the previous episode was pretty good - this one, well, a total disaster. it made absolute no sense for elle to suddenly become her old self, and it kinda neutralized her character aswell, killing all the development happened to her this season so far.
Nathan and Peter getting lost in the jungle or whatever made no friggin sense and was extremely dull.
Same for Matt and co waiting infront of Daphne's home for something to happen....
And same for every other storyline anyway. the slow mo they used during the scene Claire got shot was so.... amatuer, its incredible.
haha, this show is so crap. even though they have a good idea(the ECLIPSE) they execute it so badly, i dont even care for it now.
From the corny revelation of the catalyst at the end of the last episode through the end of this episode and possibly beyond, Heroes has quickened the pace of its decline that so many others have seen and I have managed to thus far blind myself to. The catch for this episode is that all of the Heroes no longer have powers. Comically, they continue perform the actions associated with the use of their powers only to discover that the powers are gone. In at least one case, the power-user makes a fool of himself.
The lack of powers leads to an extension of the idea first mentioned in the show by the African Future Painter. The Heroes must not rely on their powers to fulfill their goals and must hold on to their human aspects such as their intellect. In this instance, it was initiated by Hiro in yet another comic scene (it involves corn).
Concerning future painting, it was well done in the first season with Isaac being the only one who can do it, especially since he was rarely directly involved with the paintings. He was like a third party (similar to a writer of the show) who, in a manner of speaking, controlled the actions of the other Heroes. Now, knowledge of the future seems to be a crutch that the writers use to force the story to move forward. 9th Wonder comics still appear and tell Hiro and Ando what to do. Has anybody wondered where all these 9th Wonder comics are coming from? I have my theories, but an episode review is not the place for them. In short, the comic books are too convenient.
The coming of the eclipse and the mystery around its link to the powers was very poorly executed. It seems to me that at least one person in this episode foresaw the effects of the eclipse and took actions accordingly. Now, it's possible that this person was unaware of the extent to which the eclipse's effects spread, or some other internal notification prompted this character's actions. Despite these possibilities, I still find this part of the episode to be unacceptable (but that's just my opinion).
At one point in the episode, conversation reveals that Peter is a nurse. What a blast from the past! Peter's a nurse? I don't remember him doing any of that stuff since Charles DeVeaux died. Congratulations Peter on your six months as a nurse followed by being immediately thrust into this nonsensical adventure of people with powers who are literally playing with people's lives for their own mysterious purposes. Who knows what these purposes are: perhaps they are nothing more than the cliched "I want to conquer the world" idea. The original selling point of the show was that these are regular people with super powers, but I can assure you that by the end of the first season they were no longer ordinary people. They had become superheroes without alter-egos who somehow manage to maintain some level of income by quarreling among themselves and mysteriously maintaining some kind of income.
My final complaint pertains not only to this episode but the entire season. I understand that television shows will always advertise their show as being great, especially when past performance was so high. But the hype they built for "Villains" pretty much ruined it. The first few episodes and the premise were pretty well written but the rapid introduction and elimination of characters was infuriating to me as a viewer. Also (not pertaining to this specific episode), I can't stand the introduction of characters just for the sake of introducing them. What purpose did Maya honestly serve the storyline that warranted so much screen time. I apologize for this brief tangent. But more to the point, it feels to me as though the writers are incapable of creating compelling climaxes. The season one finale, was an all around disappointment to every fan I have met (in person). This supposedly climactic episode was laughable, literally. It was far more comic than dramatic, as stated above with each character's realization of their loss of power. This episode was shameful.
On a brighter note, I must say that fans of Heroes who agree with all or part of what I have said should not give up on the show just yet. Like in real life, things can make a 180-degree turn at the flip of a switch (but sometimes it just takes a little bit of extra effort). It is possible that the writers of Heroes can bring the quality back to its former glory. It may take awhile, but it could happen. '24' (based on my opinion) had a terrible second and third season but almost immediately turned it around by the beginning of the fourth season mostly be resetting the story. The fourth season of '24' far exceeded my expectations and made me believe that it would continue to get better. The fifth season did not disappoint. What I am saying here is that given the chance, Heroes can make its way back to the top of the charts as long as the fans stay loyal and those guys behind the scenes give as much control to the viewer as they sometimes imply.
This was an episode that i have been looking forward to for a long time but it turned out to be a horribly boring episode that showed me that if these characters did not have super powers then they would not be interesting characters at all. One, why is Mohinder still alive, his character is so boring and he is truely the dumbest scientist ever. I really wished that his father would take his place because in season one his father was 10 times better character that he was. Two, it took forever for claire to get shot. We all saw it coming thanks to the fact that it was in the trailer and they mention it 100 million times during this episode. Three, wow she was crippled. Okay i feel sad for the speedster but it was not that much of a shocker. I thought it would be something deeper that would possible give her an episode i imagine before. Four, Petrellie's father was so boring all he did was say a bunch of stuff about the future, his character becomes completely boring without super powers. Things that i did like were Skylar and Elle. Yeah Kristen Bell, she is wonderful too bad she is going to die before this volume ends or at least that is what i think is going happen. I hope Skylar stays on the show as long as possible because he is just a great character. As for everyone else they can die because i am bored with them already.
The expectation level for this show has kind of fallen off, which is making these average epsiodes a little better for me. Last season this episode would have been rated about a 6 or so, but this season I don't have the highest expectations like I used to. I really like Matthew Parkmans storyline right now, him and Daphnie really do have a pretty good relationship with one another. There were two aspects of that storyline I didnt like: Hiro and the John Locke. Hiro being 10 years old, while entertaining acting skills, is a really stupid plotline I think. Also - Daphnie being John Locke under the eclipse? Im starting to think all the Lost references are just insults now. Think of how you felt when Locke was revealed to be paralyzed, and then think about this episode. They don't compare and what Heroes did was terrible. Combine that with the Nathan / Jack massive beard and this isn't the only time Hereos has done this. Other then that though - Matt Parkman is carrying the show for me right now and you never would have thought that at all a season ago. Nathan and Peters storyline trying to find the Hiatain seems like the massive part 2 to this whole thing. Claire + HRG have lost chemistry since season one, seems like all they do is grow apart now the more and more we learn about them. Sylar + Elle is pretty decent, they kind of picked up the slack for Claire + HRG.
Well as normal as they can be. I think the results of this eclipse are going to be interesting. Suresh going back to the beginning before he got stupid. Gabriel and Elle finding themselves under at odds with each other and switching to being into each other. Peter and Nathan typical brothers whether they have their powers or not. I knew Daphne had a secret about her life before her powers and when she walked out, I honestly wasn't surprised. Hiro needs to grow up, this 10 year old Hiro is getting really old. Angela as always is watching out for her boys, Ms. Saunders better watch out for herself.
It wasn't bad at all, it was good even, but it was very obviously a lead in for episodes eleven and twelve. Which is fine and necessary even but it just makes me want to see episodes eleven a twelve that much more.
Tracey is playing both sides, though I'm guessing as a double sided lady herself Angela won't be falling for it. HRG and Claire are finally back together, working through some of their issues with one another, but that might not last. Nathan and Peter are dealing with some world threatening and some personal problems (I have a theory about Peter's purpose) in Haiti while retrieving the Haitian, the only man who can help them stop Arthur. Makes sense, though if you ask me couldn't someone just go take him out now. I mean he has no powers, I realize no one else does either but still. Then again no one knew that this eclipse would be playing the wacky with their abilities so I suppose they didn't have time to prepare.
I wasn't sure last week if Arthur was holding Mohinder at Pinehearst against his will but now I am. Mohinder may have been staying there voluntarily before because Arthur promised him help (and in part for Maya) but now that the eclipse has struck Arthur is insisting Mohinder keep at his work, even though Mohinder's abilities are temporarily gone.
Hiro and Ando have teamed up with Matt to bring Arthur down but on the way little Hiro manages to teach Matt something. Over the years all the characters have become very reliant on their powers, even if they didn't realize it. In ways they didn't realize even. Hiro showed Matt that he's still powerful without actual powers and he can still find ways to solve things, to stop things, to help people. He just needs to do it in a different way (that's actually probably a reference to all the characters regarding their powers, one in particular). Turns out though that Daphne didn't exactly need saving from something. Something is happening to her, something physical. I thought maybe it was tied to her powers but when Mohinder's went away all the side effects, the physical manifestations went away so I'm not so sure anymore. I'm thinking she's sick, poor Matt he can't catch a break with love.
Sylar is very eager to run after the tennis ball the moment his father throws it, strange I never pictured him as the whipped type but hey there's a first time for everything. In the beginning it seemed like Elle was generally worried about Gabriel, trying to show him that he shouldn't let his father control him. Then when they were at the car rental place it almost seemed like she was goading him into using his powers. But perhaps she was just trying to illustrate a point, he's powerful. More powerful that he knows and has been acting, which makes him a perfect target for people like Arthur and even Angela in some ways to use and manipulate into what they want. But what about him, what does he really want? Who is he really? Angela tells him he can be good, so he tries. Arthur says join him, so he does. Maybe he's a litlte more whipped then he first appears.
Gabriel has shown he wants to be good person, whether he's allied with Arthur or Angela he does seem to genuinely be trying. But what about that car rental guy? Did he kill him? I want to know badly because that one moment could speak volumes about his personal choice vs. what people want him to chose, what they are essentially trying to make him chose.
That end scene was intense. We've seen Gabriel without his powers a couple times. In season 1 one they went away, season 2 when he was infected by the virus but he's never actually been totally free of them. Both times they were just suppressed but this time they are completely gone, side effects and all. He's vulnerable to pain again now that he can no longer heal (Zach did a good job faking that injury, I mean wow he really looked like he was in pain with the screaming there). He's just human, no powers, no hunger. He's completely free. It's funny that in that moment Elle would show that she still feels very, very guilty about putting him on the path to becoming Sylar. We saw it in episode 8 (Villains) and she talked about it in the last episode (It's Coming) but I think the fact that it came up again shows that though she's forgiven herself for a lot she still feels guilty over a lot of the choices she made as 'a company girl'. Even with forgiveness, from herself and others, you can't just shrug those sort of things off. In the last episode we saw that she understands that Gabriel isn't responsible for the lives he took, if she can forgive him for killing her father then she could probably forgive him anything. And if he can forgive her...the more I think about it the more they seem like a perfect match in almost every way possible (I already love them of course). Apparently, Gabriel thinks so too. He wanted her before, when they first met, and he wants her now. He was free of his hunger and he went right for Elle. It was short (of course) but intense, then again that could have been HRG pointing a gun at them.
My question is who was he aiming at did he want to 'finish' things with Sylar, or shoot the chick who shot his daughter?
That being said that was a really, really good kiss. I'm already pretty much in love with Sylar/Elle. I'm not naive enough to think that it's going to end well, I mean come on but I already love them none the less. So when they blow up I'll have something to be devestated about, so I have that to look forward to. That'll be fun.
Now a theory of mine. I have faith that Sylar will abandon Arthur (yes I am 100% biased because I adore Sylar and am rooting for him 100%), I completely believe in him and I think now that he has Elle (whether he gets to keep her or not) he just needs one more specific piece. One more specific person to help him make the final transition into Gabriel. Someone who is wondering about their purpose.
I've been a loyal fan from the beginning and heroes is in fact the first TV show that I have ever loyally watched on TV. This episode begins to reveal how the eclipse gave the heroes powers and now the eclipse can take them away as well.
The pictures of the eclipse have been threaded through all the episodes and seasons and now we finally start to understand the significance. The first eclipse gave the heroes their powers and now the second eclipse has taken them away. We now get a glimpse of the Hatian's brother, who Peter, Nathan, and the Hatian are now trying to stop. As the heroes begin to lose their powers, I found Daphne's situation the most revealing; in fact it was a bit of a surprise to learn her condition before she gained her powers.
A lot happens in this episode, and all the heroes becoming normal people again is an interesting plot twist. I believe this show had a major lull in season two, but I think it's making a comeback with episodes like this.
This is by far my favorite series on TV, I have heard rumors they may cancel it because it costs 4 million and beyond per episode to produce. I really hope this show goes on for at least a few more seasons, in my opinion it is the best show on TV.
No wonder this episode is split into two episodes because not a lot happened but there was room for potential to end this tiny story-arc. The ending felt too much like someone would either interrupt Noah or the heroes would get their powers' back! Overall it was entertaining viewing especially this part: Matt: Why don't you just let me inside? (tries to use his abilities)
Mr. Millbrook: Are you threatening me?
Matt: Uh, I said... let me in. (tries again to use his abilities)
Mr. Millbrook: Why are you turning your head sideways? What's your problem, son? LMAO so funny
But is it was also interesting to know "The Speedster" is not so fast without her powers! If you know what I mean...and there's never a dull moment with 10-year old Hiro and the squabbling Petrelli brothers! Look out for the Haitains, boys!
I was really looking forward to this episode in order to get me hooked back into the series, but unfortunately I was let down. Now before the backlash starts remember this is just my personal humble opinion. I understand both sides of the fans - those whom think the show is going at a perfect pace, and those who think that the characters powers are developed too far.
I can honestly say i'm on neither of these sides, I think I was initially interested in the show because it was new and fresh on season 1, and really left you wondering what's going on or where are they taking me. It was more of a build up with an ultimate goal that needed to be achieved.
However, with this season there has been too much of the same thing for my personal taste of flashbacks, plot twists, cliffhangers, and so on. I do enjoy these but it's gotten to be a bit too much, for example the Elle / Skylar spin - first they are acting as the good guys for us to really get behind and then in the span of one sentence "bam" they are evil. Nothing really provoked them to turn, nothing really motivated them to say hey wait I hate everything i've been doing up till now. What's really gotten to me is how the heroes themselves are always outclassed, not by their powers but how they always seem to be soft and unwilling to step up to anything. Daphne's character for me comes to mind for this, she was a powerful nemesis but once she turns to the "good" side, the writers seem to just have her running and needing reassurance for every single thing she does. It's almost as if every hero we have is typecast into always wanting to hide so nothing can hurt them.
The only Hero i can find myself standing behind is the one without any powers what-so-ever - Ando. His character no matter what he seems to be up against is always right there ready to fight the good fight. Even in this episode he stepped up his game to get the Heroes off their coddled butts and DO something.
I'll probably stick thru to the end of the season and see if we as an audience are rewarded with some kind of epic battle, or answers. But realistically i'm not holding my breathe, I honestly feel that they will have another weak final battle as per in season 1 (sylars confrontation). If so then my question of should I keep the season pass on my DVR will be answered with a stern REMOVAL.
This was a pretty good episode. It had a lot of strengths though I felt it lacked a bit of punch given the build up. I expect more action in the next installment. That being said they are really spending a lot of time with the Gabriel/Sylar development. Who is going to win. I'm still not sure what Elle's game is. Peter and Daphne are great. Mohinder's plot is still way out in left field, I hope he does not start turning back into the fly . . . I liked that Peter stood up to Nathan, who really doesn't have a backbone. I keep waiting for one to develop, but no luck. Anyway, I'm excite to see where this all goes. Also, if the eclipse takes away power and apparently some of the effects of powers (Mohinder not being all scaly) then why is Hiro still 10?
Heroes still seems to divide people between whether they love it or hate it and this episode seems to have split people's opinions just as much. It may be accused of being where nothing happens but actually there was quite a lot of build up, presumable to be resolved in part 2. I know the eclipse thing doesn't follow the rules of physics but in many ways that's not the point of the episode. It was interesting to see who could carry on without their powers and who fell apart. Mohinder appears to be back on track with his character, I was glad to see. It should be interesting to see what happens in part 2.
The eclipse has begun and our Heroes find themselves without their abilities. Elle and Sylar go after Claire who is protected by Noah. Hiro, Ando and Matt go after Daphne to find what Arthur has against her. And Peter and Nathan try to recruit the Haitian
The first part of the eclipse is action packed indeed. Ever since the show begun I always wanted to see an episode where our characters wouldn't have their abilties. And the way they did it was awesome.
After the events of the previous chapter where we found out about the existence of the catalyst (and we know it's Claire) Angela's side is trying to protect Claire while Arthur's side is trying to capture her. Claire is given under the protection of Noah. He decides to train Claire (since she has been wanting it since the first chapter of this volume). While training, Claire lets it slip that she was missing her father everytime she was gone, something which makes Noah think that he may not have known everything about his daughter's feelings. Elle and Sylar arrive at the same place, following the instructions of Arthur, to capture Claire. In the ensuing fight, everyone realizes they don't have their abilities (as the eclipse has started). Noah breaks Sylar's arm, Elle is knocked out and Claire, trying to protect Noah, is shot by Elle but doesn't heal. Taken back to their house, Noah attends Claire urging his wife not to call the hospital in case her ability manifests. When the bullet is removed and her temperature is normal, Noah leaves and goes after Elle and Sylar while Claire's wound gets worse in front of Sandra's eyes. Sylar and Elle get closer together but an angry Noah aims at them from the opposite terrance.
Elsewhere, Mohinder discovers he is nowhere near finding a cure for his power but when he looks at some of Arthur's sketches he realizes that there may be an answer in the eclipse. When the eclipse is total, Mohinder is reborn inside a cocoon and wakes up without any scales and completely normal. At that point he thinks he can finally come closer with Maya but Arthur stops him, with Flint's help, saying that Mohinder should work on the formula now more than ever.
Peter is with Nathan in Haiti trying to recruit the Haitian for the fight against Pinehearst. While there, Nathan's powers are gone. The two brother get into a fight when the biggest truths about each other surface at a time when their powers are gone. Peter claims that Nathan has always been Arthur's puppet and hasn't followed his dreams while Nathan reveals to Peter that he always needed someone to save him (reminding him of two times he saved him in volume 1) and that he was always weak. At that moment the Haitian appears and reveals he is after his brother Samedi (who has a power of his own - impenetrable skin) as he is a Level 5 escapee. He reveals he didn't know Arthur was alive and Peter urges Nathan to help the Haitian with his mission so he can come with them. Before he has time to argue with Peter, they are being shot and so they run. Peter and the Haitian manage to escape while Nathan is captured by Samedi who reveals to him he has known from Arthur that Nathan would come after him and he has been waiting.
Tracy calls Arthur who tells her that Nathan may be expendable and Tracy reminds him of their deal; to help him get Nathan on their side so Nathan would one day become President of the USA. Tracy is ordered by Arthur to go to Parris Island and create an army for the war that is coming.
Finally, Hiro still thinks he is a 10 year old boy and arrives at Matt's house. Realizing both Matt and Daphne that Hiro in fact has the memory of a 10 year old, Daphne runs away thinking that Matt doesn't trust her and that he wouldn't love her if he knew her secret. Hiro, Ando and Matt teleport to Lawrence, Kansas at Daphne's homeplace in order to find what Arthur has against her and she is so terrified. At that moment, Hiro's and Matt's powers are gone (as well as Daphne's) due to the eclipse and Matt realizes there is no easy way for him to get in as Daphne doesn't want him there neither does her father. Hiro convinces Matt not to give up his mission while he and Ando go to the nearest comic book store (Sam's comics) to find the next issue of 9th Wonders. There they meet Sam (Seth Green) and the comic book's co-owner Frack (Breckin Meyer) who are shocked to find out that the new comic book 9th Wonders has come to life. Meanwhile, when Daphne's father leaves, Matt seizes the opportunity to go inside Daphne's house where she reveals her secret; without her power she has braces at her legs in order for her to walk. Overall, it is a great episode that of course seems to be incomplete without its second part. All of the main characters are present in this one as we see our Heroes lives without their heroic powers. Matt and Hiro's chemistry is amazing as they are both funny actors. Kristen Bell (Elle) and Zachary Quinto (Sylar) also go great together. Finally I like the dynamic between Peter and Nathan as this was about to happen and I believe it did at the most perfect time. Key facts: Daphne's background story which is further expanded in the next chapter as well as in the graphic novels. Elle and Sylar come closer and closer together and they make a great couple indeed. Also the Haitian's background story is expanded (no we still don't know his real name). Tracy's story is important for the events after the eclipse and for the end of this volume. Enjoy!
The Eclipse(1) is a good episode but a little too far from the Heroes ordinary in which has made it so addictive and fun to watch. In the episode all of the heroes lose their powers in which really bothered me. I know down the line it will probably pay off but i dislike seeing the amazing people become ordinary people. I do think that the next episode will be amazing like the older episodes(Season one) because there is a lot at stake in it with claire going to the hospital. Heroes is an amazingly creative show but this episode was just a little bit too different.
The Eclipse takes place which affects all the Heroes and Villains. Arthur orders Sylar to capture Claire and Elle joins him. Matt, Hiro, and Ando follow Daphne to Kansas. Nathan and Peter look for the Haitian in Haiti.
After a couple of weeks of filler episodes, it was good to finally get an episode that shows why this series belongs on television. This episode left me wanting more, I'm watching it again tonight on G4. It was cleverly written to show how the beta humans have become accustomed to their powers. Sylar is a perfect example because he couldn't accept the fact that he is now human without his powers. It also allowed Noah to beat him senseless. Matt also couldn't get accustomed to not being able to read minds. Arthur was the most worried about not having his ability, he looked scared the whole time. So much for a strong man.
The Haitian took it as fate deciding to take away his powers. Mohinder was glad to be back to his normal self. Claire needed her power the most after taking a bullet to the shoulder. Peter needs to regain his powers again and soon. Daphne needs her powers because without them, then she can't walk. That was a nice twist to the character. Can't wait until next week.
This season seems to keep getting better every episode.Heroes must use their own survival skills and wait 'til the eclipse is over to regain their missed powers. Although I didn't like how it began Elle's and Sylar's storyline is growing on me as well as Daphne's.Hiro is silly and I am really dissapointed with him this season.Seth Green appears in the picture I hope he brings something to the show and help Hiro regain the strong presence he is missing since last season. Mohinder goes back to normal and try to contact Maya but is quickly stopped by Flint, science can't beat muscle. That's all for now waiting for the second part.
This episode, to me, feels like a transition episode. Not that that is a bad thing, because I can feel that the transition's going to be good, but it still seemed like a transition episode. It also offered a whole lot of character development, I thought. I thought that the Sylar/Elle storyline kept going on as exceptionally as it has been for the past few weeks. Elle and Sylar are my favorite characters, and seeing them paired up just makes me so happy. Peter is becoming more and more likeable the longer he is without his powers. Mohinder was much better this week than he has been, and I thought that his decision to go and find Maya was perhaps quite underplayed, but it also showed his weakness when Arthur came in, and the strength that Arthur has access to even without his powers.
I thought Nathan's righteous stubbornness was amazingly well played this week, and then Tracy, to me, is slowly becoming like a Jessica character, like the evil counterpart to Nathan. The reintroduction of the Haitian as well as the emotion that was finally injected into his character made me happy; and then, lastly, I'd just like to note that HRG's return as the big, bad, Dad was awesome and that Claire's character development throughout the entire episode was purely amazing. All in all, 9.5 out of 10. Exceptional.
So in this episode we see definite sides form as it seems a battle is about to take place. Warning spoilers below.
And who else could be at the center of this battle? Well, none other than Claire Bennet, the cheerleader. What I just don't get is why is it always centered around the cheerleader, I guess it all started with "Save the cheerleader save the world" but why her. Maybe because she can never die? But neither could Adam. But I guess by the time people knew about him, he was already bad. Either way, we find out that Claire is wanted by both sides, which doesn't seem to help her out. I have to say, this episode brings up one of the most annoying things about Claire, her constant bickering that she could be more, and not be a victim. For crying out loud girl, wake up, it's so childish and annoying. At least the writers could stop making her character repeat the same wish wash crappy lines she always pulls up. We finally find out the significance of a long going part of the show, the eclipse. I was pretty happy to finally understand why this eclipse has long been a part of the name of the show, I mean it is always their behind the title and a lot of the time shows up during the show. But now we know why. What I couldn't understand is why Elle is trying to turn Sylar bad again, I guess it was possible, but why make him a killer? I guess Elle has always been bad, ever since her father used her for the company, and now that she is free of him, she wants to cause pain. What's crazy about this episode is that everyone loses their powers, and what was the hardest thing to watch was Claire jumping in front of a bullet when she didn't know her powers were gone for the time being as well. I liked the end of the episode, it leaves us watching as Sylar is about to be sniped by Noah, which was a pretty intense place to leave a great episode. I really liked this episode, for once everyone had no powers, and it was cool to see the paintings of the future coming true.
Um. Don't eclipses last for like, seconds? Minutes? And er… how, exactly, can a total eclipse be seen in Kansas and Haiti at the same time? (Okay, I suppose you could argue that the time scales don't have to match up but come on…) Putting aside the scientific grumbles that will inevitably result from an episode like this, the first part of the big 'Eclipse' story is… well… a bit meh, really. 'It's Coming' promised something epic; 'The Eclipse' gives us a load of hot air. Great, so the heroes' abilities have disappeared. So, apparently, has the writers' ability to make them interesting. Elle and Sylar's 'dangerous' run around smacks of panic-induced padding on Coleite and Pokaski's part; needing to fill an extra five minutes with material that doesn't quicken the pace of the over-arching narrative. The Haitian's story comes entirely out of left field and falls entirely flat. The viewer is given nowhere near enough time to process the context of the situation: Nathan and Peter quite literally fall into the guy's fight with his brother (the ludicrously named Baron Samedi) while it's supposedly in full swing and yet we barely get to see any of it. Worse, Samedi doesn't even appear on screen and is merely referenced in off-the-cuff epithets about how much of a 'bad guy' he is. This is no way to 'sell' a threat, no way to build it into an exciting, suspenseful race against time to rescue the heroes from the villains. I found it difficult to give a jot about what the Haitian was up to, to be honest, and the Petrelli brothers' incessant pointless bickering only exacerbated matters. Ironically, it is Matt's virtual non-storyline that is the highlight of the episode, if only because it gets to showcase the delightful comic talents of Masi Oka and actually lends his relationship with Daphne, and her character, some much needed depth. Something of a wasted opportunity.
Well what with this episode being a two-parter, I have to say I expected more from it. However a few times in this episode I felt my concentration drifting and could sense the story beginning to lag. But before we focus on the negatives, lets look at the positives.
On the whole this was a fairly decent episode of Heroes. As the eclipse looms all over the world the heroes and villains realise that they have lost their powers and must resort to their more primitive instincts when it comes to fighting. None have to face this trial more so than Claire who comes up against Sylar and Elle when they to kidnap her for Arthur Petrelli. It was rather a funny moment when Sylar and Elle could not use their powers for the first time but this scene was made all the more shocking when Claire was shot and you realised that for the first time since the show started, she could actually die. We'll have to wait until next week to find out if she will regenerate but one thing is for sure, Claire will be more a major part in the show as this volume progresses. The funniest moments of the episode are between Matt, Hiro and Ando. They have followed Daphne back to her home town after she took off and learn that she lived on a corn farm in Kansas. However unable to use their powers, Matt cannot read her mind to discover what is going on with her and Hiro cannot teleport them out of there (great cameo by Seth Green and Breckan Myer by the way). We soon discover that Daphne seems to have some sort of disability that returned once her power was taken away. It seems that speed was the only thing that gave her half way human mobility and it seems that this is why she was so frightened of Arthur Petrelli. She didn't want to go back to a life of being crippled, which is the first time we get to see her human side since we met her. Meanwhile Peter and Nathan also have a fellow hero to pick up in the form of the Hatian. The both of them are still arguing and it seems that Peter is resentful for how much Nathan resembles their father, Arthur and how much of Nathan's life has been constructed for him. Nathan refuses to accept any more of Peter's whining but before they can continue their fight they are confronted by the Hatian and his psychotic adversary. As Nathan is kidnapped, Peter and the Hatian try to form a plan to get it back but wether these brothers will ever be able to let bygones be bygones still remains to be seen. Angela does seem to be getting suspicious of Tracy's intentions, but Nathan could yet side with her and Arthur and take his place in the White House. Whatever the case it seems that Nathan will not be amongst the fugitives by the time Volume four starts in a few weeks. Now onto the more negetive aspects of the episode. For one no matter how far past the time of 9 it is, I do not like to see Sendhil Ramahtury being pushed out of a caccoon, thats just not cool and has left me with enough horrible thoughts and images to be going on with. There was also the small matter of the fight scene between Bennett, Claire, Elle and Sylar. I know that Heroes cannot kill all of it's main characters in one fell swoop but I'm getting a little tired of all of these fight scenes that don't come to anything. The only person who seems to be injured in them are people who are then regenerated a few seconds afterwards and the most vulnerable of characters are let off lightly. It is getting less and less realistic for these people to carry on living and I think it's about time for Heroes to kill off a main character instead of taking out it's anger on the guest stars. It may be sad and morbid but it's expected in a show like this. For the love of all that is holy, Niki Sanders died and the creators responded by giving her a twin. Next Sylar will discover all of the secrets of the company and then get amnesia in a car accident. The writers certainly need to step it up a notch.
Finally I will end on the note that, after all, this episode is still a two-parter so the writers techncally have another hour to redeem themselves if they so choose. Give us some more interesting dialogue, some realistic fight scenes and some genuine tension and storyline and I will go into volume four a happy man.
Setting the stage for the next episode with the final part of the eclipse.
The last few episodes, they've returned to the old format, Mohinder doing the voice-over. Everyone's looking at the sky, just like the first time.
Arthur orders Sylar to go after Claire and Elle volunteers to be his partner. "Let's go get the cheerleader." Déjà vu. Arthur draws a disturbing image – Claire dead in Bennet's arms. Somehow the eclipse will take away Claire's power!
Angela has a grand plan and has all her pieces in play and of course, expects Claire to stay put, out of harm's way. Nathan's part is to get the Haitian and little brother wants to tag along. Without Peter's powers, he feels useless but still feels that drive that makes him the hero every time. And when has Nathan EVER been able to say no to his little brother? There is nothing I love more about Heroes than Nathan and Peter together!
Nathan and Peter actually get into a historic first: a fight! Nathan points out how he has been rescuing Peter his whole life, and Peter retaliates, Nathan is a puppet, every decision he's made has been Nathan living his father's life and dreams. In the future, Nathan will chose Arthur over Peter. Amazing how Nathan reverts to the old selfish Nathan when you take away the power that makes his life easier and important. "Can the universe get me a phone?!"
Finally Bennet offers to train Claire, about time! She taps into her anger and with training, she'd be very impressive. Sylar and Elle show up and everyone realizes the powers are gone so they do it the old fashioned way, leading to Claire being shot. It's not like Elle and Sylar can't figure out where they went – they went home! Bennet leaves and apparently her 'you always leave me' rant didn't sink in.
Hiro can be hilarious but this is one of the funniest – he starts throwing corn at Matt's head! Very sweet message – if you can't win the girl without your powers, you don't deserve her. Daphne's big secret isn't half as bad as she makes out, without her powers she can't walk. Is her self esteem that bad that she thinks Matt will care? Matt's got a huge, loving heart!
The Haitian has a brother whose skin is impenetrable. He's the local warlord and buddy of Arthur's, with orders to capture Nathan.
For intelligent people, barely any of them figure out that the eclipse is causing the loss of powers. It does bring some sanity, Elle and Sylar get off their power trip and finally kiss. Problem is, they're in the scope of Bennet's sniper rifle…
Though the loss of powers is a game-changer, this episode just sets the stage for part 2 and is not important in and of itself.
The Eclipse comes and takes away everyone's powers, Peter and Nathan travel to Haiti to find the Haitian to help stop Arthur, Sylar and Elle team up to capture Claire, Matt travels to Kansas with Hiro and Ando to find out what's wrong with Daphne.
I LOVE this episode, it was exactly what I needed to satisfy my Heroes craving, I thought everything was perfect ('cept the whole Elle shooting Claire part, not cool) but other than that I loved it. Sylar and Elle kissing sent goosebumps down my arm, seeing Daphne in those crutches broke my heart a little but it made me like her character even more, and Hiro's still his adorable self (Even if he is mentally 10 years old). I'm hoping something dramatic happenes next, but I hope Claire lives! I'm on the edge, I can't watch for the season finale!
Now this episode was awesome. I loved it so much.. Everything was so unexpected.. Everybody lost their powers and I sure hope they will get them back. At least the good guys. Arthur kept on getting stronger and stronger with every minute and now he is as powerless as an ordinary old man. Hiro thinks he is ten years old and Daphne can't walk normally. Syler showed his 'human' side. Claire can't heal and even after she got her first aid done, she started bleeding again.. Can't wait for the next episode. Who knows, what is going to happening. Stay tuned, cause I think it's just going to get better and better.
At this point, the backlash against "Heroes" has generated a backlash of its own. There's no doubt that some of the criticism is due to a bandwagon effect. Too many people in the world (and on the internet) love to kick a man when he's down, and Tim Kring has fallen right on his face with his recent comments and his decision to scapegoat his previous showrunners.
Unfortunately, it's not all about tearing down a good thing. There are legitimate criticisms that are being dismissed amidst the noise. Apologists tend to ignore those criticisms anyway, citing the notion that some critics and disaffected fans just don't pay attention, but that glosses over the many continuity errors that have cropped up this season.
This particular episode is just the beginning of whatever process is underway with the universal loss of abilities, so it's hard to comment on what has yet to play out completely. A couple of things immediately come to mind. It's a comic book staple to have some event wipe out powers across the board, at least for a little while, and it always manages to knock over the anthills a bit. The question is how long it will last, and how it will change the approaching war.
One big question does come up, however: why is the eclipse suddenly so important? The first season started with the hint that the eclipse had some greater meaning, but previous continuity has established that the various abilities came about long before the eclipse in the pilot. For that matter, Hiro appeared in Japan during an eclipse, and it had no discernable effect on his powers at the time.
This episode, however, states that the abilities emerged when the previous eclipse took place, and ties that to the apparent significance of the current crisis. Perhaps worse, the writers use that as plot justification in and of itself. They simply borrow the importance of the previous eclipse, even though its own significance is tenuous at best!
I'm also a bit annoyed with the characterization of Sylar in this episode. While Elle does seem like the type to focus on self-interest, Sylar's character arc went from relatively straightforward to all over the map. Is Sylar being set up as the ultimate wild card? Or is he just shifting his desire for approval from Angela to Arthur to Elle? I've been frustrated with Sylar all season, and this episode is no exception.
If "9th Wonder" was the comic book written and drawn by Isaac in the first season, and Isaac is dead, who is generating new issues of the comic book now? That would seem to be a fairly obvious continuity error. It also doesn't help that the writers took a page from "Lost" and pulled a John Locke with Daphne. So her ability allows her to overcome her disability. It's an interesting twist for the character, but sadly, it felt derivative.
All that said, I did end up enjoying the majority of the episode. I loved the interplay between Noah and Claire, especially her decision to save his life. She may have thought that her ability would make it a low risk proposition, but it's the thought that counts. I liked seeing the Petrelli brothers have it out for a while, though I think that they still need a good brawl to get over themselves.
A lot can be forgiven if the rest of this volume's arc can deliver on its promises. The first season ended with a whimper, and the second season was only marginally better. It would be a very good sign if the third volume could round out the end of 2008 on a high note.
AHAHA! YES! YES! I cannot WAIT for next week!!!! DIE CLAIRE DIEE~
God, I'm in such a good mood. Why? Let's see... Sylar and Elle kissed, Claire got shot (oh, happy days…), Suresh isn't being stupid anymore, I swear to God there was eclipse foreshadowing with everyone's favorite Japanese sidekick and oh, wait, I must think… oh yes. Breckin Meyer and Seth Green. The cute little comic book shop keepers. Perhaps that is why I'm so ecstatic. Yes. I believe that's why. –giggles manically- It's gotta be because of Green and Meyer finally being added to the cast that I've really got nothing bad to say about this episode. The thing about Daphne: Holy crap. Wasn't expecting that at all. And fyi, the next time my friend's in a moral dilemma I'm totally throwing corn at him. It seems to work. And Hiro bobbing his head with the turtle? Oh good God, I nearly died. I couldn't help it; Nathan and Peter were trying just so hard to be mad at each other that I started voicing over what they were saying, particularly when the Haitian showed up. Ahaa… Something about how super-totally-awesome Big Brother Haitian was and Nathan using his shirt as a surrender flag. Wait, what? I must be high… ON GOOD-QUALITY EPISODE!
For those of you who've read my past reviews, you're probably thinking, "Who are you, and how did you highjack ginaneko's account?" Anyways, I laughed when Flint smacked Suresh into the glass window. Mua ha ha. It was funny. I've always liked Flint… Oh, and sticky, slimy, naked Suresh? Um, ew. No please. Sweaty, shirtless, not talking Suresh I can deal with, again, as long as his mouth is shut. Naked and slimy draws the line. And it's not a fine line.
My line of the week directed at Claire that my mom laughed at (I talk to the TV on occasion…): "Well, of course it hurts you dumbass. You got shot. What the hell is wrong with you? Even someone who could heal would know being SHOT hurts! Just… stop talking. Stop it. I hate it when your lips move and words come out."
Unfortunately, because they spent the entire preview on Claire-bear (dieeeee), I have nothing to say other than "MUA HA HA! YAY!" Til next week, folks. –crosses fingers and chants the words 'red-freaking-lightning' over and over-
Heroes without powers are fun! Except not really! Nathan and Peter become the Bickersons, Elle and Sylar team up, but not sexually, so that's no fun. But one glorious bullet makes up for a lot of things.
After reuniting Sylar and Elle, Arthur (guest star Robert Forster) orders them to find Claire and bring her to him. They're all flirty with each other, and then Elle manipulates Sylar into killing someone (confused? Does Elle want Sylar to be good or evil?). Anyhoo, they go to vortex guy's house, where HRG and Claire are to get Claire, their powers go out, but HRG still has a gun. A scuffle ensues, Elle gets the gun, tries to shoot HRG, Clair gets shot (woot), HRG flees with Claire back to their home. He leaves her to seek out Elle and Sylar for revenge.
Matt, Hiro and Ando team up together and follow Daphne (guest star Brea Grant) to her hometown of Lawrence, Kansas to discover what she's been hiding, which is that without her powers she can't walk. Hiro and Ando go to a comic book shop owned by Seth Green and Breckin Myers.
Meanwhile, Nathan and Peter Petrelli travel together to Haiti in search of the only man that can stop their father from destroying the world, the Haitian. The Haitian is however busy trying to stop his evil brother Samedi (who has impenetrable skin)
Of course the eclipse removes all of their powers, leaving the heroes to deal with all their emotional baggage. Mohinder likes not having his powers, tries to go find Maya, but Arthur has Meredith's brother put a stop to that. Papa Petrelli and Tracy continue to plot and plan, and draw ominous futures, while Mama Petrelli catches wind of some of these plans. Random Thoughts:
- Parkman and Daphne's romance continues to defy logic.
- "I hate heroes"– Sylar (Maybe I should follow his lead)
- Claire getting shot! It's like the writers are trying to bribe me with small snippets of goodness.
- The Mohinder scenes were just plain awful.
- Why won't the writers decide whether Sylar and Elle are good or evil.
Bottom line: Other than Claire getting shot and the Haitian, nothing really interested me in this episode.
Daphne had a crisis of faith and headed back home to her Kansas farmhouse, and Matt, Ando and Hiro spend most of the ep hiding in a corn field. Then she pouts in her room till we find out that without her powers she can barely walk. Tracy plots to, I don't know, do something evil? Something about contacts and getting Nathan into the White House. Sylar tries to earn brownie points with Arthur by going to grab Claire; who has some bonding time with her father. Noah tries to make her untouchable... Like that's ever gonna happen. Mohinder gets even more scaly and when he loses his powers, Peter and Nathan and goes in search of the Haitian.
A solar eclipse takes away all the heroes' powers. Arthur sends Sylar and Elle to find Claire; Nathan and Peter go to Haiti in search of the Haitian who is looking for a level 5 escapee; Matt, Hiro and Ando go to Kansas in search of Daphne.
It is ironic that the episode where the heroes lose their powers is one of the best of the season and the series as a whole. This episode gets back to what makes Heroes great - characters and their relationships. There is some action and a few doses of comedy, but this episode is strongly character driven. Ordinary people dealing with life issues. We get wonderful moments between the Petrelli brothers; Claire and Noah; Matt and Daphne; and Sylar and Elle.
And the plot development is clear, succinct and intelligent. It was nice to have a change of scenery with the storyline in Haiti, and any international location helps the show feel more global. Let's hope they keep up the good work for The Eclipse Part Two and the remaining two episodes in the volume.
This episode was awesome. My personal favorite was that they had a good amount of everyone in the episode. Peter,sylar,and hiro (my 3 favorites) all had good screen time. And They actually brought Noah Bennett back this time to kick some ass and he did just that. Sylar without his powers got his ass kicked by noah. And elle got a nice swipe across the face. It was cool to see how everyone became normal again.. i was wondering if mohinder would also return. It will be interesting to see how peter and the haitin.. (2 of the more powerful abilities) try to save nathan and stop his brother. Im personally looking forward to seeing what will become of hiro,ando and seth greens character. If people were dissapointed with heroes earlier this season this episode should change that. I think they are getting better and better! The only thing that sucks is in a couple more episodes we have to take that mid-season break which we all hate waiting for :(
The end game for volume 3 starts with a bang as the heroes realize that, just like the moon to the tide, their powers are bound to the same phenomenon that manifested them. At the exact same time that Peter & Nathan can no longer fly, Claire can no longer heal and Mohinder seeks shelter in a cocoon he made for himself, Elle & Sylar discover how much they really do know one another as Matt and Daphne discover exactly how much they really don't once her power is revealed to be the one thing that helped her walk and his espirit walk completely irrelevant as to why he fell in love with her.
Of course the bad guy's powers are also as useless as theirs are, Hiro still believes he's a 10 year old and Noah is about to shoot Elle & Sylar but Claire is bleeding to death and neither Peter or Nathan are able to help for as powerful as they might have been this global event just remind them how small they truly are.
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