john lock and the new china man do good in it, as well as jack in the future but wtf, it was awful there was no "oh my gods","or wow i didnt excpect that" it was all about dumb ass kate and her kid. she thought oh i might love jack mom youre a **** and i hate you. wait, what happeded to everytinh good about lost the suspense. that wasnt an episode, it should have been a 1 minute clip from lost not an episode. i love lost as much as the next by but come on, that wasted an hour of my life.
kate's motivation for talking to miles made absolutely no sense whatsoever. she wanted to know if he knew who she was? really?? why wouldn't he? she's a well-known fugitive. anyone can go on to the fbi website & get a list of criminals. a criminal on a crashed plane? even easier to google. google was around in 2004 so it made no sense for her to do all that work & lie to everyone just for him to confirm that she's not an anonymous person on a plane. if the others can find out things about their past why couldn't the people from the freighter? give me a break. it was so lame. there were so many other ways to have a kate-centric episode without having her behave in such an irrational manner. i mean, she smacked sawyer for saying something. which was insanely out of character. he's said things before, but for her to smack him in the face? & claire didn't seem affected at all by the fact that charlie had just died. it hasn't been that long & she's acting like everything is perfectly fine. a little mention of that by kate or maybe claire not being so happy would have made this episode better. who wrote this episode??
at least ben asked the question i had: 3.2? why not 3.3 ? maybe there's meaning in the amount. who knows. miles is such an annoying character because he is motivated the same way that nicki & paulo were, by greed, that i'm barely interested in it. luckily locke stuck the grenade in his mouth to shut him up. a great scene. sure the spoil-forward twist at the end was great & i can find a little solace in that they are trying to really stick it to all the l&o fans who clamored for answers because they are getting their precious answers with some brand new questions. either way i hate spoil-forwards & they detract from the show.
after a nonsensical second season and it's over the top dilluted narrative, and a strong third season (or at least half season, the second half), due in part to two new great characters, Juliet and of course, Ben Linus (playing an extra in the 2nd, Henry Gale), the best bad ass villain in years, the forth season comes as an unpleasent surprise to me
first of, ben and juliet are completely underused, pushed back to playing extras. instead, four far less interesting new characters are introduced in brief flashbacks, the asian mind-reading (duh), the pain in the ass redhead, the nerdy scientist, played by all-time-favourite nerd Jeremy Davies (kudos to his ability to create empathy, as always) and the uninteresting but friendly father figure chopper pilot. The 3rd season finale's twist briliantly changed the whole deal; instead of wanting to escape from the island (now that we know that they, or at least six of them, do escape) we want to stay on the island and uncover it's secrets. And although, some of the secrets are revealed (yeah, time flows at a diffrent speed, we already figured that out by now, especially after we've seen walt talkin to locke, someone is indeed after ben but we already knew that too, miles wants 3.2M$ to shut his mouth and lie to his boss, right, who cares), no real answers are given. But I guess that's the whole lost-concept: every time someone gets to talk to a character that knows al the answers, no one bothers to ask the right questions, or, for that matter, any questions at all.
Instead of it all, we get to see a good show turning ino real down-to-earth old-school soap opera: sawyer talks to kate on the porch, kate talks to sawyer, sawyer reads Marx in boxer shorts (does that look like bad soft-porn ?), kate makes her entrance, they talk and kiss, and get up in the morning and she gets mad for whatever reason and leaves again for the 26th time (damn, no one has ever warned them about relationships beeing so hard?... ouch, watch out for that heartbrake sawyer), hugo is feeding miles, sawyer and roomate hugo watch a movie, kate and claire do the laundry and talk about babies, sawyer and locke play chess,... i'm bored. There's still some good moments here and there, locke feeding a grenade to miles, the good old cliffhanger, yeah, we learn that Aaron is the 6th survivor from the island: jack, kate, hugo, ben, sayid and aaron ? do i get that right ? No more flashforwards involving any other characters possible then ?
Come on Damon, stirr things up a little bit. At least episode 405 raised the barr - remember watching back to the future when you were 12 thinking everything was possible ? But please!! damon and carlton, let go of the soap.
Of all the season 4 episodes I have so far seen, "Eggtown" is easily the weakest of the 4, which most people would probably agree with. It is strange when looking back that some of the weaker additions of the series have been Kate episodes. Subsequent to her solid centric episode debut, "Tabula Rasa", the character of Kate hasn't been given as strong a backstory of depth of personality as the others, and given her past history and how it should affect her present situations is surprising. The root of the problem lies with her hormones, unfortunately. As with most great TV shows, the writers have to employ a little romantic tension into proceedings once in a while and this will obviously please the shipper fans. This would be fine if one romantic partnership existed on the island that concerned Kate. The writers try to complicate the situation, uneccesarily so, by bringing in other characters. The decision to choose between two men has never been so difficult for any female charcater, fictional or otherwise in history, yet Kate manages to make even the most indecisive person appear positive. What makes matters worse is that even the men have contracted the illness and will continue to throughout the remainder of the series. Is this the Sickness? Has a Lost mystery been answered? Sawyer can't choose between Kate or Juliet and even had a fling with Ana-Lucia. He seems to have some affection for Claire as well. Jack seems to bounce between Kate and Juliet with each passing episode. At this stage of the series you would have thought that things would have settled down but unfortunately not and, for me not being a shipper, I find this element of the series to be the weakest area. Yes, Lost is essentially a character driven series and the romantic tensions created is a part of that, but it shouldn't be too much of a focus, as it appears to be in this episode. There are better ways to explore the characters, particularly at this stage of the game. Nethertheless, there is enough in this episode to almost balance things out. Like the last episode the island events don't seem to move very far. Much more happens on the island than it did in "The Economist" but you can definitely feel that this is a ploy by the writers. They are building the tension up, that you feel that at some point things will just explode. That explosion would be largely delayed until "The Shape of Things to Come". For all of the Kate moments, "Eggtown" is as much a Locke episode as anyone. It even begins on Locke's eye, tricking the audience from the get-go. Locke has come a along way since Day 1 on the island. Fans of the gentle, island worshipping would-be hunter of old will probably be disappointed in the direction that this character has took since midway through Season 3. At the end of the day, Locke's actions are only driven by what the island has and still can offer him, as has been case since the beginning. The only things different is his methods, which have become more demonstrative. Locke has found his true home, and, unlike his parents, the island, has taken care of him and, now in some way, he wants to return the favor by giving it what it needs at this time, a new leader. Since the end of Season 3 Ben has felt his grip on the island controls slipping because of this man and now Ben tries to rub salt in Locke's wounds. Locke, once again, is in a fragile state. He has lost contact with Jacob and, in this episode he has lost contact with everyone else. Taunting Locke at the beginning of the episode is Ben's way of cutting through Locke. Ben employed the same tactic on him in Season 2's "Maternity Leave" and with very similar reactions from Locke. Despite, all that the island has given him and shown him and helped him face, to the extent of seeing his father dead at the hands of Sawyer, Locke remains angry, tormented and far from being free.
But instead of sitting down and thinking about his next moves quietly by himself cross-legged, as he did so often in the early days on the island he now takes his frustrations out on people and Miles gets it the worst. Never before have we seen him so violent. Just as we can't understand how Kate can not choose between two men, so radically different from each other and her own personality, so too can we not fathom how Locke can be so bitter and remorseful after being on an island that not only saved his life from a plane crash and from a skeleton pit but brought life back to his legs. Off island, for a second, we finally get to wrap (or so it it would seem) Kate's fugitive storyline, which is a consolation because we don't get to see Kate's love life settle down. On island we see Kate leave Sawyer alone in an Other's bed (oh, the thought!) and off island in the future she has distanced herself from Jack also. So, it would seem that the Kate tennis ball ended up not bouncing to anyone but the back of the court. Of course, as we would see later the two of them did share a rather short-lived relationship. But the highlight of this flashforward is not the rather straightforward trial, which netherless features a revealing cover story for the events on the island, nor the reunion between Kate and her mother, but the reveal of Kate's "son", who is none other than Aaron, Claire's baby. The writers do a clever job in setting it up that Kate really has a biological son and that the father is Sawyer. That Sawyer is the father would make sense as Jack would naturally have a problem with wanting to see the baby, due to jealousy. The fact that it wasn't adds a further mystery to events off island. It is likely that both the fact that the baby is being protected by the cover story/lie the survivors have concocted to prevent any reveal of what happened to Claire and subsequent others on the island. Add to that Jack's guilt that he would be, as step-sister to Claire, Aaron's nephew and you have a lot of burden for Jack to carry on his shoulders. The biggest question, however, is what becomes of the beautiful Claire. The end of the season doesn't help is solve the mystery. We discover she suddenly disappears but pops up a la Christian Shepherd in the jungle and in Jacob's cabin. Has Claire become an apparition of Jacob or the smoke monster? Speaking of Claire, many fans were annoyed at her behaviour following Charlie's death. Sure, she seems to have gotten over the loss quite quickly, but some people do get over these things more easily than others, either due to inner strength or maybe happy pills! At the time of writing this review I am witnessing someone acting similar to Claire. So, trust me, it does happen!
Back on the island and we see an odd scene between Daniel Faraday and Charlotte Lewis, playing cards. Faraday is trying to remember what the three cards laying down on the table are but fails to remember all of them and is disgusted. Take this moment with Faraday's very first flashback scene in "Confirmed Dead", where he says he can't remember why he is upset and we are led to believe that somehow Daniel has a memory problem and that also he may be involved in some time travel.
The whole memory plot thread would be further developed in the following episode. One of the most impressive elements of Lost, is its continued ability to pull storylines and themes from seasons past and recycle them or even elaborate, expand and develop them, proving that nothing stays dead and untied up on the show [okay, except Libby!]. In this episode and this season's case it is the early Season 1 episode, "Raised by Another", which is given another spotlight and audiences are made to re-evaluate the events of that episode in light of the events seen in "Eggtown". Both creepy Locke in Claire's dream and Richard Malkin, warn Claire to not let anyone but her raise her baby or danger will befall them. Has this sequence of bad events begun? Also, Locke said to Claire in her trippy dream that she gave the baby up and that now everyone pays the price now. Of course, this dream was on island and we know that she hadn't and wasn't any time soon going to give the baby up. She was off the island but never did. Locke is saying in the dream that she DID give it up. If Claire's dreams were a premonition of events to come [Lest not forget that she dreamt that her baby was in danger and that someone was coming to kidnap her, which died happen] then this episode is quite a foreshadowing, proving that the writers knew where they were going to take the show from Day 1. This, in some ways, was a bit of a filler episodes, despite all the important revelations, which depends alot on Kate's undefined and over-romantic character. Lost Unless it is Penny and Desmond, romance isn't the best aspect of the show. And this episode only proves this. All in all, a disappointing addition to Season 4.
Althoe almost every episode of lost ( includeing this one) keeps my attention I was left was a feeling of " is that all?" at the end if this episode. It did't really tell me much about anything and only seamed to focus on the soap opera between Kate - Jack - James. The cliff hanger ending opened up more questions but not really ones that I care about. I am loveing the flash forwards this season thoe. All in all so far the worst episode of season four. Stacked up to the first three amazing episodes this one fell off the wagon a bit.
This episode revolves around Kate and her trial once she's off the island and becomes yet another member of the Oceanic 6. Not much happens in her off - island story except that she gets off. Any scene that is part of this dreary plot lags and i'm still convinced that Evangeline Lilly who plays Kate is just not a very good actress despite her looks.
On the island however Kate beds Sawyer and tells him that she's not pregnant and busts out the prisoner Miles to speak to the other prisoner Ben where he demands milions of dollars. Not much time is spent on the beach which means that Jack isn't given much time to chew on the scenery; that honour goes to the passive - agressive Miles. Miles is sleazy, mumbles and is demanding lots of money (3.2 million to be exact) for nothing; it looks like we have an asian Marlon Brando on Lost. There have been many major twists in entertainment:
The Others - They are all ghosts
Sixth Sense - Malcolm Crowe is dead
The Empire Strikes Back - Darth Vader is Luke's father
The Crying Game - Dil is a man
Planet of the Apes - They were on earth all along
and Psycho - The Mother is Norman in drag.
The so - called "cliffhanger" in this episode is that Aaron (Claire's baby) calls Kate Mom. This is meant to make us ecstatic to see the next episode but really it just fizzles for a show like Lost there're a million and one twists they could've thrown at us and this one just falls flat. The character of Ben may be beaten, tied to a chair and locked in a metal cell but he still has everyone around him cowering with Michael Emerson's subtle chilliness that has only been matched by Anthony Hopkins in The Silence of the Lambs. There is yet another "Secret Clue" or "Unanswered Question" which can only be noticed by people who have Tivo and examine every frame of the episode. Clearly the people who notice these don't have a life and with the direction of this season still not clear; i'm beginning to think the same about me.
This episode will keep a fan happy; there's plenty of mystery, drama and comedy but it's getting to the point where quality isn''t enough and the actual answers to the questions we've been asking since Season 1 is all that we demand.
For a series with major themes of redemption and salvation, Kate's story should have been as central as Jack made it out to be while committing perjury. I'm not saying Kate should have been the de facto leader of the survivors, although that is what Lindelof and Abrams had originally envisioned. I am saying her return to the U.S. should have presented more than just a paparazzi circus for the likes of E! online to cover. From a literary standpoint, there could have been a major moral dilemma dealt with her, either internally or externally. In line with this , we get a brief conversation with Kate's mom from which we only learn that she's dying and then not over and over again. (don't care). Then we get the plea deal, where it is made clear that the State of California wants to keep her under their thumb for reasons not yet known and Kate wants to stay out of prison for the purpose of caring for Aaron.
From a legal standpoint, not only was Jack's testimony perjury, it was inadmissible character evidence. Sorry to nitpick but he should have been limited to opinion and reputation evidence only not specific acts like "she saved my life!" From an emotional standpoint, Sawyer needs to tell Kate where to go and leave it at that. I don't buy the arguments that he was insensitive. He has always been this way and she knows this. They are also in a high stress situation and he "proposed" to her in the last episode for crying out loud. He was just calling a spade a spade. As for spades, this episode was a misfire for the season. I was pretty disappointed that the baby was Aaron. That adds a mystery that we don't need at this point. Having the baby be her's and Sawyer's explains why she wants to leave the island and lie to Sawyer and treat him like crap. Having Aaron raises a whole new set of questions I don't want to go into here other than to repeat what other reviewers have said - is Kate the evil force or "another" that Claire's psychic warned about? I would believe it.
Plot Details/Objective -» With 4 of the Oceanic six revealed, was time to concentrate in Kate and show us how she surpassed her Main Problem. Since the writers in the FF are doing shocking surprises, Kate couldn´t be the expectation. The event in the Island center around Kate and this time was not difficult to give her a task, involving Ben and Miles.
What I Like/Disliked -» The Last Scene of Kate FF. Some dialogues between the characters, Kate and her mother last interaction.
Presentation -» (6/10). Not strong, just presenting.
Complication Phase -»(6/10). Nothing that could put you worried and filled with tension, was just Kate wanting to Know he she is pregnant and making a deal with Miles.
Climax -»(6/10). Really could notice any in the Island event. In the FF, was Claire and her Mother conversation, but nothing from the top.
Cliffhanger/Ending -» (8/10). Was nice to see the surprise at the ending.
Flash-forward's -» (7,5/10) It is hard to manage Kate FF. The writers come up with something, which was tie something to her, to allow her FF to have some surprise, and all the surprises centers around Kate Child.
Time and Scenes Management -» (7/10). Put Kate trial in play was the best way/move they could do to Kate scenes this time and maintain some secrets and at the same time gave us some hints. The event In the Island bring one hint, but a very vague one. It was impossible to me to not notice the time that the Island Event bought.
Dialogues -» (7/10). As usual, even with a episode which is not great, Lost writers can maintain good dialogues.
Action /Adventure -» (5/10). Nothing here to admire.
Drama/Emotions -» (6/10). Maybe reunion with her mother, but I did not care.
Mystery/Curiosity/Doubts/Hints -» (7/10). The usual, vague hints and the FF give another hint. Where is Sayid and Desmond?
Surprise/Twists/Thoughts Changer -» (6,7/10). The possibility of Kate pregnancy was not something attractive, but the ending could only mean that One more old character is dead or missing.
This episode really fails to deliver Quality, even with a FF centered in Kate, with Jack participation. The so called cliffhanger was not so strong as intended to be and only if you are a super fan, you will think that this episode is great.
it seems that lost season 4 is falling into the trap that season 3 did where there was a brilliant few episodes... and the suddently it starts showing you less and less of what the actualy plot is and more of what happenned after the events of the island. come on writers? its season 4 and we still know hardly anything different to what we knew at the end of season 2
this needs to get so much better, we still not know what the black smoke is? why the island cant be found, where the people actualy are. what the others were doing on the island.
My impression about this episode like..neutral. It's a bit better than previous one but still not LOSTy.. you know. Creators can do better. I'm absolutely sure about that! As for me i hope that one day there is no shipper at all. Because when they're consentrated on a love triangle they're forgetting about what LOST is about. And again - so much new details but none of previous are opened for us so i feel a bit stressed about it.)) Also i'm disappointed about Locke because he's getting angry man who can kill just for the secret he wants to check out. Yes he's been strange man before but now he's too agressive.)
So far this season has been hitting the mark consistently, the best introduction phase of a season since the first one. With the writers knowing the end point, they know where to place pivotal moments rather than keep it open until the audience has lost its patience. The flash-forwards have also recharged the series' momentum. Unfortunately this episode is a slight downturn because of some faults in plot points related to Kate, but the rest continues to build on the foundation for this season.
Kate's major problem, again, is that her story relies too heavily on her love interests. Take Kate out of the picture and Jack and Sawyer would still be compelling characters. Vice versa and she's lost. She has proven to be a good actress, so why can't we see her character with something substantial? She has a criminal past she was running away from, but it seems to be forgotten most of the time. However, this episode brings back those elements while adding a dynamic that should make Kate a lot more interesting.
The episode's title, an old slang term referring to a place where there is nothing good to trade, seems appropriate as several sides are trying to negotiate. Kate makes a deal with Miles, and ultimately gets little out of it, paralleled to Kate making a deal in her murder case in the future. Miles also tries to extort a fortune from Ben, but it clearly will be harder than Ben handing over some money. You could also use the survivors as a whole in a position where no trade will do them well: stay on the island and be at its mercy or leave and eventually succumb to massive guilt.
Kate's deal in her flash-forward is another situation. Although I've expected whatever got the Oceanic Six off the island eventually wiped Kate's criminal record clean, it would make more sense that she face her crimes in court since there was some time that Kate's mug shot would probably be in many major newspapers while the plane was missing. However, it seems that Kate, who would likely face a capital murder charge for her father, gets off with a slap on the wrist.
Kate's story has two problems going against it: the legality of her trial and the circumstances that lead her to believe she isn't pregnant. Besides the more detailed elements of law (which I have no authority to speak of), why is Kate being tried in Los Angeles? She killed her father in Iowa, got her sweetheart killed there as well and robbed the bank in New Mexico. It's possible that her lawyer felt she couldn't get a fair trial in either state, but being in LA reeks of plot convenience since Jack lives there.
The second big problem's resolution feels a little sloppy. It's understandable that Kate is apprehensive about being pregnant, especially on the island that tends to kill those expecting. Of course the flash forward reveals her "son" isn't biological, but on island, she has no reason to know definitively she isn't pregnant unless she took one of the pregnancy tests. There are other indicators that she wouldn't be, but they don't even hint to them happening.
Jack's testimony serves a little more of the mystery of the Oceanic Six's back story. Originally there were eight survivors from the plane which crashed in the water, which is already a big shift from the truth. Kate served as the leader (which would've been the original premise of the series had Jack died in The Pilot as planned) until they were rescued. Everything besides their specific survival was manufactured.
So their story involves two characters dying. Some theorized that the two people who "died" are still alive, but being protected by this cover. For some reason, the Six or those who "rescued" them want to create the impression that they're dead for the rest of the world. They may be unable to protect themselves or are living covertly (Sayid wouldn't count as he is one of the six).
Locke's authority among The Others 2.0 is eroding faster than Ben's did towards the end of last season. Locke has a fit after Ben points out how lost Locke is without some island force guarding him. The last time he had a fit like this was in "Maternity Leave" when Ben under minded Locke's position within the castaways. With him lost and his word disregarded by his followers, he's desperately trying to assert his power and often making rash choices because of it. Obviously the big example is his interrogation of Miles, where he stuffs a grenade in his mouth to get information out of him. Considering the cons, it wouldn't be hard to believe that the grenade isn't active, but making consequences that extreme mirrors Ben's actions just as he fell from power.
Miles' reason for wanting to see Ben so badly is revealed. Considering his pocketing of the money from the kid's house in the flashback, that he would extort Ben out of $3.2 million isn't hard to believe. The Others have a lot of resources off island that would require a hefty bank account. The amount is odd, as Ben points out and he doesn't offer much beside an ambiguous facial expression as to why Miles picked it. There does seem to be meaning to the amount, but what it is is just another tease to spark fan discussion.
Another in the series of red flags the freighties have been giving off is the survivors' inability to contact the freighter's original line. In the last episode they hinted at problems inside the freighter with Frank reminding Daniel to hang up if Minkoswki answers. So there are some clear problems within the freighties community as higher management has a different agenda than everyone else.
Last episode showed a time discrepancy from on-island to off-island. So it would make sense that Sayid, Desmond and Frank's trip to the freighter would take longer than expected. One would have to wonder how long it took the freighties to get to the island to begin with. The writers have made a conscientious effort to avoid using explicit time tables so far, and that discrepancy with the payload hints at the problem with the helicopter.
Jin and Sun, who haven't been featured much so far this season, have a short scene worth discussing. Jin is preparing to head to America to raise their child, but Sun would rather raise it in Seoul. One thing not brought up is Sun's father, who sent a man to the airport to remind Jin that they'll never be free of him. It'll be hard to hide from Sun's father in Seoul if that's what they still plan to do.
There is also a hint that the child's paternity may be in question again, as Sun didn't respond to Jin's correction "our baby". In the mobisode "Buried Secrets", the relationship between Michael and Sun that never materialized beyond the first couple episodes is brought up again when they almost kiss. While that may be important again, it's probably best to leave the paternity subplot be rather than drag Michael into it.
With all the importance on Kate's "son", the writers set up the catch that there's more to the child. In retrospect, it should've been obvious that it wasn't Kate's long theorized child with Sawyer (unless you're still hanging on to the idea that Kate named her son after Aaron, which would've been a cheat), although some guessed that it was Aaron. Considering I was spoiled about last episode's Ben reveal, being unaware of this made it a welcome surprise.
Aaron being under Kate's care effectively dashes any chance Claire has of being one of the six. Some theorized she might've been killed, but I'm skeptical about that, mostly because it's dramatically richer if she's alive but separated from her child by major forces. Claire probably "died" in the cover story, with Kate taking over for mother as a way to boost her character standing off-island. It's possible that, as the Oceanic Six is keeping mum on the truth, Kate is protecting Aaron from the freighties' boss. It also recalls the warning the psychic gave Claire in "Raised By Another" that her son can't be raised by anyone other than herself and that perhaps fate had her on the doomed flight so she would have no other option but to raise him. This scenario could be the basis for a worthy follow through to the promises that early episode made.
Overall this may be the weakest episode so far, there's still a lot of solid material. More elements are being introduced as the season begins to gel, which should continue to compel viewers. Unfortunately Kate is still largely defined by the men she's attracted to, but at least they've set up the stage for bigger things.
Again, another overrated episode on the basis of it being new, logic new= better, how quickly we forget older, better episodes eh?
The centric story is fairly boring, again, as typical with most Kate centric, the plot twist at the end, wasn't particularly jaw dropping (if you haven't been told what it is I'm sure tv.com's user reviews will force it in your face without permission)
The Island portion was little more interesting, but ultimately, if feels like more stuff being piled on top of each other, groundwork layered on groundwork without finishing the project, this can be frustrating, like the last episode, it feels pretty static.
There are a few scenes that feel forced, a scene between Locke and miles comes to mind and fairly obvious gratuitous show of body between two main charecters that seemed completely un-needed and to be honest, lame.
Overall, pretty weak episode, probably the weakest thus far in the season, as usual, tv users overate it, on the basis it's new.
Of all the characters on "Lost", Kate is the least defined of the prominent leaders. In fact, compared to the rest of the island leadership (counting both tribes together), she continues to be a contradictory mess. Her status as the "wild card" has largely amounted to being a love interest for two strong personalities, even though she has treated both Jack and Sawyer horribly at one time or another.
Recent developments have hinted at a direction for the character, particularly the possibility of pregnancy in the one part of the world where it is absolutely fatal. That possibility was used as a red herring for the events in the flash-forward, where Kate is obviously worried about her "son". This might have presented some interesting plot complications. After all, if Kate had survived pregnancy on the island, that would have to be explained somehow.
This leads into a complicated encounter with Sawyer. First, she uses Sawyer in her bid to get information out of Miles, who is turning out to be rather talented when it comes to enlightened self-interest. Then she appears to seek comfort with him, yet gets angry when he celebrates the news that she's not pregnant. When Sawyer calls her out for her constant manipulations, she slaps him across the face.
It's unfortunate that Sawyer didn't think (or know) to remind Kate that there's a damn good reason to celebrate her lack of motherhood, and that her entire personal history is a testimony to running away from problems. This episode only confirms that Kate hasn't changed significantly since the beginning of the series, and she still hasn't accepted what the island has to offer.
The message, it seems, is that the process of surviving the "rescue" will teach her the value of responsibility. The story that eight passengers survived the crash, but only six were still alive by the time of rescue, does not bode well for Claire anymore. Something must happen to convince Kate to take custody of Aaron, perhaps at Claire's request. Jack's issues suggest that Claire's death (or inability to leave the island) was a personal wound, so perhaps he learned the truth about their father.
Whatever the case, Aaron is meant to be a part of Kate's overall redemption, or at least the most glaring opportunity. That plays into her agreement not to leave the state during her ten years of probation. She doesn't take full responsibility for her actions, but she does take a step in the right direction. It's unfortunate that this step is connected to decisions on the island that directly contradict any semblance of growth.
More to the point, Kate is still being defined by her relationship to others, not by any skill set or active agenda of her own. Kate is still running away from herself. She jumps between Jack and Sawyer, respecting neither in the process, and yet she is treated with undue respect in return. Even the cover story for the Oceanic 6 is designed to make her look like a hero. After the "rescue", she takes on the role of mother to Aaron. But it's clear that she has yet to find peace within herself.
Kate's plea agreement will no doubt play into the situation at the end of Jack's flash-forward in "Through the Looking Glass". Kate has more than a persona reason to avoid a return trip to the island; it would violate her probation. Yet one could argue that this particular episode sets the stage for a later decision to help Jack get back. That might be the only way for Kate to find redemption, since this is certainly not the moment.
Beyond Kate, this episode touches on some other important character moments. Locke continues to fall apart without guidance from Jacob, and he tightens control over the rest of the tribe as a result. His treatment of Miles was clever and terrifying in the same moment. If this is how far Locke will go now, just how bad will it get?
One interpretation of Miles and his ghost-busting is a complicated con, but it may be more than just a matter of grabbing money. Perhaps he has chosen to apply his abilities in such a manner because he feels he has no choice. His extortion of Ben was too specific to be a general desire for illicit wealth, and his willingness to turn against the rest of the team suggests a personal crisis. That may play into the scenario that leads to the "Oceanic 6" deception.
Of course, that may take a bit longer to evolve, because returning to the "rescue boat" is not going to be easy. The disappearance of the helicopter is hardly unexpected, after Daniel's warning to Frank in the previous episode, and it should begin to explain some of the mysteries about the island and the difficulties getting there and getting away. If nothing else, the "rescue" arc has given the writers enormous opportunity to shed light on major open questions.
Unfortunately, the focus on Kate and her supposed "mysterious" personality is a letdown. As luminous as the actress can be, the writers have spent more than three seasons on the character with little or no progress. Considering how many of the other prominent characters have been given substantial growth, Kate seemed stunted in comparison.
The show seemed to drag. Can one character not be played by Ben? I love Locke, but does this guy always have to get played by his father and now Ben. A lot of wasted time about Kate. We could have avoided the trial by just starting will her getting off and a quickly explaining. Use the rest of the time to give us some clues about Jack and Kate in the future. As for on the island, we got nothing new except the chopper did not get to the boat easily. Did anybody expect it to? I love the show but the same characters keep acting the same way (getting conned in the same way or playing the same tired love triangles). I want to see the characters evolve some. Overall average progression from eggtown.
Kate episodes are not really the best episodes of Lost. She had some great ones, but for the most, they are very average.
This is yet again another average episode. It mostly took place at Locke's camp which means we don't get too much action. The episode mostly focused on Kate's (as usual) troubled relationship(s).
Kate wants to find out if she's still wanted, and of course, she turns to Miles. This was rather silly I thought. Miles asks Kate to get him together with Ben for a few minutes. This of course means Kate has to con Locke, and risk their safety.
Pretty complicated, yes? So why didn't Kate just ask Dan while he was with Jack, or Miles BEFORE he was captured? Anyway, Sawyer and Kate conning Locke was fun, but Locke's behaviour was way too out of character. First of all I enjoyed the scene at the beginning of the episode: Locke bringing food to Ben who won't reveal a thing to poor John which makes him angry - just like in season 2.
But, this wasn't the same Locke from the first 3 episodes. He seemed way too unsure about himself. This was the Locke from season 2: but after seeing Ghost Walt, finding out that the button has a purpose, meeting Jacob and leading a whole group of survivors, this barely made any sense.
Locke banishing Kate after she tricked him was very childish too and out of character. Luckily though, he did punish Miles too by making him bite on a grenade - now that was the Locke we came to love.
Another character acting odd was Claire: all of sudden she wanted to talk to Miles and she was all happy and cheery: it's been only about 2 days since Charlie died! Not cool.
Kate breaking up with Sawyer - not cool either. First of all, why was Kate pissed off? Because Sawyer was happy that she wasn't pregnant. Wait a bit. How does she even know, all of sudden, that she's NOT pregnant? This made VERY VERY little sense, Kate is aware of that if she is pregnant and stays on the island, she and the baby could die.
Luckily for us, the flashforwards were better. We find out who Kate referred to as "him" in the Jack flashforward: her son, who really isn't hers. It's Aaron - makes us wonder, how did he end up with Kate instead of Claire? While this wasn't as big as the reveal that Sayid's working for Ben, it was definitely awesome and "WOW" worthy. Kate's court scenes were good, though unrealistic. However her interaction with Jack was superb, just as her interactions with her mother. Emotional, and full of information. Kate's deal that she won't leave the country for years was a nice little thing. If she wants to obey the laws, there's no way for her to "Go back"...
Verdict: on a whole, much like with "The Economist" the island portion of the episode was weak, but the flashforward was great. Island: 6/10, Flashforwards: 9/10, which gives us a score around 7: very average for Lost. Enjoyable, yes. But slow moving, sometimes a bit illogical and lots of out of character moments.
This wasn't such a great episode of Lost. What happened in one episode, i felt could have happened in half an episode. This season has been great so far but this what a bit of a filler. We already know that Ben has wanted and he is special in one way or another. So Miles cared more about money that Ben.
This episode was all over the place. Nice to see Kate in the flashforward but I hope and pray that the baby isn't Claire's.
Locke and his Grenade was cruel but it's only what they deserve for not telling the truth.
It's not often that we find out so much things in only one episode. Having that said, it all happens in Kates Flash-Forwards. Back on the island the pace of the storyline is really slow and not much happens. We learn a bit more about Ben, but the scenes with Kate and Claire (who has become really one-dimensional) are boring as hell. The best scenes are the ones with Locke. He is becoming more and more complex and unpredictable. After such a fast start this season I can live with the few problems this episode has. But we shouldn't forget that LOST isn't just about revealing secrets. It's about storytelling and I still believe that Kate is the least interesting character of all survivors. The big twist at the end was a brilliant shocker, but it worries me that LOST might be too much about Kate and Jack in the future.
A lot of doors for future storylines are opened here. But I hope we get back to a faster pace and more interesting characters soon.
This is an episode that appealed to me a bit less then some of the other ones. After all, the flashforward doesn't reveal much that we didn't already know. It also raises a lot more questions that the other flashbacks should have told us.. Then again, maybe it's because I've seen so many trials on the various Law and Orders and David E. Kelley shows that I can't help but look at the flaws. But then again, maybe the writers of Lost don't consider courtroom fare part of their work.
The list of charges levied at Kate is impressive, yet I'm pretty sure that the D.A. could've gone further. Wasn't she responsible for a bank robbery that led to the deaths of four other people in 'Whatever the Case May Be'? Or shouldn't she have been tried for accessory for the death of Tom in 'Born to Run'? We know the marshal knew about it in 'Exodus'; why didn't the D.A. even try? Even if the charges were dismissed, it certainly would have made Kate look guiltier. And if Diane hadn't flaked on the murder of her father (we'll get to that in the middle) she would have still had to stand trial for those charges.
And the presentation was even more wrong. Everyone who's seen an episode of L.A. Law knows that the prosecution presents its entire case and then the defense starts playing character witnesses. And why didn't Kate want to testify? From all the evidence we've seen, her father was an abusive drunk who might have molested her for years. Even given the extenuating circumstances, I find it hard to believe that any jury, celebrity status or not, would have found her guilty. And this is the same jury pool that let O.J. walk.
Because the flashbacks are full of these loopholes, this undercuts 'Eggtown'. Which is a bit of pity because what's happening on the island is fascinating. Locke has taken over the barrack (popularly referred to as New Otherton) and is trying to get information out of Ben. And once again, even though he has the advantage, Ben is still toying with him What's more, Locke is revealing that he's got an ultra-violent streak that is not at all appealing. The scene where he puts a grenade in Miles' mouth, awesome as it was, is not something that Locke would have done even a month ago. However, this is Kate's story, and despite what Sawyer reminded her of just one day earlier, she still needs to know if they know about her. So she gets Miles out the boathouse, and then does a master juggling act of getting Miles and Ben in the same room. This leads to another of the high points where, even if you understand it, it still has the propensity to thrill, as Ben admits more to Miles in one minute than he has to Locke in three days of captivity. It's also clear that Ben, for the first time, seems at something of a disadvantage, but then he such a good poker player, we can't really tell if he's being level. What crimes did Ben commit? Who does Miles work for? Believe it or not, we're actually on the verge of getting some answers.
Then there's more of the relationship between Kate and Sawyer. Kate seems overly concerned about getting pregnant (we assume that's what's happened because of the flashforward) but why is she so concerned about it here? The obvious answer is that she's talked with Sun or Juliet and they've told her that all pregnant women die in their second trimester. But the way that Kate behaves in the episode, I'm pretty sure that she doesn't know that. Considering that, I think Sawyer's attitude towards Kate in their final scene together is somewhat justified. Kate does seem to be flitting between Jack and Sawyer for the past three seasons, and now that rescue does seem imminent, she's doing it again, under much harsher circumstances. Does she not want to set down roots? Is she always someone who has to be on the run? Seems that way.
Of course, when the final flashforwards are taking place, it seems that's what's going on. Kate is a mother, and she seems more than willing to stop running for her child (Even if, as we find out in the last word of the episode, that's it's not really her son.) But maybe Kate doesn't want to lie anymore. Perhaps that is the reason that she doesn't want Jack to tell his story, because she doesn't seem to want to accept the cons that have been spinning (Or maybe she finds that the cons are so obvious that it would be hard enough for anyone to believe. After all, everyone seems to be going to pretty elaborate means to say that during her testimony and after everything that we're supposed to believe here, especially when everyone seems to be bend over backwards not to mention who Kate's son is.)
Kate also manages to face down the last ghost that has been stalking her---- dear old Mom. Yes, it's nice that she found a place in that cold black shell that Diane calls a heart not to testify against her daughter, but it doesn't change the fact that she hasn't so much as come to visit her since whatever rescue is coming. And even then, she wants something --- to see her grandson. One of the strongest scenes comes when Kate tells Diane she'd rather rot in prison then let her dying mother meet him. Good for Kate.
Of course, right now, it's beginning to look like no one is going to get rescued. After all, the helicopter that was carrying Sayid and Desmond took off yesterday, and yet somehow has not reached the freighter. What the hell is going on now? Is there some significance in the fact that Dan whispered that he had to stay on the exact same coordinates? Maybe that's why the first helicopter we saw near the island crashed.
In many way Lost has been all about cons, and that's certainly true of 'Eggtown'. Jack, who seemed to be the most forthright person on the island, now is maintaining the largest con of all on the rest of the world, and Kate seems willing to do so. Sawyer and Kate pull one of the better cons against Locke when they managed to get Miles and Ben into the same place. Miles seems to be willing to maintain another con, as long as he gets his. And Kate is now willing to con the world into thinking she was a great hero when in actuality the child she was supposedly carrying isn't even hers. As is often the case on the show, Kate seems to get away with it, and unlike Hurley and Sayid, she doesn't seem to be paying any huge price for it.
Yet one can't help but remember the words of that supposed psychic Richard Malkin when Claire came to him about her pregnancy -- he told her that her child "must not be raised by another". At the time his actions seemed designed to get Claire on the island, but now that it actually seems to be happening, is there something to it? Will Kate eventually have to pay a price for raising Aaron? And, if so, what form will it take? (This is a hint to the writers, too; you'd better explain if Aaron has more significance than you've given him, and you're running out of time.)
My score:7.5 (more because of the legal issues than any specific problem with the episode.)
For the 1st time this season, the island retread loses steam, the flashforward isn't intriguing or too emotional, and the characters' motivations aren't very clearly defined. Yet, there are some redeeming scenes that make for an entertaining watch.
Kate episodes usually aren't Lost's best moments. Her strongest episode, Tabula Rasa, was also her first, and benefitted from the 'blank slate' of her character, and from the momentum from the pilot episode. Some members of the Lost fanbase find Kate's off-island stories unappealing, weak, or repetitive. True, they don't have Locke's extreme pathos, or Desmond's direct connection to the story. Yet, perhaps like Sawyer's flashbacks, they often stand alone as compelling stories, while managing to tell a cohesive tell about her journey to become the person we see on the island. Why the bad rep then. Perhaps Kate episodes suffer because they are often transitional ones that don't need to be connected to her story. "I Do," for example, had a wonderful flashback, but the episode really hinged on Jack's daring move to get Kate and Sawyer off the island.
Eggtown felt similar. If this was anyone's story to own, it was Locke's. His struggles with leadership were far more compelling than Kate's new contemplation of motherhood tied with her stale concern about post-island life. The episode tried to feed both stories, and wound up shortchanging both. The Kate story in particular was confusing. What was her justification at the end for leaving Sawyer and the barracks? "I can't tolerate that you can't handle the thought of settling down to raise a family, you just-want-to-have-sex pig?" (1) This is news to me that she would find his relief at her non-pregnancy so unappealing. (2) The ending of her flashforward story, in which Jack refuses to see her kid, doesn't really amplify or justify the emotion of this choice, but rather just took us on a different path of curiosity, away from Kate (why won't JACK see Aaron?).
Locke's story suffers in that at the end, I wasn't driven to believe that he would really pull that kind of action hero move of the grenade in the mouth. Was he really driven to such extremes by Kate's lackadaisical betrayal? I know that the opening scene with Ben was supposed to establish his journey toward being a very insecure leader, but instead I found myself waiting for the rest of the episode to justify such a strong opening.
Thankfully, this doesn't seem like a jump-the-shark episode, or even a mid-season lull. The episode wasn't a bomb, and the next few will be populated by the always-intriguing Desmond and Juliet.
The main focus of this episode is Kate, and like all previous episodes that focus on her it doesn't quite hit the quality bar compared to other main character-based episodes like of say Jack, Locke or Sawyer.
Still, in my opinion, this is the best Kate-centric episode of LOST so far because it contains some pretty memorable scenes that stand out head and shoulders above the rest.
First, the on island events of this episode that involved Kate were quite boring. Anything that didn't focus on her was quite interesting: Locke's encounters with Ben, Miles and Ben and lastly the classic final "Miles and Locke confrontation".
The moment where Locke sticks a grenade in Miles' mouth and tells him to enjoy his breakfast was brilliant!
When Jack came into the picture in Kates flashforward, things got very interesting indeed.
We learn that Jack has been lying quite heavily about the events that occured on the island after the plane crash. He tells a court room under oath that Kate was the hero who saved him and everyone else, only according to him, only 8 people survived the crash.
A clear coverup to protect their friends they left behind from the large organisations that are yet to be revealed, who are trying to get to the island to use it for reasons not yet known!
Jack and Kate have a nice little scene together outside of the court room, this possibly shows us that they were involved for a short period but Jack clearly has some issues off the island, probably due to having to lie constantly about the on-island events and forgetting about the people they left behind.
The final scene: I feel was played out wrong, and heres why.
We learn that "Kate's Son" is actually Aaron, it is my belief that some tragic event must occur where they have to make a split second decision to take Aaron off the island and split him up from Clare, either that or Clare is no longer with us.
The scene ended with "Hey Aaron" and then some "Duh Duh Duh" music, I think this should have been more of a "Hey Aaron" and then about 30 seconds of slow, sad music making the viewer think "Why is Aaron off the island, what could possibly happen to make that happen?"
The flash forward was pretty intense, I enjoyed every bit of it, maybe except the fact that it was slow, the island happenings were great as well and the only thing I disliked was how early I predicted the so-called twist at the end.
Kate, how I love Kate. Well, enough of my personal feelings for Evangeline Lilly, I shall get on with what happened in this episode. The court scene, family scene and the Jate scene were all so emotional, intense and pretty much nerve-wrecking for me. I always wanted Jack and Kate to end up together and they eventually did, I guess, at least as much as I know. Anyway, whatever was happening on the island was surely really, well you could say very fast paced and just sort of, "woah," "huh," "what," for me pretty much. The only bad side about this episode is that it will take forever before I see another Kate-centric episode. *Sob*
Now this is more like it! This is how the flashforwards should be used, showing crucial moments in the characters' lives that we've always wanted to see. If all the flashforwards are as good as this from now on the we'll never tire of them!
The first thing to point out about this week's episode is that there wasn't any previously sequence (although I felt it had more need for one than the first two episodes). Also the episode began with the trademark close-up on someone's eye shot which they hadn't done yet this season. Doing this reminded me of the first season, when things were simpler and gave a comforting feel. I think that's the best thing about this episode, it felt comfortable, like an episode from one of the earlier seasons. I prefer that this one was far more character oriented than the previous ones. It focused a bit on the Kate/Sawyer/Jack love triangle, but as far as love triangles go this one is actually handled pretty well. None of the characters really moved around much either, so the island action was simply split between the barracks and the beach, which I think works out better than everyone being all over the place.
One thing that was very different from the earlier season was that this was yet another flashforward episode. However unlike last week's this had a very definite point, it wasn't just filler until the (un)shocking ending. What will happen to Kate if she gets off the island is as big a landmark as how Locke ended up in a wheelchair. The only difference is that until last spring we thought they'd never get round to it. But here it was and it was great! I'm guessing Kate's lawyer was from those good people at Oceanic or whoever's claiming to be them, so there was a good chace he'd get Kate off. Although to be fair we knew that because she seemed free as a bird at the end of season 3. Thankfully they didn't play too much on would Kate get off or not, but rather how she would. This was done brilliantly in small steps that all led up to the believability that she would be allowed to go free.
Firstly there was the reveal that she had a son. Which nicely answered who the "he" she mentioned in the season 3 finale was. Then there was good old Jack, still beardless and apparently sober. But as this episode wasn't about him it didn't matter that we didn't get much of how messed up he is (or is becoming at least). Then came Kate's invalid mother. I recognised her name on the guest credits so for a moment thought the writing staff had forgotten that the last time we saw her she seemed to be at death's door. Fortunately they hadn't and it allowed for a particularly nice and moving scene. After the trial she had another nice little scene with Jack that showed there could still be a future for the two of them. Kate's comments towards Jack about her child had me thinking for a moment that maybe he was the father, although I never strayed from my first guess as to who the kid's dad was.
And I was right not too. In fairness I couldn't actually remember the father's name, but that didn't matter because I'd figured out that it was Claire's son Aaron who Kate was claiming as her own. I didn't think they'd have Kate be pregnant from a purely thematic perspective more than anything else. Kate's meant to be the main sex appeal on the show (although I still prefer Claire myself) and so making her pregnant wouldn't be the best move from that perspective. On top of that Claire a bit more to do than usual in an episode that she wasn't really a major part of. All that led me to the correct assumption as to the identity of Kate's child. However unlike last week's ending I was pleased with myself that I'd managed to guess the ending of an episode of Lost. I thought the ending of "The Economist" was pretty predictable and so it didn't do much for me, whereas before that I think I'd only ever guessed the ending of an episode once!
Although the flashforwards were the main part of this episode there was still loads that happened on the island. Kate was now staying with Claire in the barracks which allowed for a couple of nice scenes between the two of them. Although they haven't had much screentime together on the show what they have has been pretty important. Kate delivered Claire's baby and helped her find the medical station, so it's perfectly believable that they're friends. There was also a lot of Kate and Sawyer scenes too, which was great because we got to see Evangeline Lily in her underwear! Always good. Of course there was just as much nudity on show for the female audience thanks to Sawyer. It would appear that there's a good gym somewhere in the barracks because there's no way he'd be in that kind of shape even if he had been living off only fruit and fish for the last three months! The chemistry between the two and well written scenes meant that the nudity always seemed necessary and never just tacked on as a ratings ploy or anything.
Locke on the other hand wasn't so good in this episode. I'm not too happy with where his character's going this season. I understand that he wants to protect the island, but he seems to be going too far to do it. When he blew up all chances of escape last season it was understandable because he clearly didn't want any chance of his dad finding him. Here however it isn't the same, although putting a grenade in Miles' mouth was pretty cool. Because Miles is such a jerk it kind of made it ok for Locke to do that, although I couldn't help thinking that Miles should've just spat the grenade at Locke and let them both blow up. Locke's still okay for now, but they're going to have to give us another great Locke episode before they can really justify what he appears to be willing to do on the island.
Back at the beach it was nice to see Jin and Sun again, Jin in particular as this episode actually held his first line of this season! His English has clearly come on a long way and I like that he wants to make a life for Sun in America. Their conversation is most likely to set up a later storyline, but either way it's good to see them. Then there's Daniel and Charlotte who joined the beach camp. I'm still not sold on them, in fact my favourite newcomer was Frank and he was the only one of the three who isn't a main character. As with last week Daniel seems to be showing another more supernatural side of the show, by seemingly tying to focus some kind of psychic ability. Of course I could be way off and they may have just been playing a memory game, but I'm guessing that and the time delay from last week will come into play later in the season. These little moments are good for giving hints to the fans, but I'm still not big on where the show seems to be going with them.
Well, I think I've covered the main points of the episode. There was the issue of another con from Sawyer, but I'd guessed he was conning Locke all along. It made little difference in the end as the story would've worked either way. Miles also had a short scene with Ben, which will likely be of large importance down the line. But watching this episode in its own right, it was all about Kate. All of her scenes were done excellently and we got a whole load of information thrown at us as well as just as many new questions. But that's how Lost works and we love it. This episode worked well as a self-containing episode, and also drove forward the overall story. Despite some of the latter parts not being perfect, the main focus of the episode was excellent. A truly great episode that made the best use of the flashforward mechanic so far this season.
It wasn't an unwatchable episode, only a weak one… First of all, the path they're leading Locke into is getting ridiculous. As much as I enjoyed seeing Miles with a grenade in his mouth, it was stupid from Locke doing it… what if it accidentally falls? How is he going to get his answers? Come on! Locke is more intelligent than that! And that's one of the things that bothered me about this episode, characters felt out of character… Sawyer wasn't our old Sawyer, not even Kate was recognizable… Kate's trial… well… for Lost it would be more believable if she got away with it because some big influences (similar to those who planted the fake plane) had pulled the strings into making Kate look innocent, but she got free because her mother's heart finally worked and decided not to testify? Come on!!!! Too much rush for having only 48 episodes left? It seems like they wanted to finish with that business as fast as Kate... I think it was a big deal from season 1 how Kate was going to deal with her guilt and finishing it this way, well… It just doesn't make that storyline justice… Some people have complaints on how Claire isn't grieving after Charlie's death… well, If someone has read my previews reviews and comments on Claire, I've always said she never loved Charlie… It felt like she always was tired from him, trying to put him aside… maybe that's why she feels ok with it, but Hurley acting all normal and ok with his best friend's death… that is not believable…
And talking about Claire, although she isn't one of my favorite characters, what happened to Desmond's vision of her getting on the helicopter with Aaron… and why leaving Aaron to Kate? If something happened to Claire, wouldn´t it felt more natural that she left Aaron to Sun (She has baby-sit for Claire before, she's pregnant, she's not a fugitive, she has a "Family"…) They have some HUG explaining to do with this matter and I hope they elaborate that explanation better than Kate's trial…
Now… I still love Lost and there are a some new interesting questions that we can say saved this episode from being unwatchable: *Millionaire Ben … interesting… although Miles black-mailing him only for the money? Too shallow for Lost… *Jack's comment: There were 8 survivors… if so, why only Oceanic six?
*Daniel "Remembering" some cards?... Well, a little bit "Desmondiac" feeling here… eager to see where that's going to…
I don't like to criticize Lost, because for me is one of the best written shows on TV -if not the best, but it worries me that in order of finishing the show in 48 episodes and give "answers" to those who can't wait, they're rushing thins up and sacrificing the show's quality… I know they can still deliver great stories like The economist and I'm really expecting next week's episode, because not only is Desmond's centric (I hope they don't kill this character) and is written by Carlton and Damon, but also will explain some more things about the people behind the rescue and the freighter… I hope one day Eggtown gets lost into context and we manage to appreciate it as much as other episodes…
It was really great story on emotional level and the flash forawrd of Kate - it was rather interesting. First the son thing and the connection with the Claire's talking about Kate should try it. And the end - I am not even sure if I get it right but if yes - wow. Another really stunning thing for the future.
When the flash forward was something really amazing, I cannot say the same thing about the events on island - they were somehow quite plain and I knew they tried to trick us for a while and make us think that Sawyer would have betrayed Kate but no - he would not do that.
So, it was good episode but not as good as previous ones.
Kate episodes tend to split the audience. Much like Sawyer episodes, Kate episodes are character driven, therefore her episodes feel "disconnected" from the main storyline. This time around, it doesn't fully apply, but partly, yes, it does.
The island plot was really good episode. I enjoyed it more than in the previous one. Locke going season2-crazy is intriguing. I'm sure most of you have noticed, but in the opening, the writers copied a scene from a season 2 episode(Maternity Leave). Locke and Ben has almost the same conversation, and Locke has the same reaction. I'm not much of a "shipper", but the romantic storyline between Sawyer and Kate was done very well. Much better than in the 3rd season I believe. But for me, the best part was Miles' odd conversation with Ben. Why does he want exactly 3.2 million? Who Ben is? Is Ben using the island mainly to hide? Maybe, afterall, Ben isn't that connected to the island as he claims. Another scene I thought was incredible... well, Locke's and Miles'. I've never seen that grenade trick before, and I wouldn't have thought that it'd be Lost where I see it first. 24, maybe. Lost, no way. It was awesome! Such a badass moment for John. The beach storyline was good. I loved the Sun/Jin moment at the beginning. I think it sets up their flashforward. Also,Charlotte calling the boat... I got goosebumps. The helicopter never arrived on the freighter. So I guess next episode's going to be "helicopter-centric". I can't wait.
But before jumping to the next episode, let's see the flashforward...
It was good. It dragged at times, but it was good. First of: Evangeline Lilly is beautiful. I mean, wow. Secondly... the ending. Amazing. Such an emotional moment turned into a shocking revelation within about 2 seconds. I didn't really see it coming, although I had my suspicion when I saw that Kate's "son" has blonde hair. This raises many questions, but first and foremost: What happened to Claire? Was Desmond's vision wrong? Did Desmond lie? Did Claire die in the future?
The scene with Kate and her mother was very moving too, but unfortunately, some of the court scenes were "meh". Jack's testemony was interesting, though. He claims only 8 people survived the crash, and 2 died later on -- that'd be the O6. Obviously they're forced to lie. Overall, great episode, but it didn't advance the main storyline much.
So Eggtown was the weakest episode of this fine start of season 4. But given the actual standards of this show, even the weakest of the 4 was pretty good.
The problem with the episode was that some things(still few tho), including the cliffhanger was pretty predictable, which is rare. I saw the Aaron thing coming 10 minutes into the episode. Also it was clear Sawyer was fooling Locke with the backgammon thing, still funny tho.
I love pretty much every Sawyer-Kate scenes. These two have so much chemistry between them. However, Jack and Kate=zero chemistry, present or future.
There was some interesting points in the court, specially when Jack said there was only 8 survivors. On the island, I `m loving the way the Locke team is living, just like the others before. Sad Kate is leaving. It was a letdown we did not see Sayid and Desmond but that`s for next time I guess. I think the fact they still haven`t reach the boat is due to that relative time thing.
Too little of Dan too, I like the character so I want to see more but that`s a big cast to supply. Looks like Dan has some memo problems.
As for Miles, looks like he`s in some big troubles. :D(locke is badass!!) For some reasons, I`m not convinced with his blackmail thing.
The next installment could not come sooner. Hopefully we`ll see what happens to Sayid and Desmond.
I normally don't like Kate episodes. I haven't actually enjoyed one since Born to Run back in the first season. What Kid Did and Left Behind were both really boring compared to the other character's flashbacks. Anyway, this one did actually advance the plotline, so I'm thankful for that. I had seen a spoiler about the baby, so I wasn't surprised at all. I wish I had been though. It certainly made for a little plot twist. I'm very curious as to why Jack has a problem with Kate having Aaron, though. They must have made some nasty deal to get off the island.
THis episode was mainly about Kate and her court hearing after she escapes the island. Jack makes an appearance in this future scene, and we know that the events happening here are still long before that flash forward last season where Jack called Kate and meant her to tell her they need to go back. I wonder what exactly happened. As usual the creators of Lost are keeping us sort of lost.
We are given scenes involving Kate and Sawyer back on the island which seems to explain the son that Kate is taking care of now in the flash forward. I'm left to wonder if the son is Sawyer's, and even if it is, it doesn't appear Sawyer made it off the island. Of course at the end we are given the big reveal about the baby which caught me totally by surprise. I won't spoil it for anybody who hasn't seen this episode yet, but it rivals last week's surprise conclusion.
THe scenes on the island were sort of boring this week, except for the scenes dealing with Locke. Locke seems to be losing it like he did back in the hatch. Once again Ben seems to be pulling his strings, and he is allowing his emotions to get the best of him. THe scenes involving the two of them are much like when Ben was being held prisoner back at the hatch and Locke was looking over him. WHat Locke does to poor Miles was truly horrifying and not something I exactly expected from Locke.
Other than Kate and Locke, nothing else really stuck out in this episode. We did learn a little information about the island's mysterious time changes, well I think it was this episode since I watched both this week's and last week's episodes together and might be combining the two, but nothing more. Overall a good episode.
In a thrilling episode, Kate is released (in a flash-forward) only if she stays in the United States. On the island, Kate betrays John and Sawyer as she allows Miles to gain exactly one minute with Benjamin Linus. This turns out to be very confusing at times.
Jack continued leading and instructing for the better of his team of course. But the end brought a shocking realization that Sayid (who took the helicopter last week) and those with him are no where to be found. For the the conclusion, it was a darn good one!
Overall, this episode gave answers and had a great amount of suspense and action. Each episode as it comes proves to be better than the one before. Great work producers.
In general, I thought this episode had far less revelations (or even questions) than episodes past. In fact I can't really say what I feel like I learned from this episode, aside from the very last scene with Kate and the baby. *SPOILERS*
We find out that Kate's baby is named Aaron, and presumably, is Claire's baby, Aaron. Though that's as far as you get as the episode ends. After greatly leading the viewer on to believe that Kate's baby was fathered by Sawyer, I admit, this was a cool twist.
That being said, the rest of the episode didn't seem to do much for me. Especially with the level of satisfaction and intrigue I've come away with from the other episodes this season. Not a bad episode, but not a classic, either.
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