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    mp34mp

    [21]Dec 6, 2008
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    kyfm wrote:
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    there probably wont be a finale because it looks like abc is really serious about picking up king of the hill.


    yea and a new show made by KOTH's creators but the question is when would abc air king of the hill they have a crowded lineup tgif probably never coming back i dont know where they would air it


    This is 2008, the concept of "TGIF" is a death sentence. And ABC is not going to air King of the Hill. The issue is moot.
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    mp34mp wrote:
    kyfm wrote:
    xTokiWartoothx wrote:
    there probably wont be a finale because it looks like abc is really serious about picking up king of the hill.

    yea and a new show made by KOTH's creators but the question is when would abc air king of the hill they have a crowded lineup tgif probably never coming back i dont know where they would air it

    This is 2008, the concept of "TGIF" is a death sentence. And ABC is not going to air King of the Hill. The issue is moot.

    Yeah, the deal fell through. KOTH is definitely ending in April.
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    HelloStuart wrote:
    mp34mp wrote:
    kyfm wrote:
    xTokiWartoothx wrote:
    there probably wont be a finale because it looks like abc is really serious about picking up king of the hill.

    yea and a new show made by KOTH's creators but the question is when would abc air king of the hill they have a crowded lineup tgif probably never coming back i dont know where they would air it

    This is 2008, the concept of "TGIF" is a death sentence. And ABC is not going to air King of the Hill. The issue is moot.

    Yeah, the deal fell through. KOTH is definitely ending in April.


    citation please?
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    xTokiWartoothx wrote:
    HelloStuart wrote:
    mp34mp wrote:
    kyfm wrote:
    xTokiWartoothx wrote:
    there probably wont be a finale because it looks like abc is really serious about picking up king of the hill.

    yea and a new show made by KOTH's creators but the question is when would abc air king of the hill they have a crowded lineup tgif probably never coming back i dont know where they would air it

    This is 2008, the concept of "TGIF" is a death sentence. And ABC is not going to air King of the Hill. The issue is moot.

    Yeah, the deal fell through. KOTH is definitely ending in April.

    citation please?

    For what? The official end date, or that the ABC deal never solidified?
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    [25]Dec 21, 2008
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    HelloStuart wrote:
    xTokiWartoothx wrote:
    HelloStuart wrote:
    mp34mp wrote:
    kyfm wrote:
    xTokiWartoothx wrote:
    there probably wont be a finale because it looks like abc is really serious about picking up king of the hill.

    yea and a new show made by KOTH's creators but the question is when would abc air king of the hill they have a crowded lineup tgif probably never coming back i dont know where they would air it

    This is 2008, the concept of "TGIF" is a death sentence. And ABC is not going to air King of the Hill. The issue is moot.

    Yeah, the deal fell through. KOTH is definitely ending in April.

    citation please?

    For what? The official end date, or that the ABC deal never solidified?


    for abc actually declining pickup
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    HelloStuart

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    xTokiWartoothx wrote:
    HelloStuart wrote:
    xTokiWartoothx wrote:
    HelloStuart wrote:
    mp34mp wrote:
    kyfm wrote:
    xTokiWartoothx wrote:
    there probably wont be a finale because it looks like abc is really serious about picking up king of the hill.

    yea and a new show made by KOTH's creators but the question is when would abc air king of the hill they have a crowded lineup tgif probably never coming back i dont know where they would air it

    This is 2008, the concept of "TGIF" is a death sentence. And ABC is not going to air King of the Hill. The issue is moot.

    Yeah, the deal fell through. KOTH is definitely ending in April.

    citation please?

    For what? The official end date, or that the ABC deal never solidified?

    for abc actually declining pickup

    If ABC had confirmed that it was going to pick up KOTH, there would've been a follow-up announcement. The rumor started nearly two months ago. Besides, we already have a thread on the subject.
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    Judge: Hank, I'm afraid you've been cancelled.

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    LOL! Nice One!
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    walkerdoug

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    So it is ending in April/ How many episode will we be graced with before its final appearance.
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    walkerdoug wrote:
    So it is ending in April/ How many episode will we be graced with before its final appearance.

    Judging from Fox press releases and other KOTH fan sites, we have at least nine episodes to go.
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    DOMOJITA

    [31]Feb 3, 2009
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    heres some ideas how thay could end the series

    1-dale & joseph finde out the truth

    2-bill finnaly findes some one who will make him happy and get remarried

    and thats it end of koth.
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    dissapearing

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    we need to see luanne give birth, she can't stay pregnant as long as bonnie has on family guy
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    i agree, but honestly, why do any of us even care about luanne? she has to be the one character who has no appeal on the show, excluding her jugs. the only time i even wanted to see her on screen was after she got with lucky just so hed show up.
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    xTokiWartoothx wrote:
    i agree, but honestly, why do any of us even care about luanne? she has to be the one character who has no appeal on the show, excluding her jugs. the only time i even wanted to see her on screen was after she got with lucky just so hed show up.


    She's the only character on the show that has had a real progressive arc. When the show debuted in 1997, she was in beauty school, having just escaped from her feuding parents' trailer home. The following year, after her mother was released from jail and came for a visit, she realized she was better off living with the Hills, that and because her trailer was destroyed in the tornado. In order to keep a sunnier outlook on life, Luanne took up a part-time hobby as a Christian puppeteer.

    Following the unexpected death of Buckley and the temporary loss of her hair, both from the Mega-Lo Mart explosion, she was visited by him one final time, via his angel, to allow her to move forward with her life, perhaps to better things. So, she began attending Arlen Community College. Some time later, to assert her newfound independence, she moved into a new home.

    College life was proven to be slow, so Luanne drifted back to her original vocation, and gained a beauty styling license, where after a brief stint at Hottyz, she found her new day job at Jack's Barbershop. This was also the same time she decided to move back in with the Hills to save some money, Shortly afterwards, Luanne met one of Khan's brief acquaintances, Lucky (real name Elroy), who despite his noticable age difference, proved to be far more compatible than any other boyfriend she had up to then. Soon came the announcement that she was pregnant, where she and Lucky were wed.

    As a final piece of her history on the series, she met up with her dad for the first time in years, though despite her being spared the truth about his fate, it once again reaffirmed the strong family she had with Elroy and the Hills.

    What other character on the show has this kind of history?

    Let's see:

    -Hank is still the assistant manager of Strickland Propane and traditionalist family man. On the side, he discovered that he was born in New York City and he has a half-brother in Japan. He tried to have a second baby with Peggy, but to no avail due to his narrow urethra.

    -Peggy has gone from substitute Spanish teacher, to unsuccessful full-time teacher, to newspaper journalist, to a real estate agent, all of which have proven to be failures. She's still on bad terms with her mother.

    -Bobby wanted to be a prop comic, and was once dating Connie. Both have been undone, and he has been stuck at age 13 for almost nine years. -Joseph went thru puberty, but not much else.

    -Connie is still the straight-A student we were introduced to from the start, and still looking towards the best college available.

    -Dale is still the conspiracy theorist we all love (or hate), recently minus his Rusty Shakelford alias.

    -Nancy had a long-going affair with John Redcorn, but after some time, relegitimized her marriage with Dale, thus breaking up with John. She started as a weather woman, now is a top news anchor at Channel 84.

    -Boomhauer has changed little, if at all.

    -Bill has a miserable history, and had a bout with suicide and psychosis. But it was fashioned so that he's "used" to being treated like crap, which effectively prevents any character development from his end.

    -Buck Strickland is still the crooked businessman. His marriage to Liz has been tested a couple times. -Donna is Strickland Propane's accountant, in place of the deceased Debbie, but every bit as aggressive. Despite coming in several seasons ago, only has one recent episode focusing on her.

    -Enrique is the "live-for-today" employee of Strickland. Again, only recently have they done any episodes focused on him despite being there for a long time.

    -Not much involving Joe Jack.

    -Kahn is still the elitist Asian in the neighborhood, rivaling only Ted Wassanasong.

    -Minh is also elitist, but has learned to make better friends with her neighbors.

    -Lucky started out as Kahn's acquaintance during his foray into the trailer trash lifestyle. He met Luanne, married her, and is now preparing to be a father.

    -Cotton was the aggressive WWII veteran who remarried to Hank's former classmate, Didi, and had a second son, Good Hank. Both have disappeared years ago without a trace. Cotton made peace with Japan from the war years, and lost all of his friends over a period of time. Cotton himself died in 2007.

    -Ladybird hasn't changed much, other than her becoming deaf last season.

    Some development for a few characters, but most haven't had any real character development without the formulaic storytelling the show has suffered over the past several years. Any new story they do involving Tom Landry Middle School is no longer funny, because it's expected that Bobby, and sometimes Joseph and Connie will be back to square one by the time another Tom Landry episode is done. Same goes for the characters they pay little attention to anymore, including Kahn and Minh. The show is creatively dead, because it's practically stuck in time.

    The appeal in Luanne is not just because she's attractive, but because she's the only character that has significantly moved forward since the beginning. You're only going to go so far sticking with the same old thing, yet much of what has broadened her character has been ignored in favor of stale storytelling for years and years.
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    dissapearing wrote:
    we need to see luanne give birth, she can't stay pregnant as long as bonnie has on family guy

    Two more days!
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    Semaj86 wrote:
    xTokiWartoothx wrote:
    i agree, but honestly, why do any of us even care about luanne? she has to be the one character who has no appeal on the show, excluding her jugs. the only time i even wanted to see her on screen was after she got with lucky just so hed show up.
    She's the only character on the show that has had a real progressive arc. When the show debuted in 1997, she was in beauty school, having just escaped from her feuding parents' trailer home. The following year, after her mother was released from jail and came for a visit, she realized she was better off living with the Hills, that and because her trailer was destroyed in the tornado. In order to keep a sunnier outlook on life, Luanne took up a part-time hobby as a Christian puppeteer. Following the unexpected death of Buckley and the temporary loss of her hair, both from the Mega-Lo Mart explosion, she was visited by him one final time, via his angel, to allow her to move forward with her life, perhaps to better things. So, she began attending Arlen Community College. Some time later, to assert her newfound independence, she moved into a new home. College life was proven to be slow, so Luanne drifted back to her original vocation, and gained a beauty styling license, where after a brief stint at Hottyz, she found her new day job at Jack's Barbershop. This was also the same time she decided to move back in with the Hills to save some money, Shortly afterwards, Luanne met one of Khan's brief acquaintances, Lucky (real name Elroy), who despite his noticable age difference, proved to be far more compatible than any other boyfriend she had up to then. Soon came the announcement that she was pregnant, where she and Lucky were wed. As a final piece of her history on the series, she met up with her dad for the first time in years, though despite her being spared the truth about his fate, it once again reaffirmed the strong family she had with Elroy and the Hills. What other character on the show has this kind of history? Let's see: -Hank is still the assistant manager of Strickland Propane and traditionalist family man. On the side, he discovered that he was born in New York City and he has a half-brother in Japan. He tried to have a second baby with Peggy, but to no avail due to his narrow urethra. -Peggy has gone from substitute Spanish teacher, to unsuccessful full-time teacher, to newspaper journalist, to a real estate agent, all of which have proven to be failures. She's still on bad terms with her mother. -Bobby wanted to be a prop comic, and was once dating Connie. Both have been undone, and he has been stuck at age 13 for almost nine years. -Joseph went thru puberty, but not much else. -Connie is still the straight-A student we were introduced to from the start, and still looking towards the best college available. -Dale is still the conspiracy theorist we all love (or hate), recently minus his Rusty Shakelford alias. -Nancy had a long-going affair with John Redcorn, but after some time, relegitimized her marriage with Dale, thus breaking up with John. She started as a weather woman, now is a top news anchor at Channel 84. -Boomhauer has changed little, if at all. -Bill has a miserable history, and had a bout with suicide and psychosis. But it was fashioned so that he's "used" to being treated like crap, which effectively prevents any character development from his end. -Buck Strickland is still the crooked businessman. His marriage to Liz has been tested a couple times. -Donna is Strickland Propane's accountant, in place of the deceased Debbie, but every bit as aggressive. Despite coming in several seasons ago, only has one recent episode focusing on her. -Enrique is the "live-for-today" employee of Strickland. Again, only recently have they done any episodes focused on him despite being there for a long time. -Not much involving Joe Jack. -Kahn is still the elitist Asian in the neighborhood, rivaling only Ted Wassanasong. -Minh is also elitist, but has learned to make better friends with her neighbors. -Lucky started out as Kahn's acquaintance during his foray into the trailer trash lifestyle. He met Luanne, married her, and is now preparing to be a father. -Cotton was the aggressive WWII veteran who remarried to Hank's former classmate, Didi, and had a second son, Good Hank. Both have disappeared years ago without a trace. Cotton made peace with Japan from the war years, and lost all of his friends over a period of time. Cotton himself died in 2007. -Ladybird hasn't changed much, other than her becoming deaf last season. Some development for a few characters, but most haven't had any real character development without the formulaic storytelling the show has suffered over the past several years. Any new story they do involving Tom Landry Middle School is no longer funny, because it's expected that Bobby, and sometimes Joseph and Connie will be back to square one by the time another Tom Landry episode is done. Same goes for the characters they pay little attention to anymore, including Kahn and Minh. The show is creatively dead, because it's practically stuck in time. The appeal in Luanne is not just because she's attractive, but because she's the only character that has significantly moved forward since the beginning. You're only going to go so far sticking with the same old thing, yet much of what has broadened her character has been ignored in favor of stale storytelling for years and years.

    Nope, it's the boobies, try again...

    Codeguru

    PS- If King of the Hill can get the hell off FOX and get picked up by a real network for more seasons while adult swim is running reruns that would be ideal. Turner broadcasting is now almost singlehandedly responsible for ressurecting two cartoon series from the dead, and this means King of the Hill doesn't even have to die.

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    Codeguru wrote:
    Nope, it's the boobies, try again...

    Codeguru



    My point was, other than such an external factor as Brittany Murphy's movie career during Seasons 5 thru 8, there was plenty more potential in Luanne's arc than Bobby being too fruity or other less interesting stories the writers seemed to prefer.
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    Codeguru wrote:
    Nope, it's the boobies, try again...


    Correct, it is the boobies, at least from what I've read on here. I find Luanne annoying, actually. She has a horrible voice, dumb as dirt and has that awful 1980s "Married With Children" Peggy Bundy hairdo. I could never get past all that stuff to enjoy her large boobs.
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    Codeguru wrote:
    If King of the Hill can get the hell off FOX and get picked up by a real network for more seasons while adult swim is running reruns that would be ideal. Turner broadcasting is now almost singlehandedly responsible for ressurecting two cartoon series from the dead, and this means King of the Hill doesn't even have to die.

    TBS "rescued" Family Guy and Futurama because they were two shows that never found a sizable audience but still had a devoted following. It didn't make any sense for Fox at the time to air two shows that nobody was watching and couldn't build commercial revenue. Even so, Family Guy and Futurama are the only two exceptions to the rule; you don't see anybody trying to bring back "The PJs" or "The Oblongs," do you? KOTH had its moment in the sun, and it was even in the Nielsen Top 50 for a couple of years, but it's time to let go. It's like asking a doctor to let a 90-year-old woman with organ failure to live another ten years.

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    It's understandable that many don't want to see Bobby hit puberty or for Dale to find out the truth about Nancy and John Redcorn. But I still think they should just go ahead and let them occur in the finale (if not before). Remember, the show despite being animated was always meant to retain at least some sort of realism. Bobby had 2 birthdays before staying 13 for a long, long time. Let him reach puberty (btw Pamela Adlon could probably still voice him older) for the ending. As for Dale, I personally think it's time for him to know about the affair. He already got one of Bill's girlfriends to start sleeping with Redcorn (which actually made me dislike Dale a bit). I was hoping Bill would have told Dale then. I've wanted Dale to find out for awhile. He'll always love Joseph, so that shouldn't be a problem. But I think the joke has lasted long enough. Let's let Dale find out the truth. The show's ending anyway. Just my opinion.

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