Lost

Season 2 Episode 18

Dave

7
Aired Sunday 9:00 PM Apr 05, 2006 on ABC
8.9
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Hurley begins to experience hallucinations of his friend Dave (guest-star Evan Handler) from his past in a mental hospital. Meanwhile, with the truth revealed about Henry Gale, the survivors face the decision of what to do next.

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  • Talk about a giant step back

    6.0
    At least once a season, there comes a point where the writers of Lost seem to go on their own vacation and try and fill time until the countdown till the final season begins. 'Dave' would seem to be one of those episodes, but there are a couple of points that may prove valid to the series as a whole, as well as a couple of loose ends that the writers of the series are never going to wrap up.



    The episode is centered around at what was one of the early theories of what the island is--- that it was a hallucination of one of the characters. We know now that Hurley spent some time in a metal institution, and he is probably the most popular guy on the island. Are the [people an extension of his personality? Or is there another reason that he hasn't lost any weight on this island? We've known that he has been holding on to a stash of food, and when he finally confesses his sin to Libby (we'll get to her in a minute), her reaction is not one of someone who's been eating mangoes and fish for two months. Rather she encourages him to destroy it, This leads to the appearance of someone who makes Hurley very nervous.



    The person he sees is Dave, obviously, and he was one of the people who he knew from Santa ROsa. We learn that he was nearly catatonic after an incident where he stepped on an overcrowded, causing it to collapse and two people to die. He has blamed himself and that is why he hasn't changed. Dave was a manifestation of his personality--- the part that didn't want him to get better. When he realized this, he managed a breakthrough, and things got better--- for a while.



    Now Dave is back, and his telling him this same hallucination theory. He adds the fact that the numbers are still recurring everywhere, we've been seeing them around a lot, including with the Dharma Initiative, and now he convinces Hurley that this is cycle that he has to break. Hurley then tries to find a way to break this theory.



    Here's a more pertinent question, because it's never been asked, if Dave is hallucination, why is Hurley seeing him now after all this time? Does he think that his eating is putting people at risk somehow? More interestingly, what if Dave is one of the first indication that the island is 'talking' to him? In later seasons, Hurley will show evidence of being able to tap into a vital force of the island (I won't go into details) and even when he is off the island, he will continue to see people who can't reasonably be there. Is it possible that Hurley, like Locke and Eko has some kind of communion with the island, and that it is trying to test him? Perhaps the island feels that Locke is not quite passing the trials, given his attitude of the past few weeks, and maybe it senses Hurley--- the only person who is certain they're on the island In the end, Libby convinces Hurley that this is a real by saying that she knows something that he doesn't. However, we then get the final twist--- that Libby was also at Santa Rosa. At the time I thought that this meant that this was some kind of hallucination, and Libby was another part of it. Then, of course, there's the point everyone made--- if Libby was really there, how come Hurley, who clearly remembered a lot of other patients, didn't remember? Was Libby some kind of doctor. We find out later that she has connections to a couple of other people on the island--- is it possible that she's an Other? There are definitely possibilities, but the writers never tried to explain or explore them.



    Far more interesting things are happening back in the hatch, with the re-interrogations of the Other formerly known as Henry. What's never been quite clear is how not-Henry got caught in Rousseau's. Everything this man has done is by design, so why did he come to this side of the island for? Why are the Others, who up until now have made covert attempts to move through the Others, and who threatened the Losties with violence should they try and find them deliberately infiltrate them? Not-Henry says he was following orders (even now there's a possibility that he's telling the truth), but why come like this? And, despite what we says, he knows very well what happens if you don't input the numbers into the computer, so why is he lying? If he is trying to protect the island, why would he do something that he knows very well could lead to massive casualties? We're still waiting for answers on that one



    Though 'Dave' does have some interesting moments and raises some interesting questions, for the most part, it feels a lot like 'Fire + Water,. We're running in circles, and even though interesting thigns are happening --- what was up with the food drop? what were Charlie and Eko building?--- we don't seem to be getting answers. Even if it does explode one of the major theories, they could've done that and done more in the hatch. So why keep us here anyway? It was nice to see Sawyer take a beating from the man he has antagonized the most--- but then, maybe that wasn't real either.

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  • Great episode.

    10
    This was a great episode. Was very Hurley based, but I liked that. It let us in on a bit more of Hurleys past. Many things that happened throughout this show I had expected, and im sure many others did aswell. However, the ending through me off, and im sure did the same to everyone else. The ending left me Lost I guess I could say. Another great thing about the show, they always leave you wondering.moreless
  • Awesome.

    9.0
    Hurley chases after his old imaginary friend in the jungle, and his relationship with Libby develops. Locke questions his commitment to the hatch, after Henry claims to have never entered the numbers. Hurley remembers his time at a mental institution. It is revealed via flashback that Libby attended the mental institution, as well. I love the way everyone is with the new food - love it. Hurley keeps seeing Dave his imaginary friend, kind of scary. I love the hatch scenes, I love the way Jack is looking after Locke. I love the way everyone is towards Henry awesome storyline. I love Eko and Charlie scenes. I love the way Sawyer has oreos! I love the Hurley and Sawyer fighting scene - extremely funny it has me in tears. I love the Locke and Henry scene and I love the ending!moreless
  • Very Good Exploration!!!!

    9.0
    Logic:



    After the Last time that Hurley was the Main Character, his flashbacks wasn´t impressive, so the writers had a second chance to do the right thing and to explore this great character.



    So they Choose to explore his psychology. Is Hugo Crazy? Could all be his imagination, since he won the lottery and had some bad luck, it make sense that the writers explore this side, because his story his really crazy. There is no plot holes, it makes perfect sense what happened with him in this episode.



    This also explains why he eats so much.



    Nice Details:



    The way that the writers explored the Hurley psychology was very well done. His last conversation with his friend DAvid is a great Example of that.



    There is also a great detail about "Henry", his scenes with Sayid and after with Locke was great. What he said make sense, but again, you don´t know if he is telling the truth.



    Emotions:



    This episode is about confusing the audience and give them a twist. There are funny scenes like when Hurley fights with Sawyer or when he destroy all his food and someone put more food in the Island.



    Even Henry Scene with Locke is confusing, since you don´t know if he is telling the truth or if he is playing with Locke.



    Discovering what is Hurley friend and why he reminds of seeing Libby is a nice surprise.



    We have some drama too, when we discover why he eats so much.



    Progression:



    This episode did is job, to point A to point B, is all about character development and not about doing something big happen. So Hurley problem is addressed and solved in a single episode as expected.



    Ending:



    An essential income to finish in the best form and to change the opinion in general about an episode. This episode had a very good ending.



    Overall:



    You can expected great Character development, funny scenes and confusing scenes too, drama and a good ending, make this episode deserves at least a 9.moreless
  • Private Idaho

    9.5
    Quizás esto que estoy escribiendo sea leído por nadie simplemente porque hay nadie del otro lado. Quizás mi mente esté creando este momento como creó todos los momentos y mis dedos que no existen apretando teclas que no existen mientras miro que las palabras que escribo (que tampoco existen obviamente) en la pantalla imaginaria estén bien escritas en un idioma que yo (mi mente) inventó quién sabe cuando y cómo. Y este restaurante en el que trabajo se llame Barrancas porque se supone que nací en Barracas y entonces acá moriré. Quizás nada sea más real que un avión cayendo en espiral sobre una ciudad inexistente.moreless
Evan Handler

Evan Handler

Dave

Guest Star

Bruce Davison

Bruce Davison

Dr. Brooks

Guest Star

Ron Bottitta

Ron Bottitta

Leonard Simms

Guest Star

Michael Emerson (I)

Michael Emerson (I)

Henry Gale

Recurring Role

Trivia, Notes, Quotes and Allusions

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  • TRIVIA (15)

    • Numbers: Henry lies to Sayid, saying that the real Henry Gale was already dead when he found him 4 months ago.

    • When Hurley was playing Connect 4 with his friend, Leonard, Leonard kept repeating all six of "The Numbers" over and over.

    • Island events in this episode take place on November 22nd 2004.

    • Numbers: 8 and 23

      The deck that collapsed was meant to hold 8 people but had 23 on it.

    • In the beginning of the episode when Hurley falls over, while chasing Dave, Jorge cut his hand open on a piece of glass left in the jungle. In a following scene when Hurley picks up a box of DHARMA crisps he has a plaster on his hand, as both scenes were shot on the same day.

    • So far this is the only episode of the entire show which ends with a flashback scene.

    • On Libby's table is a Mancala game board.

    • During Hurley's flashback to the basketball game, the meditating patient and his doctor move across the court several times (Compare their positions to the central blue line on the court. They cross it at different points during the scene).

    • In the first scene when Dr. Brooks is taking the picture, Hurley removes his hand around Dave backwards but in the last scene of the episode Hurley removes his hand forward.

    • Photo goofs:
      1) When Dr. Brooks took the photo there was sunlight coming in through the windows behind Hurley. But when Brooks shows Hurley the photo the windows are pitch black.
      2) Two people sit by the left side of the table behind Hurley when the photo is taken and should be visible in the photo, considering the angle at which it was taken (the angle seen in the photo later). But in the photo only one (the one on the right) appears (barely visible, behind Hurley). Was the guy on the left imaginary too?
      3) In Libby's flashback Hurley turns his head towards invisible Dave after the flash hits, while in Hurley's flashback, he turns his head just before the flash kicks in (he turns it back just in time to look at the camera when the photo gets snapped).

    • Charlie was there with Jack and the others the previous evening in the last episode when they found the food. But now he acts surprised along with the arrivals as if he didn't know the food was there.

    • We learn that the reason for Hurley being institutionalized, is due to the fact that he feels responsible for the deaths of two people. They died when an overcrowded deck collapsed after Hurley stepped onto the deck. After the accident, Hurley went into a catatonic state basically doing nothing but eating.

    • Hurley and Leonard are playing a game of Connect Four. 4 is one of the numbers. Also, in Connect Four there are 42 counters used in the game. 42 is also a number.

    • Continuity - When Hurley is emptying his stash. He starts dumping the ranch container and clearly splashes it on himself. Then the scene cuts to him emptying the orange crackers and he has no ranch on him. Also, when Libby is getting ready to kiss him his hair is tucked behind his ears. Then the shot changes, and when she is holding his hair, it's hanging down. Then It's back behind his ears again for the next shots.

    • When Hurley is in his doctor's office, behind him, there is a painting of an island that looks just like the island that they crashed onto. This is probably a connection to the island. Edit: Aside from the connection to the island (thus adding another way to tie everything together, Lost style), this was probably done to get viewers wrapped up in Dave's claim that everything which happened on the show is just Hurley's imagination running wild, while he is actually still in the asylum. Having an island picture in Dr. Brooks' office could further support the claim that Hurley imagined the whole thing based on real things around him, just like dreams are collections of memories mixed up at random.

  • QUOTES (34)

    • Hurley: But I got better. I changed.
      Dave: Changed? What, are you kidding me? Take a look at yourself. You've been on a deserted island for over two months and you haven't dropped ten pounds. How is that even possible, man?

    • Hurley: So this is all just in my brain?
      Dave: Every rock, every tree. Every tree frog. Even me. The real me, the one they told you was imaginary? He went out the window, man. Right now he's probably bouncing from hot chick to hot chick, unlike me, who's really you, who's got more important things to do.

    • Hurley: You don't know me.
      Libby: I was starting to.
      Hurley: Yeah, well did you know I'm so fat that I killed two people? And that I have an imaginary friend?

    • Hurley: This isn't real life.
      Libby: Why would you say that?
      Hurley: Because in real life, no girl like you would ever like me. Remember when I said I knew you from somewhere? Well, maybe it's because I made you up?

    • Dave: (To Hurley) Oh, oh, oh, can you taste that? That is freedom, baby. You know what tastes even better than freedom? Cheeseburgers.

    • Kate: (about Hurley) So, he just attacked you, huh?
      Sawyer: Try to contain yourself, Freckles.
      Kate: What? I'm worried. You look like you got your ass kicked.
      Sawyer: Don't you got an adventure to get to? I think Timmy fell down a well over that way.

    • Hurley: Pulling it will only break the cookie.
      Sawyer: Well, that's what I get for not going to the expert in the first place. What can I do you for, Deepdish?

    • Dave: Hey, it's taco night, dude, let's blow this pop stand. (Hurley looks away) What?
      Hurley: Brooks said you're, like, negative.
      Dave: Well, duh. So what, you don't want to hang out with me anymore?
      Hurley: Uh, I don't know, it's just ...
      Dave: Is that quack getting inside your head, man? Do not let him. You've got much more important things to think about.
      Hurley: Like what?
      Dave: Like hard or soft shell, baby; chicken or shrimp; sour cream or hot sauce.
      Hurley: Yeah, I guess I could eat.
      Dave: Yeah, I thought so. Noche de tacos, amigo.

    • Dave: Dude, dude, I'm open, dude. It's called dribbling, not drooling - dribbling! Well, shoot it then! Shoot it! (the patient lays the ball down under the basket) Wait, oh, high percentage shot, excellent choice. (to Hurley) Do you want in the game, man? Go for it. Something tells me no one will care.

    • Libby: (To Hurley) Pretty weird, huh? So the island won't let you lose weight, you destroy your stash, then bang, more food falls from the sky.

    • Sawyer: (Everyone is fighting over the food) Hold on, take it easy. You guys are like locusts. How about a little order here?

    • Sawyer: Forget it. I'm done trading. I got enough food now to open a chain of mini-marts. Hey, you think Sayid needs a job?

    • Charlie: We need to put somebody trustworthy in charge of the food, like Hurley!
      Hurley: No, no, no way, NO!

    • (Sayid is questioning "Henry" about the body they found)
      Henry: He was dead already. Four months ago I was part of the search party. Henry Gale was hanging out of the basket ... neck broken.
      Sayid: So he was already dead?
      Henry: Yes.
      Sayid: Then you buried him and left a grave marker?
      Henry: Yes.
      (Sayid pulls a 20 dollar bill out of his pocket)
      Sayid: You really should have checked his wallet before you did that. I assume Henry Gale did not have any paper on which to compose his thoughts, so he had to improvise. There wasn't much space for that. (reads the bill) "Jennifer, well you were right. Crossing the Pacific isn't easy. I owe you a beer. I'm hiking to one of the beaches to start a signal fire. If you're reading this I guess I didn't make it. I'm sorry. I love you, Jenny. Always have; always will. Yours, Henry." So tell me, how did Henry Gale write a note to his wife with a broken neck?

    • (after Hurley says that he does not want to be the one to divide up the food)
      Libby: Okay, hey, hey, how about no one's in charge, okay? I'm sure everyone can manage to just take what they need.
      Sawyer: Great plan, Moonbeam. And after that we can sing Kumbaya and do 'trust falls.'

    • Charlie: Shouldn't we let someone a little more trustworthy take care of this?
      Sawyer: Like you, babynapper?

    • Hurley: When we first crashed here, I was like, this isn't all bad - it's, like, the all mango diet. I wasn't turning any heads or nothing but I did drop a couple belt sizes. Then we found this hatch and it was full of food - tons of food. I tried giving it all away, but I guess I kind of kept some of it for myself. I wish I could just get rid of it.
      Libby : Then get rid of it (holds out a giant jar of ranch dressing). You want to change ... then change.

    • Locke: Did you get caught on purpose? You and your people have been here for God knows how long, and you got caught in a net...
      Henry Gale: God doesn't know.
      Locke: Excuse me?
      Henry Gale: God doesn't know how long we've been here, John. He can't see this island any better than the rest of the world can.

    • Hurley: Did anyone see a man run through here in a bathrobe with a coconut?
      Charlie: No, I saw a polar bear on roller blades with a mango.

    • Dave: OK ... Look ... I know you're freaking out right now and I'm sorry, but ... It's gonna get a little worse before it gets better.
      Hurley: Worse?!

    • Locke: How long until I can walk...?
      Jack: You're gonna have to wait a couple of weeks. There's a wheelchair ...
      Locke: No! I don't need a wheelchair.

    • Kate: How are you holding up?
      Locke: Depends on Jack's best guess.

    • Libby: (exercising on the beach) Isn't this nice?
      Hurley: I kinda prefer breathing!

    • Libby: That was a real kiss.
      Hurley: Maybe, you should do it one more time, just to make sure.

    • Locke: I want to talk to him.
      Ana Lucia: I don't think that's on today's program.

    • Dave: Look at that. Marcus didn't finish his lasagna. That's a waste man. One for the road?
      (Hurley takes the plate and starts eating)

    • Libby: You know, exercising is addictive.
      Hurley: I can see why.

    • (Dave wakes Hurley up)
      Dave: Finally. You could sleep through a damn NASCAR race, man.

    • Libby: That's a lot of peanut butter.
      Hurley: Well, I'm going to need a lot of protein where I'm going.

    • Charlie: What are you making? (silence from Eko) Is it a Starbucks?

    • Charlie: Did anyone see a plane last night?
      Sawyer: Yeah, I saw it Tattoo. I just decided not to tell anyone.

    • Libby: Where are you going?
      Hurley: Back to the caves. No one lives there anymore so it won't bother anybody. I'm gonna live alone and be one of those guys ... you know, the crazy guys ... with the big beard and no clothes, naked and throws doo-dee at people.

    • Dave: Leonard's got graham crackers; why don't you take some? What's he gonna do? Call you a 23?

    • Sawyer: What stuff you seein'?
      Hurley: I don't know ... maybe like a bald guy, in a bathrobe.
      Sawyer: You mean like that guy there? (Hurley turns around and sees nothing)Got'cha !

  • NOTES (5)

  • ALLUSIONS (8)

    • Kumbaya: Sawyer tells Libby, "Great plan, Moonbeam. And after that we can sing Kumbaya and do trust falls". "Kumbaya" is a standard campfire song in Scouting, YMCA and the Indian Guides.

    • The Incredible Hulk: Sawyer claims Hurley "hulked-out" on him after he teased him about Dave. The Hulk was a Marvel comic book character that was created by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby in 1963.

    • Starbucks

      After Charlie sees Eko building something, he asks, "Is it a Starbucks?"

      Starbucks is one of the largest, most well known coffee shop chains in the world. Charlie refers to it because it is commonly said that there is a Starbucks on every corner.

    • Dave: ...Photoshop.
      Photoshop is a very popular image editing application for the PC. You can manipulate any image and even "erase" someone in a picture as Dave points out.

    • Connect Four

      Leonard and Hurley playing Connect Four
      Dave: "Pretty sneaky, Leonard."
      This is in reference to a TV commercial from the 70's for "Connect Four."

      A brother and sister are playing the game when the sister announces that she's won, diagonally. The brother says, "Pretty sneaky, sis." The sister then releases the game pieces from the board, as Leonard does after his game with Hurley.

    • The character Tattoo on Fantasy Island.

      Charlie: Did anyone see a plane last night?
      Sawyer: Yeah, I saw it Tattoo. I just decided not to tell anyone.

      Sawyer is referring to the famous TV character Tattoo (played by Herve Villechaize) who was a memorable fixture on the 1970's series Fantasy Island. He's most famous for the quote, "The plane! The plane!"

    • Movie: My Own Private Idaho

      Dave says to Hurley, "You are in your own private Idaho," referring to this 1991 film in which two friends that are street hustlers also have their own mental problems and issues.

    • Star Wars

      Dave says to Hurley, "You think they blew up the Death Star?" Refers to both films, Star Wars: Episodes IV & VI

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