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    KnightGuard

    [21]Jan 14, 2007
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    It doesn't work out, in the series, Sheego is an alien from outer space, if you didn't see that episode. Aliens shouldn't be with humans.
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    beeftony

    [22]Jan 14, 2007
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    Since when is Shego an alien? Unless you meant Go Team Go, in which the comet was from space, not Shego herself. Definitely the oddest argument I've seen against KiGo.

    Still, you bring up a related point: her powers. How exactly would that factor in to their "nocturnal activities?" I already have a few plot bunnies running around in my head that make me think I should be institutionalized.
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    Zokolov

    [23]Jan 15, 2007
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    Shego is green...But definetely not an alien!

    You see the comet that came from space striked their treehouse and gave Shego, Hego, Mego and Wego (the twins) supernatural powers! I have also been wondering, how does Shego control her powers with her mind? Do her hands ignite whenever she feels angry or something?

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    beeftony

    [24]Jan 15, 2007
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    It's never really been explored on the show, though I read a fanfic recently that explores a rather violent and disturbing possibility of alien symbiotes implanted in their bodies. It's called A Period of Silence. Warning: it's KiGo (As if I'd advertise it here if it wasn't. That's what my blog is for).

    And just as a note, it's actually the sequel to one of the best KiGo stories I've ever read, the one I voted for this year's Fannie Awards: Fling. It's a perfect example of the artistry and dedication some people are willing to pour into these stories. Check it out.
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    kitty_girl_123

    [25]Jan 17, 2007
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    I'm just sick of it! Anytime I go to fanfic.net, thats the first couple mentioned! Anytime I go to otehr kp fansites, there it is! Its the most annoying KP couple ever thought of!!!!! And thats why I hate it with a passion!!!!!
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    beeftony

    [26]Jan 17, 2007
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    Okay, but you're only proving my point. People are too quick to write the pairing off based on personal feelings, and in this case personal feelings against the people who support it.

    Relatively few people know the reason that the death penalty is banned in Germany. The law was proposed by a politician with Nazi sympathies in an attempt to block executions of war criminals. Does this mean that the death penalty should be approved just because banning it favored Nazis? The answer is an emphatic "no." Regardless of its origins, a law must stand on its own merit.

    The same must be true of anything if we wish to build an argument from it. Is it the fact that people pay attention to little else that bothers you? If that is the case, get over it. KiGo is here to stay and the SlashHaven people are not going to change. The least we can do is look at it objectively and rationally without resorting to personal feelings.
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    Lena_Wayne15

    [27]Jan 21, 2007
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    Lena_Wayne15 wrote:
    Sorry. I'm do exactly support homosexuality. Religious beliefs and all.


    Yeah, I mean't to say don't. I DON'T support it. But, if you don't look at homosexuality from a religious standpoint, there is no reason for it. From a scientific point of view, it's pointless. There is no reproduction. If there was a society that was completely homosexual it would die off.
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    beeftony

    [28]Jan 21, 2007
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    Lena_Wayne15 wrote:
    Lena_Wayne15 wrote:
    Sorry. I'm do exactly support homosexuality. Religious beliefs and all.


    Yeah, I mean't to say don't. I DON'T support it. But, if you don't look at homosexuality from a religious standpoint, there is no reason for it. From a scientific point of view, it's pointless. There is no reproduction. If there was a society that was completely homosexual it would die off.


    But that's exactly what I'm NOT talking about. I want to know whether you think it would work based on the characters regardless of sexual preference. If, hypothetically, one of them was a man, would it work then? I actually read a story based on that premise, but I won't provide a link because it's rated M and it quite honestly disgusted me.

    What I'm saying is that we need to remove homosexuality from the debate entirely and focus on Kim and Shego's characters. Get away from all the red herrings, and focus on the issue at hand.
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    nickel2006

    [29]Jan 22, 2007
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    my vote went to EWWWWW!!! NOOOOO!!!

    beeftony wrote:
    And besides, who doesn't like lesbians? The United States Army (ironically) did a study of its enlisted members to see if they were "normal" or "deviant." One of the questions was, "Do you like lesbian porn?" If the subject answered yes, then they were considered "normal." I just found that interesting.



    has it ever occurred to u that most sick males said they like lesbian porn and i know a lot of people who dont and even hate like lesbians and im not saying that i hate lesbians

    and kim and shego hate each other so it would never work
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    beeftony

    [30]Jan 22, 2007
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    But the sad reality is that those people are considered normal. By the way, that info came from CNN so I think they would get their facts straight. It's when people are ADDICTED to lesbian porn that they become deviant. The average human male has a sexual thought once every 6 seconds. Are you trying to tell me that some of those thoughts aren't going to include lesbians? Of course they are going to think about that sort of stuff; they're just guys.

    But again you're only missing my point. I'm NOT here to debate whether homosexuality is right or wrong. My question is whether or not Kim and Shego would make a good long-term couple, regardless of the fact that they're both women.

    As for them hating each other, I don't see it like that. It's more of a begrudging respect between opponents. Even K/R writers such as myself view their relationship like this. Hell, I wrote a D/S fic that explored the possibility of Kim and Shego becoming close friends once a dramatic event (Shego revealing a secret about her past that leads to her and Drakken hooking up) causes them to see that they have so much in common. If you're interested in reading it, it's called Fallen Angel.

    Please, don't think I'm stupid. I know that some people are sick perverts, but all guys entertain a fantasy of two women getting it on at one point or another. I defy one man to say truthfully that they haven't at least thought about it. Hell, the fact that you're posting here means that you probably have.
    Edited on 01/22/2007 3:01pm
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    nickel2006

    [31]Jan 23, 2007
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    im not a boy
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    beeftony

    [32]Jan 23, 2007
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    Sorry, couldn't tell. That post was more directed at all the people who posted on this thread, and most of them are male. Seriously though, if that's all you got from my post, then my faith in human rationality has been severely lessened. Some people just can't hold a debate.
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    kitty_girl_123

    [33]Jan 23, 2007
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    beeftony wrote:
    Okay, but you're only proving my point. People are too quick to write the pairing off based on personal feelings, and in this case personal feelings against the people who support it.

    Relatively few people know the reason that the death penalty is banned in Germany. The law was proposed by a politician with Nazi sympathies in an attempt to block executions of war criminals. Does this mean that the death penalty should be approved just because banning it favored Nazis? The answer is an emphatic "no." Regardless of its origins, a law must stand on its own merit.

    The same must be true of anything if we wish to build an argument from it. Is it the fact that people pay attention to little else that bothers you? If that is the case, get over it. KiGo is here to stay and the SlashHaven people are not going to change. The least we can do is look at it objectively and rationally without resorting to personal feelings.




    Don't put words in my mouth! I'm just saying that I'm sick of seeing it!
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    beeftony

    [34]Jan 23, 2007
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    Then why do you continue to post on this thread? Seriously, for someone who claims that they are tired of hearing KiGo discussed, you seem awfully interested in reading this and misinterpreting me by claiming that I misinterpreted you. I wasn't putting words in your mouth; I was summing up my feelings on the thread so far, and it was not designed purely to respond to your post. Sorry if it felt like I was singling you out just to belittle you. I would never do that.
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    beeftony

    [35]Jan 23, 2007
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    Hopefully this won't get me flamed, but I finally wrote a KiGo just so that I could understand where those other authors are coming from. It's called The Silence. It's honestly more of an experiment to see if I can even write KiGo, and I have no future stories planned in this arc. The story itself is based on The Silence of the Lambs. If it's any consolation to you non-KiGo people, I plan to stay true to the ending of that movie, since in my mind KiGo can only work as an affair. Here's to hoping people can be rational enough not to flame me.
    Edited on 01/24/2007 12:08am
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    WCReaf

    [36]Jan 25, 2007
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    Let me just start off by saying that I'm a Kigo shipper, I write and read fanfics about Kigo and it is the reason why I started watching KP.

    I know how that sounds but it's the truth. I saw two episodes of KP before and I wasn't that interested. Then by pure chance I came across some fan art my Rinacat, one of the most recognised, and best, fan artists of Kigo, what I viewed there was not a pairing of the 'damsel in distress' pairing that is frequented in most fanfiction, but one born out of equals and a truly heart warming romance between two people.

    So you can say I'm biased here, but I don't see Kim and Shego as bitter enemies, rather as rivals that when they're "off the clock" (so to speak) they can enjoy a drink together (of coffee or tea because Kim's underage ) and talk like normal people.

    In fanfiction everyone's OOC unless you factor in that people change and grow. Shego's not going to quit her job unless she has a good reason, which many Kigo writers give her, whether it's about her past, why she started working for Drakken in the first place, or just something that happened that forces her hand and makes her do something she didn't really want to do, go back to being a hero.

    For those that think that Kim and Shego hate each others guts and want to kill each other (that's a general view of the majority) I point to 'Go Team Go'. Now GTG has Kim and Shego working together to help Shego's brothers, they don't fight each other, they worked well together, and they didn't show any animosity to one another.

    That's just my two pennies though.

    Thank you for starting this topic and keeping it in order.

    Edited on 01/25/2007 6:30am
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    beeftony

    [37]Jan 25, 2007
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    No problem. I'm glad SOMEONE has the good sense to be rational about this. Like I've said before, KiGo is possible because the people who write it make it possible (pun intended). KiGo stories make up 90% of all fanfiction, and I'm even writing one myself.

    That said, let me remind everybody that I'm not taking sides. I'm a supporter of both KiGo and K/R, and I write a lot more of the latter. The KiGo I'm working on does not so much advocate it as it entertains the thought and then dismisses it as nothing but a fling since in my mind that's as far as KiGo could realistically go. Even though authors such as King in Yellow have been successful in crafting entire universes out of the ship, I do not plan to go that route because I don't think that I could. I'm doing it more for the challenge than anything. The KiGo content in the story, while it is the main focus, is not in there just to be exploitative. Whenever I include controversial subject matter, I make sure that there is a reason for it.

    For example, the same story I mentioned above is based heavily on the plot of The Silence of The Lambs in regards to Kim and Shego's reason for getting together and the ending I have in mind ("I'm having a friend for dinner"), only instead of cannibalism it will be homosexuality causing the controversy. The movie itself was a very intelligent psychological suspense thriller, which is exactly what I have in mind.

    Most people tend to change the characters of Kim and Shego ever so slightly in KiGo works to make it look like a natural progression, but I've gone against that paradigm and made what I believe to be a suitable environment for such an affair. To begin with, I've killed off Ron so that I don't have to deal with the cliche "You slept with Shego?" scene that is the ruin of many a good KiGo. It also meant that I didnt' have to break them up. I made Shego the killer to put her behind bars, and Kim is forced to ask her help on a murder investigation when Hego is killed. Kim has become emotionally detached since Ron's death, separating her personal and professional life to the degree that she has become two separate people. Some part of the old Kim remains, and Shego's primary motivation in the story is to bring out the old, emotionally driven Kim because she is the only one who ever provided Shego with a suitable challenge. This naturally leads to conflict, and during the course of a heated argument they end up kissing and giving into animal instincts. Kim takes all the anger she has felt over Ron's death and channels it into sex, and Shego returns the favor. This naturally means that the relationship is not meant to last, but Kim tries to hold onto it because she doesn't have anybody else. Eventually though, they break up and Shego disappears.

    And this isn't even getting into the murder investigation I have planned. I'm planning on making this an intense thriller, and I recommend reading it even if you're not into KiGo, because that ship is not even half of what is included. Hope you enjoy reading it now that I've explained it to you.
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    Grey_Wanderer

    [38]Jan 26, 2007
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    "The average human male has a sexual thought once every 6 seconds. "

    That's an urban legend that is ridiculous to believe.

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    beeftony

    [39]Jan 26, 2007
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    Actually that info came straight from several studies conducted by various respected institutions and reported on by CNN. I don't have the specifics right now, but I'll try and find some links.
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    Grey_Wanderer

    [40]Jan 26, 2007
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    http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/thinksex.asp

    I'm fairly certain that it's an urban legend
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