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It was December 16th, a day after the season finale of Homeland had aired. I was a bit confused. The series had closed most of the story lines that were important. Brody is dead, Carrie is off to Istanbul after a promotion, Saul is off to a new career to a private agency, The CIA is going in a new direction with a new director. The only other character I care about Quinn, will probably follow Carrie to Istanbul. It felt more like a series finale then a season finale and maybe it even should have been a series finale as the power was in the tension/suspense between Carrie and Brody and that interaction con no more be.

In my confusion I asked you in my post ‘Homeland Season 3 Finale: A Season or Series Finale?’ whether you, the other members, thought it was a season finale or should have been a series finale. I waited to vote until today, to make sure I only voted once and to be able to see the results. I was surprised to see that almost 700 people (until this day, the 26th) had voted and their opinion was very clear::



So, 500 out of 700 of you thought or had wanted it to be a series finale. That’s not good news for Showtime. I saw that votes are still coming in, so members are still involved. That is better news for them.

I also asked you what season 4 should be about if you wanted a season 4 to exist. The answer wasn't even that surprising:



Quinn obviously has become the most interesting character in the series (he also got the most positive remarks in the comments) and that’s not good a good message for our former favourite Claire Danes (out of the surviving characters). But, if she keeps up this pace, she may have another chance for a Blowie next year. Although she turned up at the ceremony, she didn't win this year. People even rather see Homeland as a comedy then a new season with an espionage drama for Carrie.

In the comments, we got some great suggestions for season 4. Of course there were some with the premise that Brody hadn't died. Although I understand it, I do hope this is not what happened. Let me summarise some others for you.

@billeddy had a complete season 4 script, read it in the post, it is worth it. For me the fact that Carrie’s assets are often killed in drone strikes because of the information on them she passes on to the CIA was my highlight. She suspects that the CIA is using her information to create a backup of easy targets. Great battle coming!

@Mrtmcfly suggested to make it into a prequel. They could show Brody’s events leading to his kidnapping before he had converted to Islam. He mentioned that it also would have the advantage of bringing back Morena Baccarin Now that’s a reason I can relate to.

@geekmalaya had a great suggestion how to keep Brody around (although saying it was just kidding) : “Any chance that Carrie goes schizo and have Brody as his imaginary sidekick?”.

@AlienCat suggested a story around Carrie in Istanbul. Her kid is being taken care of by nannies. She uses Saul and his private sector agency for ad hoc jobs, sometimes unofficially and under the radar, when the CIA doesn't go along with her plans. Quinn, of course, is her right hand man in Istanbul, possibly even developing into a love interest. Her kid provides him with a vicarious way of making up for not being there for his own kid.

The most probable developments for the next season were written by @blaboing: Although the main characters are on their own at first, it becomes more and more clear that all of the separated story lines have something in common and are all going in the same direction, just to culminate in a multiple episodes lasting series finale with the evil guy being Javadi or Lockhart (or Adar being exposed as Javadi's accomplice).

I will probably watch the first episode of next season, just to see where everyone is going. I'm pretty sure that we'll not get that much information as Homeland never gives us any relevant information to start with.

What do you think?
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It should have ended with the season 1 finale, or made season two much more focused on the fall out of season 1, and ended at the end of 2.

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it's a wicked show! very interesting very close to reality makes you think about how the world actually works, I think academics would agree! can't wait to see more of it! cheers!
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For me it was the series finale, because I won't watch any new episode they release. But because I didn't like this finale and that made like me less the season 3's plot that came before it, my true series finale is now season 2's finale. That's where Brody's story ended, since the writers didn't know what to do with him after that, and he was one of the two lead characters in the show, even if the show's writers didn't seem to know it.
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Seems like Saul's words to Givanti were for the two of them to work together to improve life in Iran (terrorist countries) and US relationships. Last episode commented on improvements already shown after 3 months. It would be a great model for Homeland series to purse this more positive interaction of our different cultures in the hopes that it influences a peaceful co-existence. Include Carrie's and Quinn's roles in Istanbul to unite these caring people into a family....Quit using such profanity in every sentence and focus on positive relationship building . When are we going to realize that violence in movies promote violence in many folks that are watching.
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It would be an interesting direction to go and one I do prefer in real life. The question for television is how they could keep the tension going for a whole season.
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Yes, indeed. Sure stories are based on drama but too much drama is depressing and that's what happened to Homeland.
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Regarding the first poll, if you choose the "series finale" option, that doesn't necessarily mean that you thought it was the series finale, or that you wanted it to be. It can also mean that you thought it was a strange way to end the season, and/or that it felt like a series finale, even though you knew it wasn't.

The options in the second poll are far too silly. People are voting for the Quinn option because it's the only one that isn't ridiculous. Why no option where Carrie is still the main character but isn't sleeping with a suspected terrorist? Oh, right, there was such an option, "a comedy in Istanbul". You might as well have made this an option: "Brody isn't really dead, and Chris will use his karate to bust him out of a secret prison".

A spy drama with Quinn as a Jack Bauer character will certainly be watchable, but it wouldn't be as good as the first two seasons of Homeland. It would be a very different kind of show. It would be so much like 24 that you might as well call it 24. Think about it. Quinn even has an incompetent and very annoying boss who will try to sabotage everything.

I guess they will just find a way to get Carrie, Quinn and Saul to work together on preventing another terrorist attack. Carrie and Quinn are obviously going to end up a couple. It would make sense to have the next season start 2-3 years after the events at the end of season 3. That would make it easier to bring Carrie back to the USA.

I'd rather talk about what season 3 should have been about. I think it should have been mainly about Carrie proving that Brody didn't do it (and finally succeeding around episode 8 with Quinn's help). The CIA could have tried to use her to find Brody, e.g. by putting her on the kind of extreme surveillance that was used on Brody in season 1. Perhaps Quinn would have been one of the people who watched her. (Not sure how I feel about this idea). This would have put him in a situation that's similar to Carrie's situation in season 1.

The CIA could also have worked on finding the people who planned the attack at the same time. Maybe they would have used Quinn for that instead. After all, he kills bad guys.

The last few episodes could have been about taking down the people behind the bombing, while Brody comes back and deals with the extremely strange situation where everyone knows that he's innocent of the Langley bombing, but was at one point broken enough to try to do a suicide bombing. This would have given the writers plenty of options for the end of season 3 and the continuation in season 4. There would have been several ways to kill Brody if they wanted him dead, and he could also have been written out of the show without killing him. It would also have been possible to keep him on the show, if they could think of a good way to include him in season 4.

By the way, I have no problem with the Dana stuff that happened before she took her mom's car and went on a road trip. It was a necessary consequence of what happened in season 2, it was very well acted, and the dialogue was very well written, even if the romance wasn't. Dana and Jessica should also have been a part of the end of the season.
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I understand what you're saying and you may be right. But I do like to challenge our members a bit so I put it forward this way. That's also why I made the answers to the second poll in the way they are and asked the readers to put in their scenarios. And some did as you can read in the post

What you suggest will probably be what they will do and of course I knew that also, but that does not make it fun to do the post. And, I gave the readers the possibility to give that scenario and they did. I mentioned it in the post.

Although I do not find the 'what should have happened in season 3' discussion that interesting (it is over now), I do agree with you that they should have done a better job and missed out on all the interesting possibilities like the ones you described. I've written about it in the community/comments before.

And, thanks for your reaction, I hope I'll get more like yours.

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