I like this show! I don't see a lot of gratuitous humor/comedy. There is always some lesson associated with the bits. The show could use a few character tweaks but luckily the gaffs are not that numerous. Tim Allen's character is portrayed as a Conservative but the show gives equal weight to the other side to create a balance of opinion.
Hector Elizondo deserves an award for his very nuanced "Ed Alzate"
I quit watching this back when Season 2 originally aired. I simply could not stand Amanda Fuller as Kristen. My husband decided to start watching it on Netflix recently so I decided to give it another try with him. What a mistake!
The not so new Kristen played by Amanda Fuller is still awful but sadly now the character of Eve has been written into an arrogant, manipulative teen who displays terrible sportsmanship. Of all three daughters self absorbed Mandy shows the most heart with random acts of kindness and consistent defense of her sisters. Add in a few seasons of a completely undisciplined, spoiled Boyd brat and the show went from an enjoyable diversion in Season 1 to being nearly unbearable.
They ruined this show with a terrible replacement for Kristen and by turning part of the cast into awful people (Eve, Bratty Boyd, Kristen).
The old Kristen was delightful, full of energy, just perfect! Now we have to suffer through a blonde, dumpy person with no personality, and she moves and acts likes she's 75 years old! Kyle would never have be n interested in dating the new Kristen! Please bring back the old Kristin or at least get someone who can act and have some personality. And send Ryan back to Canada! The rest of the show is wonderful!
I was just getting into this show following a very awkward first show in season one, then this - new characters and a discussion on politics.
I would have been happier if they wrote Kristen out, but replace her with someone old enough to be her mother and with very weak acting to boot. It seems that these new characters just don't want to be there. Fail.
One show out of 1000 that make fun of the Left and the Left Wing wackos go well wacko. There are many shows that fit into your low information world so watch them in your onesies and enjoy them. You don't have to watch the ones you don't. At least for now if the Left make any more gains you won't have a choice. At least LMS offer both sides something you rarely see is shows that push the Left point of view. To read some posts their seem to be those that believe this show was developed just because of the elections. It is just another example of the intolerance of the Left. One show in 1000 gives a point of views that does not fit into their world and they attack and call names. As if this is the only show that has a political or religious part to the story line. The fact that almost every new show has a lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender in them is not political? That so many push the Left Wing views on the environment is not both political and religious? Yes the environment movement has become a religion for many. This is not only a very funny show with good acting overall that tells a truth that you don't see often on TV. The fact that ABC, a network not known for its honest programs is a surprise. Now if they would just bring their news inline. There seem to be a lot who dislike the anti-Obama jokes. You should not disrespect the president. Funny I don't remember these people saying that during the Bush's and Reagan's years. Again the Left seem to have two set of rules.
I really enjoy the show. Tim Allen is hilarious. But I just can't get past Kristen & Ryan. Ryan is beyond annoying & his constant whining & arguing with Mike just bothers me. I loved Season 1 Kristen but after they recast her I just don't like the new Kristen as much.
I love Tim Allen's comedy & season 1 was a blast. There was a lot of chemistry between the actors & the plot was well-knit. However, after recasting Kristen & Ryan, watching the show is a pain whenever their obnoxious ideas are conveyed! Seriously? Grow up & parent properly!! Less of them would enhance the show!
I agree with what most of the people say. I do not like the new Kristen. She does suck at acting, most especially with hand and arm movements. She annoys the crap out of me. And her wimpy future husband too. They should move to another area and live with other wimpy characters. Regardless of creative intentions, bring back the old Kristen back. This show is great... Let's keep it going and bring back the authenticity of it. Get rid of this cheesy arm-moving, over-exaggerated chick. been a 9.5 if it were the original rest is awesome. 7.5 it is
I gave the show a 7, good only because of the first season. The first season was good, I was really getting into the show. Now. Now I'm not sure if I even want to keep watching. The recast of Kristin was a completely stupid idea, it Destroyed! the show!
I understand why the kid Boyd's dad is a different actor because Nick Jonas wouldn't be available to do that many episodes. But season one to season two, that is ONE season, one episode difference, one summer, NOT THREE YEARS, the new actor for Boyd is now 5 or 6, not three like he is supposed to be because just a couple episodes ago he was two and a half years old.
The new Kristin is NOT anyythingg like the original and good Kristin, she can't even act well or get close to the original personality. Now she is just some annoying, hoe-ish, hipster, wimpy coddling thing that won't stop showing up, and the new dad is even worse. It only took less than 5 minutes of the first episode of season two to be pretty close to unbearable. If they bring the original cast of Kristin, Boyd, and Ryan or an actor who did as well as Nick Jonas for the part then the show will be good again, or if they just get rid of the characters entirely by saying they moved away, that would also help. Everyone else works well with the movie, except those three, plus Kristin and Ryan are also way older than the original characters and than they are supposed to be playing. Yes, the new Kristin has a good body, but so what? They ruin the show. Bring back the originals.
Why encourage their kind of attitude and personalities? So you want all the people and new children in the world to be ignorant stupid wimps that don't even know how to play simple children games like musical chairs and dodge ball???? Stuff like that is part of the reason why society is getting worse, "we don't use terms like that here", phrases like that are getting used way too much nowadays especially at schools and such for kids, it's complete nonsense. For one, that just makes the children even more ignorant and two, really?? we can use whatever damn terms we want with our children, and schools should be using the same terms and such as they did even 5 or so years ago. Really? We don't use the word Champ? Seriously?! What is this world coming to? I can go on but this is long enough.
JUST BRING BACK THE ORIGINAL ACTORS FOR THE PARTS AND STOP DESTROYING THE SHOW WITH THIS ANNOYING PATHETICNESS. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A FUNNY SHOW.
Why on earth is Ryan's character still relevant in this show? Too many annoying appearances from him... I cannot stand his character. his views are exaggerated and borderline annoying!!He is ruining the show for me. It is unrealistic that the parents would even allow the oldest daughter near this looser... and the part where he wants to get married under a tree and they give him a cheque which he says they intend to use to pay off his student loans?/ you kidding me? this is not a love story,,, its a damn story... Honestly he is ruining the show... a comedy should make me laugh not annoy me. I can stand the political stuff but not annoying ryan.... he needs to be gone!!
The first season's cast was perfect. Are they changed out the oldest sister and brought I her piece of crap boyfriend, it took a lot away from the show. Episodes with no appearances by those two are the best ones. The addition of the maid was great though, because she is hilarious.
This show used to be great, and it still has its good moments here and there, but has really gone down hill since season 2.
Kristin and Ryan are pretty unbearable to watch. The original Kristin was much more believable as a teen parent, and dealt with the written in conflicts in a far more believable way. The new Kristin not only looks like she's about 35 and acts as such, too , but her entire attitude is mind-numbing to watch. The character of Ryan is 100% unbelievable, as well.
Mandy, Kyle and Eve, on the other hand, are much more believable characters, and they execute their roles extremely well. I also enjoy the dynamic between Ed and Mike, and Mike and Vanessa. It's too bad that this show has gone so off the rails with political stereotypes.
Absolutely fantastic show. Tim Allen is a master at being politically honest with it's viewers, while occassionally giving the 'other' sides viewpoint to boot. Comedic master Allen has the right chemisty with his Post Home Improvement famliy. i know many others are cringing at some of the character swaps, but I started watch after that. I went back and watched the first few years and like this ensemble the best. Allen gets it right with great American values, political digs on both sides and the great american dream. Kudos and fair shake for a long shelf life. May you have 10 more years :)
Every time Kristin 2 and her spineless boyfriend Ryan come on the scene, it is a cringefest! The original Kristin in Season 1 was an amazing fit. Cannot believe that some crazy nutjob decide to recast her. It's truly a pity since every other character seem like they belong, even if they are not stellar. Also, inspite of being a HUGE Tim Allen fan from pretty much every other thing he has done, I find his narcissism in the show a little obnoxious.
I have no clue how the show is still on the air since it is pretty unwatchable now - the best characters in the show are Mandy and Kyle - hope they land on their feet when this show inevitably gets canceled or if we are cherishing impossible thoughts, I am hoping they come to their senses and bring back the original Kristin and tone down the self-righteousness of the show.
Love Tim Allen, but I'm SICK and Tired of the preoccupation with Obama-bashing. This is supposed to be a "family" sit-com. Send the writers back to Fox News and get writers to joke about people, not agendas. Besides, just to offer one counterpoint to the most recent episode (11/14/14), 10,000,000 people now have Health Insurance who previously couldn't AFFORD it, and 55% of currently uninsured plan to get it. The dialogue Friday night was completely fact-free and driven by the GOP and Tea-Party rhetoric.
A comedy with a change of pace -- not the typical liberal-loving rubbish. Absolutely hilarious. My family and I look forward to this show every week! The best show on TV -- even better than Monday Night Football -- well, almost.
First off i hate the cast changes. Alexandra Crosney was such a likeable actress and her replacement is almost unwatchable. I don't mind politics in shows because there something almost everyone can get behind and understand, but in this show it's so one sided. I'm very republican and it drives me crazy how Tim Allens character will make a point that I find reasonable and the rest of the episode is an attempt to prove him wrong and make him seem like hes crazy. I would be completely fine if half the cast was republican and half was democratic and the jabs at each other were even but all this show does is make me angry. i loved the first season and im so sad they changed the dynamic of the show. Instill love Tim Allen to death and hes still one of my favorite TV dads.
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