Season 5 Episode 13

Some Like It Hoth

Aired Sunday 9:00 PM Apr 15, 2009 on ABC



  • Trivia

    • Black and white:
      -Hurley's notebook has those colors.
      -Miles's black hair has a white stripe running through it when he visits his ailing mother.

    • When Miles is abducted in the van after getting his fish taco, he bargains with his abductors not to go to the Isand on the freighter in exchange for 3.2 million dollars. This is the exact sum he blackmails Ben for in Season 4 episode 4: Eggtown. In this episode, he is off the freighter and on the island. He offers Ben to tell Widmore Ben of his death in exchange for the money.

    • Numbers:
      -The time on the microwave at the beginning said "3:16". That's the number of the flight in which the Losties came back to the island.
      -The room where young Miles finds the dead body when he goes to the vending machine is Room 4. He finds the key under a rabbit which has the number 8 on its ear.
      -Naomi offered Miles $1.6 millions.
      -Miles was reading the March 14th, 1977 issue of Sports Illustrated. The cover of which reads, "After 23 years… NEW BOSS IN L.A. Tom Lasorda".
      -Sawyer asks Miles to delete the video from camera 4.

    • Goof: Miles has a moustach and goatee, but he did not in "Whatever happened, happened". However, no days have passed since the two episodes

    • When Miles is reading Hurley's script for The Empire Strikes Back he is reading the scene where Han and Chewbacca encounter the Imperial probe droid. In Hurley's script, Chewbacca shoots the probe droid with his crossbow. In the actual film, Chewbacca never shoots, he only growls to get the attention of the droid and then Han Solo shoots it from behind and destroys it. This could be a mistake or one of Hurley's "updates" to George Lucas's script and could be an allusion to the "Han Shoots First" controversy concerning changes Lucas made to A New Hope. In Hurley's updated script - Han doesn't shoot first, Chewbacca does.

    • The DHARMA worker is seen picking up The Swan station's hatch door with ease, yet in "Exodus, Part 2" it takes both Jack and Locke using their full strength to move it slightly and it's described as a "foot thick steel door".

    • The book that Pierre is reading to baby Miles is entitled "Me And Polar Bears".

    • Despite claiming to watch The Empire Strikes Back 200 times, Hurley does not remember that Luke Skywalker got his hand cut off before he knew that Darth Vader was his father.

    • The lesson Jack erased from the classroom board was about Ancient Egypt and hieroglyphs. Also when Jack is seen erasing the right section of the board, he puts a lot of effort into it, but it doesn't erase very well. The next two screen shots show the middle and left side of the board erased in a matter of seconds.

    • The Lisa computer in the security station was not in production until early 1983.

    • In one shot, Elmer is seen behind Kate. In the next shot which faces the opposite direction, he is seen behind Roger.

    • Miles closes the hatchback of the van when Chang tells him to wait at the Orchid. In the next scene, it's open again.

    • The periodic table on the wall in the Schoolhouse contained elements not yet discovered in 1977.

  • Quotes

    • Miles: My dad didn't leave when I was ten. Uh, I was a baby. I never knew him. I don't want to. It's not happening.
      Hurley: That was Luke's attitude, too.
      Miles: What?
      Hurley: In Empire, Luke found out Vader was his father, but instead of putting away his lightsaber and talking about it, he overreacted and got his hand cut off. I mean, they worked it out eventually, but at what cost? Another Death Star was destroyed, Boba Fett got eaten by the Sarlacc and we got the Ewoks. It all could have been avoided if they just, you know, communicated. Let's face it: Ewoks suck, dude.

    • (talking about the dead guy)
      Miles: What happened to him?
      Radzinsky: He had an accident.
      Miles: What kind of accident?
      Radzinsky: He fell into a ditch.
      Miles: Is that a bullet hole in his head? The ditch had a gun?

    • Miles: (To Hurley, after he steals Hurley's notebook) Let's see what's going on in that piece of granite you call a head!

    • Hurley: So you two have been here for three years now, must be pretty tight, huh?
      Miles: Dr. Chang and I don't exactly travel in the same circles.
      Dr. Chang: I wasn't aware there were circles.
      Hurley: Great! We should all get together for a beer sometime. How awesome would that be?

    • Miles: (To Naomi) As much as hunting down a mass-murderer sounds really safe, uh... I'm gonna - I'm gonna pass.

    • (Referencing the dead body)
      Dr. Pierre Chang: How do you feel about polar bear feces? Because if you breathe one word of this, I'll have you shipped to Hydra Island so you can weigh turds for their ridiculous experiments.
      Hurley: Gross.

    • Hurley: (referring to Chang) That guy's a total douche.
      Miles: That douche is my dad.

    • Hurley: Dude, there's a bodybag back here. With a body in it.
      Miles: That's traditionally what you put in a bodybag.

  • Notes

    • Original International Air Dates:
      United Kingdom: April 19, 2009 on Sky One
      Australia: May 6, 2009 on Network 7
      Norway: May 13, 2009 on TVNorge
      Finland: May 28, 2009 on Nelonen
      Denmark: June 19, 2009 on Kanal 5
      Czech Republic: June 29, 2009 on AXN
      Spain: July 2, 2009 on FOX
      Belgium: October 5, 2009 on VT4

    • Featured music:
      -"It Never Rains In Southern California" by Albert Hammond.
      -"Love Will Keep Us Together" by The Captain & Tennille.

    • Although credited, Michael Emerson (Ben), Henry Ian Cusick (Desmond), Daniel Dae Kim (Jin), Terry O'Quinn (Locke), Naveen Andrews (Sayid), and Yunjin Kim (Sun) do not appear in this episode.

    • A Miles-centric episode.

  • Allusions

    • The Empire Strikes Back
      Hurley makes a direct reference to Star Wars V and writer/producer George Lucas. The episode title also refers to this film, as it depicts the Battle of Hoth, the ice planet which was home to the Rebel base.

    • The title of this episode is a reference to the Academy Award winning 1959 movie Some Like It Hot. In the movie, the two main characters are a comedic duo and witness a mob murder, which is kind of similar to the plot of Miles and Hurley.

      This is the first time the title of an episode was an allusion to a movie.

    • Miles Davis: Miles' mother is a fan of this legendary jazz trumpeter and names Miles after him.

    • Hans Brinker, or the Silver Skates is a novel by American author Mary Mapes Dodge, first published in 1865. The novel takes place in the Netherlands. Sawyer refers to this tale when he asks if Juliet ever felt like the little Dutch boy with his finger in the dike.