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Hannibal S02E10: "Naka-Choko"

I feel like we've potentially crossed a line here, a line that may push the boundaries of things just a wee bit too far. In the past, I've argued in favor of Hannibal's big, operatic impulses, but it's possible that, like Will, the show has given itself over to those impulses, and it may be a little bit lost as a result.

Killing Randall Tier was not a bad thing, per se. Will believed his life was in danger (not to mention the lives of his dogs!!!), and given his correct suspicion that Hannibal was priming Randall in some way, if Will hadn't killed Randall, Randall would've certainly killed Will. Within the confines of television narrative, we're by no means in uncharted or dangerous waters here; if anything, this sort of situation is part and parcel of the cop procedural. The killer that the protagonist is chasing makes things personal, and things get morally (and legally) gray. But then this happened...


...and now we suddenly have more than a few questions that need answering. Plus there's the matter of whatever the hell happened to Freddie. 

I remain convinced that Jack is aware of what Will is attempting to do with Hannibal—their conversation while ice fishing was all about that, while still maintaining an air of just being two dudes talking about their fishing techniques—but Jack also doesn't know the details, and he may not even want to know the details. He's on the record in thinking that Will Graham was a little off his rocker in accusing Hannibal of being the Ripper, which will help Will lure in Hannibal, but just how much of a leash can Jack afford to give Will right now? Hannibal and Will's take of the Randall tableau felt practically rehearsed for Jack's benefit, and Jack, to his credit, was casting all sorts of side-eye at it.

So Jack finds himself in the same position as most police chiefs do when, after turning a blind eye and/or saying something like, "I can't tell you to not go do this, but then again, what you do during your suspension is your thing," their vigilante cop who gets results strays too far from the reservation. There's an air of deniability—"Will's therapist said he was fine" and "We were just talking about ice fishing, I had no idea he was doing this!"—but there's also needing to pull your cop out of a hot situation if he's unraveling enough that he's possibly responsible for transforming someone into a grotesque man-beast-skeleton and killing a muckraking reporter. Jack has very much gone past the mistakes he made in Season 1; he's making whole new mistakes now.


Which is why we've arrived at a very sticky situation. I honestly don't think—or don't want to think—that Will killed Freddie. His actions toward Freddie in the barn seemed to indicate that all of what she saw was for Hannibal's benefit, but they didn't get that far. The challenge is that their short struggle and the moment when Will pulled her out of her car were shot and edited very much like a woman being abducted by a killer. Will denying seeing Freddie that day and attempting to wave away the cell phone signal was explained by Hannibal being in the room. And Hannibal is again trying to sell this notion that Will has been seduced/ensorcelled by Hannibal and his long pig ways, and is denying them to Jack.

If Will actually killed Freddie, though, there's pretty much nothing the show can legitimately do for it to make much sense with Will's state of mind. There's a darkness that's seeping out of him as he becomes a monster, but his monstrosity has largely been contained to his associations with Hannibal, whether it be the Bizarro Hannibal who was Peter Bernadorne's social worker or Randall as Hannibal's representative. But with the Randall tableau, it's become slightly difficult to ascertain the degree to which Will is actually becoming a killer because he legitimately finds power in it and isn't just pretending to be one to ensnare Hannibal.

Dinner parties with Alana and joint cooking sessions aren't helping matters, since Will seems very committed to the façade in front of Alana—"It's just hard to know where you are with each other." "We know where we are with each other. Shouldn't that be enough?"—and he all but told Hannibal that he sliced and diced Freddie. We're in sort of the same position that Alana finds herself in: uncomfortable, and maybe starting to question some assumptions.


It says a lot about this episode that I've spent more time attempting to sift through all the Will possibilities than dealing with the fact that Mason Verger (Michael Pitt) and his man-eating pigs were introduced this week. The pigs made a big impression, of course but I thoroughly grooved on Pitt's performance, particularly his riffing on Gary Oldman's voice for the character in the film Hannibal. Given Mason's generally larger-than-life psychotic attitude, I was a little worried that he might feel out of place on the show, considering how generally low-key it is, but so long as the mania is reserved for Mason, it'll probably work out all right.

I'm also glad that Mason has finally appeared, as I really wanted him around before determining how well Margot was working. They're such a connected pair, and Mason's actions motivate so many of Margot's—including sleeping with Will in the hopes of getting pregnant, despite her "proclivities" (not entirely sure why we're not saying that she prefers women even if she's willing to sleep with men). So, without him on the scene interacting with her, he was more of a phantom boogie man who enjoyed tear-infused martinis than a legitimate cause for concern.

Owning a horde of man-eating pigs, however, is definitely cause for concern, and while I'm sure Margot thinks carrying Will baby's will be her way out, should she kill Mason, there's still the matter of mustering up the gumption to do it. Or convincing Hannibal or Will to do it for her. I can't imagine that Will will be all that pleased at being an unknowing sperm donor, and I wonder how Hannibal will feel about such indirect action against Mason. Is it a delaying tactic, or just good planning on Margot's part?



À LA CARTE

– "You can slice the ginger." Oh, Hannibal, was that really necessary?

– So how about that... fivesome, I guess? Does it became an orgy at that point? Beautifully shot and all, and the first time I've really said, "This is on network TV?" with Hannibal. However, I'm not a fan of it on the whole. I've been willing to ride out the Hannibal and Alana thing (and her decision to sleep with Hannibal in the first place) to see if resulted in Alana having more to do, but it hasn't, and now she's being passed between both Hannibal and Will, even if it be in... Will's head, I think? I honestly don't know the perspective there, and we're probably not supposed to, either. Regardless, I'm not a fan of how the show has put Alana in this less-than-great position. 

– Even if Freddie isn't dead, this may be the last we see of her this season since Hannibal thinks he just enjoyed her as a meal. Which is sad. I like how all up-in-everyone's-business she is. She's the most mundane representation of immorality/amorality on the show, and there's something oddly refreshing about that.

– "That's one of my suits." "I'll buy you a new one." DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER.

– "Don't mistake understanding for empathy, Jack." Some sort of signal that Will thinks he has it all under control? 

– Your classical music selections of the week: It more Chopin with the "Raindrops" Prelude at the Will, Alana, and Hannibal dinner, while the fourth movement of Mahler's Symphony No. 5 played during Will and Hannibal's date night.


How did "Naka-Choko" taste?


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AIRED ON 8/29/2015

Season 3 : Episode 13

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I'm starting to think Will is playing Hannibal and Jack knows about it.
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the Dinner discussion over presumambly Freddy's flesh was like meat porn
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Most intriguing sex scene ever
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having finally met all Hannibals ( I`m reading Red Dragon ) I feel pretty comfortable in saying that Mads Mikkelsen`s is the greatest one. such elegance! such delicacy! such veiled and terrifying menace! his work is superb, he has given Hannibal the face and style he was always meant to have. Anthony Hopkins did a good job in Silence of the Lambs ( and let`s keep on ignoring the other two movies in which he appears, shall we? ), and Gaspard Ulliel isn`t bad either as the young Hannibal, but while all of those versions ( including the literary and original one ) are merely `wooden toys`, Mads` is the only real boy. of course, everybody involved in the tv series should be terribly proud of themselves, and Thomas Harris nothing but super thankful for this absolutely beautiful twist in his story and character. beautiful work! a pleasure to watch and, go Hannibal, go!
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After finishing this episode I was in shock! I agree that somehow they manage to show Will as a serial Killer. I want to think that the museum figure of Randall and he killing Freddie, its all an act of Will to capture Hannibal. There are only 3 episodes left!
I hope this season doesn't end as Will and Hannibal both are the bad guys.
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Did anyone else feel like Michael Pitt was doing a bit of a Heath Ledger as The Joker imitation in his interpretation of Mason?
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That Randall display was awesomely freaky!
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c'mon guys we all know Will did not kill Freddie. I am quite sure she is alive and well somewhere. Also the meat Will and Hannibal were eating may have been human but my guess is that it was Randall.
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The more I kept thinking of this episode (mainly through Saturday, i was busy for the remainder of that day and then tired yesterday and busy all morning), I am worried about the show.

Even if Will didn't kill Freddie (which I think he didn't) I was sort of out of sorts about this episode. Like you, terribly uncomfortable during the elaborate sex scene (basically because I was like Will you should probably get past Alana because I don't know that she isn't totally convinced you aren't a serial murderer) and then felt like even last season when he was sick, our POV has almost always been Will. And then I felt like we were weirdly cut off this episode. Maybe I guess I don't appreciate that they decided to throw a whodunit into the mix about Will and don't let us in on the secret. On a show where we pretty much know all the secrets but are enjoying the ride.
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I think Jack and Will kind of agreed to lure in Hannibal, but if Will really did kill and slice up Randall and ate the reporter - then he is getting as bad as Hannibal and that is not OK. I like Will... I don't want him to be a cannibalistic killer as well. Killing Randall might not be so bad since it was self defense and he was a killer, but slicing him up that way is sick. And killing the reporter was uncalled for. If he did kill her. Maybe he just got rid of her and pretended that they were eating her to fool Hannibal, when they were actually eating Randall since he had pieces of him in the freezer. Hopefully Randall is the only one he killed.

I think Jack will die in the season finale.
Alana is so irrelevant now, she is boring and pointless, and stupid for sleeping with Hannibal. I would rather have her die than Jack.
Will was stupid for sleeping with Margot. I didn't like that part. And now she will get pregnant, gosh, that will suck. Why don't she just run away from home? It's pathetic to get knocked up just so you can kill your father, inherit a f'ing meat factory in order to get rid of your psycho brother.
Mason was cool... In a crazy way.
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I have given the show up. I find it boring and a lack of story. But that is me.....
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Fuller sure knows how to write a real downer of a fivesome (sixsome--that hot ass theremin tho, mmmm). Between Will's sad and uninteresting hallucinatory sex with lame Alana, Margo's strategic self-defense sex, and Hannibal's college douchebag-tries to philosophize his way in yo panties-with godawful theremin lubed dirty talk (just shut up and be pretty, Hannibal, seriously); I was left peeved, instead of satisfied.

The Margo/Will hook-up bothered me, tremendously. I understood immediately that Margo was working Operation Legacy/Kill Mason, Steal his furs, but it creeps me out to no end having lesbians hop on cock for whatever "well intentioned" reasons portrayed in media CONSTANTLY (usually baby-related). Don't even get me started on the shit that shows up attached to bisexuals. And I thought the Margo, goes to Will for sperm, wasn't so much organic as it was crafted just for the melodrama. Now, that Margo is with Will's Child, Will will be drawn into the murder shenanigans surrounding Mason, because of course, Mason is going to try to dispose of his foetal rival. Yuck.

Also, I had gathered that Margo was clever from the bits we've seen of her, so her not having thought to produce an heir prior to Hannibal mentioning it was unbelievable! On top of that she didn't go to a sperm bank/fertility specialist where with some money and some shady medical professionals she could have assured the sex of the child from the jump! Ugh. On top of that, did she get clarification from the estate attorney that HER producing a child from a NON-VERGER would be considered an heir...because a dude that cuts you out of his will because of your chromosomes more so than anything else, does not have a firm grasp on the finer points of genetics, but has an overinflated identification of male ownership. In short, all this craftiness might be a exercise in futility, because the kid won't be a Verger in the eyes of the deceased a-hole.

However, I can't root or empathize with Margo's plight (I'm aware of the heinous Verger tale from the books) because the world is FUCKING VAST and there are women's shelters EVERYWHERE. So, you don't get to be a princess, boo hoo, at least you'll be free!

Ugh. Watch the kid be a girl and Hannibal have some Mischa/Will Graham related possessive reaction. Out of the fire and into the frying pan. Or something like that.
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Tier Bear. OMGawd. The image is so horrible, yet I keep starring at it! I assume Hannibal is imparting his impressive time management secrets to Will because so much was accomplished in a night! Murder attempt, killing, hauling a body across town, B&E at Lecter Manor (complete with display of body on dinner table), intimate triage and pep talk, dismemberment of dead body (at Will's place???), B&E at the museum, monument making, home to wrap up the remains (for later treats), washed up and bright-eyed and bushy-tailed at the crime scene with the mental capacity to jazz riff a BS-profile on your own kill. I am too lazy for crime.

If Freddie is dead, I would be truly shocked (and pleasantly surprised). I kind of like the idea that Will is just going down the dark path and when things get hot he'll just pin all the shit on Hannibal. I doubt it though, Will is probably still down with the struggle *raises a fist*.

The final show-down between Hannibal and Will better not be triggered by some lame protecting Alana plot. I can tolerate some lampshading just fine (hello, sad three-some), but please stop trying to act like she is a crucial entity in this verse (the ball was dropped! It can not be picked up!) in which the morality of Will hinges. I want Will to fight for "good" because he wants to OR to embrace "behavoirism" because he want to, none of that bogus for that romanticized love of a woman (that was never your woman) bushido.
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As for theremin sex: note what Hannibal said as Alana was being prepped - "You're killing it." HELLO boner go bye bye. He said that as fast as he said, "fascinating" to Will, after Will tried to imply that DuMaurier was on to him.

Also - to bridge the love scene, Will's word crossed over to both scenarios as well, when he said to Margo: "I don't have the right parts for your proclivities, Margo..." He was also saying this symbolically to Hannibal, who he couldn't help but see as the staggy creep by the fireplace.

Quick aside - I thought I saw that thing by the bottom of my bed last night. NOT GOOD. I'd rather see that chick from Splice if I had a choice.

In the end, I'm guessing a big round of heartbreak for the Hannigram crowd as we watch Will totally backstab ol' pappy.
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Hannibal knows what's going on. He knows he's being played, but he loves it all anyway. He adores the game. He knows his heart will be broken when Will will eventually betray him, but this is his life, and for him, it's worth it to plunge so deeply into this life and death game he plays with Will. This game - this is the 'beloved' he talks about. Love brings out the potential, he says, seeing that love brings it out even further. These two - they LOVE each other, and it will end as so much love ends; in horrible betrayal and pain.
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If Freddie is dead, Firefly just got renewed!
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I'm sorry but how do you know Margo slept with Will to get pregnant? Just because she happened to get pregnant does not mean she did it on purpose. I'm not sure if I just missed something but I don't recall seeing or hearing anything that made me think the sex was intentional for the purposes of a baby. It appeared to me she just wanted to have sex with him.
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The Legacy talk between Margo and Hannibal seems to have flown over a lot of people's head.

Essentially, Margo sulks that she doesn't get a legacy (because she's a girl, boohoo, and she's a big ol' Lez) and Hannibal counters with, "you have to make your own legacy", which translates to "get knocked up, duh."
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Oh, I do remember that conversation now! Definitely wasn't paying attention, tbh I was cleaning at the same time I was watching this episode lol.
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Only a male can inherit her father's meat industry. So if she kills her father and has a son then she can have it.
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Ummmm...let's not forget that the show hasn't been renewed for another season...huh...almost got carried away
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Somehow I doubt that a connaisseur like Dr Lecter can be fooled. He would taste Freddie Launds. I think he knows or at least suspects and now he plays Will but Will thinks it's him playing Hannibal - very dangerous. No - it's extremely dangerous.
And I think Oldman was cartoonish in Hannibal the movie but Pitt was very good as Verger in Hannibal the series. Liked him and even more his sister.
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As @LourenoCastro has proposed, it could be Randall's meat.
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I think it is Randall also, he had pieces in his freezer...
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You've got a good point. Lecter is no pushover. He knows his meat, I'm sure he knows it so well that he can not only tell if it's suffered or killed humanly, if it's human or animal - but he can probably tell if it's male or female. There is a very good chance nothing slips past him.
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If you enjoy music from Hannibal, check out my playlist on Spotify: "Cooking with Hannibal".
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OMG, omg, omg. Excellent, disturbing.. can this be any better?
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Was thinking the same thing, it was so disturbed yet I couldn't help enjoy how brilliant it was. I personally loved this episode, it shows that it hasn't lost it's edge
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Hannibal fans, would you spare a second to rate this show on IMDB? The chances for season 3 seem flimsy and you do realize what a bloody fantastic show this is, don't you. It needs more recognition and respect than the likes of Grimm and other tadteless shows lacking a concept.
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lol, I went to rate it and see that I had already given it a 10/10
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HOLY SHIT, IT GOT RENEWED
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Ok I've watched the episode back and I still don't see any reference to Margot sleeping with Will in order to have a baby?

First of all; am I going crazy? Where are people getting this from?

Secondly; how would having a baby with Will help her in anyway with her Psycho brother?

This was one of the best episodes so far. Will is dastardly.

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Well The family needs a male heir. Without a male heir in sight all the money is donated.
So if Margot was to ever kill her brother she would be poor as a churchmouse. If she got preggers and had a boy there would be a male heir in sight and the fortune would go to him.
Thats what I think. Still there are about 10000000000 things that could go wrong and/or not work out with such a plan and in my opinnion it is pretty far fetched.
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I agree with you Margot's plan is desperate and the thought of her having Will's child makes me more then a little sick
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That is exactly what Margo is up to - she needs a male child to provide an alternate heir to Mason. (A daughter, however, doesn't help.)
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Hi Noel, I think you are pulling your "Elementary" trick again. This time by creating ambiguity about Freddy's death to your readers. I caught you right?

Well, I might be wrong but it reminds me immediately about what you did with Mycroft in Elementary.

Freddy is obviously no dead. I only wonder what meat Will used to trick Hannibal to think it is human seeing that Hannibal is an expert. Will must find something really similar.

This is one of the best episode of Hannibal. I loved the dinner scene between Will and Hannibal. Finally Hannibal now think he has "converted" Will and must be very pleased with himself.

Hannibal "This animal taste frightened"

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The meat is bitter...about being dead."

Nice !

Really like Michael Pitt performance here. He did not remind me of Jimmy from Boardwalk Empire at all.

Now that Hannibal kind of trust Will, the next three episodes would be about catching him. I do hope they catch him by season finale since there might not be a third season.



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Couldn't Will have used Randall Tier's meat? (not sure if anyone proposed this already, don't have time to read all the comments)
Randall's was also on a highly stressed state while being killed, so his meat could probably fool Hannibal. And I'm also assuming Will kept the rest of his corpse next to his jaw where Freddie found it.
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You could be right. I don't think they will tell us. It seems Will did eat human meat now.
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I agree it was all Will's trick. He said "You can't leave here until you hear what I have to say," not "You can't leave here." She agreed to hide because that will help her with her book. But Will has gone pretty far deciding to eat human flesh to make Hannibal believe that Will is accepting Hannibal's ways.

Margo looks pretty elegant in a riding suit. The makeshift corpse, not so much. Hmmm. Mason made a makeshift corpse of Margo, dressed it with her suit and played her screams while the pigs ate it. He's trying to tell her something, but I can't figure out what. I have cryptic messages.

When I heard Michael Pitt was in this episode, I imagine him as his Broadwalk Empire role. But he looks pretty different, like a mad scientist.

Somehow I think Alana is still safe for a while.
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Will didn't kill Freddy, she plays an important role in Red Dragon and we are not there yet!! This is obviously a trick to make Hannibal fall. Will evidently considers himself better than Hannibal so I don't think he would fall "to his Level".
However, I do believe Hannibal is and will be Will's best influence.
He put Will behind bars in the first season not to be his patsy; he is too clever for that. He did it to turn Will into a stronger, wiser more sure of himself person. And he achieves that. He is an excellent therapist who uses unconventional methods to help patients. Will is too angry to see that. But anger is better than depression. Hannibal says that, too. I don't believe Hannibal is falling for Will's act. He is playing along. He doesn't want a copy of himself, he wants a perfected version of his friend. Someone who is not haunted by the shadows he has to deal with, someone who can kill when it's necessary without having nightmares about it.
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I don't know Dr Chilton plays a role up to Silence of the Lambs and he is dead, plus in the preview for next week's episode we are shown a burning person in a wheelchair going down a street, which is how Freddie dies in RD, unless they are messing with us
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Well, Hannibal did say a couple of episodes ago that Dr. Chilton has many as many victims in life as he does in death. Hannibal doesn't seem like the kind of person to use incorrect grammar. He might not be dead.
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Next week's preview left me scratching my head, too. Freddie dies at the hands of the Tooth Fairy. Right???
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SPOILER ALERT : Yeah, I was also perplexe after watching next week's preview, because Freedie dies brunt alive on a wheel chair, right? So even if Will didn't kill her, then Hannibal will? Anyway, that would mean a serious breach of the Hannibal chronology. Guess we'll have to wait.
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I am not sure that I liked this episode. The fight between Tier and Will was off. First his face was covered by the bone of the animal and anyone with any experience punching people is going to know that punch something as hard as what a bear's skull is going to do more to you than you it. He would have more than some scrapes on his knuckles, he would have likely broken his phalanges, metacarpals and a few carpal bones. Also, and this might just be my pet peeve. But it is not that easy to break someone's neck. Now I am willing to forgive that because Tier had stuff around and attached to his head which would have given Will more leverage, but without a knowledge of the device I still have to call BS on that. And then you have the murder thing.

At the point where he kills Tier, Tier is no longer able to commit any other offense or defense. That is murder, with out without the Castle Doctrine. I know this is fiction, but this is fiction set in the real world. (I know there are a few lawyers out there, so if you want to chime in with you knowledge that would be great) We just had a few cases of home ones luring and then killing people that entered their house. Any semi competent prosecutor should be able to convict on that. Add to that the desecration of the the body, not calling the cops et all and then it just keeps getting worse. Now granted this is all supposed to convince Hannibal that Will is on his side. But to what end, they still don't have any evidence of him doing anything yet. And in their effort they likely compromised their case against him because of the stuff Will has done with Tier. Jack never struck me as an "ends justify the means" kind of guy. But if he made that jump, the means are going to get him in more trouble than he thinks. And if it doesn't, then I am going to kind of lose a little respect for the show.

As for the rest. The love scene was interesting. Though I find it hard to believe that Will still has feelings for Alana given that she is dumb enough to not heed his warning about him and seems so smitten by him. Granted I could by him caring for her and not wanting to get hurt. But this is a whole new level to the Bro Code. Which is never sleep with your sociopathic Bro's Ex girl because she tainted.

The Scene overall was great. Margot was pretty good in it and seems very tactical in methods, which all seem to be laid out well by the writers. But I doubt that she is going to kill her brother. Mostly because I have read the book. But it is nice to see her anyway. Plus I have always like Katherine Isabelle. I hope she sticks around.

The back and forth between Will and Hannibal when they were with both Jack and Alana was fantastic. It was done unbelievably well.

Freddie is alive. I want her dead as much as the next person. Mostly because in a show where people are killers and worse I find her the most creepy and despicable. But I don't really like reporters. It kind of confirmed that Will is trying to play Hannibal. And they can't have her running around telling everyone, because that is exactly what she would do.

But overall, because of the beginning of the episode, I just really didn't like it as much as all of the previous episodes.
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I'm not a lawyer but Will didn't lure him in.
I just know the basics of the laws in my state, which don't apply to Will, and I am intrigued by subchapter D section 9.42 part 2.b
penal code (TX)
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I am not saying that he lured him. I am saying that his actions before and after the event, a semi-talented prosecutor could potentially win the argument saying that he did. Members of the jury, Will Graham, realizing that Mr. Tier was in the forest outside his home, chose to retreat inside his house, chose not to call the police, chose to turn off all of the lights in order to give himself the tactical advantage of the layout of his house. Tier broke in, Mr. Graham discarded his gun to fight him hand to hand, because he wanted to "feel" it. They scuffled, Will the benefit of his law enforcement training won the fight and beat Mr Tier to the point of unconsciousness and then proceeded to break Mr. Tiers neck. Upon defeating his intruder, he did not call the cops to relay the story, he did not call his friend Jack Crawford. He proceeded to move Mr. Tier's body from the scene, desecrate Mr. Tier's body and put him on display at the museum. Members, these are not actions of an innocent man.

Now Texas grants way more powers to home and land owners than the average state. But.

2b."to prevent the other who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property; "

Tier was neither fleeing or attempting to escape with any property. I would imagine that a competent Medical Examiner could determine that the punches to the head while Will was on top of Tier would have rendered him concussed and thusly unconscious and That Will delivered the neck break while Tier was unconscious and incapable to fight back. That would be murder in many jurisdictions.

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I posted a super long response and it disappeared:-(
here's the basics:

I never said Tier was fleeing and just said I found that code to be interesting.

A good lawyer could argue that Will did not lure him. Will heard a noise and went outside to see what it was. He got scared thinking is was a deranged killer with a powerful contraption on his head (seemed to have the force of the jaws of life which may be an over exaggeration but I don't know the engineering terms). So Will ran back into his house and turned off the lights so that he could position himself where Tier couldn't see him an burst in too close that Will wouldn't be able to defend himself. Will didn't have time to call for help but he was in fear for his life (one could argue) so his immediate concern was living (not calling the cops and dealing with explaining what was going on and then waiting for them).

It could be argued that Will didn't use the more lethal gun and instead used his hands. Plus Will was fighting for his life so why would he stop and see if Tier was ok. For me the fight was one fluid act and the filming of it was kind of in slow motion giving the appearance of long pauses for him to deliberate his action. If you are fighting for your life you finish the fight (death). You don't hesitate since that is how the "bad guys" take peoples weapons away and use them on the weapons owners. Didn't Jack pause in the flash forward fight thinking Hannibal was unconscious and what happened? Hannibal was just faking it. No reason that Tier wasn't faking it. Even if he was unconscious or even dead from the blows, Will would of been a fool to pause and possibly make a fatal error that could cost him his life. The neck break was a smart way to finish it.

Remember the filming seems to be in slow motion at times and often it doesn't show stuff accurately. Didn't everyone, well almost everyone, think Gideon was dead after season 1. Didn't most people think Chilton was dead (not confirmed and I don't think he is). I don't trust what is shown but even if it played out exactly as shown, the fight was for his life and he had no option but to kill him since otherwise Tier would keep trying (Will is wise not to trust the judicial system based on his experience) and also would sue him (j/k, lol…seriously though, that often happens)

We all have the capacity for violence and killing especially when in immediate jeopardy. Hopefully Will has the mental fortitude to deal with it (reduce cognitive dissonance). I think people like to think they would act differently in some situations but you really don't know until you are in that situation.

bottom line: person comes into your home to kill you and you fight them and they die…no problem. Even if you paused for a second and it seemed like the person was unconscious, I wouldn't waste time checking to see if they are faking it since that allows them the opportunity to get the better of you. Plus Will's pausing is ambiguous because of the filming style.

His actions after the death of Tier….I agree with you. However maybe he called Jack. There's a lot of stuff that occurs off screen that we don't see.

My prior response that vanished was better…it's late and I should of waited until I had some sleep but then I would of forgot my main points….I already can't remember all of them.

Bottom line: a good lawyer could get will off with self defense and argue the fight was one fluid action without time to assess consciousness.

Plus Will probably had little to no fight training since he was just and FBI consultant (isn't Alana an FBI consultant now). It's not like his body is considered a deadly weapon. Also does it even matter if Will knew Tier was unconscious since he was in the middle of a fight (adrenaline and fear for his life and the fight was one nonstop struggle to survive so he didn't have time, a lawyer could argue, to check level of consciousness to see if faking.
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Great response. I doubt the show is going to get into all of this. But it is a fun debate. However, one thing, Will, lets not forget that he was a Homicide Detective, with that comes defensive tactics training. With that comes a knowledge of the Force Continuum, which means you are allowed to meet force with force, as your opponent escalates their intention so too can you in your defense. But it also works in reverse, as your opponent deescalates or becomes incapable of being the aggressor so too must your defense. At the time of Tier's death he was incapable of providing offense or defense and thus Will was in control and he killed him. You can argue that it was in the heat of the moment. But a prosecutor would say that it violates his training and it was intentional on Will's part and thus the whole thing was intentional.
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His actions after are obviously completely indefensible.

But before?
He followed his dog outside. Found him wounded, realized that something dangerous was out there, picked up the dog and ran back to the house. He then sat in his house, with his gun, and waited. The monster then crashed through the window.

How could there possibly be a problem with that?
You're saying that choosing to try and subdue the intruder with his bare hands, rather than just blowing him full of holes, with a shotgun, as soon as he came through the window, is somehow a problem, legally? I know nothing about American jurisprudence, other than what I've seen on TV, but that sounds really strange.
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A lawyer who isn't completely incompetent could get him off easily imo (not a lawyer but based on the little that I know about self defense laws~but they mainly pertain to my state). Will would of been to stupid to live if he didn't kill Tier who was trying to kill him (and had that scary engineering contraption on his head).

I think the others are arguing that the filming made it look like Will paused and had a chance to assess the level of consciousness (while in the middle of a fight) to see how Tier was doing. If he had time to do that then he just needed to make sure he was dead and going to "wake up" (from a concussion or from faking it) and overpower him when Will's back is turned. In a fight for your life I'd think one would fight to the death to make 100% sure your are safe. Just look at what happens to Jack in the flash forward when he didn't do that (I may be misremembering the flash forward but I think Hannibal tricked him into thinking he was unconscious).

Regardless, I agree with you
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"At the point where he kills Tier, Tier is no longer able to commit any other offense or defense. That is murder, with out without the Castle Doctrine."
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THANK YOU.

So sick of the self-defense claim, it does not work here.
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Not a fan of how they are dumbing down Alana. What did you think of Mason?
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Too soon to tell on Mason, thus far I don't see anything from the book. I am not sure if the introduction of the pigs this soon is good or not. I like Margot. But Mason seems almost cartoon like thus far.
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I had similar thoughts about the opening fight scene while watching it, in terms of what was covering Randall's face. I went back to look at it out of curiosity and it looks like Will removes part of Randall's helmet at some point, as the final shot of Randall's lifeless face (after Will imagines he's savagely beating Hannibal) shows part of the helmet missing.

It's pretty tough to tell, since most of that scene involves Will seeing either the stag-man or Hannibal superimposed over Randall. It does kind of look like Will jerks upward when pushing back from the wall, and you see him make a ripping motion against the stag-man's "horns". Not sure if either of those details are an accurate explanation, but who knows? The show is usually pretty good about those kind of little details, but nobody's perfect.
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Yea I am not sure I liked the switching between the Will fighting the Stag and will fighting Tier. That might have been what felt off about it and led to my critique of it. It just seemed off. Especially considering in the previous episode we see Tier likely by some engineering feet lift a man off of the ground from atop a semi truck. If he is capable of that type of engineering i doubt it would be that easy to remove something that he made to bite into a human. This show is great about keeping it within the realm of reality. But that might have been a too much for me.
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They where eating Randall and Freddie was read in on the "lets fool Hannibal plan" and is hiding somewhere.
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I doubt that Freddie is hiding willingly or has been "read-in".
She is being held in "protective" custody.
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Boy, am I thick! I did realize that it was all a trick on Will's part and they weren't eating Freddie. I didn't realize it was probably Randall. Holy shit.
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Hiding along with Chilton.
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Exactly what I think.
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I'm kind of lost here...do we have now 2 X Hannibals? or is this a bigger plan to prove that Hannibal is the Chesapeake Riper? I suspect the latter, but anyhow an awesome episode! Dark...darker...darkest...
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Will went a lot further tonight than I thought he would.
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Does anyone recognize the bedroom in which Hannibal was sitting with his plastic suit? Freddie's house? Will's? Stag painting on the wall originally led me to believe it was the latter, but the flow of the story leads me to think it was the former.
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It was Freddie's apartment. They made a point earlier in the episode to show Freddie walking through her apartment and her bedroom, so we would recognize it as her home when we saw Hannibal in it later.
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I'm pretty sure he was waiting to kill Freddie.
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Agreed. I think Hannibal lies in wait for Freddie, and she is indeed, in deep s**t.
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It´s so sad that Will think about Alana in the five-way scene, and when He almost touched her in her imgination and she turns to HAnnibal...I think Will is cheating Lecter...but there is this small doubt that is killing me!!!
More and more cannibal puns, I love them!
(Soooooooooooo sexy Will nowadays, I have to confess that this killer Will is making me crazy)
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Noel, question;
I've always loved and feared the phrase, "Event horizon," and yes, I know what an event horizon is. Why did you choose to call this review this name? I'm curious to know what you see.
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i thought he was making a sly reference to that crappy sci-fi movie from several years ago where lawrence fishburne was the captain and discovers a haunted lost ship in space. i am not a big fan of fishburne although i do like him in hannibal. still in event horizon, a feat occurred that does not normally occur in horror or sci-fi flicks--two african-american males survived.
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"crappy" is a little harsh, in my opinion. The final cut of Event Horizon certainly faltered in some places, but some really interesting art and production work went into its creation. Unfortunately, a lot got left on the cutting room floor due to ratings pressure, and it was made JUST a smidge too early (relative to the digital age) for there to be digital prints of it that could result in a DVD/BluRay re-release.

Read about its production sometime, though. There's some articles out there and it's pretty fascinating stuff, particularly the elaborately designed practical effects used to make some of the viscerally unnerving "hell scenes" you see brief flashes of... most of which, again, were sadly left on the cutting room floor and have been lost to time.
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thanks for the insight. i will keep that in mind if i am ever brave enough to board the event horizon again. but i have to admit, one ride on that intergalactic house of horrors is enough for me. i am probably doing untold damage to my psyche by lusting after mads mikkelsen's hannibal. it has to be wrong to be sexually attracted to a cannibal/serial killer.
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Of course it's psychologically ridiculous to suppose that anyone 'regains their power' or 'comes into their own' by becoming a serial killer etc.-but that is the seductive line which Hannibal uses to train and 'create' killers. Why does he do that?

Must make him feel powerful, as if it's a 'design' of his own. But under it all he must be so empty-otherwise, why the endless need to kill over and over again.

In the book I believe they said he had trauma from the Nazi's-so he's replaying it all.

His 'tenderness' is like the 'tenderness' of a rapist-making his crime all the more horrible. It is all for his own needs of course. Interesting to here the crazy ideas he holds, "Death is what makes us great " etc........

Anyway, Will sure looks all spaced out in these epdisodes-makes me wonder if he is REALLY turning into a killer or just 'faking it'! If he is REALLY becoming the killer then the show has indeed crossed a line (shivver)


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i gotta agree. there is no legacy in taking life just for the hell of it. hannibal comes off as so empty and shallow. with his intellect, he could be working on diseases to cure the masses. that's another thing. i assume that hannibal's preternatural sense of smell precludes him from eating a human being who is dying of cancer or tuberculosis or diabetes or any of the dozens of other diseases that afflict human flesh.
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Well, I certainly hope Will didn't kill Freddie. Killing Randall can be justified as self defense, but if he killed Freddie it's murder. I'm hoping she's tied up somewhere, or maybe Will convinced her of the danger she's in off camera and got her to go along with faking her death. Perhaps he promised her the real story.

I wasn't impressed with Mason Verger. He came off like a cartoon villain.
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Agreed about Mason.
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Agree about Mason, I blame casting.
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I'd blame Fuller, not Pitt, for Mason being cartoonish. It's being used in place of showing us the incest/pedophilia/rape/etc which helps define the character of Mason.
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incest/pedophilia/rape?

stop teasing me. you had me at incest.
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i dunno, sometimes hannibal teeters on the only in the movies and on television kind of uber-villainy.
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this is actually the first time when I enjoyed Freddie as a character. I refuse to believe that she is dead. No f.... way.

Only 3 episodes left and they really need to do something with Alana Bloom. This character deserves better.
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Alana deserves what is coming for her.
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The title of this episode should have been "Will and Hannibal in the Sky with Diamonds"
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***deep sigh***oh, the aching romance of it all. one cultured sociopath and one eager to please apprentice. just makes me all goose pimply.
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It's obvious to me that the reason Will had to stage Freddie's death was because Alana told Hannibal that Freddie was suspecting him about being the Chesapeake Ripper, not because Will wanted to make Hannibal believe he's willing to become like him. There's a scene of Hannibal wearing his plastic murder suit waiting in someone's house, if you look really hard that's Freddie's house, it means that he's waiting for Freddie to come home and kill her. However, WIll knew this and he planned to save her. He made an interview appointment with her at his house and conveniently left home at the right time, knowing how nosy Freddie was and how likely she would snoop around his house and find what he put there. I mean for a FBI agent, Will would not be that stupid to leave evidence tracing to his murder right in his home unless he wants it that way. Of cource the rest is as we have seen in this episode, Freddie is safe now. This episode proves to me that Will is still a good person since he risked so much just to save Freddie' life even willingly eating and swalllowing human flesh (Randal's flesh) just to convince Hannibal. However this is not in Will and Jack's initial plan, they had to do this but they didn't plan it and I'm not sure that Hannibal is easily fooled by this. Everything has been good for Will so far, but this may ruin his act.

Btw, I just wonder how long Hannibal had to wait in Freddie's house before leaving? Being a serial killer must be a tough job!
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your explanation of the recent turn of events is very cogently expressed.

still, i kinda want freddie to be dead. changing the gender from the movie does not make her character any more palatable. funny now i am even talking about human beings like they are dishes to be served on a plate. hannibal really is infectious.

of course, is everyone really willing to forgive freddie for breaking and entering and trespassing on private property?

there's also a prevailing thought that chilton is still alive, but give me a break. this man has been disemboweled and shot in the head at point blank rage. if he survives it turns him into the wile e. coyote character from the bugs bunny cartoons.
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Chilton is most definitely alive. If he was dead, Freddie wouldn't be repeating the rumour that he's run away. The horrifying scars that Will is supposed to have in the books will be given to Chilton. and all Will's scars will be psychological.
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It seems strange that Chilton might be alive, but it's hard not to at least wonder, given how suspiciously the episode after avoided addressing Chilton, despite his "death" scene being the climax of the previous episode (and something that would involve serious concerns of liability for the FBI in the real world). Miriam Lass also seems to have suddenly dropped off the face of the planet, narratively.

There's also the matter of Bryan Fuller's comments, although he could just be planting red herrings (and expressing his love of the awesome Raul Esparza): "As far as canon goes, I wouldn't put it past me to have [Chilton] show up looking like Ed Harris in History of Violence in Season 3 or 4," Fuller says with a laugh. "I love Raul and I love what he brings to the atmosphere of the show. Serpico survived a shot to the face! That's not exactly where we're going, but I would never count out Dr. Chilton."
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I've been pondering the possibility that not only is Chilton alive, but Miriam was in on it. I find it hard to believe that a senior agent (Jack) would be careless enough to let someone take away his gun; and I'm especially skeptical that a woman who has spent at least a year in captivity, hasn't held a gun in that time, and is now less one arm and plus one clumsy prosthesis could 1) steal a senior agent's sidearm, 2) shoot a man in the face through a glass window, 3) do so without harming the psychiatrist between her and the man, all while having a panic attack. So I'm theorizing that whole scene was theater staged for the benefit of Alana (who they know is sleeping with Hannibal) and the public at large. Jack let Miriam take his gun, Miriam pretended to be freaking out, and she deliberately fired through the glass but aimed away from anyone; Chilton was rigged with blood squibs.
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lol...all i could concentrate on is that the nameless one is sleeping with the public at large. i knew she was a slut. oh, the sweet smell of vindication.
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i hope that's true. don't get me wrong. i love dr. chilton in a perverse sort of way. i even liked dr. chilton in the movie version. i just could never understand what he saw in that rube clarice starling.
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Very interesting!
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Will and Hannibal are the cutest couple. Sending people to kill each other, eating human flesh together, they're just perfect for each other.
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a subtly sexy emotionally fragile man and his handsome, deranged, cannibalistic mentor. if that is not the storyline for a harlequin romance, then i do not know what is.
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Great review for a pretty good episode.
  • Nearly 100% certain Freddie is alive and was not eaten at that last scene
  • Mason's creepiness if off the charts esp training his pigs to eat humans who are alive ie Margot, watch your step.
  • Margot's having Will's baby? What can I say, in this wacky show Will&Margot is as cute as a couple gets...
  • On the not-cute-at-all couple front, ugh more Alana with Hannibal. Sure Hannibal is convincing as a psychiatrist but a lover spouting all that BS about that irritating string instrument, give me a break... Alana can't you tell the guy is a total douche?
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OMG! That was amazing. The cinematography was remarkable and the food look so good.

Also I knew that Margo's intention was to get pregnant before killing her brother, I can't wait to see how that plays out.
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Yep, she was making her legacy, as Hannibal told her she'd have to do.
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boy it does not take much to get will's little will motivated does it?
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All it takes is any random freak knockin' on the door.
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Its Katherine Isabelle, I mean, come on, she is freaking gorgeous.
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It seems so obvious to me that Freddie is not dead and she is being kept safe like I think Chilton is being kept safe. Will, the character, is a brilliant actor and is fooling Hannibal. You can tell it's just an act by how he dropped the act with Freddie but she was too freaked out to listen to him (I don't blame her). I'm impressed that Will is willingly eating people as part of his ruse. I do think the human meat was Tier and not Freddie.

I've been good with my guesses on this show so far and I may be wrong about this (but I don't think so). I think that "ice fishing" scene was a vitally important scene to understanding Will's actions. I think Will using his dark side (not the best term) to fool Hannibal but Will is not getting lost in his "dark side".
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i do not disagree with your hypothesis, but it is hard for me to see freddie as a innocent victim. i wish she had become hannibal's latest entree'. the only good thing she did was call out the nameless one her less than stellar judgment for bedding her previous professor who had several patients to all die under gruesome circumstances in his care. on that point freddie was dead on and she made the nameless on look like a fool who has no sort of intuition or judgment. if m friend is a private tutor and several of his students end up dead under mysterious circumstances, i just might start looking at my friend the tutor with a little side eye suspicion.
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I never said Freddie was an innocent victim. I look forward to Hannibal killing her but first Alana needs to DIE;-) The only interesting female left on the show is Margo;-(
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when i read of the nameless one dying, i get the same kind of giddy experience that a pubescent boy gets when he finds his first playboy magazine in his father's desk drawer.
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Definitely with you on Freddie. The set up, esp. the voicemail to Jack, was so clearly staged... And this is all from the Jack-Will pow wow while ice fishing (there had to be a good reason for that uncomfortable sport). I am not sure about Chilton but I hope he is also alive. The Freddie 'stunt' would support the theory in that Will & Jack are running their own Witness Protection mini programme... Perhaps Dr. du Maurier is there too?
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chilton was shot in head at point blank range and wasn't he disemboweled just last year? is he made out of rubber? how much torture and trauma can one human body sustain without looking like a cartoon character which saps away all credibility?
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He was shot in the cheek.
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One thing I really get about this show that makes it perfect is that it's like a private interpretation game among the viewers. We all have such varied opinions... I like mine, mine works for me. I love the fantasy this show has given me. I admire how others interpret it too - though the show is generous enough to let us all have our own way. I see all the viewpoints and they are all valid.

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nah, i only agree with my viewpoint cause it's correct. please, i'm joking--mostly, sort of...lol.
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So, if they weren't eating Freddie, who were they eating? I can't imagine Hannibal would be fooled on the subject of meat. He would know the difference in a nanosecond if it were human flesh or animal. He may not know 'who' he's eating, but he'd know if it were human or not.

Also...quick butchering job, Will. THAT was a little bizarre and unbelievable to me.
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The man he beat to death.
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uh, hannibal definitely know who he is eating--and she shall be nameless.
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One: Freddie is NOT dead. Two: you feeling the line has been crossed, is exactly the point. So, bravo Bryan Fuller.

This is a gorgeous show that dances along the dark boundaries of the mind... even the provocative sexual imagery is part of that fold... and goes even further to illustrate just how dark and sadistic it all really is... in a masterful, beautiful and even a loving way.

Hannibal's parental nature of Will is tender; and as a doctor, he takes good and evil, and moral obligation off the table, and drills in the psyche of the patients, extracts its needs... and creates an enviroment free from the bounds that society places... and nurtures you along to fulfill those needs; to do what is craved, in order to move forward, regardless of consequence. It's sorta epic.

Will can dance in those dark crevasses, and seemingly take it too far, because in one way or another, there is an amount of comfort in it, it's a place he's called home. He loathes it, but it's that ability to go there, that allows him to do what he does best.

Will... the man can bait a fish.
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Soooo....what does everyone think Will did with Freddie? I don't think he killed her (or I am going to claim that ignorance is bliss for now). Maybe he put her in a hole like Hannibal did that aspiring female detective from season 1??? Idk but I am interested in what others think. Thanks

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if hannibal could take lass' leg, then i want will to extract freddie's vocal chords and he and hannibal can have them in a marvelous pasta dish.
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I think that she's alive.
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Not for long. Flaming wheelchair, just like in the book.
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That's not cool.
Not everyone here has read the books.
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Hannibal and Will….
It's beginning to take stale to be honest. Loved the show but things are becoming odd for me.
Excellent job Mr. Noel! I am right there with you and I am becoming confused. Before I get into that, I must make mention of Alana and her ignorance is bliss frame of mind. My thing is, I thought she was intuitive, smart and that her instincts would sharpen as the show aged but that has not happened in my eyes as of yet. She is useless at this point...kill her off...send her to Washington...put her in a hole...i don't really care!! They should have swapped her role for Freddie's untimely abduction?? because Freddie was at least interesting. She was afraid to make waves and get in people's business. She answered a few of my questions and her sort of crazy was, in my opinion, what the show needed to pull us out of this Hannibal/Will freakshow every once in a while (plus it actually provided insight into some of the murders and she was the only one that would challenge either man). I WANT FREDDIE BACK!
Anyway, I just know that I am on the cusp because I don't really like the corner that Will has turned--which is a shame! I was so looking forward to him beating Hannibal at his own game but I was not wanting to show in the direction of having TWO HANNIBALS! I LOVED the distinction that has now been erased between Hannibal and Will this week unfortunately. I LOVED that Will could play the game but I didn't want him to evolve into a Dr. Lecter. Just my two cents....until next week...lol (my mind changes from episode to episode lately). ☺
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well, right now will could not be hannibal because will is not sleeping with that quack psychiatrist and hannibal is. besides, will has a way to go before he looks as good in a pair of abbreviated trunks as hannibal did during his crucifixion by will's lovelorn fanboy.
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I think this may actually be one of the best episodes of the series, and its because I don't know how to feel about it. Throughout this episode I wavered from guilty pleasure with seeing Hannibal and Will sharing their secret, murderous bond, to discomfort in the shared intimacy/sex scene, and finally to anxiousness at the thought that Will may have actually killed Freddie.

I feel like Hannibal through its story telling in this episode is allowing me to feel what Will is feeling - a rush of varying emotions and the anxiety that comes with entering into the unknown and discovering new things.

Up until now I've been on the 'Will is playing Hannibal' train. I haven't thought that Chilton is really dead. Rather that it was staged so that Hannibal will let his guard down now that "the Ripper" is dead and the case closed. I also don't think - or at least I don't want to think - that Will killed Freddie and served her up for an intimate dinner with Hannibal.

At this point I have no choice but to give up my assumptions about what will happen based on the Harris novels or the movies and let the writers of the show tell me their version of the story. I haven't been disappointed by the show so far, so why fight against the natural development by interjecting the constraints of previous Hannibal stories?

Beverly Katz is dead. Dr. Chilton may be dead. Freddie Loundes may be dead. Will Graham might be a fledgling serial killer, and he may not be the person that ultimately snares Hannibal Lecter. We know that there is an upcoming battle between Jack Crawford and Hannibal Lecter, because the writers have shown it to us. We know that the last thing we see of that flash forward is Jack bleeding from the neck in a pantry or closet. I've assumed up until now that by the end of this season everyone will know what Hannibal really is. Wouldn't it be an interesting development if Will ends up saving Hannibal by finishing off Crawford?

The possibilities with this show are endless and nothing is off the table. I still haven't landed on a single feeling about this episode, and I absolutely love it.
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I really liked Mason Verger in this episode. I want to see more of him! He seems so deliciously crazy and cruel.
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if they show as much of mason verger as the did of michael pitt in the movie, the dreamers, i will be one happy viewer.
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@treeton127 Roll out the crazy! I loved him too and can't wait to see how his role develops in the final episodes of the season. Maybe they should have introduced him a bit earlier...hmmm...
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I need to watch this episode several more times. I find that every time I re-watch, I get much more out of it. There are always subtleties and deeper messages and oft times, I don't pick it all up on the first viewing.

However, this last ep really had me riveted. I'm trying not to read everyone's comments here yet so I can remain with my original response to it...at least for a while.

Having said that - I almost think we're being played as viewers; it almost feels like we're this 'in the know' club that assumes Will is just doing a great job setting Hannibal up for the kill. If we didn't get to see inside Will's mind (the stag-killing representation, the fantasy of a bloodied and beaten Hannibal on the floor - all while kicking the everlovin shit out of Randall) I think we'd be looking at the exterior and seeing his actions as an elaborate plan...but that's not the case - we DO see inside Will's mind, and he looks EXTREMELY present and available for a full-on murderous possession. I don't get that he's NOT INTO IT. I get that he's frothing at the mouth for this, that he enjoys this in ways that shock and delight him, in the darkest ways possible. I think there is a chance we are being manipulated into thinking we know better when in fact, we are really watching the making of a serial killer. I am not under the impression that Will despises this - perhaps in the beginning...but now he is the devil he knows. How many times have we heard, "If you can't beat him, join him?"

These two are playing a very VERY hardcore game. The stakes are always life or death. Sometimes they're in collusion, and sometimes opposition - but always the game is on. This is the ultimate duel by the ultimate duo.

And I think it's a love affair. I really do. There is no gender here, these 'men' are representations of power and energy.

I envy their friendship because at the root of it is love. They are their own secret society, they live by their own rules. I've known what it's like to look into another's eyes and share a secret that is accompanied by a secret smile -- it's god.

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you go straight to the head of the class. i could not have said it better: a love affair...no gender...representations of power and energy. the way you described it, i now want a sexy serial killer mentor who falsely accused me of a crime and had me locked a way for a while in an insane asylum. hmmm...who will be my first victim? hey, how about the little lady down the street who will not keep her goddamned terrier out of my lovely rhododendrons? she's as likely a candidate as any.
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Honestly...I truly HOPE we are getting played...I'd feel much better about the show's turn of events and mincing of roles. @Deee
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Well, we know what happened to Freddie. She was 'honored.'
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I'm actually quite liking the ambiguity of it all. Is Will playing at monster to catch Hannibal or is he tricking Jack by playing at monster-catching whilst really wanting to indulge his darkness? Or is it both? Obviously, we know what will eventually happen, but I'm liking the injection of uncertainty about it all.

I do feel there was something missing from this episode, but I'm wondering if they might be purposeful to, like gaps in events that will be filled it later - like Will calling Jack after the Randall Tier attack or when Freddie showed up at his house. We are seeing it in relation to Hannibal's view, but maybe later we'll see it in relation to Jack and Will's.

I don't think Freddie is dead, though. I wouldn't be surprised if Jack has her locked away in a safe house or protective custody for now. They need Will to be so "obviously" a killer and monster in Hannibal's eyes so that he actually, verbally confesses that he is the same. Plus, Will had to know that Hannibal was going to kill her after the conversation with Alana, that he stepped in first.
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I hope Freddie is not dead. and I hope that Jack is in the picture for Will's sake. I'm not sure though if this is what really happened.
And yes I think some parts of the story are not in shown and maybe by the end of this season we'll see the whole picture? I do hope that the writers don't leave us on a cliffhanger
Yes we know eventually Jack will catch hannibal but what about Will?

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