Season 2 Episode 12

Fire + Water

Aired Sunday 9:00 PM Jan 25, 2006 on ABC
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Episode Summary

When Charlie's vividly surreal dreams lead him to believe Claire's baby, Aaron, is in danger, Locke suspects Charlie may be using again. Meanwhile, Sawyer encourages Hurley to act on his attraction to Libby.

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  • Fire + Water

    This is a unique episode that's unfortunately religion-based but is highlighted by deep explorations for an underrated character, satisfying subplots, and strong flashbacks.
  • Garbage!

    I love LOST, but this is entirely the worst episode of the far! It is horribly written and it serves absolutely no purpose for the mythology of the show. They really sh*t all over Dominic's character, which make the audience hopeless that he will ever be a "good" person on the island. I think that deep down, we are all rooting for Charlie (dealing with family issues, drug addiction, depression from no longer being a part of Drive Shaft) and this particular episode just makes the audience feel like saying "Damn Charlie, you suck!". Furthermore, it's completely boring. The only thing that saves this episode is that Kate is involved. She's hot. I know that writing this review in September 2013 (three years after the finale) is pointless, but I just want to put it out there!moreless
  • Religion, the Opiate of the Masses!

    Statuettes of the Virgin Mary contain heroine?

    A visual pun for "Religion, the Opiate of the Masses!"
  • Locke's True Colors

    This is the episode where Charlie loses it, and you find out what a self-righteous prick Locke really is. I really never liked Locke very much after this episode.
  • Poor Execution!!!!!

    From the Writers Perspective:

    Charlie has is fans, so the producers know that they have to do a episode centered on him.

    However, the writers have no idea how to do that, since Charlie is not a strong characters and is very difficult to build a story centering him, that is worth watching and not boring.

    This episode show how the writers are "Lost".

    So what they did? They tried to tied the Island way to send messages to Charlie. This was very bad done, since even religion was put into this episode. This was unnecessary. Even Characters like locke made things out of their character.

    Overall, the writers tried create a purpose to charlie, tied is old addiction to make it difficult to be able to make it and with it, we have some poor scenes and a worthless flashbacks.

    My Point of View:

    The worst epiosode of Lost, no doubts about it. This episode separates super fan from regular fans. This is noticed from fans opinion, since there are fans that like all the episodes.

    Not all was bad in this episode, is just everything abot charlie was bad executed, even the flashbacks.

    Overall, this episode was worthless to watch and very boring too.moreless
Jeremy Shada

Jeremy Shada

Young Charlie

Guest Star

Zack Shada

Zack Shada

Young Liam

Guest Star

Sammi Davis

Sammi Davis

Megan Pace

Guest Star

Neil Hopkins

Neil Hopkins

Liam Pace

Recurring Role

Trivia, Notes, Quotes and Allusions


  • TRIVIA (17)

    • In a Catholic baptism, a godparent is required during the ceremony. Only under extreme circumstances, such as imminent death, would the requirement be waived. Claire and Aaron are baptized with no godparents. This is likely because the only acknowledged Catholic character eligible to serve as a godparent is Charlie. Moreover, Catholic doctrine forbids the baptism of an adult (such as Claire) unless they have professed faith in the basic truths of Christianity, but Mr. Eko did not ask Claire anything about her beliefs.

    • Numbers: 8

      There are 8 Virgin Mary statues altogether in this episode. 1 that Charlies breaks, then 7 more that Locke locks up in the armory of the hatch.

    • Numbers: 8

      When Charlie and his band, Driveshaft, are recording the diaper commercial, the Director tells them to "rotate on the 8 cam."

    • The set used to depict Charlie's house during his dream sequence is the same set used for the psychic's home in "Raised by Another." The furniture and drapes have been changed, though.

    • When Charlie smashes the Virgin Mary Statue on to the ground, he grabs 2 bags with heroin, though there are 3 on the ground.

    • Island events in this episode take place on November 14th, November 15th and November 16th 2004.

    • The print hanging in Charlie's boyhood home during his first dream is Leonardo da Vinci's "Baptism of Christ" one of the Master's earliest works. Later he sees Claire and his mother as angels from this painting in his second dream of Aaron floating out to sea.

    • Error: When Jack brings Ana-Lucia the blue plastic sheet for her shelter, he tells her to secure it tight so it doesn't sag, yet they continue to tie the sheet up with a considerable sag in the middle which, when it rains, would collect a lot of water.

    • In a deleted scene for this episode, Libby tells Hurley that she has been married three times in total but some of them were annulled. Hurley tells Libby about winning the lottery and she believes him. She also agrees to go on a walk with him some time.

    • We learned in the Charlie-centric episode "The Moth" that Charlie was very religious in the early years of Driveshaft before being seduced by drugs. This religious aspect of his life is symbolised by the Virgin Mary statues being used to smuggle heroin (Charlie's drug of choice). His religious past also comes into play where his mother and Claire were dressed as angels.

    • We learn that Charlie used to live in the London suburb, Brixton.

    • In the second dream sequence that Charlie has when he sees Claire and his mother dressed as angels, though you can only see it fully when viewed with an HDTV, in the upper-left corner of the screen, just above the trees, you can see the drug plane that Eko's brother was in flying by and crashing. Then the dove appears.

    • During the scene following the botched commercial Charlie is trying to get finished, you quickly see the building talked about. This building is the same one you can find on the cover of the Pink Floyd album, Animals. Speaking of which, the crib Drive Shaft performs in has several stuffed polar bears in it.

    • Libby asks Hurley if the washing machines in the hatch are newer than everything else. This has been widely discussed on several internet forums.

    • Hurley refers to the group of people including Ana Lucia, Libby, Eko, etc. as "The Tailies" a term commonly used in the Lost internet forums.

    • While playing blackjack with Hurley, Sawyer gets 6 and argues that he must assume the next card he draws will bring his total to 16, one of the "numbers".

    • If we recall, in season 1 Charlie mentioned that he didn't swim. Yet in the dream of his, he swam to the ocean and save the baby. This isn't quite a goof. Sigmund Freud's theory about dreaming was called the wish-fulfilment theory, in which you dream about things or abilities you wish you had.

  • QUOTES (24)

    • Libby: I cannot believe you don't remember stepping on my foot.
      Hurley: I did?
      Libby: Yes, you did. And it was hard. I know that because I remember you... you were the last one on the flight, and you were all sweaty, and you had headphones on and... crunch. You stepped on my foot.

    • Sawyer: (About Ana and Jack) That's the third time I've seen them walking out of the jungle. (suggestively) What do you suppose they're doing out there?
      Kate: Why don't you just do your exercises, Sawyer?

    • Libby: Is this washer and dryer newer than everything else in here?
      Hurley: It washes clothes. That's all I need to know.
      Libby: Ah, finally, someone who keeps it simple.

    • Charlie: Who the hell are you, John? Aaron's not your responsibility. Where were you when he was born? Where were you when he was taken? You're not his father. You're not his family.
      Locke: Neither are you, Charlie.

    • Liam: I'm clean. I haven't used in two days.
      Charlie: Two days? Well, happy anniversary!

    • Charlie: Did you tell Locke you gave me one of those statues from the plane?
      Eko: Why would I do that?
      Charlie: He knows, man. Bald wanker knows something.
      Eko: Something wrong, Charlie?
      Charlie: Apart from me losing my mind? No, everything's just peachy.
      Eko: Why would you say you are losing your mind?
      Charlie: How about the fact that I've been sleepwalking? Stealing babies from their cribs? Oh yeah, and then there's the vivid dreams that make me feel like I'm completely awake until, of course, I wake up.

    • Sawyer: Well, well, look who's off to the laundromat? Well, go on. I'm sure you've got a load you need to drop in, don't you, Jethro?
      Hurley: I'm kind of waiting for my moment.
      Sawyer: Well, your moment is now, Hoss. Hey Libby! (Sawyer goes inside his tent so Libby thinks Hurley called to her. Hurley waves.)
      Libby: Hey yourself.

    • Kate: (to Sawyer) What's with you? You're acting like you're in junior high.

    • Charlie: Oh, by the way, you have a daughter. Her name's Megan.
      Liam: (Smiling) After mum?
      Charlie: Yeah, after mum. Now clean yourself up. You're a sodding father now.

    • Charlie: (To Aaron) See ya, mate. Take care of your mom now, okay.

    • Eko: It is said that when John the Baptist baptized Jesus the skies opened up and a dove flew down from the sky. This told John something, that he had cleansed this man of all his sins. That he had freed him. Heaven came much later.
      Claire: I haven't been baptized. And does that mean that if you do it to Aaron, and something happened to us, we wouldn't be together?
      Eko: Not if I baptize you both.

    • Charlie: (Aaron in arms) I'm not gonna hurt him, Claire.
      Claire: You're hurting me, Charlie.

    • Charlie: Aaron is in danger. You have to believe me.
      Locke: You've given up the right to be believed, Charlie.

    • Locke: (to Claire) Charlie just feels that he has to save the baby, because he can't save himself.

    • Charlie: I wrote a song. It's about two brothers.....
      Liam: Two brothers who should be butchers?

    • (About Kate)
      Ana Lucia: Are you hitting that?
      Jack: What?
      Ana Lucia: Plane crash, nice beach, she's hot, you're hot. It's what people do.
      Jack: No, I'm not hitting that.

    • Charlie: What are you doing?
      Mr Eko: Marking trees.
      Charlie: Why?
      Mr Eko: Because these are the ones I like.

    • Video Director: (to Charlie about Liam) You want my advice, ditch that one, he's a bloody disaster.

    • Locke: (to Charlie) Trust is a hard thing to win back.

    • (sees Jack and Ana Lucia exiting the jungle)
      Sawyer: Looks like Ana Lucia is getting the twenty dollar tour.

    • Charlie: I just wish we could go back to the way things were before ...
      Claire: There is no before, Charlie. We were strangers on a plane and we became friends.
      Charlie: Now, Locke's your friend.

    • Charlie's Mom: You're special love. Someday you're gonna get us out of here. All of us.

    • Locke: Are you using?
      Charlie: What?
      Locke: Heroin? Are you using it again?
      Charlie: Kate sees a horse. Nothing. Pretty much everyone's seen Walt wandering around the jungle. But when its Charlie, it must be the bloody drugs, right?

    • Sawyer: (noticing Hurley's interest in Libby) You got a little love connection brewing over there, Jabba?

  • NOTES (6)


    • The Beverly Hillbillies: Sawyer teases Hurley about doing his laundry with Libby and refers to him as Jethro. Jethro Bodine was a fictional character in this 1960s television sitcom.

    • Bonanza: Sawyer calls Hurley "Hoss". Eric "Hoss" Cartwright was a big man, the warm and lovable middle son of Ben Cartwright in this TV cowboy show that aired from 1959 to 1973.

    • The Baptism of Christ: The painting hanging on the wall in Charlie's dream is The Baptism of Christ by Andrea del Verrocchio and assisted on by Leonardo da Vinci. It depicts the baptism of Jesus by John the Baptist. Charlie's vision on the beach is based on this painting, with Claire and her mother assuming the positions of the angels to the left. Claire is the one that in the original painting was executed by Leonardo. Although Jesus and John do not appear in Charlie's vision, the angels appear (Claire and his mother), as does the dove that flew toward Charlie. In the painting, the dove is released from God's hands.

    • Charlie's brother, Liam, receives a Voltron for Christmas. During the 80's Voltron was a popular kid's show on television. The toy he received was the Lion Voltron.

    • Sawyer refers to Hurley as "Jabba," comparing him to the slug-like creature from the George Lucas' Star Wars films.

    • In Charlie's first dream of his childhood home, he sees his father cutting raw meat on a butcher block with a cleaver. When he looks back his father decapitates a doll. This is a reference to the famous censored Beatles album cover for "Yesterday and Today" where the Fab Four were pictured in butcher's smocks, surrounded by meat and decapitated dolls.