Live Together, Die Alone (2)

Season 2, Episode 24, Aired
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After discovering something odd just offshore, Jack and Sayid come up with a plan to confront "The Others" and hopefully get Walt back. Meanwhile, Eko and Locke come to blows as Locke makes a potentially cataclysmic decision regarding the "button" and the hatch.
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  • Awesome.

    10
    "Perfect"
    By Sarah_LOST, Oct 12, 2010 Report Abuse
    Michael leads Jack, Kate, Sawyer and Hurley to the Others. Henry, the apparent leader of the Others, releases Hurley, takes Jack, Kate, and Sawyer as prisoners, and allows Michael and Walt to leave the island. Desmond returns and realizes that he crashed Flight 815 when he entered the numbers into the computer too late. Locke stops entering the numbers and traps himself, Mr. Eko and Desmond inside the hatch, which implodes. In flashbacks, Desmond is shipwrecked on the island and lives in the hatch with a man named Kelvin, whom he accidentally kills. Just where we left off - amazing last episoed and this episode was even better, I love the scene where Eko and Charlie are trying to get into Desmond and John. I love Charlie, I love it when he is running away from the explosion - amazingscenes. I love the scene where Jack and them get attacked. Oh and when Desmond says he crashed their plane - awesome. I love the scenes with Jack, Kate, Sawyer and Hurley. The hatch scenes are awesome especially when they don't push the button on eof the best scene ever, amazing ending of the season.moreless

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  • Talk about closing the season with a bang--- and that's before the last two minutes

    10
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    By DavidB226Morris, Sep 26, 2009 Report Abuse
    Whoa. We've made it to the end. And now that we're, it was a hell of trip. When we left Desmond and Locke, they had brought down the blast doors to keep Eko and Charlie from getting into the room with the computer. A flashback reveals not only that Desmond knew about the doors, he also knew about the map. Kelvin and Radzinski (who we learned committed suicide after too much time in the hatch But he's also known more than he thinks.. Because he also learned about the one part of the hatch that we never knew about--- the fail-safe key. The one thing that will destroy the station. This is foreshadowing, but we scarcely notice it, because Desmond's mind is clicking a lot faster than Locke's.

    Eventually, he learned there was no quarantine, and that Kelvin was repairing the boat he came in. Outraged at what he thinks was a lie, he kills him, and then runs back to the hatch--- to see the computer going haywire, the words' system failure' being said over and over and metallic objects flying. The kicker--- this happen on September 22, 2004--- the day that Oceanic 815 fell from the sky. It is now accepted that Desmond crashed the plane.

    Now, the obvious question, if Desmond knew that it was for real, why didn't he tell Jack and Locke about this when they broke the door down. Perhaps Desmond, who had been in the hatch for three years, thought it was an example of insanity. Maybe he thought the Dharma Initiative was testing him. Or maybe he thought that Locke was a man with he kind of faith that wouldn't falter. In his last flashback, we know Desmond was planning to kill himself when he opened the book he planned to read before he died--- and found a note from Penny, telling him that her love for him would never end, and that she would never give up on him. That night was also the night Boone died and Locke banged on the door. Turning the light on was not just a restoration of faith for Locke. It saved him as well.

    Now when Locke takes his determination to the extreme and smashes the computer, he knows that has to save him. Because Locke was wrong, and we finally see what happens when the hieroglyphics come up. Charlie manages to get clear somehow, but Eko and Locke live to see the world becoming a nightmare. The electromagnetic energy hits critical, and the only way to stop it is to blow the hatch. Which Desmond does.

    And, oh the results. The sky turns purple, a great whine is heard, and a light fills the entire island.. When it ended, I was now certain that we'd the last of Desmond. To paraphrase Locke (who uses it as the understatement of the century) I was wrong. But we won't figure out why he was saved and the consequences until the start of the next season.

    Now, on the other side of the island, Michael leads his party to the pneumatic tubes and a pile of notebooks--- proving, too late to do anyone any good that the Pearl was the psychological experiment, not the Swan. And the experiment has terrible result for Jack and the others, as they are hit with the Other equivalent of tasers, and end up tied up and gagged as the Others lead them to a dock. In addition to learning some of their name (Mr. Friendly is Tom, Miss Klugh is Bea) we finally meet the man behind them--- and it's none other than Henry Gale. (By the way, the Others seems to look filthy when dealer with the survivors. We won't see how neat they truly are until next season.)

    Henry doesn't look that pleased when he learns they have to let Walt and Michael go, but he agrees with arrangement. He tells them to keep on a head of 325 and they will find rescue. He also tells him some other things that are interesting. He says when they leave the island ,they will never be able to find their way back. Turns out that's not the case. He tells Michael that Walt was more than they bargained for--- which means they no longer think he serves a purpose, and are getting him as far from them as possible. But the most famous statement comes when Michael asks who they are: "We're the good guys." Now granted that Jack and the other survivors have killed four of the Others in the past two seasons, but in comparison with everything the Others have inflicted up till now, it's hard to see what he's talking about. We'll get a much closer look at how their society functions, but they do have a pretty realistic system of order, but does that excuse what they've done? It is not until Season 4, that we'll begin to understand why THEY consider themselves the 'good guys', but I'm still not sure I buy. Is it possible that anything associated with the island is capable of doing good? Are there any good and evil people here?

    One last thing: note the contempt in Henry's voice when he wishes Michael 'Bon voyage'. It's as if he knows even now that Michael is never going to be done with the island. Both Walt and Michael leave (Malcolm David Kelley pretty much had to; it's impossible to have a child growing up in a so short a time span) but neither of them are finished with the island.

    On the dock, Hurley is freed, with orders to return and tell his friends never to come after them. Jack, Kate and Sawyer--- they're coning with the Others. We're still not sure why they've been brought together, but from the expressions the three shoot each other, nothing good can cone of it.

    Awesome stuff-- but we're still not done. For the first time not in a flashback--- we don't know where we are; it looks like the Arctic or Siberia where two men are playing chess. Then they see a computer flashing the number 7418880. Meant nothing to me, except when you learn its 4*8*15*16*23*42. But, even while were still trying to rewrite theories as to what the island is, one of the men gets on the phone and says: "I think we've found it." And we see that he's talking to Penny, who has remained faithful to her lover. Perhaps she is the beacon that will save the survivors.

    This was an impressive end that did change the rules, and told us that while the series is about faith, it's also about love. Will Locke and Eko survive? Is Desmond going to live? What does the purple sky mean? What will happen to Kate, Jack and Sawyer? Where are Sayid, Jin and Sun? Is Penelope going to find the island? Several questions were answered, but a lot more were given--- which is what a season finale should do.
    My score:10moreless

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  • Perfect Pay oFF!!!

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    By Dante_Edy, Jul 09, 2009 Report Abuse
    Logic/Details - This episode focus on Interactions and how to make things more interesting for season 3. This is why Jack and Co are Captured. Michael is the first one to leave this Island, is ironic. Even the Ending make you want to see more. Some characters fate are unknown.

    Why the Flight 815 Crashed in this Island is explained very well. No plot Holes here.

    Progress - The flashbacks advances and show what happened with desdmond in the Hatch during the 3 years. We have some stunning revelations. The ending keep you more curious, some of the Main Characters are in bad situation, Michael Fate revealed and finally you know what happens when you dont press the button. More than this is impossible, simple perfect. Emotions/Stimulation/Highlights - Overall, almost all the scenes are great, since they all are valuable. Curiosity, more mysteries, some resolution, stunning revelations and much more make this episode simple perfect, since it delivers every possible emotion that it can.

    The Best Highlights are: 1 Desdmond Last scene flashback (touching) 2 Desdmond last scene (Sad) 3 When Locke talks to Eko (brilliant), 4 The interaction between the Others and our Losties (tension and mystery), 5 The Stunning Revelation about the crash (Shocking), 6 The Leader of the Other (great surprise), 7 The Ending (another Brilliant idea)

    Ending - One of the Best Cliffhangers made in Lost. Surpass Last Season 1 from Miles. Overall - This is the perfect pay off from this Season 2, which concentrates on revealing some things that we want to know since Season 1. There almost no single scene in this episode that is not interesting. This episode is simple mind blowing.moreless

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  • Irretrievable

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    By napen, Oct 04, 2008 Report Abuse
    Corn, Captulo LI En el nombre de Al, el Compasivo, el Misericordioso!

    1. Por los que aventan!

    2. Por las que llevan una carga!

    3. Por las que se deslizan ligeras!

    4. Por los que distribuyen una orden!

    5. Ciertamente, aquello con que se os amenaza es verdad!

    6. Y el Juicio, s, tendr lugar.

    7. Por el cielo surcado de rbitas!

    8. Estis en desacuerdo.

    9. Algunos son desviados de l.

    10. Malditos sean los que siempre estn conjeturando,

    11. que estn en un abismo, despreocupados,

    12. que preguntan: Cundo llegar el da del Juicio?!

    13. El da que se les pruebe al fuego:

    14. Gustad vuestra prueba! Esto es lo que estabais impacientes por conocer.

    15. Los que temen a Al estarn entre jardines y fuentes,

    16. tomando lo que su Seor les d. Hicieron el bien en el pasado;

    17. de noche dorman poco;

    18. al rayar el alba, pedan perdn,

    19. y parte de sus bienes corresponda de derecho al mendigo y al indigente.

    20. En la tierra hay signos para los convencidos,

    21. y en vosotros mismos tambin. Es que no veis?

    22. Y en el cielo tenis vuestro sustento y lo que se os ha prometido.

    23. Por el Seor del cielo y de la tierra, que es tanta verdad como que hablis!

    24. Te has enterado de la historia de los huspedes honrados de Abraham?

    25. Cuando entraron en su casa. Dijeron: Paz!. Dijo: Paz! Sois gente desconocida.

    26. Se fue discretamente a los suyos y trajo un ternero cebado,

    27. que les ofreci. Dijo: Es que no comis?

    28. Y sinti temor de ellos. Dijeron: No temas! Y le dieron la buena nueva de un muchacho lleno de ciencia.

    29. Su mujer, entonces, se puso a gritar. Golpese el rostro y dijo: Pero si soy una vieja estril!

    30. Dijeron: As ha dicho tu Seor. Es l el Sabio, el Omnisciente.

    31. Dijo: Qu es lo que os trae, enviados!?

    32. Dijeron: Se nos ha enviado a un pueblo pecador

    33. para enviar contra ellos piedras de barro cocido,

    34. marcadas junto a tu Seor para los inmoderados.

    35. Y sacamos a los creyentes que en ella haba,

    36. pero slo encontramos en ella una casa de gente sometida a Al.

    37. Y dejamos en ella un signo para los que temen el castigo doloroso.

    38. Y en Moiss. Cuando le enviamos a Faran con una autoridad manifiesta.

    39. Pero, seguro de su poder, se volvi y dijo: Es un mago o un poseso!

    40. Entonces les sorprendimos, a l y a sus tropas, y los arrojamos al mar. Haba incurrido en censura.

    41. Y en los aditas. Cuando enviamos contra ellos el viento desvastador,

    42. que pulverizaba todo cuanto encontraba a su paso.

    43. Y en los tamudeos. Cuando se les dijo: Gozad an por algn tiempo!

    44. Pero infringieron la orden de su Seor y les sorprendi el Rayo, vindolo venir.

    45. No pudieron tenerse en pie, ni defenderse.

    46. Y al pueblo de No. Fue un pueblo perverso.

    47. Y el cielo, lo construimos con fuerza. Y, ciertamente, asignamos un vasto espacio.

    48. Y la tierra, la extendimos. Qu bien que la preparamos!

    49. Todo lo creamos por parejas. Quizs, as, os dejis amonestar.

    50. Refugiaos, pues, en Al! Soy para vosotros, de Su parte, un monitor que habla claro.

    51. No pongis a otro dios junto con Al! Soy para vosotros, de Su parte, un monitor que habla claro.

    52. Asimismo, no vino a los que fueron antes ningn enviado que no dijeran: Es un mago o un poseso!

    53. Es que se han legado eso unos a otros? No! Son gente rebelde!

    54. Aprtate de ellos y, as, no incurrirs en censura!

    55. Y amonesta, que la amonestacin aprovecha a los creyentes!

    56. No he creado a los genios y a los hombres sino para que Me sirvan.

    57. No quiero de ellos ningn sustento, no quiero que Me alimenten.

    58. Al es el Proveedor de todo, el Fuerte, el Firme.

    59. Los impos corrern la misma suerte que corrieron sus semejantes. Que no Me den, pues, prisa!

    60. Ay de los que no creen, por el da con que se les amenaza!moreless

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  • Season 2 may have had its ups and downs but it all led up to this mindblowing episode, one of the best of the entire series.

    10
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    By martync7, Aug 30, 2008 Report Abuse
    After watching Season 1's finale, "Exodus Part 2", I thought I had seen the best Lost episode ever made. But to quote John Locke, "I was wrong!"
    This was a mindblowing episode that had all the ingredients of a classic Lost tale.
    Season 2 had its problems, most of them in the first half. After the initial few episodes, which included the sublime, "Man of Science, Man of Faith" and "Orientation", the season wallowed somewhat through the next band of episodes, not offering the same amount of exciting action/adventure thrills or nail-biting dramatic character exchanges, as what we had previously seen. Something what literally lost from the series. Many of the episodes were too slow in pace, offered little in answers and often concentrated too much on the character's issues than on their situation on the island, a problem that really came to light in the Charlie episode, "Fire + Water".
    The episodes were still reasonably enjoyable but something wasn't the same. Episodes like "The Other 48 Days" and "The 23rd Psalm" were two good additions but it wasn't until after the half-way mark where Lost found its stride again.
    The finale aside the best moment of Season 2 was the back-to-back episodes of "The Long Con", "One of Them" and "Maternity Leave", which in a nutshell quickly dispelled rumours that the show had completely lost it.
    The second half of the season was much more exciting, and the momentum was back. It all built nicely to this finale, which shifted gears again.
    In many ways the finale returned to the type of visuals thrills that were seen in the "Pilot" episode. Not even last season's finale was as action-packed as this one. In fact in terms of adrenalin "Exodus Part 2" pales in comparison.
    Some poeple had complained that for all the action and special effects in this finale the writers had sacrificed character development. I agree with another reviewer that the writers had all of this season to work on character development and did so, sacrificing the adventure in the process. This is why the first half of this season feels a little slow. The way the finale played out is EXACTLY how a finale should play out, just like a premier episode should play out. In any case I found there to be enough character development in this episode, particularly with Desmond, who is a great addition to the show. In fact it is the new characters that have helped to guide the show and make it interesting and remain fresh. Henry Gale was instrumental in giving the series a new life mid-way through the season and Desmond has done the same in the finale.
    This episode will make you jump, scream, laugh, cry and gasp at every moment. The Desmond flashbacks are particularly impressive, very emotional and tragic. The moment when Desmond reads Penny's letter in the Hatch is particularly heart-wrenching and raises a tear.
    I loved the whole link with Desmond in the Hatch and Locke's screaming, which we saw in "Deus Ex Machina". It shows that the writers never forget previous moments on Lost and that anything that is raised and left open will not stay open-ended. "Deus Ex Machina", the magnificent episode from Season 1, has been referenced many times in Season 2. In fact it may the most important episode of Season 1 to prepare you for Season 2. The events of the Season 1 episode are referenced in the episodes, "The Other 48 Days", "The 23rd Psalm", "?" and the finale.
    Who would have known that the Drug Smuggler plane, seen in Season 1 would play such a pivotal role in both the character and mythology plotlines?
    I think this is what so impressive about the show as a whole, in that it never lays to rest any event on the island. There are very few things brought up on the show just to be used as a convenient plot device.
    It was great to see Henry Gale back. He was just so creepy in this episode. The highlight really was the implosion of the Swan Station. Watching all the appliances hurtling to the magnetic wall and things exploding was truly terrifying and was easily the most intense moments of the show since the Pilot.
    The episode was well constructed and, despite what the nay-sayers may think, it provided plenty of important answers in a logical way, closing one chapter of the mythology, whilst opening up another one. In terms of what we learn on the show, I think it is important to believe that any exposition we get on the mysteries of the island should be taken as the truth, until it is exposed as a lie further down the line. What Inman told Desmond in the flashback about Electromagnetism and "The Incident" should be taken as gospel. So the truth, as it stands at the moment, at least is that a build-up of electromagnetism caused Oceanic Flight 815 to crash. The revelation and how it is told is brilliant.
    The performances from all the cast are great. Desmond and Locke are at the top of their game. You can feel the torture of both men, as they struggle to believe what they want to.
    And then there was that end scene! So the world does exist, as Desmond did doubt. We, the audience, did doubt this too and many theories were quickly debunked after watching this scene. So, if Penny and her men have now found the island, does this mean that the survivors are closer to leaving? It also begs the question as to whether the implosion of the hatch had destroyed the electromagnetic properties of the island, thus removing the invisible cloak that the island may have been protected from. Now it seems anyone could get to the island? Henry Gale seems to think differently for some reason as he tells Michael that once he leaves he will never find his way back. Does Henry Gale know what happened with the Hatch? Henry has raised a similar point before when he tells the survivors that God can't see this island any more than anyone else. Was this because of the cloak? If the hatch is now destroyed has the cloak also? Or is something else on the island now controlling the electromagnetism? Did the implosion cause the energy to leak out everywhere on the island?
    With all the answers there are still many questions but I am very patient with the writers. I know they will deliver.
    This is an episode that certainly delievered the goods and reaffirmed my faith in the show. Now I can't wait to see Season 3......moreless

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    • The two guys who are searching for eletromagnetic anomalies in the end of the episode are speaking in Portuguese with a Brazilian accent. Edit
    • The date and time that Desmond got the System Failure was 922044:16. September 22nd, 2004 at 4:16. This was the time of the crash of Oceanic Flight 815. Edit
    • When the portuguese men see their computer, they read that there's an anomaly related with electromagnetism, and then it says 7418880. 7418880 is the total of multiplying "The Numbers". Edit

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    • In 2008, the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences chose the most memorable moments in TV dramas. The hatch implosion was in the list, but didn't make it to the top 5. Edit
    • This two-part episode was nominated for four Emmy Awards for Outstanding Directing for a Drama Series, Outstanding Single-Camera Picture Editing for a Drama Series, Outstanding Special Visual Effects for a Series and Outstanding Single-Camera Sound Mixing for a Series. Edit
    • Although credited, Michelle Rodriguez ("Ana-Lucia") didn't appear in this episode. This is the first season finale without all the regular actors. Edit

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    • Desmond: What's behind that wall, Kelvin? Huh? What was the incident? Kelvin: Electromagnetism, geologically unique. The incident—there was a leak. So now the charge builds up and every time we push the button it discharges it before it gets too big. Desmond: Why make us do it—push the button? If we, if we can just... Kelvin: (laughing and closing the lid) Here's the real question, Desmundo you have the courage to take your finger out of the dam and blow the whole thing up, instead? Edit
    • Desmond: I think your friends just blew themselves up, brother. Locke: They're not my friends. Edit
    • Desmond: Why did you lie to me? Kelvin: I lied to you because I needed a sucker to save the world after I left! Edit

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    • The pier that Jack, Kate, Sawyer and Hurley are taken to is named 'Pala Ferry.' In Aldous Huxley's novel 'Island,' Pala is a a utopian island which the cynical western journalist Will Farnaby is shipwrecked upon, who encounters a 'perfect society' based on a marriage of buddist philosophy and modern science. Whilst this may be an allusion to the Dharma initiative, the plots of the novel and the show bear no resemblance. The word also can mean 'protector.' Edit

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