Season 2 Episode 1

Man of Science, Man of Faith

Aired Sunday 9:00 PM Sep 21, 2005 on ABC
out of 10
User Rating
2,317 votes

By TV.com Users

Episode Summary

Jack, Locke and Kate explore the mysterious hatch but Jack decides to wait before going down into the hatch. Kate and Locke aren't so patient. When Shannon chases after Vincent the dog, she encounters a familiar face in the jungle.

Who was the Episode MVP ?

No results found.
No results found.
No results found.
  • A tune that will forever bring emotion...

    I was enormously moved by season 1 of Lost. It was one of the most special experiences I ever had with a television series. It was just SO special. So unique in a way, that it changed the form of TV and created its own genre.

    The thing I love most about this episode is the use of the song "Make Your Own Kind Of Music" by Mama Cass Elliot. They play it around the beginning when Desmond is waking up in the hatch, starting his day. I'll forever associate that song with this show and this episode. When I hear it now... especially when another show uses it... I know why they're playing it, because Lost made it special. Otherwise, you wouldn't be hearing it at all these days. Long Live LOST!!moreless
  • Awesome.

    Jack, Kate and Locke investigate the hatch and find Desmond, a man living inside. Shannon sees Walt in the jungle. In flashbacks, Jack operates on his eventual wife and meets Desmond. Wow - an aweseom way to start season two of Lost. John and Jack head to head once again, I love the friction their both so powerful. Locke wants to go down the hatch, Kate goes with him and then soon after Jack follows. I love all the scenes inside the hatch their awesome. I love the way Jack has spoke and seen the guy in the hatch before. Oh I love Jack's back story. Shannon "sees" Walt.moreless
  • Welcome back Lost, we now have a lot more questions for sure. The opening episode of this season is magnificent, the exploring of the shaft, the guys on the raft,the others starting to voice their own concerns,this is going to be a good season me thinks.moreless

    Season 2 starts off with a man going through his morning ritual of getting up, excercising and then eating his morning rations, until his record on the player jumps and scratches. He runs over to the power board and kills all the power, then he goes over to a piece of equipment and begins to look through a series of holes. The end view is of it going upwards towards the hatch.

    Hurley tried to warn them that the numbers were bad, but Locke lit the fuse anyways. They then go back to camp as there is about a 40 or 50 foot drop into the base of the shaft. They need more gear to access it. Walking back through the jungle Hurley explains to Jack about the numbers, he sort of understands but does comment on anything, apart from to ask Hurley "You were on a psych ward?".

    We have a flashback to Jack in ER, where Sarah had been admitted following her car accident, Jack was the only Dr in there, but as he was treating her, he was unable to treat the other one, who died. She said before Jack leaves that she has to dance at her wedding.

    Shannon has a small freak out when she realises that Vincent is missing, so she goes off to search for him, followed by Sayid, she sees Vincent, who runs further into the jungle, Shannon trips and on getting up sees a soaking wet disappointed Walt staring at her.

    Back on the beach, everyone is getting angst, the people are getting nervous but Jack manages to persuade them that everything will be okay and to settle down, the sun will be up in 3 hours. Locke is preparing a few things as he is going back tonight, as he tells jack that he is going down there tonight. Kate tells Jack that she has to go, if nothing more to make sure that Locke doesn't kill himself or get eaten.

    Jack has another flashback to Sarah, this time its after her surgery, he is venting off some anger by running up and down steps inside a stadium, he races another that joins him, but due to fatigue he hurts his ankle, a slight sprain. He sits waiting for Sarah to become awake,as she does, he tells her that the operation was not a success, that she'll be paralysed from the waist down for the rest of her life, she accuses him of fibbing, as she can wiggle her toes.

    Locke is helping Kate down into the shaft, she gets half way, then the ancorage device snaps, leaving her to plummet a little, but she drops the torch. She goes down a bit further before she tells Locke to pull her up, he tries but the vines are pulled through his hands fast, causing them to bleed, a bright light then is shone up the shaft and into the night sky.

    When Jack arrives, he finds no one near the entrance to the shaft, so he uses his own stuff that he brought with him to descend into the shaft. He creeps around until he hears noises and then bright lights, he steps into a control room of some description, full of 70's / 80's style computer equipment, he goes over and is about to type on the old keyboard, when Locke appears and tells him not too.

    We then see that Locke has a gun pointed at his head, the person behind the gun wants Jack to drop his, he doesn't but recognises the person as Desmond, the other guy from the running up and down the stairs in the stadium.moreless
  • For a JAck Centric Episode, was very Good!!!!

    When I Knew that this season premiere of Lost would be a centric-Jack episode, I "lost" my will of seeing this episode.

    However, when I began to watch, I was amazed. JAck Flashbacks fit very well into the Island event - the Hatch.

    The first 4 minutes was simple great. Sawyer, Michael and Jin don´t appear in this episode, however this not effect this episode in nothing. The dialogues between the characters was very well done.

    Shannon has her share of participation when she saw Walt, another mystery, but since the insland can make you see things, this is irrelevant for now.

    Entering tha Hatch, well, this part this part bought some time. I Felt this cliffhanger was forced, but since this is a season premiere, we need some good cliffhanger, even if this was forced.

    Overall, strange scenes, good flashback scenes, some suspense, new mysteries, good dialogues and a great cliffhanger make this episode deserves a 9.moreless
  • Open at one end; shocks at the other

    Like much of Season 1, 'Man of Science, Man of Faith' with an eye, but the sequence seems so out of context with what we've seen on Lost. It appears to be a flashback or a retro existence, complete with the music of Mama Cass. It is not until we hear an explosion that this seems to snap, and not until a few seconds later that we realize that what we saw happened at the bottom of the hatch a few minutes before 'Exodus' ended, though we still have no idea who or what this is.

    Now that the hatch that he has spent the better part of last season trying to get into is finally open, Locke has apparently forgotten all the threats to the survivors, if indeed they were in his frame of reference at the first place. He needs to see what's at the bottom, and the damn the danger of whatever orders are being given. So, the first possible opportunity, he takes a torch and heads out into the woods. Then after something (conceivably) horrible happens to Kate, he follows her down. Locke seems to believe that it is part of his destiny to see what is at the bottom of the hatch, but once he finally does get down there, his characters will under one of the biggest shifts of everybody on he island, starting with the moment he gets there.

    Jack, on the other hand, seems more than willing to call the whole thing off. He does have to care about the safety of his people, and right now he doesn't think whatever's in the hatch will do it. Especially, when he sees the word 'Quarantine' written on the other side. He tries to offer reassurances to the people at the caves, but as Hurley mentions, his bedside manner sucks. (He also seems very self-centered; Hurley finally has the guts to tell someone about his past and what the numbers meant, and Jack apparently stops listening the moment he hears the words "psych ward". And He wonders why there's so little faith in him.)

    The flashbacks involving Jack are not nearly as strong as some of the others, like Locke or Sayid's. This is mainly because Jack wears his heart on his sleeves, and the revelations are not so amazing as the usual ones. Nevertheless, this one is critical to the show for several reasons. We see Jack dealing with the car accident that paralyzed the woman he married. In doing so, we learn several things about Jack. First, he is a pragmatist, who only believes in empirical evidence. This is so deeply ingrained in that even when he manages to perform a miracle and restore Sarah's legs, he doesn't believe what he done. Second, despite this, he feels a compulsion to help fix things. Sarah was engaged before the car accident, but her fiancée, given what we saw, jumped ship because it would be too difficult. Jack wanted to make sure not only that Sarah danced at her wedding, but that there would be someone to dance with as well.

    None of this is exactly earth-shattering. What turns out to be is a scene that we probably thought was a throwaway --- Jack, trying to run off his feelings of failure after the surgery runs into a man named Desmond, who is training for a race around the world. He tries to gives some encouragement and hope to Jack (echoing Locke, which probably wouldn't go over well any better then) But it's not until the end of the episode after Jack, Locke and Kate have reached the bottom, and find that Locke is being held at gunpoint --- by Desmond. It's a good thing the episode ends right then, because I definitely needed to process the shock.

    Then again, we also need to process some of the other stuff we've seen. Inside the hatch (yeah I know, it's really a bunker; the writers called it a hatch, it's a fricking hatch). There's a lot of old music, a record player, exercise bike, food, medicine of some kind, a shower, a bun bed, and a boatload of guns. Oh, and there's this computer, and something that's making a beeping sound. Naturally, we don't learn the import of any of this, or for that matter the mural that looks familiar, along with what appears to be a Dharma hexagon symbol that we've seen before (and will see again, a lot)

    Kate's attitude is somewhat perplexing: she completely seems to agree with Jack about his argument of not exploring the hatch, but at the first possible opportunity, she leaves and goes out to help Locke get down there. Why is she so desperate to get answers? She doesn't believe in destiny.

    So much of the episode is focused on the hatch and the people around that we almost forget about the other people at the caves, who all seemed to be seized with the same level of paranoia. Shannon is apparently hallucinating seeing Walt in the jungle, as well as hearing the whispering in the woods, Charlie's ranting about Rousseau's sanity, Hurley's starting to get upset that no one ever takes him seriously (a legitimate concern given the reactions of the other castaways) we barely see Claire, Sayed or Sun, and oh yeah, we still have no clue as to what happened to Michael, Jin and Sawyer! (Then again, this part at least would be consistent with the writers setting up cliffhangers with one set of characters, and leaving another group hanging for the length of the episode. So never mind. ) However, there are a couple of other minor revelations during the episode. The mural, I'm still not sure what it means, but we have seen it before in "Special", and we will later see again in relation to Desmond is season3. The more interesting revelation is another throwaway. The other person involved in the SUV accident is a man named Adam Rutherford, who we shall soon find out is Shannon's father. Furthermore, the kind of injury that Sarah suffers is almost the exact kind that Locke had prior to crashing on the island. Is it possible that this is the kind of surgery that he would try to perform, but would fail at (Seems unlikely, as Locke probably would have remembered Jack then.)

    'Man of Science, Man of Faith' is a fascinating episode, yet I have no doubt it ended with a lot of people frustrated. The season premiere is supposed to answer all the questions left open in the cliffhanger, not leave a lot of them unanswered as well as add a load of new ones. But that's what makes Lost unique. It not only pushed the envelope; it created new ones.moreless
Anson Mount

Anson Mount


Guest Star

Ivana Michele Smith

Ivana Michele Smith

N.D. Survivor

Guest Star

Katie Doyle

Katie Doyle


Guest Star

Julie Bowen

Julie Bowen


Recurring Role

Henry Ian Cusick

Henry Ian Cusick

Desmond Hume

Recurring Role

John Terry

John Terry

Christian Shephard

Recurring Role

Trivia, Notes, Quotes and Allusions


  • TRIVIA (26)

    • Charlie seems to be more convinced than the other survivors, that there are no "Others". However, in "All The Best Cowboys Have Daddy Issues", he said to Jack "All they wanted was Claire" ("They" being "The Others").

    • At the beginning of this episode, Desmond types in spaces between the numbers, using the space bar. However, in every other episode, there is no space bar used (the computer automatically puts them in).

    • The shower head in the Hatch has 42 holes. 42 is one of "The Numbers".

    • When Kate is descending to the Hatch, she starts counting to five, to overcome her fear, but stops at 4. 4 is one of "The Numbers".

    • Man of Science, Jack. Man of Faith, Locke is actually a false assumption. The writers of LOST originally intended Man of Science and Man of Faith both to take on the character of Jack. Man of Science, being Jack the first few scenes of the episode. Man of Faith, being Jack during the final flashback scene.

    • Spoiler alert!:
      When Jack tells Sarah that she's paralized from the waist down, the clock on the wall shows it's 10 past 6, which makes 16, one of "The numbers".

    • In the official podcast, writers Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof revealed that the picture in the Swan hatch was painted by director Jack Bender.

    • Numbers: 16

      In the opening sequence, Desmond is on the exercise bike, he's riding at 16 km/h.

    • Island events in this episode take place on November 4th 2004.

    • Numbers: 4

      Jack mentions that there are still 4 guns left.

    • This episode opens in the same manner that the pilot episode did. In the pilot, the first shot is a close up of Jack's eye opening suddenly. In this episode, we see a close up of Desmond's eye as it opens up suddenly.

    • Goof: Desmond is seen taking a Beretta and a Kalashnikov from the armory. When he aims at Locke in the end of the episode, he holds a completely different pistol and the Kalashnikov is gone.

    • Numbers: 8

      Sarah's fiancé tells Jack that the wedding is in 8 months.

    • The song in the beginning of the episode, "Make Your Own Kind Of Music," is played for exactly 1 minute and 8 seconds (1:08). The second time we hear it, it plays for 48 seconds. 4 and 8 are two of "The numbers", while 108 is the sum of all of them.

    • When Locke was lowering Kate into the hatch, she starts counting, "1...2...3..." This is a reference to the "Pilot" episodes where Jack taught this trick to Kate to keep from letting fear take over when terrified. He used it to cope with a surgery error; she later used it to cope when she was running from the monster after it killed the pilot of their airplane.

    • Numbers: 42 and 108

      On the mural in The Swan, the numbers 42 and 108 are visible.

    • When Walt appears to Shannon in the jungle, he motions for her to be quiet and then whispers something backwards. When the audio is reversed, you can hear that Walt says "Don't press the button, the button is bad."

    • Numbers: 4, 8, and 15

      When laying in the hospital ward, Sarah has 8 stitches on her cheek, 4 on her fourhead, and three on her nose. This makes a total of 15.

    • Numbers: 15 and 42

      We are told that Adam Rutherford is 57 years old. 57 is 42 plus 15.

    • Numbers: 108

      The countdown clock has to be reset every 108 minutes. This is the sum of all the numbers.

    • Jack's ID badge at the hospital identifies that he (and his father) work at St. Sebastian Hospital.

    • When the stranger in the arena tells Jack that he was almost a doctor, Jack says "Small world." Sawyer said the exact same words to Jack when telling him about his chance meeting with Jack's father.

    • Numbers: 8 and 15

      Adam Rutherford's time of death is 8:15 AM. Also, during Jack and Sarahs' discussion in the end of the episode, the number "8" is written on a machine, in the room. It´s right above Jack's left knee when he is sitting down.

    • The driver of the car Sarah hit is identified as "Adam Rutherford, age 57." This is later confirmed, in the episode "Abandoned," to be Shannon Rutherford's father.

    • Numbers: 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, and 42

      When Desmond sits in front of his computer at the beginning of the episode, he types 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42 before hitting "Execute."

    • Numbers: 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, and 42

      Desmond's injection drug vials have no actual drug name on the labels; instead, they are only identified by the code: CR 4-81516-23 42.

  • QUOTES (24)

    • (Jack sitting at Sarah's bedside when she wakes up after the surgery)
      Sarah: Wow, you really smell.
      Jack: Yeah, I went for a run.
      Sarah: You smell like you ran far.
      Jack: Well, I showered and I guess I just didn't cool. I wanted to get back down here and check on you. It was a Tour de Stade.
      Sarah: What?
      Jack: When you run all the steps in every section of a stadium up and down.
      Sarah: Why would you do that?
      Jack: Ahm, I'm intense.

    • (After Jack has given Sarah her grim diagnosis)
      Shephard: You might want to try handing out some hope every once in a while. Even if there's a 99 percent probability that they're utterly, hopelessly screwed, folks are much more inclined to hear that 1 percent chance that things are going to be okay.
      Jack: Her spine's crushed. I tell her that everything's going to be okay. That's false hope, dad.
      Shephard: Maybe. Maybe, but it's still hope.

    • Desmond: I don't fancy your chances of catching up with me tonight, though.
      Jack: I wasn't trying to catch up.
      Desmond: Aye, of course you weren't.

    • Jack: What do you know about sprains, anyway?
      Desmond: I was almost a doctor once.
      Jack: Small world.

    • Desmond: You must have done something worthy of this self-flagellation.
      Jack: I told her ... I made her a promise I couldn't keep. I told her I'd fix her and I couldn't. I failed.
      Desmond: Right. Just one thing -- what if you did fix her?
      Jack: I didn't.
      Desmond: But what if you did?
      Jack: You don't know what you're talking about, man.
      Desmond: I don't? Why not?
      Jack: Because with her situation that would be a miracle, brother.
      Desmond: Oh, and you don't believe in miracles? Right. Well then, I'm going to give you some advice anyway. You have to lift it up.
      Jack: Lift it up?
      Desmond: Your ankle. You have to keep it elevated.

    • Kate: So, do you believe it?
      Jack: Believe what?
      Kate: That everything's going to be okay?
      Jack: Yeah, I do.
      Kate: Kind of unlike you -- the whole glass half-full thing.
      Jack: There's a glass?
      (They both laugh)
      Kate: You did a good thing saying what you said. Taking care of everybody and just giving them someone to count on. If you weren't here, Jack... (long pause during which they look at each other) I'm going to the hatch. (Jack looks up at her surprised and grows ever more upset as she continues talking) I understand why you can't go. They need you here. I, I get it. I do. But Locke's going into that thing whether you like it or not. And if he falls and breaks his neck... Live together, die alone, right?
      Jack: (troubled) Right.

    • Charlie: The French woman is missing a bloody wing nut, you know. I mean, it was all bollocks. It's a ghost story. She set the fire herself.

    • Jack: Is this what you were talking about, Locke? Is this your destiny? All roads lead here?
      Locke: Jack, calm down.
      Desmond: Lower your gun or I'll blow his damned head off, brother.
      Jack: (recognizing that it's Desmond) You.

    • Hurley: You're kidding, right? You're going back?
      Jack: (loading a gun) Yeah.
      Hurley: What about all that stuff you said about waiting 'til morning and watching the sun rise?
      Jack: I changed my mind.

    • Hurley: You should go ahead, man - don't want Locke making time with your girl. (Jack shoots him a look) Joke, dude.
      Jack: I'm not really in the mood, Hurley.
      Hurley: Really? Wow, usually you're, like, Mr. Haha. (Jack chuckles) There you go. Life's not so bad, right? I mean, sure the Others are coming to, like, eat us all - and every once in a while someone blows up all over you, but you do get to sleep in every morning.

    • Kate: Why do you want to get down there so bad?
      Locke: -ly. Why do I want to get down there so badly. Jack thinks I'm crazy, doesn't he?
      Kate: Why, because you want to drop into a hatch that's been locked from the inside by a foot-thick steel door that says "quarantine?"
      Locke: Well, look at the bright side. The damage is done.
      Kate: The bright side?
      Locke: And if Jack thinks I've lost it, I can't blame him, really. Then again, five hours ago I was pulled into a hole by what appeared to be a column of black smoke. Did you see it, Kate? (The look on her face indicates that she did) Then I guess we're both crazy. Wonder what Jack thinks he saw?

    • Sayid: I said we didn't see anyone. The dog will come back on his own. He always does.
      Shannon: Watching that dog was the one thing anyone has ever asked me to do. If something happens to him...
      Sayid: When was the last time you slept or had something to eat? You're exhausted.
      Shannon: I can't tell that kid that I lost his dog becase I was exhausted.

    • Jack: Sarah, the damage to your back was extensive. I did everything I could but your spinal column was... I couldn't repair it. You're going to be paralyzed from the waist down for the rest of your life. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry, Sarah.

    • Kate: I expected to find you half way down there by now.
      Locke: I was waiting for you.
      Kate: So you want me to go down first?
      Locke: Well, you're lighter. I can belay you down and bring you back up just as easy. The shaft might get narrower down there, too.
      Kate: You left out the part where you wanted to see if I get eaten by something!
      Locke: That too...

    • Hurley: Dude, why did you do that?
      Locke: Do what?
      Hurley: Why did you blow [the hatch] up?
      Locke: Why wouldn't I?
      Hurley: Maybe because I was running at you, waving my arms yelling, "Don't do that!"

    • (Shannon sees Walt in the woods)
      Shannon: Walt?
      Walt: Shhh...
      Shannon (scared): What are you doing here?
      Walt (speaks backwards): Dab snottub on, nottub eht sserp.

    • Desmond (in arena, leaving Jack): See you in another life.

    • Hurley: 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42. 4, 8, We're dead, 15, doomed, and dead, 16, 23...
      Kate: Hurley are you okay?
      Hurley: Huh? Yeah....awesome... I just...have to pee... Great idea dude, go look into the burning death hole.

    • (Jack has just finished telling the group his plan to stay together and wait out the night when Locke begins gather cable)
      Jack: John, what're you doing?
      Locke: I'm gettin' some cable.
      Jack: What for?
      Locke: It's for the hatch, I'm going in.
      Jack: You really think that's the smartest thing to do right now, John?
      Locke: I doubt it. In fact, you're right. Safest thing is to stay here. Wait for morning. Wait for these 'others' to see if they ever show up. Wait for the brave folks on the raft to bring help. But me? I'm tired of waitin'.

    • (Returning from the newly opened hatch, Jack speaks to the entire group of survivors to try and calm their fears)
      Jack: Everything's going to be ok. Let's just...let's take it easy, we're gonna be alright. We're gonna stay here tonight, ok? Together. We've still got four guns, we'll put lookouts at all the entrances. We're all gonna be safe as long as we stay together. The sun comes up in three hours and we're all gonna be here to see that happen. I promise.

    • (Down the hatch Jack is in a face-off with a stranger who is holding a gun to Locke's head)
      Jack: Is this what you were talking about Locke? Is this your destiny? All roads lead here.

    • Hurley: You know that thing that doctors have...the one where they're supposed to make you feel better just by talking to you?
      Jack: Bedside manner.
      Hurley: Yeah, that...well, yours like, sucks.

    • Hurley: I was in a psych ward for a while, and this guy...Leonard...he kept repeating these numbers over and over - 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42. I guess they must have got stuck in my head. So, when I got out - well, shortly after, like a couple of months after - I was buying a frozen burrito when I decided I should play the lottery, and since the only numbers I could think of were those numbers, I played them. And I won...$114 million. But then, after, bad things started happening all around me - my grandpa died, my house burned down, the chicken place I worked at was hit by a meteor....well, actually that would have been a meteorite... So tonight, I saw those same numbers stamped into the side of that hatch thing, and I knew we couldn't open it.
      Jack: Wait...you were in a psych ward?

    • Kate: What do I say if I want to stop?
      Locke: (surprised) Stop?

  • NOTES (16)

    • A deleted scene shows Sun asking Shannon about her mysterious encounter in the jungle, and Shannon claims she was tired and didn't see anything.

    • Ian Somerhalder (Boone Carlyle) is no longer credited with the starring cast.

    • This episode marks the first appearance of Desmond Hume, played by Henry Ian Cusick.

    • With 23.47 million viewers, this episode is the highest rated Lost Episode on ABC so far.

    • The special premiere of this season took place at Waikiki beach on the island of Oahu one week before ABC aired the episode. The first episode was projected on a screen and the cast walked a red carpet to greet fans before the episode played. The producers asked the viewers not to disclose the events of the episode before it aired.

    • The set dressing of the Swan is different between the opening scene of this episode and every other appearance.

    • Michelle Rodriguez, who plays the role of Ana Lucia, became a regular actress on Lost. She was added to the main credits in this episode.

    • International Airdates:
      - Denmark: January 11, 2006 on Kanal 5

    • This episode was nominated for the 2006 Emmy Award for Outstanding Cinematography for a Single-Camera Series.

    • This episode premiered on Maggie Grace's (Shannon Rutherford) birthday.

    • Josh Holloway (Sawyer), Daniel Dae Kim (Jin), Harold Perrineau (Michael) and Michelle Rodriguez (Ana Lucia) do not appear in this episode. This is the first episode where Sawyer and Michael don't appear.

    • The Polish premiere aired on September 7, 2006 on TVP1.

    • Episode title: "Man of Science, Man of Faith" is in reference to a line from the first season finale - "Exodus, Part 2" - when Locke tells Jack that while Jack is a man of science, Locke is a man of faith.

    • Malcolm David Kelley (Walt) was taken off contract for Season Two, due to his growth spurts. This is the first of only a handful of episodes he appeared in during Season Two. He was not credited for episodes in which he did not appear, but was listed when he did appear.

    • A Jack-centric episode.

    • Filming for this episode began on Thursday, July 28, 2005.


    • The song that Desmond plays on the record player is "Make Your Own Kind of Music," from Mama Cass Elliot's solo album in 1970. Elliot was a member of The Mamas and the Papas. The song was written by Barry Mann and Cynthia Weil.

    • The Internationale: "We'll live together or we'll die alone" is a line from the English-language (Billy Bragg) version of this famous socialist, anarchist, communist, and social democratic anthem.

    • Lord of the Flies: In this book by the Nobel Prize-winning author William Golding, the character Ralph is portrayed as logical and rational, while Jack Merridew is portrayed as superstitious and imaginative. The way these characters behave is very similar to how Jack and Locke behave. Thus, Ralph and Jack are both men of science, while Locke and Jack Merridew are men of faith.

    • Hurley tells Jack that his "bedside manner" sucks. Jorge Garcia (the actor that plays Hurley) was also in the show Becker, in which the tagline was "His bedside manner is no manners at all".