Hidden Palms

Season 1 Episode 5


Aired Wednesday 8:00 PM Jun 20, 2007 on The CW
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Episode Summary

Liza makes a shocking discovery when she breaks into Cliff's room to find evidence that Eddie was murdered. Meanwhile, Johnny reluctantly plays in a charity golf tournament with Bob; Greta's dad returns unexpectedly and starts wooing Tess.

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  • Very mysterious!

    Liza keeps searching for answers to support her theory that Cliff and Greta killed Eddie. Greta's father, Skip comes into town and causes some trouble for Greta and Tess. Johnny and Bob play in the charity golf tournament, but Johnny doesn't want to get close to Bob. Nikki is confused about her feelings for Cliff. Liza finds Greta's Halloween costume in Cliff's floorboards and it is bloody. Cliff shows up at Mrs. Nolan's house and they start kissing.

    This episode was great! Weird ending and different clues! I don't like Skip at all. I don't think Greta killed Eddie, but Cliff seems mysterious. This episode gets a 10 out of 10!moreless
  • Liza discovers something in Cliff's room and Johnny and Bob play gold.

    I think this was the best episode so far, both in terms of storyline and character development.

    The acting was quite good too but the suspense and surprising revelations in this episde were fantastic.

    Greta's father is a newcomer but as annoying a character as he is, he does cast some doubt on Greta's innocence. I loved how Tess threw the drink in his face, he really did deserve that.

    I hope Johnny and Bob get along better from now on, I do like Bob and think he's a good influence and a friendly figure in this show.

    Hmm what to say about NIkki and Cliff, it's a like a train wreck, you don't want to watch but you kinda have to...moreless
  • amazing episode

    Well first of all liza is getting a little creepy..but what she found in cliffs room was way creepier. So there mgith be a chance cliff or greta killed eddie

    i dont like greta dad at all. Greta and Johny were totally cute this episode and so was cliff and nikki.

    johnny has been pissing me off how he treats his stepdad
  • Is anyone else going nuts coz of this whole mystery??

    I really don't like Greta's father. He's a jerk. And what's that story about covering up Eddie's death? I really hope we'll get closure on this soon, it's freaking me out not to know what's happened and why on earth Eddie might have been killed.

    Cliff is sooo creepy. Honestly, I have already totally forgotten about the sweet and sensitive character (Zach) that Michael Cassidy was playing on The OC. Even though I absolutely dislike Cliff, I kinda like the way Michael is portraying him. It's really authentic. Totally jerk, completely psychopath, but somehow still soooo hot. Just think of that scene with Nikki. Wow!moreless
  • That's what it should have been like from the very beginning!

    A very good episode, I wish they all were like this.

    We get to know more and more about the mystery of Palm Springs. Cliff's mom is a hard woman, I knew she'd spill the drink on that jerk.

    It is intriguing that a person like Greta's father is such a womanizer but on the other hand he turns out to have some connections high enough to help cover Eddie's death.

    Right now I really don't know how Eddie died and I want to find out asap!

    And hahaha, Cliff's idea to explain to Liza that he DID NOT kill Eddie was brilliant.moreless
Kyle Secor

Kyle Secor

Skip Matthews

Recurring Role

Valerie Cruz

Valerie Cruz

Maria Nolan

Recurring Role

Trivia, Notes, Quotes and Allusions


  • TRIVIA (3)

    • Liza finds Greta's Halloween dress in Cliff's room, and it's covered with blood.

    • Goof: At the end of this episode, Johnny is seen looking at photographs of Greta on his computer, the ones she took of herself with his camera. However in the third episode, Party Hardy, we see Johnny permanently deleting all the photographs from his computer.

    • Greta's dad goes to her house, and we get to see where Greta lives for the first time.

  • QUOTES (25)

    • Liza: Then how do you explain this? (She pulls down a tarp to reveal a bloody dress) Greta's bloody Halloween costume. I found it under a floorboard in Cliff's closet. Greta's bloody dress in Cliff's closet. You still think they had nothing to do with it?

    • Skip: Do you even remember that night?
      Greta: Of course I do.
      Skip: You came rushing back from Eddie's house all confused and traumatized -
      Greta: Stop.
      Skip: And telling me that your friend was dead. And you were a mess. And I did more than act just fatherly, baby girl. I made it all go away.

    • Cliff: (to Liza) You wanna know who killed Eddie. You really wanna know. I did. I made sure his parents were at the party and then I went over to his house and with his dad's own gun BAM! I blew his brain's out. After he hit the floor, smoke rose from the hole in his head, actual smoke. And the blood, it's amazing, how slow the blood oozes out, like lava, making a pool on the floor around his head. Well, that's the way I would've done it, if I had.

    • Bob: We don't have to play golf anymore Johnny. I got your message. Now you need to get mine. I have a place in your life, whether you like it or not. And I'm not going anywhere.

    • Nikki: (To Cliff) I'm attracted to the bad boys and scared of the good ones. And you are both. You scare me. You confuse me and excite me. Kinda doing a number on my head, actually.

    • Johnny: I'm good at puzzles.
      Cliff: So was Eddie and look at what happened to him.
      Johnny: What exactly did happen to him?
      Cliff: Hello? Where have you been? He offed himself, remember?
      Johnny: Are you sure? Cause I heard he was murdered.

    • (After Johnny hits the ball into the golf cart)
      Bob: Here, uh, try a mulligan. (Throws him a ball) It's a do-over. You get one per round.

    • (On the golf course)
      Johnny: Johnny Miller.
      Skip: Oh, kid's got a name. Hey, you any good Johnny?
      Johnny: Played twice.
      Skip: Well, it's gonna be a long day. (Laughs) I'm just kiddin'. You-You have fun. No one's judgin' you here. Oh, and remember - I've seen you naked.

    • (To Tess)
      Skip: See, you pretend to be disgusted with me, but in reality, you're only mildly nauseated? Am I right?

    • (About her father)
      Greta: To make a long story short, when my mom got sick, he couldn't deal and he bailed.

    • (With Karen)
      Skip: Well, you've just got insanely green eyes. Anyone ever tell you that?
      (Bob walks up)
      Bob: As a matter of fact, I tell her that every night.

    • Liza: Tennyson? Uh, Eddie hated Tennyson. He thought his work was overwritten and pessimistic.
      Johnny: Are you kidding me? You know what Eddie thought of Tennyson?
      Liza: And Brontë and Hardy and most of the Victorian age writers. Yeah, I know he wasn't a fan. And I know that he particularly thought Tennyson was trite.

    • Karen: Show him your cool side.
      Bob: I have a cool side?
      Karen: You have a hot side. So you must have a cool side.

    • Greta: You coulda called. Advance warnings always nice.
      Skip: And miss catching my daughter rolling around in the buff? Who's the natural blonde? Your boyfriend?
      Greta: Some stranger I picked up off the street. Didn't catch a name.

    • (Johnny stops their love scene)
      Johnny: Wait, wait. We're moving too fast.
      Greta: Maybe we should slow it down.
      Johnny: Maybe we should.
      (They continue)

    • (Cliff catches Liza at his stuff)
      Cliff: Are those mine?
      Liza: Yeah, I think they fell out of your pants.

    • (To Nikki)
      Cliff: If you're uninterested, let me know. I'll need adequate time to alert my ego.

    • (Nikki and Cliff were kissing)
      Nikki: Okay, we're causing a scene.
      Cliff: Oh yeah. Very inappropriate. We can take it back to my place where it's more private.
      Nikki: I have a curfew.
      (Cliff looks at the sky)
      Cliff: It isn't even lunch yet!

    • Johnny: You know that picture from Halloween? Wasn't that the night...
      Greta: The night that Eddie died? Yes. It's okay. You don't have to get all sheepish. No more secrets.

    • (About Nikki's living conditions)
      Cliff:: So many rules. They should be fun to break.

    • (Johnny leaves the room)
      Karen: How much of that did you hear?
      Bob: (Chuckles) Enough.

    • (About Bob)
      Johnny: I don't hate the guy. I've accepted him, as your husband, not my father.

    • Karen: Do you know how ungrateful you sound right now? The man spent 1500 dollars for the two of you to play.
      Johnny: 1500 dollars?
      Karen: Each.
      Johnny: What a waste. He should've given it to charity.
      Karen: It goes to charity.

    • Johnny: Some things you can't explain. You know, sometimes there's no one to blame. Sometimes things are just inexplicable, life-changing and awful.

    • Liza: Cliff is crazy. There's no telling what that guy is capable of doing.

  • NOTES (3)

    • International Airdates:
      - Denmark: June 28, 2008 on TV3

    • This is the first episode to feature recurring character, Skip Matthews (Kyle Secor).

    • Featured Music:
      "Out Loud" by Mindy Smith
      House tour with Johnny & Greta.
      "A Place In Displacement" by South
      Nikki & Cliff at the Pool
      "There's a Class for This" by Cute is What We Aim For
      Nikki & Cliff sex scene.
      "Elevate Myself" by Grandaddy
      Johnny arrives at the golf course.
      "Story of My Life" by Smash Mouth
      Golf Game
      "Don't Go Tellin' the Whole World" by Gus Black
      Bob and Karen come home.
      "Shallow" by South
      Johnny seeks out Liza at the Pool (Skip hits on Karen)
      "Your Love Is Mine" by The New Mastersounds
      Cliff gets Nikki a gift