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Journeyman Cancelled !!!!!!

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    naveenjn

    [1]Dec 11, 2007
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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071212/tv_nm/journeyman_dc

    LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - The journey is coming to an end for NBC's freshman series "Journeyman."

    NBC had until Tuesday to give a full-season pickup to the time-travel drama starring Kevin McKidd. The network let that option lapse, practically canceling the series, which posted its lowest adults 18-49 rating (1.7 rating/8 share) on Monday without a "Heroes" lead-in. The network already tried out fellow rookie "Life" in "Journeyman"'s Monday 10 p.m. slot last week.

    Despite the Hollywood writers strike, "Journeyman" was able to complete its 13-episode order.

    The remaining two original segments will air as scheduled, an NBC spokeswoman said.

    NBC recently handed out full-season pickups to two of its four rookie scripted series, "Life" and "Chuck."

    Since the production of most scripted series has been suspended because of the strike, such orders are considered a vote of confidence to the shows and a potential renewal for next season if the additional episodes can't be produced by the end of this season.

    In limbo is the fate of the fourth new NBC series, the once-promising "Bionic Woman," which has been sliding in the ratings since its premiere.

    Reuters/Hollywood Reporter
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    Undernet01

    [2]Dec 11, 2007
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    They need to put something in front of Journeyman that people actually watch.

    And they're wrong.

    It didn't get measly 1 million Viewers. According to Zap2It, it got 3.6, down 0.1% from the previous Episode.

    I'd hardly call that a large decline.

    And with two Episodes left, of course everyone is going to say the show is Ending. With the Writer's Strike, ordering a Full Season wouldn't help anyways. They'll probably wait until Volume 3 of Heroes begins, then order the Full Season from there.
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    bjmcdonald

    [3]Dec 11, 2007
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    I am saddened by this, not only by the fact that this great show is going off theair, but also by the idea that America would rather watch something dubbed as "reality" as opposed to viewing something thata writerhad to use their imagination to scribe.
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    bballer151

    [4]Dec 12, 2007
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    This really pisses me off. People would rather watch "reality" crap istead of smart and interesting shows. it shows how STUPID America has gotten and people need to get smart for once.
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    robinepowell

    [5]Dec 12, 2007
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    Here's a website dedicated to helping it along for a second season. It's a good show and once again a good show doesn't get the credit is deserves from its network. Too many reality shows on TV.

    :
    Question: Any news on whether Journeyman will see a second season? It's just starting to get really good. - Peter Ausiello: All signs point to no, which is why you should drop everything you're doing and head over to http://savejourneyman.net/campaign/ to find out what you can do to help save the show. (Hint: It involves buying lots of Rice O Roni.) Meanwhile, the final two episodes (possibly ever) are scheduled to air on Dec. 17 and 19.

    Edited on 12/12/2007 1:59am
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    mackymacaspac

    [6]Dec 12, 2007
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    if this is true and final, this is just sad. there are several questions yet to be answered and more stories they could tell. journeyman is one of the new series that has potential. damn the ratings! it would be a shame not to have this show renewed.
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    RiderJetfire

    [7]Dec 12, 2007
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    DON'T LET THIS SATND!!!! CONTINUE TO SEND E-MAILS TO NBC!!!!!! DON'T GIVE UP HOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    djariya

    [8]Dec 12, 2007
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    I really liked the show, but it was in a doomed timeslot. It was competing against CSI:Miami and The Bachelor who already have established fanbases. Plus, it was losing more than half of Heroes' audience every week. I guess fans of Heroes weren't interested in watching this show. That's why NBC passed on a full season.

    You all need to blame the Heroes audience for choosing to pass on this show.

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    gt0163c

    [9]Dec 12, 2007
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    At this point, I don't think that anyone can say definitively whether the show is cancelled or not. What we do know for certain is that it hasn't received a full season order. In the past, this would mean that the show is almost certainly cancelled. However, with the writers' strike, I'm not certain not receiving a full season order (of scripts) is as certain a death blow as it normally would be.
    Now, not receiving the order for more scripts indicates a lack of confidence in the show on the part of the network. Despite the writers' strike, some new shows, including Chuck, have received full season orders. When those scripts will be written and when the shows will air is, of course, dependent on the resolution of (say it with me now) the writers' strike. But, the thing is, there's a good chance that there won't be a second half to the television season this, well, season. And, if the strike continues too much longer, there's going to be a significant lack of new pilots that the networks can develop into new shows for next season...or whatever the television timetable looks like once the writers' get a fair deal. I'm guessing that, provided the strike continues on for a while longer (and I believe it will), the networks will be in a hurry to get new, scripted content back on the air as soon as possible. And that means going with shows that are already established, as opposed to having to build new shows from the ground up. And I think that bodes well for shows like Journeyman who, while they might not have the best ratings numbers, can probably get back into production and turn out new episodes faster than a new show which would have to not only have new scripts written, but also have a concept demonstrated, a cast and crew put together, sets built and everything else that goes into starting a television show from scratch.
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    Jacks_Son

    [10]Dec 12, 2007
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    gt0163c wrote:
    At this point, I don't think that anyone can say definitively whether the show is cancelled or not. What we do know for certain is that it hasn't received a full season order. In the past, this would mean that the show is almost certainly cancelled. However, with the writers' strike, I'm not certain not receiving a full season order (of scripts) is as certain a death blow as it normally would be.
    Now, not receiving the order for more scripts indicates a lack of confidence in the show on the part of the network. Despite the writers' strike, some new shows, including Chuck, have received full season orders. When those scripts will be written and when the shows will air is, of course, dependent on the resolution of (say it with me now) the writers' strike. But, the thing is, there's a good chance that there won't be a second half to the television season this, well, season. And, if the strike continues too much longer, there's going to be a significant lack of new pilots that the networks can develop into new shows for next season...or whatever the television timetable looks like once the writers' get a fair deal. I'm guessing that, provided the strike continues on for a while longer (and I believe it will), the networks will be in a hurry to get new, scripted content back on the air as soon as possible. And that means going with shows that are already established, as opposed to having to build new shows from the ground up. And I think that bodes well for shows like Journeyman who, while they might not have the best ratings numbers, can probably get back into production and turn out new episodes faster than a new show which would have to not only have new scripts written, but also have a concept demonstrated, a cast and crew put together, sets built and everything else that goes into starting a television show from scratch.

    I agree.

    What I don't understand is why are they playing a funeral dirge for "Journeyman" when a similar decision was made with regards to "Bionic Woman" and no such proclamation of death has followed?

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    lennydonkey

    [11]Dec 12, 2007
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    Jacks_Son wrote:

    What I don't understand is why are they playing a funeral dirge for "Journeyman" when a similar decision was made with regards to "Bionic Woman" and no such proclamation of death has followed?

    I'm not sure what the difference actually is, but it may be something between the lines of one of the sentences in the article:

    "NBC had until Tuesday to give a full-season pickup to the time-travel drama starring Kevin McKidd."

    I'm guessing that means it had something to do with a deadline in the contract between the production company and NBC, while Bionic Woman may have more time until a renewal deadline in their agreement with NBC. Just a thought, because they are certainly in the same situation.

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    Jacks_Son

    [12]Dec 12, 2007
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    You're most likely correct, although "Journeyman" is like the ugly stepchild compared to NBC's flagship show, "Bionic Woman", when it comes to studio support.
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    FCBarca

    [13]Dec 12, 2007
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    Network heads are pretty predictable, unfortunately...Money and Sex talks...Sexist shows like Bionic Woman and Chuck get the PR blitz but Journeyman falls to the side.

    The other possibility if these reports are true is that the show could still survive either on one of the other big networks or make it's way to something like Sci-Fi or something.

    But, if true, disappointing...Show was starting to come into it's own but alas, this is television and the realities of what sells for mainstream America...Sex, Reality Shows & Violence

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    djariya

    [14]Dec 12, 2007
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    All the actors, cast and crew are only contractually obligated to work on 13 episodes. NBC needed to make a decision on the back 9 to extend their contracts for the 9 remaining episodes. Otherwise, now everyone is free to pursue other projects including Kevin McKidd.

    Plus, Journeyman is produced by a different studio (FOX) and it probably costs more to license a show from a different studio and with it's poor ratings, NBC probably didn't want to spend anymore money on it.
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    AbsoluteTheory

    [15]Dec 13, 2007
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    Undernet01 wrote:
    They need to put something in front of Journeyman that people actually watch.

    They need to put it in an appropriate time slot, advertise it, and not have it coming on after something that is drastically different in style and content. Having it come on after Heroes is like having it come on after Loony Toons; having it come on after Deal Or No Deal (or some cheap, half-baked reality show) is even worse. It needs to be on at 9PM, at the latest, and come before or after a program like Life.

    RiderJetfire wrote:
    DON'T LET THIS SATND!!!! CONTINUE TO SEND E-MAILS TO NBC!!!!!! DON'T GIVE UP HOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Agreed! A good portion of the fans are busy emailing Fox about possibly taking it over, if they can, and giving it a worthy time slot on their network (since it is their production). Far-fetched as it may sound, continued action on the part of the fans in any form, from emailing NBC, to sending Rice-A-Roni, to snail mail, to emailing Fox, is better than the fan base collectively accepting this news as an absolute certainty and giving up.

    That will do nothing but confirm what NBC already thinks: That the fans support and believe in the show even less than the network itself.

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    jxsilicon9

    [16]Dec 13, 2007
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    Unless its another terrible music reality show. Fox isn't a good choice. Even if they did pick it up. They would probably cancel it even faster.
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    RiderJetfire

    [17]Dec 13, 2007
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    Does anyone else think that Sci Fi Channel could pick this show up? I mean, Journeyman had pretty steady viewers trhoughout its run on NBC so if it shifted over to Sci Fi I bet thos epeople would shift with it, along with some new viewers who would discover the show on Sci Fi. Just an idea.
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    AbsoluteTheory

    [18]Dec 13, 2007
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    jxsilicon9 wrote:
    Unless its another terrible music reality show. Fox isn't a good choice. Even if they did pick it up. They would probably cancel it even faster.

    This is true, since they have a pretty hot trigger finger when it comes to underperforming shows. But I'd rather see Journeyman given a chance on a network like Fox with the possibility of a more accomodating time slot, better promotion and some more appropriate company, as far as the shows that come on before or after it, than simply seeing it dismissed at the height of its potential.

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    copygeek

    [19]Dec 13, 2007
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    RiderJetfire wrote:
    Does anyone else think that Sci Fi Channel could pick this show up? I mean, Journeyman had pretty steady viewers trhoughout its run on NBC so if it shifted over to Sci Fi I bet thos epeople would shift with it, along with some new viewers who would discover the show on Sci Fi. Just an idea.

    I think this would be one of the best ideas. For Sci Fi Channel, Journeyman's ratings are good. Actually, they are similar to BSG when it was in its first couple of seasons, and that was considered a hit series.

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    Placebo_obecalP

    [20]Dec 13, 2007
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    Bionic Woman deserved to be cancelled, poor writing, uninteresting plots and events, lacking character development. Whereas Journeyman was getting stronger with every episode and certainly deserved a chance to build up its own market share.
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