Lizzie McGuire

Season 2 Episode 19

She Said, He Said, She Said

Aired Unknown Nov 22, 2002 on Disney Channel
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She Said, He Said, She Said
A major food fight is raging in the cafeteria. Lizzie, Gordo and Miranda try to stay on the sidelines until Lizzie gets hit squarely with a meatball. In anger she grabs another one herself, cocks her arm and yells "Who threw that?!?!" Unfortunately, that's the moment when Principal Tweedy walks in the door. He sees Lizzie, Kate Sanders and Larry Tudgeman right in the middle of things and calls them to his office. For punishment, the three will have to clean up the huge mess and do some community service, but they can ease their punishment if they write out an account of what happened and name the person responsible for starting the food fight. Stuck together working, the trio each tell their own version of how the fight started, shown in flashbacks. In Kate's account, she arrives at school greeted like the queen she thinks she is. She's kind and caring to all her subjects and everyone loves her, including Lizzie, Miranda and Gordo, who are dying to be her friend again. Larry's version pictures him looking like Keanu Reeves in The Matrix (with shades and leather jacket, but still the same shirt!) The super-cool dude arrives early to work on a math theorem "disproving infinity;" and during the food fight, he deftly avoids all the flying food with his nimble moves. Lizze, Gordo and Miranda are in awe of him. Kate and Larry both try to team up with Lizzie in blaming the third person for the mess so they can get out of punishment, and then Lizzie realizes the two of them are going to gang up against her. She tells her version of what happened, which is a lot closer to reality, except that in her story before she leaves home she has to endure her parents' favoritism to her brother Matt. Lizzie realizes that all three of their stories have something in common--they all had some interaction with another student named Gustav, who accidentally upset a tray of food and inadvertently started the food fight. She also tells the other two that while none of them were responsible for starting the fight, none of them did anything to discourage it, either. When Principal Tweedy comes into the clean cafeteria later that afternoon, he finds only a written statement from Lizzie, telling him that while they didn't start the fight, they're not going to blame anyone else. Meanwhile, Matt and Lanny are goofing around on the way to the bus after a field trip to the museum, and they end up missing their ride back to school. Matt's in a panic at first, but Lanny convinces him (without a word, as usual!) that it's not their fault and they end up enjoying the day, running around downtown having all sorts of fun. But who should spot them while they're out--Matt's parents!moreless

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  • Surprisingly Complex For A ‘Filler’ Episode.

    One is struck by the undercurrents in this supposedly ‘lightweight’ episode. Lizzie’s quote to Gordo and Miranda that there’s more to Kate and Larry than meets the eye is perhaps as good of a way to describe the episode itself, due to the groundswell tapped throughout this episode.

    While on the surface nothing more than a conventional ‘fun’ episode, this episode actually ends up slightly enhancing some long standing plot threads. No one is the focus of this one; it revolves around the cast of Lizzie, Larry, and Kate. And as a consequence it fleshes out Larry and Kate’s characters to a degree not seen in a while. Instead of bit players, the story really dwells upon them as people. In doing so we get to know more about Larry and Kate, which is always a good thing.

    However, before the explorations of their characters in this episode are discussed one thing needs to be said. The first thing one notices in watching this is that Ashlie Brillault, the actress who plays Kate, looks somewhat ‘puffy’ in the face. Whether she’s gained weight, or it’s just an optical illusion created by the turtleneck sweater she’s wearing, I don’t know. Fashion Note To Kate: Don’t wear turtleneck sweaters!

    Now, back to Larry and Kate. Larry has a lot more ‘bite’ to him in this episode, especially in the way he stands up for himself to Kate. Whereas in times past he would have just taken the insults thrown his way and sulked about it, he fights back here. And in doing so some telling things are revealed about Kate.

    At one point Larry lashes out at Kate that maybe she’d have more friends if she were more considerate. With Kate responding that everyone loves her and wants to be her. She makes this claim, that everyone likes her, no less than twice during this episode. Once verbally, and another in the hallways of her own mind. And in such ways that it sounds more like she’s trying to convince herself than anybody else.

    So much is made of Kate’s not being liked, and of her thinking/wishing herself liked in this episode that one comes away with the feeling that this is an important subject to Kate. Larry very pointedly remarks upon the fact that she isn’t liked. And Kate, just at pointedly, tries to assert that she is in fact liked. Repeatedly. This seems to be an issue that the producers of the show want to get across, and goes hand in hand with the long-standing plot thread concerning the “redemption” of Kate.

    Not only is Kate’s longing for true friendship touched upon, but Larry’s self image is on display as well. Larry sees himself as a super smart, super cool, chick magnet. And in the course of this we see his occasionally antagonist role come to the surface again by way of his actually contemplating blaming Lizzie for starting the food fight even though she didn’t do it. This after her standing up for, and praising, him earlier!

    Also notice the subtle touching upon of the long-standing thread of his attraction to Miranda. In his version of events, the girls are all swooning over him, Miranda especially. Miranda’s rash on her arm turns into a blinking animated heart shape in his version of events as she sighs over him.

    The episode really belongs to Kate and Larry. They both are humanized to a greater degree here. Lizzie is just sort of along for the ride, and takes a backseat. As for Gordo and Miranda, most of their screen time is dedicated to flashback sequences in the various interpretations of the events leading up to the food fight.

    There is a moral to this episode, and while the message is good, the context appears to make it seem a little weak. Feeling bad morally for not stopping a food fight? How is one not living up to their moral obligation by not stopping a *food* fight? If it were a real fight, like a brawl, I could understand the self-chastisement. But a *food* fight? A food fight isn’t a real fight. No one gets hurt. It’s a food fight for crying out loud. Inconsequential. So to feel bad over not stopping it seems a bit much to me. What is there to feel bad *for*?

    And speaking of food fights, the classic “Food Fight” is a standard sit-com staple. In fact, it goes back to before television. Who can forget the masters of the food fight? None other than the Three Stooges? “Woob, Woob, Woob, Woob, Woob, Woob, Woob. Nyuk! Nuyk! Nyuk!”

    As for the subplot, it’s a good one. Matt and Lanny miss the bus back to school from a field trip and then let fate decide whether they should do the “responsible thing” or take the day off “Ferris Bueller” style. It’s interesting to note that it’s Lanny who suggests they let a coin flip decide it as opposed to doing the “responsible thing” right off the bat as it looked Matt was about to do.

    Matt and Lanny spending a day around town is fun to watch. But one has to wonder how they could not only pay for ice cream, but also afford tickets to a baseball game. Baseball tickets are not cheap! Just how much spending money *do* Sam and Jo give Matt to go to school anyway?

    Overall, this episode combines a main plot that is strangely complex for a ‘filler’ episode with an airy little ditty of a subplot. Not bad, but a little odd to categorize. But worth watching if for no other reason than the expounding of Larry and Kate’s characters.moreless
Christian Copelin

Christian Copelin

Lanny Onasis

Guest Star

Phill Lewis

Phill Lewis

Principal Tweedy

Guest Star

Marissa Leigh

Marissa Leigh

Kid #1

Guest Star

Ashlie Brillault

Ashlie Brillault

Kate Sanders

Recurring Role

Kyle J. Downes

Kyle J. Downes

Larry Tudgeman

Recurring Role

Trivia, Notes, Quotes and Allusions


  • TRIVIA (10)

    • Algebra vs. Calculus: While Tudgeman calls it an "algebra lab", which is appropriate for jr. high, the chalkboard is filled with integral symbols, a standard symbol in calculus but not algebra.

    • Nitpick: The field trip chaperones always need to take attendance when on field trips. Matt and Lanny couldn't have possibly been left behind IF they did take attendance, which obviously they didn't.

    • Before Matt picks up the penny, he has a smudge of ice cream by his lip (his left side, our right side). After he picks it up, it's gone.

    • The food and the stains on the actors' clothes keep moving to different locations from shot to shot. No doubt the food was falling off and was re-applied in between takes. For example, when Lizzie is telling her version of how the food fight got started, when she is hit with food (which looks like some kind of chili) it hits her on her neck/chest, which is open because of the shirt. But in the next scene, there is no trace of food ever hitting her there! She would at least have a stain of some kind on her skin.

    • Lizzie is missing an earring in one of the scenes where she, Kate and Larry talk to Principal Tweedy, but a few scenes later she's wearing one. (Maybe she lost it in the food fight?)

    • When Lizzie, Miranda and Gordo are huddled under the lunch table during the food fight, Lizzie says she's going to go try to find "a way out," ignoring the set of doors that are directly behind them!

    • When Lizzie, Larry and Kate re-enter the cafeteria with Pricipal Tweedy to begin cleaning, the paper towels under Lizzie's left arm shift to her right, then back to her left again.

    • When Kate accuses Lizzie of not trying to clear herself, Lizzie responds that she attempted to but was interrupted by Kate. But we never saw Lizzie try to clear her name before.

    • Goof: In "Come Fly with Me" Matt said that Lanny would only eat pumpkin ice cream, but here he eats an ice-cream sandwich with what appears to be vanilla ice cream.

    • Closed-captioning goofs: Even though Kate's last name is pronounced Sanders with the short "a" sound this time, it's spelled out "Saunders." Also the words "algebra lab" are spelled "algebrlaab."

  • QUOTES (12)

    • Matt: There goes our ride. How are we supposed to get home?

    • (Lizzie gets fed up with Matt and tells her mother)
      Lizzie's Mom: Oh, I'm sorry. We just like him better!

    • (Kate says Lizzie didn't explain her side of the story)
      Lizzie: I did so until you rudely interrupted me!

    • Miranda: Tudgeman must have figured out something brilliant again!
      Lizzie: If only he were my boyfriend. I'd be the luckiest girl in all the land...
      Gordo: That guy's got it made. Brains... brawn... babes...

    • Neo!Tudgeman: That's it. I've done it. I've disproved infinity. I have to tell the world.

    • Larry: I arrived at school at 6:00 to do work at the algebra lab.
      Kate: We have an algebra lab?
      Lizze: The school's open before 7:00?

    • (Lizzie's letter to Principal Tweedy)
      Lizzie: "Dear Principal Tweedy, Earlier you asked us who started the food fight. And the truth is, none of us did. But we all could've stopped it. We may all hang out with different people. I mean, we all may be, a Kate, a Larry, and a Lizzie. But the thing we should have had in common today, was the courage to stand up and stop the food fight. So, to answer your question, it doesn't matter who started it, because we are all responsible. So we cleaned up the cafeteria together.
      Signed, The Lunch Bunch."

    • Miranda: I still can't believe you had to spend the whole afternoon with Kate an...and Tudgeman!
      Gordo: Now that punishment really was cruel and unusual.
      Lizzie: Actually, it wasn't that bad.
      Gordo: A trip to the dentist isn't that bad. The kind of music your parents listen to isn't that bad. But what you had to do--now, that was bad.

    • Toon Lizzie: All this backstabbing and conspiring could prepare me for a career in politics. Cool!

    • Larry: ...people like me, I got singled out for doing great deeds, for making great discoveries.
      Kate: There's this thing called soap; maybe you haven't 'discovered' it yet!

    • Kate: It was a day like any other day. It was perfect because, it is me!

    • Matt: Field trips are awesome! I mean, not only do we get to spend time outside, but we get to miss school, and the teachers, they think we actually learn something!

  • NOTES (8)

    • When Kate says, "I mean just look at him [Larry]" while trying to convince Lizzie to write Larry's name down, this resembles a line from the 1995 movie Heavyweights. During the course of the movie, Pat (played by Tom McGowan) and his fellow colleagues are trying to find out ways to get Tony Perkis (Ben Stiller) arrested for mistreating the children of the camp by way of verbal abuse, exercising, and humiliation. At this point Pat says, "Tony's the hard evidence! Just take one look at him!"

    • More evidence as to where the McGuires live: When Jo says that she saw a boy that looked like Matt at the parade and it flashes to a photograph of him on top of one of the floats, you can see in the background a flag for the Rose Bowl (A football stadium located in the Los Angeles area).

    • When Matt and Lanny are first shown at the museum, a sign over their heads advertises the "Gould Collection." The show's supervising producer Melissa Gould wrote the screenplay for this episode.

    • A major piece of evidence as to where Lizzie lives: When a still photo of Lanny and Matt at the baseball game is shown, they're outside of Dodger Stadium, home of the Los Angeles Dodgers. The boys are also shown sitting in the Pavillion (the bleachers) at Dodger Stadium. It seems safe to conclude, then, that the McGuires live in the metropolitan Los Angeles area.

    • There is a bottle of Cardio Punch in the McGuire's refrigerator when Matt opens it. That's the drink Matt was a spokesperson for in "Party Over Here."

    • Continuity: Lizzie tells Larry that there are things people notice about him, saying that he will pretty much eat anything. This is a reference to "Election," in which Larry, running for school president, eats a worm for every vote pledged to him.

    • There are a lot of movie references, similarities and tributes in this episode, especially to a couple of John Hughes-directed teen classics, The Breakfast Club (1985) and Ferris Bueller's Day Off (1986). The scenes of Lizzie, Kate and Larry spending the day together in punishment are reminiscent of The Breakfast Club, and the end scene where Principal Tweedy reads Lizzie's message is a direct, intentional copy from the film (Lizzie signs her paper "The Lunch Bunch"), even down to using the same music. Matt and Lanny's out-of-school adventure is very similar to action in Ferris Bueller..., right down to the baseball game and the parade the boys went to.
      In addition, Tudgeman imagines himself as Keanu Reeves' character from the 1999 movie The Matrix. Also, there's a dose of John Nash, the character Russell Crowe played in A Beautiful Mind (2001), mixed in with Tudgeman, as he imagines he sees symbols that help him "disprove infinity." The episode's title may well have been taken from the 1991 movie He Said, She Said (1991) starring Kevin Bacon and Elizabeth Perkins. And whether it's intended that way or not, movies with flashbacks of the same event as related by different persons are often compared to the the 1950 Japanese movie Rashoman by the acclaimed director Akira Kurosawa. And there's always the food fight in National Lampoon's Animal House (1978)!

    • Music includes the songs:
      *"Bread and Butter" by the Newbeats, heard during the opening food fight. This was a big hit for the Nashville-based pop vocal trio which featured the falsetto vocals of lead singer Larry Henley, reaching #2 on the charts in 1964.
      *"Downtown" by Petula Clark, heard while Matt and Lanny are enjoying themselves downtown, naturally. Clark was the top female singer from Britain during the 1960's and the Beatle-led "British invasion." "Downtown" was a #1 smash hit on both sides of the Atlantic in 1964, the first single by an English woman to top the U.S. charts. The version heard here is a much later "acid-house" remix from the 1980's.
      *"Don't You (Forget About Me)" by Simple Minds, a Glasgow, Scotland rock group whose greatest popularity came in the 1980's. This was their biggest hit, reaching #1 in America. It was prominently used in the 1985 movie The Breakfast Club in a scene very similar to the one that's seen here, when the school principal is reading Lizzie's note. (Yes, it's the "la-la-la-la" song.)


    • Lizzie, Kate and Larry: ...we may be...a Kate...a Larry...and a Lizzie...
      It's been noted above that there are a lot of similaries to the 1985 movie The Breakfast Club in this episode, and this line is one of them. In the movie, Anthony Michael Hall's character writes a letter which the principal reads after the students have left, just like in this episode. His voice is heard reading it out loud, and one of the things he says is, "But what we found out is that each one of us is a brain, and an athlete, and a basket case, a princess, and a criminal," with all of the other actors reading their own little descriptions of themselves (Hall is the brain, Emilio Estevez is the athlete, Ally Sheedy is the basket case, Molly Ringwald is the princess and Judd Nelson is the criminal.)