Season 2 Episode 3


Aired Sunday 9:00 PM Oct 05, 2005 on ABC



  • Trivia

    • Numbers: The sum of 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, and 42 is 108: the number of minutes on the timer in the hatch.

    • A plate on the shelf behind Karen DeGroot is similar to the Oceanic logo.

    • The second time the clock is shown in this episode, it is at 84 minutes. 8 and 4 are two of "the Numbers."

    • While Jack and Locke are setting up the projector, Jack asks Locke if he really believes the world will end in the next 45 minutes. But in the next scene, after they watch the film, Jack questions Desmond and we see the timer is at 50 minutes. Although, it could have just been a figure of speech.

    • When Locke is typing the code, he incorrectly types 32, which is 23 backwards. 23 is one of "The Numbers".

    • The logo of the Dharma Initiative is an octagonal (an eight-sided polygon). A very similar figure can be seen in episode 14 of season 1, Special, when Michael takes the box of letters he wrote to Walt, in Brian's house. The figure is on the ceiling.

    • The orientation film was shot on a set from Alias (with help of the Alias crew).

    • Numbers: 42

      When Sayid comes into the hatch, the ticker is at 24 (a reverse 42).

    • Island events in this episode take place on November 5th, 2004.

    • According to the website, www.thehansofoundation.org, the following are the various projects the Hanso Foundation were working on.

      The Hanso Life-Extension Project
      The Hanso Foundation Electromagnetic Research Initiative
      The Hanso Quest for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence
      The Hanso Mathematical Forecasting Initiative
      The Hanso Cryogenics Development Imperative
      The Hanso Juxtapositional Eugenics Development Institute
      The Hanso Accelerated Remote Viewing Training Facility

    • Numbers: 15

      Near the end of the episode, Jack is told by Desmond that, in 15 minutes, he will either be very right or very wrong about whether or not the button is real.

    • Numbers: 4 and 8

      When Locke looks at the countdown timer after Desmond runs out of the room, there are 48 minutes left.

    • Numbers: 108

      In the orientation video, Dr. Marvin Candle states that the inhabitants of the station will be there for 540 days. 540 divided by five is 108.

    • Numbers: 4

      In the orientation video, Dr. Marvin Candle says they have 4 minutes to press "Execute" after the alarm begins to sound.

    • Numbers: 4 and 8

      While Desmond is telling his story, the countdown timer is at 84 minutes.

    • In this episode Cindy, the stewardess of the flight 815 in "Pilot" appears again. It is her first appearance in the second season.

    • The hatch was placed on the island by the Dharma Initiative, an organization which started in 1970. The hatch is the 3rd station and is part of an electro-magnetic field experiement. Additionally, the Orientation film was dated 1980...10 years after the Dharma initiative began.

    • As Desmond leaves Jack towards the end of the episode he says "See you in another life, brother." Desmond says the exact same words to Jack as he leaves him in the episode "Man of Science, Man of Faith."

    • The instructor on the "Orientation" tape explained that the island was originally chosen to become a research compound where scientists could pursue research in "meteorology, psychology, parapsychology, zoology, electromagnetism, and utopian social -." The last part of that sentence was cut off by the tape.

    • Electromagnetic fields could explain why Danielle's ship crashed on the island as well as the flight 815 plane. It could also explain why Locke's compass in "Hearts and Minds" was pointing the wrong way.

    • Desmond grabs three things before leaving the bunker: Four tin cans of food, bottles of medicine (with the cursed numbers on them), and a stuffed bunny rabbit (sitting next to a Bible with an inverted cross and the book The Third Policeman).

    • The name DHARMA may be tied in with the numbers. D is the 4th letter in the alphabet. H is the 8th letter in the alphabet. R is the 18th letter in the alphabet minus the two A's which are the first letter in the alphabet and you get 16. M is the 13th letter in the alphabet add the two A's, again first letter in the alphabet, and you get 15.

    • If you look carefully you'll notice Dr. Candle possesses a prosthetic left arm.

    • In this episode, Locke's girlfriend, Helen, has the same name as the dial-a-date operator he spoke to in "Walkabout."

    • If you look closely at two of the scientists in the orientation video, they look very similar to two of the people who kidnapped Walt.

    • The man in the movie says at the end "NAMASTE". Namaste is Hindi and both a spoken greeting and a gesture.

    • If you go to the Hanso Foundation Website, and click on the Active Projects link, there is a hidden link to rewatch the Dharma Initiative orientation film underneath the link for "The Hanso Accelerated Remote Viewing Training Facility".

  • Quotes

    • Locke: Where are you going?
      Desmond: As far as I can run, brother.

    • Desmond: I remember you. Running. I know you. I met you.
      Jack: Stop.
      Desmond: Los Angeles. I was training, yeah? You twisted your ankle.
      Jack: Stop.
      Desmond: You're a doctor, right? There was this girl you were worried about. You said...you said you failed her. That was you.
      Jack: It doesn't matter.
      Desmond: Is she ok? The girl.
      Jack: It doesn't matter.
      Desmond: What happened?
      Jack: It doesn't matter.
      Desmond: How can you say it doesn't...
      Jack: I married her!
      Desmond: Right. Then you're not married to her anymore then.
      (Jack shakes his head no)

    • Jack: Don't move!
      Locke: Jack, he's unarmed.
      Jack: He just had a gun pointed at your head!

    • Locke: You want your damn thirty dollars back?! I want my kidney back!

    • Ana Lucia: Flight 815?
      Sawyer: You were on it, too?
      Michael: What? You were in the back? It broke off mid-air. How did you...
      Ana Lucia: I don't know. I don't know. The plane came apart, and somebody's fricking hardside came out of the overhead and knocked me out. I woke up under water and made my way to the top - swam to shore.

    • Desmond: (to Jack) See you in another life, yeah?

    • Jack: (to Locke) Don't tell me you believe this. This is crazy. You think that makes sense - pushing a button? You're going to take his word for it?
      Locke: His word is all we have, Jack.
      Desmond: You don't have to take my word for it. Watch the film.

    • (referring to the gun)
      Ana Lucia: How come you didn't use it when they grabbed you?
      Saywer: Guess I was too busy getting hit in the face with a club.

    • Kate: What does it look like?
      Sayid: It's a breaker box. There has to be one. Follow the conduit lines.
      Hurley: Cool, OK. Great. What's a conduit line?

    • Locke: We can fix the computer. Sayid is coming. He knows...
      Desmond: Give him my best.

    • Jack: Are you in contact with the people that made it... the film? Are you in contact with anyone?
      Desmond: (trying to fix his computer) Do you think I'd be here if I was?
      Jack: How is it that you didn't know about the crash? About us?
      Desmond: I push this button every 108 minutes. I don't get out much.

    • Jack: Stop.
      Desmond: Oh, the code yeah.
      Jack: What?
      Desmond: If by some miracle you manage to get the computer working again, you got to enter the code; 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42 and press execute. Again; 4, 8, 15...
      Jack: Shut up!
      Desmond: I'm sorry?
      Jack: Nothing is going to happen. Some man takes you down there, shows you a movie and you push a button on, on faith alone. Nothing is going to happen!
      Desmond: In about fifteen minutes, you're either going to be very right or very wrong brother. You want to shoot me? Shoot me! But I'm not hanging around...
      Jack: Why are you running? You don't even know what you're running from!
      Desmond: I remember you.

    • Jack: Look, you want to get to work, you're going to tell me how you got here.
      Desmond: It was three years ago. I was on a solo race around the world, and my boat crashed into the reef, and then Kelvin came.
      Locke: Kelvin?
      Desmond: Kelvin - he comes running out of the jungle - hurry, hurry, come with me. He brings me down here. The first thing he does - because there's beeping already - he types in the code, he pushes the button, and it stops. What was all that about, I say. Just saving the world, he says.
      Jack: Saving the world?
      Desmond: His words, not mine. So I started pushing the button, too. And we saved the world together for awhile, and that was lovely. Then Kelvin died, and now here I am all alone. The end.

    • Hurley: Dude, I've got to say, I didn't think we were going to get through the night. And I wasn't even here for that baby stealing part.
      Sayid: I can assure you it was very exciting.
      Hurley: It's about time things are finally returning to normalness.
      Kate: (runs out of jungle) Sayid!
      Hurley: Oh, crap.

    • Sawyer (to Ana Lucia): Alright, here's what we're going to do - Jin plays dead, you call for help.
      Ana Lucia: Sick prisoner - are you serious?
      Sawyer: What? You got a better idea, sweetheart?

    • (Locke's trying to light a cigarette)
      Helen: Probably a good idea ... you know, if you get kidney cancer, you've only got one.

    • Francine: She stole 30 dollars. I know it may not seem a lot of money to some of you, but it's a lot to me, and I want it back.
      (Locke laughing)
      Guide: Something you want to say? ... John, you've been coming here for a month now ...
      Locke: I just don't think 30 dollars is worth being angry about.
      Guide: Well, Francine feels like 30 dollars ...
      Locke: Francine feels a little too much, if you ask me. You all do. I mean, seriously ... "So-and-so never called me back, my Mother stole 30 dollars from me ..." I never knew who my parents were!

    • (After watching Orientation video)
      Locke: We're gonna need to watch that again.

    • Locke: There was a code, he made me enter it.
      Hurley: What code?
      Sayid: You remember what it is?
      Locke: 4, 8 ...
      Hurley: Wait a minute!
      Locke: 15, 16 ...
      Hurley: Dude, I'm serious, stop!
      Locke: Hugo, this is not the time or the place!
      Hurley: Yeah well, I think it is!
      Locke: 23 ...
      Hurley: What is this thing, I mean you don't even know what it does, I mean we need -
      Locke: 32.
      Hurley: (calm) You know what? Forget it. Go ahead, do your thing.

    • Ana Lucia: Where'd you get that gun, anyway?
      Sawyer: What?
      Ana Lucia: The gun - how'd you get it on the plane?
      Sawyer: There was a Federal Marshal on the plane.
      Ana Lucia: So what, you just happened to have his gun?
      Sawyer: Yeah, I'm lucky.

    • Hurley: (After finding the storage room) Wow.
      Kate: Did you find it?
      Hurley: Hmmmm... Depends on what you mean by 'it'.

    • Kate: There's gotta be a front door to this place!

    • Sawyer: We're about to be the best thing that ever happened to you.
      Ana Lucia: How's that?
      Sawyer: Next time Shaft opens the cage, he's gonna get a surprising little howdy-doody.

    • Locke: I can't do this alone Jack, I don't want to! It's a leap of faith Jack!

    • Locke: Why do you find it so hard to believe?
      Jack: Why do you find it so easy?
      Locke: It's never been easy!

    • (Jack has Desmond on the ground and he is pointing a gun at him.)
      Desmond: Do I know you?

    • Locke: Why?
      Cooper: There is no why. You think you're the first person that ever got conned? You needed a father figure and I needed a kidney, and that's what happened. Get over it. And John, don't come back. You're not wanted.

    • Jack: ...Because the last time I saw the computer that was going to save the world, it didn't look like that.

    • Desmond: But the film says this is an electromagnetic station. And I don't know about you brother, but every time I walk past that concrete wall over there, my fillings hurt.

    • Jack: Do you ever think that maybe they put you down here to push a button every 100 minutes just to see if you would? That all of this, the computer, the button, is just a mind game, an experiment?
      Desmond: Every single day.

    • Desmond: What did you do? We're all gonna die...we're all gonna die! (after the countdown timer is shot)

    • Helen: I've got a thing for bald men.
      Locke: I'm not bald.
      Helen: I can wait.

  • Notes

    • International Airdates:
      - Denmark: January 25, 2006 on Kanal 5

    • This episode was nominated for the 2006 Excellence in Production Design Award for Television - Single Camera Television Series.

    • Emilie de Ravin (Claire), Maggie Grace (Shannon), Yunjin Kim (Sun) and Dominic Monaghan (Charlie) do not appear in this episode.

    • Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje's character, Mr. Eko, was originally named Emeka but Adewale asked the writers to change the name to Eleko because Emeka was more commonly used in another region of Nigeria than his character was from. The writers changed the name to Eleko but at the last minute shortened it to Mr. Eko to make the character seem more mysterious.

    • Polish premiere was September 14, 2006 on TVP1.

    • The book The Third Policeman by Flann O'Brien had sold about 400 copies a year, since 1999. It has sold nearly 10,000 since it's brief appearance on the show on October 5, 2005.

    • Actor Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje makes his first appearance as a series regular this episode. He also appeared with Harold Perrineau Jr. (Michael) as a fellow inmate in the HBO series OZ.

    • A Locke-centric episode.

  • Allusions

    • An allusion is made to JJ Abrams' previous television series Alias in this episode. When Locke walks into the computer room and looks up at the clock, you can see it switch from 48:00 to 47:00. The number 47 was a key and critical number in the series Alias, much like 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, and 42 are in Lost.

    • The reel with the Dharma Initiative movie is behind a book - The Turn of the Screw - by Henry James. This book tells a story about a governess who has to educate two orphan children in the 19th century. The children see two ghosts, two dead persons that are related to the children, and on and on. The governess sees the ghosts as well, and tries to protect the children.

    • A shot of the book The Third Policeman is seen. The unnamed narrator of The Third Policeman is a student of a scientist/philosopher named De Selby. De Selby is a fictitious Irish philosopher and scientist, who has quite unorthodox theories and areas of research. The scientist from the DHARMA initiative may be an allusion to the character of De Selby. Throughout the book the narrator is also introduced to various peculiar or irrational concepts, artifacts, and locations, including a vast underground chamber called 'Eternity'. The surreality of the island may be an allusion to the strange concepts introduced in the book.

    • In this episode Sawyer calls Jin, "Chewie." This is an allusion to Star Wars as well as an earlier episode when he called him "Chewie."

    • Sawyer: 'Cause next time Shaft opens the cage, he's gonna get a surprising little howdy-doody.

      Shaft is a reference to a suave black detective, the title character of the Shaft films from 1971 to 2000 as well as the short lived TV series based on the first film, which ran from late 1973 to early 1974.

    • The Hatch/B.F. Skinner
      Skinner was a behavioral scientist whose work on lab rats has become famous. Placing the rats in a "Skinner Box," each rat was trained to push a "button" to receive food pellets. Eventually, Skinner varied how many pushes each rat would have to perform to receive the food. By the end, no food was given, and the rats would simply continue ceaselessly pushing the button in the expectation that one of the pushes would result in food.

      This set up is not unlike the Hatch. A person (the rat) is placed in an enclosed space (the box) and told fatal disaster has struck. The only way to stave off destruction is to enter a code and "push" a button, all the while believing that the result has been achieved with no real proof of it.

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