Season 3 Episode 8


Aired Monday 9:00 PM Nov 10, 2008 on NBC
out of 10
User Rating
771 votes

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Episode Summary

Hiro attempts to delve into Arthur Petrelli's past to uncover the mystery behind him creating a rival company Pinehearst and his hatred towards Angela. Sylar stricken by guilt tries to stop his murderous ways with HRG and Elle vying for his blood. Meredith's training goes up in smoke with the arrival of her brother.moreless

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  • Nice Home Alone Impression.

    To prepare for an eventual showdown with his foes, Hiro investigates defining moments in the pasts of Arthur Petrelli, Sylar, and Flint.

    Ok what the hell is going on with Heroes, it started off promising but the last months episodes have been so confusing and whats a good word for sloppy writing, I'll just say sloppy writing.

    To many Heroes to many Heroes its like brain overload of heroes. Kill some of them thats what I say. Kill Elle, Kill Flint, Kill Meredith, Kill all the useless Heroes that no one cares about and kill all the Heroes that hav past there prime in storytelling.

    This episode was just another go back into the past episode. serously what the hell is all this about. every couple of episodes we go back and forth in time its getting confusing and repeatative. I dont like Arthur he is just lame wha t was the need of bringing him into the series. The Villians chapter is so far my leat favorite of the show. I expected so much but it hasnt delivered and the villians themselves are erm...not villians they still havent made it clear who is evil and who isnt and where half way through the chapter.

    Good things about the episode was Hiro's impression of Home Alone it was so stupid it was funny. Also seeing Tompson again was good but his hair was a joke. Poor epiosode I give it 6.0 out of 10.moreless
  • In this episode, we finally get to see what Hiro is seeing in his vision, only this time, it's not the future he is peering into.

    In this episode, we finally get to see what Hiro is seeing in his vision, only this time, it's not the future he is peering into. Warning, spoilers contained below.

    It was interesting to see that Meredith's brother is Flint, the dude with blue flames who escaped from level 5. What is more interesting is when we see Sylar trying to kill himself after his first murder and Elle comes in at the right time and saves him. What really surprised me was that Angela was the one who tried to kill her husband, because she was defending her son. So all along, even though Angela seems pretty twisted, maybe she was just trying to do some good. To me it seems all the Petrelli's are pretty much the same, they all try and take things into their own hands, and take drastic measures to do what they think is right. This episode only confirms this, showing how Angela handles what she found out about Arthur. What was exciting and shocking to see at the end of this episode, was Usutu having his head cut off (which I kind of support his death, because they never should have brought back a copy of Issac) but what's more shocking was that Arthur was the one who killed him. And right at the end Arthur grabs Hiro and is taking his power. I just hope Hiro gets away, because if Arthur can time travel as well, who knows if there is any stopping him. This was a great episode, despite it being mostly a flashback. Great way to tell the past without having Hiro actually go there and mess it up.moreless
  • Great episode and worth the watch for the Villains past :):)

    Once again went back in time. Not very far back in time; just about a year or so. In fact, the stories in Monday's episode paralleled events we've already witnessed, and even crossed over at times. That was an interesting and fun little twist. Through Hiro's vision, three storylines played themselves out, and they were all impressive. Sylar's back-story (and Elle's and Mr. Bennett's) was tinkered with yet again, and we were given more information on Claire's birthmother Meredith. We also learned more about Arthur Petrelli, his relationship with his family and how he ended up confined to a hospital bed. In "Villains," we learned that Bennett was trying to catch Sylar in the act of killing someone to steal their power. He pushed Elle into making this happen, even after she argued that Sylar might be saved. And then, when Sylar turned to the dark side, killed and went on the run, Bennett was completely nonchalant about it. Now fast-forward to what we know has happened since. The Sylar that this episode wants us to believe Bennett virtually created goes on a killing spree, making Claire his primary target. Did we ever see Bennett's guilt for creating this monster? Has he ever taken responsibility for putting his own daughter's life on the line? Our new knowledge of their history completely changes how we're supposed to see their present and it just doesn't work. Add to this Elle's involvement, and I'm completely at a loss. Sylar and Elle, in this flashback, appeared to have a fairly strong relationship. Yet, when the duo did battle earlier this year, there was no hint that they had a past which was a little dissapointing :( But otherwise it was nice to see them together, I think Kristin and Zak are good together. The episode also gave us a glimpse of Meredith's life before she reunited with Claire. She was a thief with her brother Flint and she was recruited by the Company to become an agent. But then Eric Roberts' Thompson let her go. Of all the stories, I thought learning more about Arthur Petrelli would be the most interesting. Instead, we really didn't get a lot of new information.The fact that Arthur ordered his son Nathan to be killed was a bit shocking! The rest of the story became fairly repetitive until Angela poisoned the old man's soup. This set up Arthur's apparent death and showed us how the rest of the family had no idea he was still alive.moreless
  • I completely agree with the reviewer who hates pre-episode ratings.

    People who hate the show after S1 (or just hate it!) continue to give the episodes really poor scores before they even start. Yes once an episode airs, the ratings then usually speak for themselves BUT with 22 votes so far on this episode, and a score of 7, how the fark has anyone seen it? NO ONE HAS! The episode score should be locked until the episode airs (not an hour before). Thus is the episode is really good, the score can be more accurate.

    I ask for TV.COM to hear us. We really enjoy Heroes. Whilst Volulme 2 and 3 haven't been up to Volume 1's I hold out hope that the new episodes will kick in.moreless
  • i am so sick of entertainment weekly bashing this show

    This episode is one of the best of the series. Its not as good as Company Man or Homecoming of course but its still extremely good. In villains you see an amazing amout of character development for Linderman, Angela Petrelli, Claires mom and for Mr. Petrelli. This has helped set the stage for an epic battle of good vs. evil in which it seems almost impossible to stop Mr. Petrelli as he has now stolen one of the strongest powers of all that being Hiros. Although i do strongly dislike the idea of both peter and hiro being powerless, it has set Sylar up to show the world that he truely is a good person that is willing to take on evil to save everyone else from a terrible fate. Heroes keeps getting bashed by the media especially Entertainment Weekly and it really does irritate me because i honestly think that heroes this season is back on track and almost as good as it was in season one but the first season is one the most the best and most well written seasons of any show ever so its kind of hard to beat it.moreless
Ron Perkins

Ron Perkins

Arthur's Doctor

Guest Star

Jeff Staron

Jeff Staron

Trevor Zeitlan

Guest Star

Franc Ross

Franc Ross

Danny Pine

Guest Star

Malcolm McDowell

Malcolm McDowell

Daniel Linderman

Recurring Role

Jimmy Jean-Louis

Jimmy Jean-Louis

The Haitian

Recurring Role

Ntare Mwine

Ntare Mwine


Recurring Role

Trivia, Notes, Quotes and Allusions


  • TRIVIA (2)

    • Aside from the title, there is another change of style in this episode: instead of being shown in a separate screen on a black background, the writing "To be continued..." is embedded in a scene, like the episode titles usually are.

    • Title: Villains
      This is the first episode in which the episode title replaces the show title. Instead of the word Heroes, we see Villains in red letters over the usual eclipse logo. Because of this we also do not see the episode number and title within the episode itself as we usually do.

  • QUOTES (4)

    • Meredith: You remember what daddy used to say? God gave you a big sister instead of a brain.

    • Mohinder: (voice-over) A child is born to innocence. A child is drawn towards good. Why then do so many among us go so horribly wrong? What makes some walk the path of darkness while others choose the light? Is it will? Is it destiny? Can we ever hope to understand the force that shapes the soul? To fight evil, one must know evil; one must journey back through time and find that fork in the road, where heroes turn one way and villains turn another.

    • (Arthur looks at his soup bowl and realizes that it was poisoned)
      Angela: I lied. It's not your mother's recipe.

    • Thompson: So, you never answered my question. Why do you hate The Company so much?
      Meredith: Because they killed my baby girl. It was 14 years ago. They caught up with me in this little village off the Panhandle. Stormed in at night, it turned into a fire-fight, place went up like kindling. My little girl, Claire, she was killed in the fire.
      Thompson: Claire... That's what they told you, she died in the fire.
      Meredith: What is that supposed to mean?
      Thompson: (pulls out a pocket knife and cuts the plastic band that is binding Meredith's wrists) Go... Go on before I change my mind.
      Meredith: What?
      Thompson: Think of it as a "get out of jail free card" for your little girl.

  • NOTES (1)

    • International Airdates:
      Australia: November 20, 2008 on Channel 7/Prime
      New Zealand: January 14, 2009 on TV3
      Latin America: January 16, 2009 on Universal Channel
      Belgium: April 2, 2009 on VT4
      Germany: October 21, 2009 on RTL II
      Finland: March 27, 2010 on Sub
      Czech Republic: July 23, 2010 on Prima COOL
      Slovakia: July 20, 2012 on Markiza