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what does "live together, die alone" mean?

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    emma5000

    [1]May 29, 2006
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    forgive me for (maybe) asking a really stupid question. what is meant by "live together, die alone"?

    i'm
    not a native speaker so i don't know if it's some kind of proverb.
    i've been thinking about it for quite some time now and i can't figure
    out why jack would state it to michael.
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    Divinations

    [2]May 29, 2006
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    we all come to this world alone

     and leave alone.....

    something like that.

    Do you remember what Jack said exactly?

    Edited on 05/29/2006 8:16am
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    emma5000

    [3]May 29, 2006
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    i've had to rewatch the scene first.

    jack made this statement in the scene where he finds michael out in the jungle all by himself seeming to be struggling with his consicence. michael thanks jack for having joined him and risking his neck to safe walt. jack then says: "life together, die alone, man!"
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    Noobs21

    [4]May 29, 2006
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    He means that the survivors have to learn to put aside their differences and trust one another. If they keep having their petty differences then they'll end up just alienating themselves from each other. So if they don't learn to live together and more or less be as one big group, they'll all be alone and eventually die, die alone.

    Hope that helps...

    Oh well...
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    Pfttttptths

    [5]May 29, 2006
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    The state motto of Kentucky: "United we stand, divided we fall"

    Just a passing thought.

    I have seen or read about similar phrases in history and literature, "Strength in numbers" etc. What Jack was saying is they had more possibility for success in their mission if they acted together instead of every individual working alone without co-ordination with the rest.
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    emma5000

    [6]May 29, 2006
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    noobs: thanks! that really would make sense. so it would be "live together or die alone" then?

    i'm sorry for being a little slow on the uptake right now ...
    Edited on 05/29/2006 9:08am
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    Rockstar_101

    [7]May 29, 2006
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    He means that since everyone was in a plane crash,and are stranded on an island, with NO rescue coming, if everyone cant help eachother out and get along with eachother, they might aswell die alone, Its pretty straightforward

    Edited on 05/29/2006 9:11am
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    emma5000

    [8]May 29, 2006
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    thank you guys!
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    Divinations

    [9]May 30, 2006
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    This is from the episode summary here at Tv.com

    The title of this episode is a reference to something Jack previously said. In White Rabbit, during Jack's monologue towards the end of the episode, he said, "...and if we can't live together, we're gonna die alone."

    It was once more quote by Kate in the opening to season 2, 'Man of Science, Man of Faith'.

    And once again in this episode, when Jack says it to Michael.

    Jack: Live together, die alone, right?
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    emma5000

    [10]May 30, 2006
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    thanks a lot! 

    i really had been slow on the uptake when i opened this topic i only just later realised that it was all a matter of accentuation within the sentence  ... 

    but these are really interesting information you've brought up about it so i guess this whole topic here hasn't been completely useless ... 
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    curbyourentropy

    [11]May 31, 2006
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    I find a lot of profound meaning in the title of the season finale... especially when you consider Desmond's words to Locke before the big electromagnetic explosion. He talked about how Locke had saved his life so he could save Locke's... and was basically revealing how connected they were and they didn't even know it.

    I remember reading/hearing/watching somewhere that at least one or both of the creators of Lost had been experiencing some spiritual growth, so to speak, before writing the show... I believe one of them had lost a father or grandfather or something, which had spurred him into thinking more about spiritual issues.

    At any rate, I think, especially in light of the incredibly philosophical/faith-oriented dialogue between Locke and Eko, that the emphasis on community in the show is more than just a survival thing... it's a spiritual thing as well.

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