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Sam Puckett is worse than Lucy Van Pelt

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    MadameCat

    [41]Jan 8, 2011
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    I like Lucy too, but I'm just saying that to stop the fight before it turns into an all out war between the Lucy haters and the Sam haters.

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    Tkerekes13

    [42]Jan 9, 2011
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    MadameCat wrote:


    I like Lucy too, but I'm just saying that to stop the fight before it turns into an all out war between the Lucy haters and the Sam haters.


    Okay.

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    MadameCat

    [43]Jan 11, 2011
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    I mean seriously, I hate stuff like this. It all stems its ugly seed back to those "which is better" fights I love to partake in, just to bother people.

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    MusicAddictBabe

    [44]Jan 11, 2011
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    Wow, I didn't even read any of the posts other than the first, like, ten and I already knew that this would turn out sort of quarrelsome when I noticed the four pages after it (I have it set for ten posts per page, btw).

    I never actually truly thought about how mean both character are. Like, if both shows were real, thinking about it, I think the other characters would need theorapy. lol (IMO...don't take that statement to heart, please.)
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    MadameCat

    [45]Jan 12, 2011
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    Someone gets it! -hugs her-

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    vanillacupcakes

    [46]Jan 12, 2011
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    Doesn't Sam already go to a therapist?? Haha I think it's iLook Alike where they say that. The iCarly characters are so overexaggerated I would expect most of them in therapy. Haha especially Mrs. Benson and Mr. Howard. Oh, and Nevel! Maybe they could go to Gibby's therapist, I mean Gibby turned out okay now right?? Compared to how messed he was before...
    I could see Lucy being in therapy too, hehe. To me the crazy characters are always my favorites. I do love Lucy. (:

    *I thought I'd change the subject, just because. You can resume with your arguing if you wish.
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    MusicAddictBabe

    [47]Jan 13, 2011
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    MadameCat - Hugs for me? Why, thank you ^_^ *hugs back*

    VC - lol I know. I'm pretty sure if the iCarly gang was real, something would definitely be wrong with society (no offense to them). lol Very true. They are the best lol hohoho...I love Lucy. I don't know if you intentionally did that or not, but it's a good pun.
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    MadameCat

    [48]Jan 13, 2011
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    Yep, hugs for you...and, I wish the KND were real. We could drive at 8 years old...



    ...and I agree on the 'if they were real we would have problems' thing too...

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    vanillacupcakes

    [49]Jan 13, 2011
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    I didn't really, but noticed that it said "I Love Lucy" after I posted it, haha. Unintended puns ftw. Seriously Lucy is one of my favorite characters. (:
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    MusicAddictBabe

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    MadameCat - ^_^ I know. That'd be totally sweet!

    VC - lol Oh, the irony. Yeah, she's one of my favorites too.
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    MadameCat

    [51]Jan 14, 2011
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    I wish they'd still show reruns of Lucy on TV Land--the last time I looked, she was replaced by Andy Griffith and Bewitched, as well as Jeannie...hours of Jeannie and Betwitched concurrently. I love both, but what other shows are there, besides reality shows? Andy only shows at now nine at night...

    Edited on 01/14/2011 6:02am
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    MusicAddictBabe

    [52]Jan 26, 2011
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    I'm not sure. I haven't watched TV Land in awhile. Come to think of it, I haven't watched a lot of channels in awhile. Not even Nick.
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    MadameCat

    [53]Jan 28, 2011
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    Good for you.

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    thundercat2000

    [54]May 1, 2011
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    Does Sam have to win every single fight she starts? There are people way bigger than her and she defeats them? Come on!! I know this isn't meant to be taken seriously but it wouldn't hurt for Sam to see what it is like to be bullied.

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    marcdragicevic

    [55]May 1, 2011
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    thundercat2000 wrote:

    Does Sam have to win every single fight she starts? There are people way bigger than her and she defeats them? Come on!! I know this isn't meant to be taken seriously but it wouldn't hurt for Sam to see what it is like to be bullied.



    I've actually always wondered why she wins so many fights. Doesn't seem realistic.
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    teenj12

    [56]May 1, 2011
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    marcdragicevic wrote:
    thundercat2000 wrote:

    Does Sam have to win every single fight she starts? There are people way bigger than her and she defeats them? Come on!! I know this isn't meant to be taken seriously but it wouldn't hurt for Sam to see what it is like to be bullied.



    I've actually always wondered why she wins so many fights. Doesn't seem realistic.

    Agreed. But really, this thread should have been left to R.I.P (even though it was pretty awesome )
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    pscf3

    [57]May 1, 2011
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    He didn't bring it back, thundercat did.

    teenj12 wrote:
    marcdragicevic wrote:
    thundercat2000 wrote:

    Does Sam have to win every single fight she starts? There are people way bigger than her and she defeats them? Come on!! I know this isn't meant to be taken seriously but it wouldn't hurt for Sam to see what it is like to be bullied.



    I've actually always wondered why she wins so many fights. Doesn't seem realistic.

    Agreed. But really, this thread should have been left to R.I.P (even though it was pretty awesome )
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    teenj12

    [58]May 1, 2011
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    I know that.
    pscf3 wrote:
    He didn't bring it back, thundercat did.

    teenj12 wrote:
    marcdragicevic wrote:
    thundercat2000 wrote:

    Does Sam have to win every single fight she starts? There are people way bigger than her and she defeats them? Come on!! I know this isn't meant to be taken seriously but it wouldn't hurt for Sam to see what it is like to be bullied.



    I've actually always wondered why she wins so many fights. Doesn't seem realistic.

    Agreed. But really, this thread should have been left to R.I.P (even though it was pretty awesome )
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    pscf3

    [59]May 1, 2011
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    Haha.

    There both tv shows.

    So calm down posters from a year ago who will likely never read this.

    Tkerekes13 wrote:

    gideonbernstein wrote:
    At least Sam is the way she is because she is raised in poverty by a family of criminals who hardly care about her. Lucy has no excuse at all. Sam torment Freddie because he is a nice guy, and she once said that nice irritates her. She is only friends with Carly because Carly is the one person as though as she is, and even Carly often wonders she she is friends with her.
    You forget, being raised in poverty is no excuse, either. Besides, despite having no excuse, Lucy's action are, in my opinion, far more justified than Sam's, because, in terms outside universe, Dan Schneider seems to think that making Sam do this kinda stuff is funny, enough to the point where it's not funny at all.


    _Flutterlight_ wrote:
    While it's true that Lucy is not quite that mean to Charlie Brown, it's impossible to say she's not as bad as Sam when you look at the way Lucy treats Linus, her own flesh and blood. Lucy punches Linus on numerous occasions, knocks him over with a moving television set, gives his room to a stray dog, and even kicks him out of the house! She even says to his face that she never wanted him to be born. (And then tries to replace him with Snoopy dressed up in baby clothes in an effort to out-do Charlie Brown after Sally is born). That's a heck of a lot meaner than anything Sam does to Freddy. Also, Lucy does physically hurt Charlie Brown in ways other than the football. She body-checks him in golf. And punches him at least once.
    In Lucy's defense, Lucy punching Linus is an example of typical sister-brother warfare, which could be more or less justifiable since it is kinda one-sided.


    Plus, whatever you say that Lucy does is a lot meaner than anything that Sam does to Freddie, they are at least more justifiable than every single thing that Sam does to Freddie. So before you speak otherwise, it is clear to me that Sam undoubtedly crossed the moral event horizon.


    _Flutterlight_ wrote:
    The thinks Lucy did, (kicking Linus out of his own house), could have killed her brother too. And they would have killed him slowly, in a more painful way too. He could have died of hypothermia, been kidnapped and murdered, kidnapped and sexually assaulted and murdered, died of starvation, etc. Besides, if it was really that bad, wouldn't Freddy just stop hanging around her and Carly? He can always leave, like he did in that one episode where he and Sam kissed. Linus can't leave. He lives in the same house as Lucy, even though she verbally abuses her brother constantly. Do you know how damaging it is to have your own sister tell you she wishes you were never born?
    Well, it's safe to assume that Lucy is up for redemption. I mean, from what I've seen, she's never been to juvie before, apparently because she's never done anything illegal, unlike Sam, so that makes Lucy a far better character than Sam.


    I do see what you're getting at, though. Lucy may not have learned about all the dangers in the world, but somebody could have kept reminding her over and over until she had the guts to do something about it.


    _Flutterlight_ wrote:
    I've noticed, a lot of the "incidents" you guys have been pointing out are things that were meant to be jokes. But you're missing a crucial part to Sam's character: 85% or more of what she does is meant to be for comic relief. Sam isn't a "plot" character. She's never the one to set up the joke. That's either Carly or Freddie's job. Seriously, the laugh track plays for Sam WAY more often than it does for Carly and Freddie. You can't count the stuff Sam does for a joke. That's exaggerated for the purpose of being funny. (Emphasis on EXAGGERATED). It's not rational behavior. It's contrary to what is expected of that person, because that's how you write a joke. You make somebody do something that's unexpected. (Like Carly not helping Freddie). The reason you can't count jokes is because what's unexpected is going to change. Like how Drake's stupidity slowly got more and more pronounced throughout Drake and Josh. He clearly was not THAT inherently stupid, as seen in "Drake and Josh Really Big Shrimp" when he berates Josh for signing a contract without reading it first. It takes a certain level of intelligence to know to do that. The writers played up his idiocy for the show. Now, the thing about Lucy is that Lucy's actions are NOT played up for jokes. Lucy's actions set up the jokes in Peanuts, whether it's her punching Charlie Brown in the nose, or her throwing Linus out of his house. The strip starts, Lucy does something incredibly mean, and THEN you get the punch line.
    Well, that's true what you're saying about Lucy's actions, but may I remind you that her actions are far more justifiable than Sam's? Because as you mentioned before, Lucy's actions are meant to be taken seriously, and that, in my mind, makes Lucy a very justifiable character.


    Another thing about the laugh track, if I were in charge of the show, I'd make it so that the laugh track doesn't play for Sam every time. It's almost like they're practically spoiling Sam. Of course, they never seem to spoil Lucy, which may be for the better. Plus, I think you gotta remember that Lucy did have some humorous moments herself, though I don't have time to list them.


    I hope my words got across to you.

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