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I have seen a bunch or comics about it and I think they work quite well. I mean, lighten up guys. Also, I just realized that indeed, most of the artist behind the fanart are female, odd...
|I just can not imagine them working together they have been rivals for the length of the series.|
*sigh* "Go Team Go", "Dimension Twist", and the recently released video game for the PS2 "What's the Switch" all have Kim and Shego working together. Rather well in fact.
Some people seem to forget that (apart from the OOCness of STD) Kim and Shego don't hate each other. They are, as you said, rivals and as such they have a common respect for one another. Despite her calms Shego isn't that evil, she just seems to enjoy the evil lifestyle, and that's what 'evil' is in KP, a lifestyle. The have magazines published for them, conventions, heck even a legitimate company supplying the henchmen.
Anyway what was I going to say? Oh that's right.
While I do agree with the things Beeftony has said I think (s)he's got some facts wrong, firstly Allaine's a guy, but the fanart and fics are an even spread between male and female it's so hard to tell how many there are. I'd say that the females have equal footing.
The second point was that as much as I'd like Kigo to be 90% of the fanfiction I find that hard to believe. Kigo has a massive following and has one of the most organised femslash discussions around, but the K/R followers are bigger, they post more, and while Kigo may be growing it isn't, and never will be, a sizable threat to K/R. I don't even know why people view it as a threat, but they do.
|Just be warned, while the folks over there are generally good-natured, they take attacks on the ship personally, and they can bite back very hard. Very hard, I tell you.|
We don't bite much. We try to be very civil no matter what your opinion is. But when someone wants to stir up trouble we show them we are passionate about our views and why.
It doesn't happen often, though. I like to think we keep to ourselves and just post things for everyone to enjoy. With suitable warning messages for Kigo and lesbian pairings so people who don't want to read it can leave it in peace.
I appreciate that.
I think most people see femslash as you did before the "lust factor" left. It is (at least on ff.net) mostly as tame as any het fic with about the same chance as seeing sex in femslash fics.
I really just want to rant and rant right now about how the general though of lesbians is just wrong and any mainstream film/TV series with them in doesn't immediately convert it to soft-core (am I allowed to say that? if now can you just *bleep* that word out instead of deleting the post?).
Any who I'd like to thank you for starting this tread and being the one that keeps a level head around here.
English is not my primary language, and I'm not familiar with OOC? What does that stand for? What does that mean?
Actually, beeftony, your fic "The Silence" is something that may have turned me into write just one Kigo fic. No more, because I'm not a big fan of those stories, but your story is different. To see what I'm talking about people, read it. And I'm glad somebody in this thread bothered to give reasons to their arguments.
I'm finding it hard to grasp how they (most of the cast, not just Kim and Ron) can be more in-character in STD than the show. Surely the show is where their character comes from?
I don't actually like STD for a few reasons, the main one however is the way they used Shego. She's my favourite character and I hate seeing her degenerating to a henchwoman rather than her witty, sarcastic, "This plot couldn't possibly work" attitude, which brings her to life. They lost most of that by making Drakken have the common sense he lacks in the series to take over the world.
I don't think that the characters in the show grow and change that much. Lets face it it's a kids cartoon show, the episodes are really connected to each other and there are more than a few continuity problems. Case in point: Ron is scared of monkeys; in "Monkey Ninjas in Space" he finds them less scary to the point that having a horde of Ninja Monkeys around him at BN doesn't bother at all. Later on in the series the phobia's back. Same thing with Bonnie, they humanised her in "Bonding" to the point where she and Kim can hangout together with getting on each others nerves but when she next appears (and season 4 no doubt) she's back to being the same old meany she was before. Character growth? What's that?
It's a sad fact that some of the fanfiction can be better than the actual show.
|It's a sad fact that some of the fanfiction can be better than the actual show.|
I know my life would be different if I wouldn't have discovered this show...And I agree with you two. I've read several KP stories over at ff.net, and the thing that connects them that most of them are for a more mature audience than the show. Most of the fanfiction stories are darker and don't have the cartoonish atmosphere and humor. I think over 70% of the stories are Rated T or more...
One of the few stories I have seen that has the same kind of atmosphere than the show, and that was Kim Possible meets Metal Gear, what was written by me, and rated only K+. And it's a pretty short and fast-paced story anyway, one of the reviewers said it felt like an episode of Kim Possible.