's a shame Addison left Seattle Grace but every time she visits is a great moment. It was nice to have a Denny-free episode and seeing Izzie getting sick was disturbing, weird and sad at the same time. I just wish she would talk to Alex about it.

    The whole thing was very good. One drawback though: Sadie's exit reminds me of Hahn's one. Nobody ever noticed until now that she didn't know anything about medicine? That's very weird!

    Look forward to the next one, and it's been a while since I haven't been excited at the idea of a fresh episode!moreless

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  • This is the reason why I fell in love with this show.

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    By tink_pink08, Aug 26, 2010 Report Abuse
    I miss Addison and I am happy to see her back in Seattle Grace. I felt bad for Meredith, though. But I applaud her for knowing where to stand.

    I just wish (sometimes) that the show will be able to focus on all the character that made the show what it is.

    I love Owen and Cristina. The way Cristina understands him and where his coming from. Great to see George again and seeing Sadie leave, its not that I don't like Sadie. I just don't see the point of putting her in the show.

    I do admit I love episode 14(Beat Your Heart Out) more. But each episode has its special moment.I just really hope Grey's Anatomy writers will stay out of the Denny scenes and other non-sense and surely they can make Grey's Anatomy stay on top of its game.moreless

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  • I liked both Grey's and PP's episodes for this crossover, I think it was just what both shows needed!

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    By Lyta_499, Aug 26, 2010 Report Abuse
    Loved every minute of it! Addison, Sam, Naomi and even Archer removed from their sunshiny LA environment and thrown into the serious, life-saving, no-joke background of Seattle Grace was just the injection of originality PP needed. My favourite part was Miranda and Sam getting along so well together and even being on the brink of developing a friendship. Miranda is such an amazing personality, sparkling with intelligence and wit every line she delivers. So her intake on Sam's attitude towards Naomi's relationship with Archer was very refreshing. Noone can really be so cool about things like that! I think she gave Sam good reason to ponder on his future moves.

    Also, I loved Derek's antagonism with Archer - at the point where Archer thought the cysts had reformed and Derek stormed into the room and told him off I was so excited! I didn't think Derek had it in him but he sure put Archer in his place there! And I liked how he and Addison have figured out everything's over between them and there's no hard feelings left. I just hated them being off with eachother.

    Apart from that there was an important revelation about Owen and I believe one we needed, since he participated in a war and must have witnessed all these incredibly cruel things there - his friends being maimed or killed and himself bearing the responsibility for their lives the whole time - that we just couldn't dismiss it with a few dialogues. We had to see the real extent of the impact this war has had on him, and how broken and changed he really is. Christina understood him and it was great, to see this forgiving side of her character for the first time. Great epi in all accounts! Thumbs up for this one.moreless

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    • Goof: When Derek walks into Joe's bar, and Addison is telling him that he was a god, her hands are on his neck and then his shoulders when the camera is on Derek, but when the camera is on her, we see no indication of her hands. Edit
    • The song that Derek wrote and sang to Addison at their wedding goes something like this. Our eyes met over the cadavar, and I knew that I had to have her / Had his mitral valve grown too think? Is that what made the cadavar so sick? / Addison Montgomery he met her in the summer / She was cutting up a very dead body / And in her eyes I saw my life / I knew that she'd be my wife / And that she would breathe the life back into me / For every day until eternity / Or until I'd be as dead as that body. Edit

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    • International Episode Titles: Slovakia: Čas predtým a potom (Time Before and After) Czech Republic: Chirurgie hrou (Surgery, a Game) Edit
    • Original International Air Dates: Italy: Monday, May 11, 2009 on Fox Life Latin America: May 11, 2009 on Sony Entertainment Television (aka Canal Sony) Australia: May 21, 2009 on Channel 7 Germany: July 8, 2009 on ProSieben Norway: November 24, 2009 on TV2 Slovakia: January 18, 2010 on STV1 Czech Republic: May 27, 2010 on Prima Edit
    • There is no closing voiceover for this episode. Edit

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    • Mark, Naomi & Sam (singing): 'Had his mitral valve grown too think? Is that what made the cadavar so sick?' Addison (laughs): Oh, God! Derek: Shut up. Naomi: But we can't. We can't remember the second chorus. Sam: We get all the way through and we can't remember the second chorus. Your name, your name starts with the chorus. Addison (singing): 'Addison Montgomery, he met her in the summery.' (they laugh) Derek: It wasn't summery. I'd never use summery as a noun. I met her in the summer... she... Addison (laughs): Oh, summer, she-- Really? Derek (laughs): Yeah. Sam & Naomi: She was... (singing) 'Cutting up a very dead body.' Derek: This is why I don't stay in touch. Sam (singing): 'And in her eyes I saw my life...' Naomi (singing): 'And I knew that she'd be my wife...' Mark, Naomi & Sam (singing): 'And that she would breathe the life back into me. For every day until eternity.' (Addison and Derek share a meaningful look) Sam (singing): 'Or until I'd be as dead as that body.' (they all laugh) Edit
    • Addison (to Derek): You were... You were a God today, you were a God today in that OR. You slew dragons, you walked on water, you... You were a God, but now, now you need to get very tiny again... (laughs) And go back in the box. Edit
    • Mark: I'm an ass. Addison: You're such an ass. Mark: I shouldn't have blurted. Addison: Uh, a little warning would've been nice. Mark: But you're okay? Addison: Yeah, you know, it strange. I expected this horrible feeling, this wave of sadness or something to just take over... But... people get divorced... they meet new people, they remarry. I don't kow, you know, things just... Maybe seeing Archer in that OR, it just changed my perspective... or something. Mark: But you sort of wished it had been you first. Addison: Oh, shut it. So, what are you gonna tell Derek about the-- Okay, wait, wait. (chuckles) If we call Meredith the 12 year old, what do we call Lexie? A preschooler? Mark: She's a woman. Addison (laughs): Oh, okay. Mark: I'm gonna tell him. ... I'm working on it. Edit

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    • Episode Title: Before and After A song by the musical group Rush from the album Rush. Edit

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