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    skippercollecto

    [1]Jun 4, 2009
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    I've noticed a few details as I've been watching the first season on DVD, and have questions about some of the scenes.

    1. What are the ages of the characters? I don't mean how old the actors were at the time the show filmed, but rather their character ages. Jason is a lot older than Joshua and Jeremy, and Biddie seems older than the other brides.

    2. What IS Biddie's background? Although she knows zilch about religion or politics or any social graces, she seems to know about different types of liquor and card games!

    3. Why do several eating scenes have all of them eating hard-boiled eggs? Was there a story behind this?

    4. What else has Hoke Howell been in? He seems very familiar, but maybe I am just thinking of Ike Godsey in The Waltons.

    5. Why was Jeremy's stuttering written into the overall plot? I know the the script said that he started stuttering after his mother died, but that's not my question. It just seems an odd plot device for a family western series.

    6. Do you think the "three disparate brothers, various ages" concept was borrowed/stolen from Bonanza?

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    hctbfan54

    [2]Nov 6, 2012
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    1. In Season 1, Episode 12 "After A Dream Comes Mourning" Candy, Jason, and Clancey's navigator, Dmitri, take shelter in the original Bolt home on the east side of Bridal Veil Mountain. Candy discovers that, at one time, the 3 brothers names, heights, and ages had been carved next to the fire place. At the time, Jeremy was age 2; Joshua, age 6, and Jason, age 13. Therefore, Jason was 7 yrs older than Josh, 11 yrs older than Jeremy. Josh was 4 hrs older than Jeremy. The age difference was never explained, but considering the rate of infant/child mortality in the mid-19th century, it is possible. HCTB fans conjecture that, at the time of the pilot episode, Jeremy was between 18 - 21 yrs old; Joshua, 22 - 25 yrs. old; and Jason, 29 - 32 yrs. old. IMO, Jeremy was 21, Josh - 24, and Jason, 32 yrs old.


    2. The role of Biddie Cloom was intended as a comic character; so yes, she does appear at times to be a dimwit. Actually, if you view all the episodes and know something about history, Biddie was fairly well informed for a mid-century American woman about politics, religion, and social graces.


    3. Don't know if there was any specific intention to serve hard-boiled eggs in the dining sequences, but that item is very common at American picnics and informal suppers. It would have been immediatelyfamiliarto the mid-20th century American viewer.


    4. Hoke Howell did not portray Ike Godsey in The Waltons. He was Dudley A. Wash, husband of Charlene Darling, on the Andy Griffith Show.


    5. In many ways, HCTB was a ground-breaking series. It was not strictly a Western. Jeremy's hesitation stammer was an intentional plot device to make the role a sympathetic one. It allowed the masculine character to appear vulnerable and sensitive; much like the oversized Hoss Cartwrightportrayed as sensitive and caring. Co-star Bridget Hanley praised actor Bobby Sherman for his couragein taking on the role in a less enlightened era. Also, persons with speech impediments - and theirfamilies -appreciated seeing a highly-visible character show the handicap in a positive manner.

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    hctbfan54

    [3]Nov 6, 2012
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    6. No, the disparate ages and personalities were not borrowed/stolen from Bonanza. The original concept for HCTB was created by N. Richard Nash, who also wrote the play, The Rainmaker, which was made into a film starring Katharine Hepburn and Burt Lancaster. A more obvious influence was Seven Brides for Seven Brothers, a musical about a pioneer family in Oregon. Quite a spectrum of characters ranging from Adam, Benjamin, Caleb, Daniel, Ephraim, and Frank(incense) to Gideon.
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    hctbfan54

    [4]Nov 6, 2012
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    BTW, Bobby Sherman trained with a speech therapist to accurately portray a young man with a hesitation stammer. The character Jeremy Bolt was originally offered to David Soul, then a young apprentice actorat Screen Gems; but he turned it down to play middle brother Joshua.


    Apparently the creator, N. Richard Nash(who stuttered as a child and had a sympathetic older sister)and studio chief thought it was important to plot/character development that Jeremy be a stutterer.

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