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What's with the language?!?!

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    kanniballl

    [41]May 23, 2011
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    As mentioned, this is Cable and not Network Broadcast, the FCC has no power over them. Cable is a service you pay for knowing that the experience might not be to your liking. If you have problems with it you need to contact your local franchise and/or stop paying for the service.


    One of the draws of cable, for both viewers and studios/writers/etc is the freedom. Cable shows (including news) can do a lot more without worrying about being censored by the government or parent groups.


    So if "standards" are not enforced then it becomes a numbers game: who does and who does not want mature subject matter, cursing, etc. And if someone doesn't like something, simply don't watch the show or use the V-Chip. Right there they give you the option: you don't want your kids watching something with coarse or vulgar language then set it to avoid shows that are either TV-14 or TV-MA



    I pay for quality uncensored TV, or what little of it there is now a days, so:
    - Why should my viewing habits be affected by your religious beliefs or opinions on morality?
    - Why should your opinion mean more than mine?



    At most our opinions should be equal, but the logic below gives me a little more weight


    (A) Leave in something that's a little mature offensive, then the offended parties can avoid it (see above methods).


    (B) Take it out of one of the few mediums where it exists, and the people that WANT it have NO option.

    Edited on 05/23/2011 1:09pm
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    tommy0122

    [42]May 23, 2011
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    Just watch the Disney Channel. Maybe the language there will meet with your approval.

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    vicbjones

    [43]Jun 12, 2011
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    I would say the reactions of people who don't mind the foul language have been a lot more offensive than the OP's comments. I'm not necessarily offended by the profanity, but i can agree that it often seems superfluous. The idea that it's necessary for realism is a false flag; as some of the responding posters have already pointed out, TV is generally intended for escapism, so how is realism a reasonable excuse for profanity? If the language is no big deal and it's "just words," then maybe the people who've been ridiculing the OP are the ones who need to relax.

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    kanniballl

    [44]Jun 13, 2011
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    vicbjones wrote:


    I would say the reactions of people who don't mind the foul language have been a lot more offensive than the OP's comments. I'm not necessarily offended by the profanity, but i can agree that it often seems superfluous. The idea that it's necessary for realism is a false flag; as some of the responding posters have already pointed out, TV is generally intended for escapism, so how is realism a reasonable excuse for profanity? If the language is no big deal and it's "just words," then maybe the people who've been ridiculing the OP are the ones who need to relax.




    I find my previous post to be calm and give good reasons.


    In generalities: I think part of the hostility is Group A is just tired of the knee-jerk reactions from Group B due to things that go against B's morals... and that leads to "heated" responses from people that see even the slightest complaint as an attack.


    It can get aggravating, especially when one side decides to request something be stopped or removed or censored instead of just turning their head and not be bothered about it.


    Example:


    - It's one thing if someone in the next apartment is blasting music you find offensive and you ask him to stop. You really have no other realistic choice since wearing ear-plugs isn't really a solution. And obviously take it from there if they refuse.


    - It's another if you find a satellite-radio station with offensive music and ask them to stop broadcasting it or bleep it out, thus depriving people of the music that actually want to hear it. When you can simply not turn on that station.



    It may sound silly or petty, but between in-person meetings where people try to enforce their standards on me for religion, language, clothing, to things we do on our own property and in our own home, etc... I can see why someone would blow their top.


    Everyone has beliefs, morals, religion, etc. A lot of this word's problems stem from the attempts of one group trying to enforce their values on another. When one's zealousy starts to actively change the life of another, disaster is the result.


    Let's leave television alone.

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    Jemadari

    [45]Jun 13, 2011
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    I just noticed this thread and it is quite possibly the single most childish thing on the whole of the internet


    If it doesn't appeal to you don't watch it or do but definitely grow a pair and stop forcing your hangups on other people


    I personally don't like men who order salads in restaurants(I mean seriously get a rare steak) but I don't complain to management instead I ask him if it's that time of the month and hope he invites me to the parking lot,but I digress, seriously I suspect this thread was started by a troll and kept up by bored people

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    vicbjones

    [46]Jun 13, 2011
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    Profanity is used so much on TV and in movies now that it doesn't have the impact that it does in older movies. Therefore it's not contributing much most of the time. Sometimes a character on a show will throw in the word "Hell," and my gut reaction is "There was no point to that" or "That wasn't necessary." I could just turn off the show, or I could lobby to change it, which is well within my rights as a viewer and not an encroachment on anyone else's rights. Comments like "grow a pair" or "grow up" don't make you sound any more mature than cursing for the sake of cursing does.

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    Jemadari

    [47]Jun 13, 2011
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    WOW it's so funny that I find myself in the inadvertent role of devil's advocate for profanity seeing as I rarely swear myself

    And as a person who prefers classic films to modern movies and even most tv shows I can actually live without profanity on tv now that having been said I feel the exact same about sex on tv as some do about cursing it almost never furthers the story and is clearly included for those who need that extra bit of vulgarity

    And the very last thing I wanted was to give off the impression that I was personally attacking anyone or attempting to deny them their rights and I really don't think there was cause to single me out or question my emotional development I simply stated the personal standards I hold myself up to as an individual and the (admittedly) uncouth manner in which I them not withstanding I still firmly believe that that they have merit and weren't meant to be the slightest bit malicious

    And just in case anyone is wondering the last salad statement was a joke to express my sentiments towards this thread,when I'm out with my friends I could care less what anyone else is eating and i'm not some uncivilized neanderthal who goes around starting fights in parking lots

    and some posters might want to take their own advice and relax
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    philos31

    [48]Jun 21, 2011
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    There is this magic button on your TV remote that you can press as soon as you feel offended.
    It actually is named that way only abbreviated to "OFF"
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    tommy0122

    [49]Jun 27, 2011
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    philos31 wrote:
    There is this magic button on your TV remote that you can press as soon as you feel offended.
    It actually is named that way only abbreviated to "OFF"


    I agree 100%. I would suggest the Disney Channel if a person is offended by the language, which is very mild in my opinion.
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